Why do gamers feel the need to mod/hack/cheat in online games? *KEEP I

[Hunter]

 

 

If a complete stranger on the road gifted you a video game, you would not value it as much as you value your purchase, sure you would still play the game and try not to damage it, but if it got damaged it would basically mean almost nothing to you.

Actually I would value it. It would be their gift to me; that means something.

 

But outside of how much it means to you, and/or where the money came from, in my eyes getting an immediate boost in money for simply pressing a button counts as cheating.

 

Not that I have anything wrong with that at all, since this game's a grind to make money in otherwise (in my opinion). I don't blame people.

[CMCSAVAGE]

 

 

Rockstar already gave people the ability to cheat with shark cards - I see no difference whatsoever between them and modding,

 

You don't see the difference, or you don't know the difference? By using your own words, you should be glad people "cheat". I'd imagine if they didn't, you'd see all these updates in the form of paid DLC.

 

I don't see the difference. Maybe someone could explain it, from a gameplay perspective?

I've got nothing against people who buy the cards, or those who glitch money. I consider them all to be cheating, though I don't see that as a particularly large crime. As long as it doesn't give them significant PvP advantages over other players (which it doesn't).

 

Why would it have to be from a gameplay perspective? You're setting your own criteria to support your personal opinion. Also, by your own claim, if money doesn't give anyone an advantage over anyone else, then how can you call it cheating to begin with?

 

cheat

CHēt/

verb

gerund or present participle: cheating

1. 1.

   act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.

Edited April 11, 2016 by CMCSAVAGE

[Hunter]

 

 

Why would it have to be from a gameplay perspective? You're setting your own criteria to support your personal opinion. Also, by your own claim, if money doesn't give anyone an advantage over anyone else, then how can you call it cheating to begin with?

 

cheat

CHēt/

verb

gerund or present participle: cheating

1. 1.

   act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.

 

This is a game; not a measure of morality. Gameplay is all that matters to me.

 

It does give you advantages anyway - just more personal ones. Having stuff quicker, etc. It doesn't exactly make your character stronger, or turn on god mode, or anything like that.

 

At the end of the day, I see it as cheating. That's my viewpoint.

 

Don't know why people are getting so offended. It is what it is. I don't have anything against people who cheat to get more money on this game, be it Rockstar-sponsored cheating or otherwise.

[idonknowhow]

No one find this troll?

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/837311-why-do-gamers-feel-the-need-to-modhackcheat-in-online-games/?hl=mod

Edited April 11, 2016 by idonknowhow

[xInfamousRYANx]

De ja Vu?

[CMCSAVAGE]

 

It does give you advantages anyway - just more personal ones. Having stuff quicker, etc. It doesn't exactly make your character stronger, or turn on god mode, or anything like that.

 

At the end of the day, I see it as cheating. That's my viewpoint.

 

Don't know why people are getting so offended. It is what it is. I don't have anything against people who cheat to get more money on this game, be it Rockstar-sponsored cheating or otherwise.

 

 

Who's offended? I'm actually amused. You label something as cheating, yet you counter yourself by saying it has no advantage.... You can't twist the meaning of a word.

[Hunter]

 

 

Who's offended? I'm actually amused. You label something as cheating, yet you counter yourself by saying it has no advantage.... You can't twist the meaning of a word.

 

I'm glad you're not offended then. Those were just the vibes I got, but I guess vibes aren't infallible.

 

Alright, so my argument is a little muddled lol. But there's still some meaning to it. I mean, it doesn't give you significant advantages in PvP, but it does help you get ahead in general.

 

I don't hold anything against shark - card buyers anyway. We're all just people playing the same game, at the end of the day.

 

I'm sorry if what I said came across as disrespectful to you

[CMCSAVAGE]

I'm sorry if what I said came across as disrespectful to you

 

You weren't, so there's no need to be. I'm just a stickler for definition.....

