Why do gamers feel the need to mod/hack/cheat in online games? *KEEP I

[AngryDeathTruck]

The main reason I feel modders exist is because of how stupid the money in GTA online is. Especially for the consoles. You can't mod games on the Xbox without messing it up. Another thing has to do with what r* is doing when it comes to shark cards. I figured out that it would take ten straight hours of missions just to get a million dollars when you can just buy a twenty dollar shark card and you're good. I'm not saying this is a bad thing but at the same time hours are spent in missions and I feel as though r* doesn't like people in freemode. There's no random events anymore and if there were you only get payed in a little amount. Sure someone can argue that we have the heists but they take too long and you always get either squeakers who don't know what to do or no one to join. Another disadvantage is you only get around 100,000 compared to the 2000,000 dollar price tag for most vehicles. It's going to get to the point where r* will have to let some modders slide. I don't condone modding but if this "cash grab" thing r* is doing keeps going I don't think GTA online will last. Especially since all we're getting now is high end piles of crap. Why can't we get stuff that is actually beneficial to the game and can help those who prefer cheaper vehicles over the expensive stuff we're constantly getting within these dlcs. I used to say modders were bad but now modders are the only way to save time and money.

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

Modders who cheat in pvp and hinder anothers game play. are cheating. That is just what cheating is in video games.

 

Modders who make great content are basically game devs... who sometimes do more for the game then the actual game devs do.

 

 

To me modders are not cheaters... But someone who wants to cheat can use mods to cheat.

 

to be presice , someone to do whatever it takes to win , even if its cost money . giving a literal of " screw rules , i have money " , unlike something like auto-aim or catch up ( where it's considered as " separate part " of difficulty , which GTA lacked traditional " easy medium hard " options . enabling these means it's same as choosing " easy " difficulty )

 

 

 

I don't see aim as a difficulty setting. I see auto aim as a means of not having to actually aim and bypassing the shooting mechanics involved in a game where shooting is a major part of pvp.

 

 

A broke ass auto aimer.. or rich ass auto aim is still using auto aim. Their bank accounts don't do the killing..

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

Auto aim is cheating... yet everyone gobbles that up like a turkey on thanks giving.

 

 

Mods... can be cheating if used against another player.

 

 

Getting free money or vehicles in gta is not considered cheating.. because thats a personal player choice. How they get it does not matter.. Be it by glitches.. modding.. or cash cards or grinding. Its not a big deal..

How is auto-aim cheating

 

 

You mean besides the fact that its aiming for you? Auto aim is simply a cheat.. used help players aim more easily.

 

 

But in this case im talking about Auto aim (Free aim assisted aim) in free aim. Which is basically cheating free aim players out of a free aim experience on CG that R* to happen and never fixed since current gen got released despite a petition and numerous complaints about it.

 

 

And... Using auto aim in free aim is a huge advantage over the player who does not use it. That is just cheating..

 

 

Another example is CATCH UP in races.. Its a f*ckin cheat.

 

Both of those two cheats have a way bigger impact on game play and game modes then someone elses bank account balance.

 

Cheating is having an unfair advantage over your opponent. If both players have auto-aim, it's fair, especially when it's an in-game feature. You can't just say it's cheating simply because you think free aim takes more skill.

 

Your logic is horribly flawed, like always.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Fearx--

[Sky_Light12]

 

 

 

 

I don't see aim as a difficulty setting. I see auto aim as a means of not having to actually aim and bypassing the shooting mechanics involved in a game where shooting is a major part of pvp.

 

 

A broke ass auto aimer.. or rich ass auto aim is still using auto aim. Their bank accounts don't do the killing..

 

you wouldn't want to completely " trashed " a newbie ( depends on mode ) into competition , seeing them like an easy target

there are terrible racers out there , terrible shooters and so which is why these " easy " parts makes the inexperienced players more comfortable

 

edit : i haven't counted OP NPCs either

Edited April 11, 2016 by Sky_Light12

[Mr_Zombly]

Auto aim is cheating... yet everyone gobbles that up like a turkey on thanks giving.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

 

Listening to some of you supposed "Legit Players", that have never cheated in a Video Game. Give me a break will ya. I Can Pretty much Guarantee We ALL have cheated on at least one video game or another at one point in our lifes, Its human nature. Btw if it hadn't been for Magazines like "Tips & Tricks" Magazine or websites like "Cheat Code Central" I would have given up gaming long ago.

