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He's been gone about a year, hell tbd Heist update happened while he was gone. Sounds like he pulled a Don Draper. His sabbatical began in 2014 and he tried to return in April of 2015! That's a long-ass time, and I don't anyone could leave a job for that long and expect to still have it waiting for them.

Well he was gone around the time the homing launcher released, so he had nothing to do with that abomination. That's good enough for me.

 

Team The Benz.

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R* has jumped the shark

 

Happens to everything sooner or later

 

Goodbye GTA, hellooooo BDO

I do not think that phrase means what you think that phrase means.

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So it's taken 3 years for GTA online to generate the same revenue that many games generate within a year of launch? And they're constantly adding new content to it?

What exactly is the problem here?

no, that's just micro transactions after release. Last time I checked the game itself had generated over 2 billion in sales. They sold over $500 million in less than 24 hours at release in 2013. None of them should have anything to complain about.
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The other half a billion went on my penis enlargement fund.

 

Win-win!

 

By the way, I totally haven't read anything in this thread.

 

Cheers.

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While this is all impressive and a sign that the next GTA installment will be more amazing that GTA V, R* are currently digging themselves a hole, sh*tting in it and then jumping in face first. No idea if in the 3 pages this was posted or mentioned so apologies if it was. Sort of off-topic but still pertinent to the discussion of money.

 

http://kotaku.com/gta-producer-leslie-The Benz-sues-rockstar-for-150-mill-1770521370

 

Basically, Sam Houser (technically on R*'s behalf) and The Benz are going at it with lawsuits. This follows the resignation of the Benz, which after all may have been forceful if his point of view is correct.

 

You know, I grew up loving R*. They always kept themselves out of the papers over the years while EA and Activision battled it out for worst gaming company. Always about the money but not R*. For them it was making amazing games. I used to be a big R* fanboy, buying their newest game without a second thought or looking up gameplay/info on Youtube like I do for all other games I buy. While I'm sure I'll still do that in the future due to R*'s signature way of making games, I don't know if I'm a R* fanboy anymore. The Benz leaving is a huge force removed from the creative process of what makes R* games top of the line. I wonder how much it's gonna impact the next game as well if these lawsuits go anywhere.

 

Nearly the only games that R* makes that are any good are the GTA series ... Red Dead Redemption was OK ... midnight club was ok (not nearly as good as the NFS underground offerings of the time) ... Manhunt series / bully / LA Noir were all sh*t.

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Red Dead Redemption was OK ...

OK..... OKAY.... RDR is up there with Ocarina of Time as one of the greatest games ever made.

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The reason why we have got so much sh*tty DLC content is because the Houser brothers don't give a bird. Leslie wanted DLC more in line with the Heist update. So you know who to thank

Oh look we got a Rockstar employee over here. Wanna explain how you know this exclusive information?

 

A12Gaming inside info.

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You say that like it's a bad thing

Its a bad thing for people that want a Single Player DLC. It further illustrates why the probability of there being one is very slim to none.
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Red Dead Redemption was OK ...

OK..... OKAY.... RDR is up there with Ocarina of Time as one of the greatest games ever made.

 

 

OMG - Ocarina of Time <-- hated that game! But .. I hate most Nintendo games ... so... starting with original Mario Brothers back in the 80's in the arcade.

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OMG - Ocarina of Time <-- hated that game! But .. I hate most Nintendo games ... so... starting with original Mario Brothers back in the 80's in the arcade.

wow. just wow.

 

 

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This is good news because it's a guarantee that support/development will continue and that there likely will be more than sh*tty Benny cars.

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So I guess your against a company making a profit. The scale of budget they will have for future titles will be heavily decided by the amounts that V makes. The more revenue comes in, the better future titles will be.

They made a billion in the first 3 days lol. Profit isn't an issue.

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can't wait to have a game where I'll have to spend £50 to upgrade one car from Bennys or do a weeks long no life grind of the same mission 150 times over, with a half baked story mode, because, uno, online's where its at.