[Mr_Zombly]

 

 

It does give you advantages anyway - just more personal ones. Having stuff quicker, etc. It doesn't exactly make your character stronger, or turn on god mode, or anything like that.

 

I'm pretty sure that there's a fast run option for some of the modded accounts I've spoken to, as much as I couldn't care less about the other stuff, this could prove to be a problem and is definitely something that can be used to ruin other people's times.

 

If I see a modded account, it's whatever, you have fun with that, but if a cheater is using his advantages to try f*ck with me or other players, I will report.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Mr_Zombly

[LincolnClay]

Because they don't know how to play the game properly, so they use mods/glitches/hacks to become better at the game.

[Kesha_F1]

All cheaters in GTA Online must be killed banned! If you use cheats you are garbage! And stop calling cheaters like modders! They **** CHEATERS!

 

Rank boost? Yes, it cheat!

Street race win with extra $$$? Yes, it cheat!

Money bags? Yes, it cheat!

Etc.

 

These **** cheaters ruin our game!

 

I hate this cheat garbage!

 

P.S. And ppl who call money from cheaters, must be banned too!

Edited April 11, 2016 by Kesha_F1

[Anda7x]

Report button is broken,i reported one guy last week and he still online lol

Edited April 11, 2016 by Avenged Sevenfold

[.Vooodu.]

Auto aim is cheating... yet everyone gobbles that up like a turkey on thanks giving.

 

 

Mods... can be cheating if used against another player.

 

 

Getting free money or vehicles in gta is not considered cheating.. because thats a personal player choice. How they get it does not matter.. Be it by glitches.. modding.. or cash cards or grinding. Its not a big deal..

[Anda7x]

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[XenoxX]

Auto aim is cheating... yet everyone gobbles that up like a turkey on thanks giving.

 

 

Mods... can be cheating if used against another player.

 

 

Getting free money or vehicles in gta is not considered cheating.. because thats a personal player choice. How they get it does not matter.. Be it by glitches.. modding.. or cash cards or grinding. Its not a big deal..

It is still cheating, you are not the one who defines what is important for a GTA or not, cheating is the act of "playing unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.",

Cheating money is unfair, that is simply how it is.

[.Vooodu.]

 

Auto aim is cheating... yet everyone gobbles that up like a turkey on thanks giving.

 

 

Mods... can be cheating if used against another player.

 

 

Getting free money or vehicles in gta is not considered cheating.. because thats a personal player choice. How they get it does not matter.. Be it by glitches.. modding.. or cash cards or grinding. Its not a big deal..

It is still cheating, you are not the one who defines what is important for a GTA or not, cheating is the act of "playing unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.",

Cheating money is unfair, that is simply how it is.

 

 

 

But the only person being effected by cheating money is take two on quarterly profit earnings while they reap big profits with minor updates. Hardly cheating in my books they are making major bank even with people 'cheating' money.

 

Hell, in reality R* cheats us with NO actual big DLCS... and lack of single players DLCs. They don't seem to care about game balance and fixing their online game. They still allow auto aim in free aim for some reason and this game connection issues is still a problem.

 

Its hard to sit there and think that cheating money in gta is cheating.. Since someones bank balance has ZERO effect on me. So for me.. i don't care either way.

[Arachne]

Because some players are so bad at playing video games that they need some kind of advantage in order to play.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Arachne

[lll-H-I-M-lll]

Anyone gifted their riches or modded them make the most of it because the next gta will be run with a iron fist we will all be on the same boat thats for sure

[Arrows to Athens]

Auto aim is cheating... yet everyone gobbles that up like a turkey on thanks giving.

 

 

Mods... can be cheating if used against another player.

 

 

Getting free money or vehicles in gta is not considered cheating.. because thats a personal player choice. How they get it does not matter.. Be it by glitches.. modding.. or cash cards or grinding. Its not a big deal..

How is auto-aim cheating if it's a feature of the game, and everyone has it? It's an aim setting and a play-style that is part of the game, and everyone has it, so how can that be considered cheating? Or was that supposed to be an attempt at sarcasm, which happened to fly over my head?