 

Irl...hell exept nasty sh*t involving family and doing realy nasty sh*t to myself i woud do pretty much anything for 100 milion.

Lying, killing, manipulating...i woud not give a f*ck.

 

Lol...realy...100 milion is a lot of money...in such a case i coud sit on my ass all day for the rest of my life in a secluded small fortress for the rest of my life, getting served by a butler/prostitute 24/7

Also seeing as there are 7 bilion people anyhow i doubt the world woud miss a few.

[Mr_Zombly]

 

And... Using auto aim in free aim is a huge advantage over the player who does not use it. That is just cheating..

How does one manage to use auto aim in free aim?

[.Vooodu.]

Cheating is having an unfair advantage over your opponent. If both players have auto-aim, it's fair, especially when it's a in-game feature. You can't just say it's cheating simply because you think free aim takes more skill.

 

Your logic is horribly flawed, like always.

 

 

 

U still on old gen or something? Dafuk are you talking about?

 

 

 

I can go into free aim right now .. And auto aimers shoot at people who. who use free aim. And they don't have auto aim to lock on back with. Tell me again how flawed i am.. while i laugh at how flawed it actually is.

[Sky_Light12]

 

Cheating is having an unfair advantage over your opponent. If both players have auto-aim, it's fair, especially when it's a in-game feature. You can't just say it's cheating simply because you think free aim takes more skill.

 

Your logic is horribly flawed, like always.

 

 

 

U still on old gen or something? Dafuk are you talking about?

 

 

 

I can go into free aim right now .. And auto aimers shoot at people who. who use free aim. And they don't have auto aim to lock on back with. Tell me again how flawed i am.. while i laugh at how flawed it actually is.

 

must be those servers again , pfffff

" they end up mixing wrong juice instead , they gave you kale while you want orange juice "

Edited April 11, 2016 by Sky_Light12

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

And... Using auto aim in free aim is a huge advantage over the player who does not use it. That is just cheating..

How does one manage to use auto aim in free aim?

 

 

 

Go to settings. Turn on FREE AIM assisted aim. Then join GTA O.

 

You are now in free with with auto aim. Enjoy !

[Arrows to Athens]

 

Cheating is having an unfair advantage over your opponent. If both players have auto-aim, it's fair, especially when it's a in-game feature. You can't just say it's cheating simply because you think free aim takes more skill.

 

Your logic is horribly flawed, like always.

 

 

 

U still on old gen or something? Dafuk are you talking about?

 

 

 

I can go into free aim right now .. And auto aimers shoot at people who. who use free aim. And they don't have auto aim to lock on back with. Tell me again how flawed i am.. while i laugh at how flawed it actually is.

 

You said auto-aim itself is cheating; you said nothing about using auto-aim in free aim lobbies. Re-read your post again, because you obviously came off as too vague.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Fearx--

[iSaint9]

Because I felt like having someone drop hundreds of millions of dollars on me.

 

I couldn't care less if it bothers you.

[Sky_Light12]

Go to settings. Turn on FREE AIM assisted aim. Then join GTA O.

 

You are now in free with with auto aim. Enjoy !

 

wait a sec , it's a glitch

why blame auto-aim ? blame the glitcher

 

edit : found some glitch that allows you to use auto aim in free aim in additon modded account

Edited April 11, 2016 by Sky_Light12

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

But in this case im talking about Auto aim (Free aim assisted aim) in free aim. Which is basically cheating free aim players out of a free aim experience on CG That R* never fixed since current gen got released despite a petition and numerous complaints about it.

 

 

 

 

You said auto-aim itself is cheating; you said nothing about using auto-aim in free aim lobbies. Re-read your post again, because you obviously came off as too vague.

 

 

 

 

. I consider myself pretty blunt. I made it pretty clear i think.

[Sky_Light12]

why ? you'd love to rekt players who are terrible in FA ?

come on , just give a lv 30 chance

Edited April 11, 2016 by Sky_Light12

[Fox2Quick]

 

 

 

Modders who cheat in pvp and hinder anothers game play. are cheating. That is just what cheating is in video games.

 

Modders who make great content are basically game devs... who sometimes do more for the game then the actual game devs do.

 

 

To me modders are not cheaters... But someone who wants to cheat can use mods to cheat.