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While this is all impressive and a sign that the next GTA installment will be more amazing that GTA V, R* are currently digging themselves a hole, sh*tting in it and then jumping in face first. No idea if in the 3 pages this was posted or mentioned so apologies if it was. Sort of off-topic but still pertinent to the discussion of money.

 

http://kotaku.com/gta-producer-leslie-The Benz-sues-rockstar-for-150-mill-1770521370

 

Basically, Sam Houser (technically on R*'s behalf) and The Benz are going at it with lawsuits. This follows the resignation of the Benz, which after all may have been forceful if his point of view is correct.

 

You know, I grew up loving R*. They always kept themselves out of the papers over the years while EA and Activision battled it out for worst gaming company. Always about the money but not R*. For them it was making amazing games. I used to be a big R* fanboy, buying their newest game without a second thought or looking up gameplay/info on Youtube like I do for all other games I buy. While I'm sure I'll still do that in the future due to R*'s signature way of making games, I don't know if I'm a R* fanboy anymore. The Benz leaving is a huge force removed from the creative process of what makes R* games top of the line. I wonder how much it's gonna impact the next game as well if these lawsuits go anywhere.

 

I remember seeing something about the change in management roles at Rockstar. I guess it was something like this story in Jan 2016, GTA V producer and Rockstar North boss quits job. Luckily for us, Aaron Garbut is still there. I think he's been artistic director on most or all of the GTA games and is responsible for the detailed virtual world.

 

"Rockstar North will now have two co-studio heads, in Rob Nelson, who was animation director on the current gen and PC versions of GTA V, and Aaron Garbut who is and will remain the studio’s art director..."

 

I mostly care about the quality of the virtual world open sandbox design, so I hope Aaron will continue to focus on that. It already looks like GTA Online twitch PvP is the new way for GTA, so maybe story and sarcastic humor are no longer going to be part of it and the Benz can move on without having much effect. That might be OK, since they had to try too hard in GTA V to be edgy and sarcastic anyway. I kind of saw the end of the line of the old GTA in there. Well, it was a good run, while it lasted :)

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I was nice to support Rockstar by buying my fourth 20 dollar shark card just to be nice when I didnt even need it. (cause I made 70 million legit career money) And what do I get in return? My SIXTH bad sport sentence ! So wow, its nice to show off my new Bennys van in an empty bad sport lobby.

 

They seriously need to do away with Bad Sports, They need to make it a 3 day ban each time. Not in doubling increments to where youre looking months down the road even years to get back in. Some of the most loyal players and customers right there they are locking out of the main servers.

 

If they dont want my money anymore, I understand. (sarcasm)

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GTA will probably not be as good...sucks to hear. Apparently, The Benz placed his name last in the credits of gta online. Who knew there were credits...big deal in the game development community apparently.

 

Also, The Benz created a program to check for glitches which may be the reason so many bugs have been left unfixed, because Benzie has been gone since late 2014. Around the time of currentgen release...kindve speculating here, maybe he is only one who knows who to use it. Either way, the guy was the tippy top of GTA creation, was sharing in profits.

 

Also revenue is not the same thing as profit.

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I was nice to support Rockstar by buying my fourth 20 dollar shark card just to be nice when I didnt even need it. (cause I made 70 million legit career money) And what do I get in return? My SIXTH bad sport sentence ! So wow, its nice to show off my new Bennys van in an empty bad sport lobby.

 

They seriously need to do away with Bad Sports, They need to make it a 3 day ban each time. Not in doubling increments to where youre looking months down the road even years to get back in. Some of the most loyal players and customers right there they are locking out of the main servers.

 

If they dont want my money anymore, I understand. (sarcasm)

 

what the hell are you doing to get put in bad sport? I've always gotten the $2000 good sport bonus all the time.