Edited April 11, 2016 by Fearx--

[Sky_Light12]

 

Auto aim is cheating... yet everyone gobbles that up like a turkey on thanks giving.

 

 

Mods... can be cheating if used against another player.

 

 

Getting free money or vehicles in gta is not considered cheating.. because thats a personal player choice. How they get it does not matter.. Be it by glitches.. modding.. or cash cards or grinding. Its not a big deal..

How is auto-aim cheating if it's a feature of the game, and everyone has it? It's an aim setting and a play-style that is part of the game, and everyone has it, so how can that be considered cheating? Or was that supposed to be an attempt at sarcasm, which happened to fly over my head?

umm... you ever heard that G is obessed with " skillz " ?

* facepalm * damn blood knights

Edited April 11, 2016 by Sky_Light12

[Sugarfoot]

Because some players are so bad at playing video games that they need some kind of advantage in order to play.

 

Yea I've come across some really bad players with modded accounts. They are level 500+ and shoot like a level 2 lol.

Edited April 11, 2016 by UNRULYWOE

[Arrows to Athens]

 

Listening to some of you supposed "Legit Players", that have never cheated in a Video Game. Give me a break will ya. I Can Pretty much Guarantee We ALL have cheated on at least one video game or another at one point in our lifes, Its human nature. Btw if it hadn't been for Magazines like "Tips & Tricks" Magazine or websites like "Cheat Code Central" I would have given up gaming long ago.

 

Irl...hell exept nasty sh*t involving family and doing realy nasty sh*t to myself i woud do pretty much anything for 100 milion.

Lying, killing, manipulating...i woud not give a f*ck.

 

 

 

[AlienTwo]

 

*KEEP IT CIVIL!*

If you are a gamer of any online game such as Grand Theft Auto Online or any MMO for that matter, You've probably already know that you at one time or another have ran into someone who has taken advantage of the game by putting in mods, have hacked an endless supply of money on their account, made their character reach level 1 to 8000 in mere seconds, made their character invincible, and other numerous ways to advance themselves effortlessly.

Usually, when I encounter someone who has cheated by doing any of the following listed, I report them and will usually submit a ticket to Rockstar Games and try and go about my business.

Normally, I will just let that person know they have been reported and be on my way.

Half the time, I will get no response.

But there will be those times where that person will respond and it usually is followed by insults or in rare occasions, A full on debate about cheating/modding/hacking in general.

I have heard numerous arguments and defenses about why people cheat/mod/hack these types of games and I still don't get it.

I don't see why people would want to waste their time to advance themselves in a video game without playing the game legitimately and in games like GTAO, earn what they have acquired instead of uploading a modding program to get what they want.

Hopefully most of you have similar or equal views and have gotten everything you have acquired on GTAO without cheating.

But I'm sure there are people here that have taken the easy way out and cheated their way into riches and progress effortlessly.

I'm open for discussion and debate on this subject. Maybe you can enlighten me.

*KEEP IT CIVIL!*

 

Why do you take your time to report people who have leveled up or gotten illegal money? How does that affect you enough to make an attempt at ruining their game? Not trying to be snarky, honestly curious. I get it about god mode, wall breacking or OTR...

[.Vooodu.]

 

Auto aim is cheating... yet everyone gobbles that up like a turkey on thanks giving.

 

 

Mods... can be cheating if used against another player.

 

 

Getting free money or vehicles in gta is not considered cheating.. because thats a personal player choice. How they get it does not matter.. Be it by glitches.. modding.. or cash cards or grinding. Its not a big deal..

How is auto-aim cheating

 

 

You mean besides the fact that its aiming for you? Auto aim is simply a cheat.. used help players aim more easily.

 

 

But in this case im talking about Auto aim (Free aim assisted aim) in free aim. Which is basically cheating free aim players out of a free aim experience on CG That R* never fixed since current gen got released despite a petition and numerous complaints about it.