 

to be presice , someone to do whatever it takes to win , even if its cost money . giving a literal of " screw rules , i have money " , unlike something like auto-aim or catch up ( where it's considered as " separate part " of difficulty , which GTA lacked traditional " easy medium hard " options . enabling these means it's same as choosing " easy " difficulty )

 

 

I don't see aim as a difficulty setting. I see auto aim as a means of not having to actually aim and bypassing the shooting mechanics involved in a game where shooting is a major part of pvp.

 

 

A broke ass auto aimer.. or rich ass auto aim is still using auto aim. Their bank accounts don't do the killing..

Their bank accounts have a direct relation to their guns and ammo. Especially taking into account all the guns that you can buy without being a specific level.

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

 

But in this case im talking about Auto aim (Free aim assisted aim) in free aim. Which is basically cheating free aim players out of a free aim experience on CG That R* never fixed since current gen got released despite a petition and numerous complaints about it.

 

 

 

 

You said auto-aim itself is cheating; you said nothing about using auto-aim in free aim lobbies. Re-read your post again, because you obviously came off as too vague.

 

 

 

 

. I consider myself pretty blunt. I made it pretty clear i think.

 

''Auto aim is cheating... yet everyone gobbles that up like a turkey on thanks giving. ''

 

Tell me, if you were to read that, would you really think the poster is talking about auto-aim in free aim, or auto-aim in general?

 

If you want to make a point, make it clear and coherent.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Fearx--

[DangerZ0neX]

I am a bland self-entitled person who gets massively upset at anyone who doesn't agree with me or play exactly like I do, and even if your infinite amount of money and rank doesn't affect me in any way I still feel offended and oppressed, so I'll report you to a company who I'm sure doesn't give a sh*t about me but they're still my favorite because of the technically free DLC with over-inflated prices.

 

It's not my fault you have a job and a family to take care of, you should've been a neckbeard loser who lives in his mother's filthy basement doing nothing but play GTA Online and being a backseat mod on a fan forum, just like me.

 

*sips m'dew*

Edited April 11, 2016 by DangerZ0neX

[.Vooodu.]

why ? you'd love to rekt players who are terrible in FA ?

come on , just give a lv 30 chance

 

 

And when a lvl 700 player with auto aim goes against a lvl 30 with free aim. Then what?

 

 

Should the lvl 30 free aim player have NO chance at all...?

[Sky_Light12]

 

why ? you'd love to rekt players who are terrible in FA ?

come on , just give a lv 30 chance

 

 

And when a lvl 700 player with auto aim goes against a lvl 30 with free aim. Then what?

 

 

Should the lvl 30 free aim player have NO chance at all...?

 

oh that high , over lv 500 i accepts their humiliation ( if you can rekt lv 500s , especially low level curb-stomps lv 8000 )

 

unless the lv 30 whips out dirty tricks , then you can rage all you want . and while they're considereably well armed ( special carbines , etc ) , i didn't think they would been easily survive without experienced on FA

Edited April 11, 2016 by Sky_Light12

[.Vooodu.]

 

Their bank accounts have a direct relation to their guns and ammo. Especially taking into account all the guns that you can buy without being a specific level.

 

 

 

A few basic contact missions is enough ammo and guns for a night of free roam wars. sh*t i make myself broke on purpose to just avoid insurance..

 

 

Stil see it as a non issue. Other players bank is none of my business..

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why ? you'd love to rekt players who are terrible in FA ?

come on , just give a lv 30 chance

 

 

And when a lvl 700 player with auto aim goes against a lvl 30 with free aim. Then what?

 

 

Should the lvl 30 free aim player have NO chance at all...?

 

oh that high , over lv 500 i accepts their humiliation

 

unless the lv 30 whips out dirty tricks , then you can rage all you want . and while they're considereably armed well ( special carbines , etc ) , i didn't think they would been easily survive without experienced on FA

 

 

 

And when a lvl 500 with auto aim goes against a lvl 500 with free aim?

 

I mean seriously.. no matter how you slice it. Auto aim is a cheat mechanic. And to have a game mode called FREE AIM where players can still use AUTO AIM.. Is not fair at all.

[Sky_Light12]

 

And when a lvl 500 with auto aim goes against a lvl 500 with free aim?

 

I mean seriously.. no matter how you slice it. Auto aim is a cheat mechanic. And to have a game mode called FREE AIM where players can still use AUTO AIM.. Is not fair at all.