 

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@Blaring, getting in the first time is extremely difficult. I remember sitting down for one weekend and killing 200plus players, i lost count and then I earned my first dunce cap. You definately have to blow up 30plus pvs in a short time frame with little cool down

 

I have a hunch theres a probation when you get out cause its very easy to get back in. I wish I had the exact numbers. I was very careful to fight on foot when I got out, but after a few players attempted a drive by sticky bombing, I blew them up with their own stickies and I got blamed and I got thrown back in.

The whole BS system is unfair. Its a flawed way to do business cause I know Id be spending more money If I wasnt locked out the main lobbies.

 

Dont mean to throw this post off track but thats my background and I still want to give Rockstar my support , I'm the first on the road with the new lowrider If I have the funds in my account. If I dont, I shark card it.

If Im unable to participate with others to celebrate the DLCs, then then I'm passing on the shark card . Their loss.

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I was nice to support Rockstar by buying my fourth 20 dollar shark card just to be nice when I didnt even need it. (cause I made 70 million legit career money) And what do I get in return? My SIXTH bad sport sentence ! So wow, its nice to show off my new Bennys van in an empty bad sport lobby.

 

They seriously need to do away with Bad Sports, They need to make it a 3 day ban each time. Not in doubling increments to where youre looking months down the road even years to get back in. Some of the most loyal players and customers right there they are locking out of the main servers.

 

If they dont want my money anymore, I understand. (sarcasm)

 

You must really love the infamous dunce cap to be sent to the bad sports lobby for the sixth time.

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I would be interested in knowing what percentage of game copies sold (225 million) bought Sharkcards? To me, if you didnt get at least 60% of gamer accounts to buy at least $20 worth of Sharkcards, you failed IMO. They could have been much more realistic with their pricing and made it so that a high end car and all the upgrades only cost $5. Housing, same, $5. For cheap prices like that, youd have likely had 60% of your customers plunk down an extra $5-$20 on Online, as opposed to a small percentage of people willing to pay. Imagine getting 60% of 225 mil copies getting an additional $10 in revenue, thats 135 mil copies bringing in 1.3 BILLION. They claim they made 2.5 bil off of GTA products so far, and really, the only product moving is Shark cards. That tells me you had a decent percentage of whales plunking down, but based on everything you read from the community, hardly anyone buys cards. So imagine all the profit they COULD have had with the whales they caught, and getting a simple $10 more from nearly every player, because they felt they had great value per dollar spent. Value of dollar spent in game now is a joke. They want $100 for a yacht? No. Nearly every yacht owner I talk to glitched their money. Yachts serve no real purpose in game. Its just a status symbol. The only reason I ever paid for cards was to get the best racecars faster to compete in crews. And even then, all my attempts fell apart and I STILL havnt got fame and glory from crew race events per dollar I spent trying to get it. Mostly a result of dips*** crew leadership and lack of commitment to racing like I thought there would be.

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I would be interested in knowing what percentage of game copies sold (225 million) bought Sharkcards? To me, if you didnt get at least 60% of gamer accounts to buy at least $20 worth of Sharkcards, you failed IMO. They could have been much more realistic with their pricing and made it so that a high end car and all the upgrades only cost $5. Housing, same, $5. For cheap prices like that, youd have likely had 60% of your customers plunk down an extra $5-$20 on Online, as opposed to a small percentage of people willing to pay. Imagine getting 60% of 225 mil copies getting an additional $10 in revenue, thats 135 mil copies bringing in 1.3 BILLION. They claim they made 2.5 bil off of GTA products so far, and really, the only product moving is Shark cards. That tells me you had a decent percentage of whales plunking down, but based on everything you read from the community, hardly anyone buys cards. So imagine all the profit they COULD have had with the whales they caught, and getting a simple $10 more from nearly every player, because they felt they had great value per dollar spent. Value of dollar spent in game now is a joke. They want $100 for a yacht? No. Nearly every yacht owner I talk to glitched their money. Yachts serve no real purpose in game. Its just a status symbol. The only reason I ever paid for cards was to get the best racecars faster to compete in crews. And even then, all my attempts fell apart and I STILL havnt got fame and glory from crew race events per dollar I spent trying to get it. Mostly a result of dips*** crew leadership and lack of commitment to racing like I thought there would be.