 

hmmm..... other results either a glitch or modded account's doing

Edited April 11, 2016 by Sky_Light12

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

 

 

But in this case im talking about Auto aim (Free aim assisted aim) in free aim. Which is basically cheating free aim players out of a free aim experience on CG That R* never fixed since current gen got released despite a petition and numerous complaints about it.

 

 

 

 

You said auto-aim itself is cheating; you said nothing about using auto-aim in free aim lobbies. Re-read your post again, because you obviously came off as too vague.

 

 

 

 

. I consider myself pretty blunt. I made it pretty clear i think.

 

 

If you want to make a point, make it clear and coherent.

 

 

 

I did..I Even underlined it and made the text BIGGER FOR YOU... Because i know how bad your vision can get and how easily you can miss the actual point.

Edited April 11, 2016 by HulioG

[psymin]

speaking for myself as a friendly player (i don't like to ruin other people's experience)

 

because I'm not a slave to the demands of corporate interests in order to have the experience I desire.

 

because I'm not a slave to other people's opinions.

 

because I'm not a slave to a false sense of morality in an entertainment medium.

 

and most importantly -

 

because I can.

 

I control as many aspects of my personal experience as possible.

 

makes me happy.

[Blasterman4EVER]

Undiagnosed mental illness, primarily, which includes, but is not limited to:

social anxiety disorder

anti-social personality disorder

major depressive episodes

bi-polar disorder

manic depressive disorder

schizophrenia

Generally speaking, cheaters, modders, and hackers are jaded, corrupted, unhappy individuals who have failed to conform to acceptable standards in society, and/or do not have the ability to empathize with other human beings.

In short, they need psychological and social help from professionals, their friends, and their family.

I say all of this with 100% serious intent and a straight-face, with slightly cocked glasses and at least one fish-eye.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Blasterman4EVER

[Member's Only]

Undiagnosed mental illness, primarily, which includes, but is not limited to:

 

social anxiety disorder

anti-social personality disorder

major depressive episodes

bi-polar disorder

manic depressive disorder

schizophrenia

 

Generally speaking, cheaters, modders, and hackers are jaded, corrupted, unhappy individuals who have failed to conform to acceptable standards in society, and/or do not have the ability to empathize with other human beings.

 

In short, they need psychological and social help from professionals, their friends, and their family.

Only a huge sperg can come up with this sh*t lmao.

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

 

 

 

But in this case im talking about Auto aim (Free aim assisted aim) in free aim. Which is basically cheating free aim players out of a free aim experience on CG That R* never fixed since current gen got released despite a petition and numerous complaints about it.

 

 

 

 

You said auto-aim itself is cheating; you said nothing about using auto-aim in free aim lobbies. Re-read your post again, because you obviously came off as too vague.

 

 

 

 

. I consider myself pretty blunt. I made it pretty clear i think.

 

 

If you want to make a point, make it clear and coherent.

 

 

 

I did..I Even underlined it and made the text BIGGER FOR YOU... Because i know how bad your vision can get and how easily you can miss the actual point.

 

Before that post, you said ''auto-aim is cheating''. Don't try and evade it, so stop erasing everything from my post to do so.

 

''Auto aim is cheating... yet everyone gobbles that up like a turkey on thanks giving.''

 

That was your initial post. Does it ring any bells? You seem lost. You assume I have bad vision as a result of your confusion.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Fearx--

[shadowoperative]

It turns a special kind of person to turn a thread its ear.

 

Every thread is becoming AA sucks or we need the Hunter.

 

No to both.

[FlacidJack]

5 days later and this is an auto aim vs free aim battle? WTF???

 

May I join please? (removes shirt and slaps on spandex shorts)

as a free aim player I feel that lobby should be reserved only for unassisted aim / free aim. <---Period

Now, that's not the case for some odd reason but imo that's R* catering to players that like to have an advantage at all time, a.k.a "cheaters". BUT... Using assisted aim in GTAO free aim lobbies doesn't make you a cheater, it's an available option after all. It's just another sign of R* creating a special lobby for those that like a bit more of a challenge then allowing a optional "cheat" to anyone in that lobby. Since R* put in that option anyone using it is not a cheater but in a lobby specifically called a "free aim lobby" I think we can all agree (except using R* logic) that lobby should only have one aim option, right?

 

Doesn't bother me either way. I've learned to adapt to it.

[XenoxX]

Great guys you have turned a discussion about a sensitive subject, "cheaters" into another discussion with a sensitive subject "Free Aim vs Auto Aim"... this will probably go very well...