The game itself has sold nearly 60 million copies, 225 million is the amount of copies all of Rockstar Games' games have sold in total.

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I own two yachts and the golden Luxor and did not glitch my cash. No, I do not consider getting my Kuruma during the Pac Standard finale glitching. Just get a crew that does not suc balls and money is easy.

 

If you bought shark cards, I would like to thank you for making my online time free.

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So I guess your against a company making a profit. The scale of budget they will have for future titles will be heavily decided by the amounts that V makes. The more revenue comes in, the better future titles will be.

Where do you come to the conclusion that the more money a company makes the better their future titles will be? Sure theyll be well funded but an overall better game? I dont think so.

 

Evidence: Cod:Black Ops to MW3

BO2 to Ghost

Bioshock 2 to infinite

Halo 4 to REACH

Jak to Jak 3

 

UC2 to UC3

 

Gears 3 to Gears Judgement

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So I guess your against a company making a profit. The scale of budget they will have for future titles will be heavily decided by the amounts that V makes. The more revenue comes in, the better future titles will be.

Where do you come to the conclusion that the more money a company makes the better their future titles will be? Sure theyll be well funded but an overall better game? I dont think so.

 

Evidence: Cod:Black Ops to MW3

BO2 to Ghost

Bioshock 2 to infinite

Halo 4 to REACH

Jak to Jak 3

 

UC2 to UC3

 

Gears 3 to Gears Judgement

 

By his logic, they should be using slave labour to get these games done. I mean, we can't complain about them wanting to turn a bigger profit can we?

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As proven true by yesterday's and today's ongoing fiasco with R*

 

Money can change people. Can drive people to do stupid irrational things

 

Money IS the root of all evil.

 

Im not saying R* making money is a bad thing but this may change the way GTA6 is developed. Most likely will

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So many children, know-it-alls and crybabies ITT....

 

"Hurr durr no moar gud updatez onli Benny's cos Leslie iz gon waa"

"Me no like Rockstar now (Cockstar for the immature kids) coz Leslie not dere waaa"

"GTA6 will suck waa"

"Rockstar are greedy nd onli wont muny waaaa"

 

GTAO and the content being added into it has nothing to do with Leslie leaving at all, that's just between the Housers and him over what's there in the documents. If you feel that Grand Theft Auto, and R* as a whole are going to suffer in the long run, stop acting like a bunch of girls over it and stop crying and playing their games.

 

Stop acting like you know what's going on with the three of them and what will happen to Rockstar and their games in the future. Most of you claim to be adults but you really come across and a bunch of children, the very people you all claim to hate and blame for the type of Updates GTAO gets.

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So many children, know-it-alls and crybabies ITT....

 

"Hurr durr no moar gud updatez onli Benny's cos Leslie iz gon waa"

"Me no like Rockstar now (Cockstar for the immature kids) coz Leslie not dere waaa"

"GTA6 will suck waa"

"Rockstar are greedy nd onli wont muny waaaa"

 

GTAO and the content being added into it has nothing to do with Leslie leaving at all, that's just between the Housers and him over what's there in the documents. If you feel that Grand Theft Auto, and R* as a whole are going to suffer in the long run, stop acting like a bunch of girls over it and stop crying and playing their games.

 

Stop acting like you know what's going on with the three of them and what will happen to Rockstar and their games in the future. Most of you claim to be adults but you really come across and a bunch of children, the very people you all claim to hate and blame for the type of Updates GTAO gets.

Sauce?

 

Oh yeah, Just like I thought.

 

Seriously, take it up with the b*tch and moan. No one cares about your petty whining.

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