 

 

And... Using auto aim in free aim is a huge advantage over the player who does not use it. That is just cheating..

 

 

Another example is CATCH UP in races.. Its a f*ckin cheat.

 

Both of those two cheats have a way bigger impact on game play and game modes then someone elses bank account balance.

Edited April 11, 2016 by HulioG

[AlienTwo]

It's not a cheat if it's an intended game function. That would be like saying "Rolling two 6's in Monopoly is a cheat, how else can you go that far with JUST ONE TURN???"

[.Vooodu.]

umm... you ever heard that G is obessed with " skillz " ?

 

 

 

 

Meh.. Leet skillz is never the point of any of my actual points.. Infact i could care less

 

Im more of a person who looks at the bigger picture, actual game play mechanics cause and effect.

[Sky_Light12]

 

You mean besides the fact that its aiming for you? Auto aim is simply a cheat.. used help players aim more easily.

 

 

But in this case im talking about Auto aim (Free aim assisted aim) in free aim. Which is basically cheating free aim players out of a free aim experience on CG that R* to happen and never fixed since current gen got released despite a petition and numerous complaints about it.

 

 

And... Using auto aim in free aim is a huge advantage over the player who does not use it. That is just cheating..

 

 

Another example is CATCH UP in races.. Its a f*ckin cheat.

 

Both of those two cheats have a way bigger impact on game play and game modes then someone elses bank account balance.

 

so , G ,what about modders ?

obvious difference that even auto-aim is no match aganist spammed explosives out of nowhere

 

edit : so it seems you are person who loves virtual fights , blood knight ( doesn't have to be literal nor even rank , just altitude . someone who doesn't care win or lose but think fights and at same time , doesn't play dirty either )

Edited April 11, 2016 by Sky_Light12

[Guest]

Thats deep OP. Way too deep. As for GTAO I can see why people "cheat". If you want to enjoy what GTAO has to offer. You have to grind like a mad man or pay for shark cards. The content is over priced and not everyone can afford the time/money you have to put into the game. On top of that R* limit customization so players glitch, mod to get what they want.

 

Then there's the small minority of players that modify the game to grief other players. Thankfully they are a rarity and if you do bump into one. Passive mode, leave the server or annoy them.

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

You mean besides the fact that its aiming for you? Auto aim is simply a cheat.. used help players aim more easily.

 

 

But in this case im talking about Auto aim (Free aim assisted aim) in free aim. Which is basically cheating free aim players out of a free aim experience on CG that R* to happen and never fixed since current gen got released despite a petition and numerous complaints about it.

 

 

And... Using auto aim in free aim is a huge advantage over the player who does not use it. That is just cheating..

 

 

Another example is CATCH UP in races.. Its a f*ckin cheat.

 

Both of those two cheats have a way bigger impact on game play and game modes then someone elses bank account balance.

 

so , G ,what about modders ?

obvious difference that even auto-aim is no match aganist spammed explosives out of nowhere

 

 

 

Modders who cheat in pvp and hinder anothers game play. are cheating. That is just what cheating is in video games.

 

Modders who make great content are basically game devs... who sometimes do more for the game then the actual game devs do.

 

 

To me modders are not cheaters... But someone who wants to cheat can use mods to cheat.

[Sky_Light12]

 

Modders who cheat in pvp and hinder anothers game play. are cheating. That is just what cheating is in video games.

 

Modders who make great content are basically game devs... who sometimes do more for the game then the actual game devs do.

 

 

To me modders are not cheaters... But someone who wants to cheat can use mods to cheat.

 

to be precise , someone to do whatever it takes to win , even if its cost money . giving a literal of " screw rules , i have money " , unlike something like auto-aim or catch up ( where it's considered as " separate part " of difficulty , which GTA lacked traditional " easy medium hard " options . enabling these means it's same as choosing " easy " difficulty ) , where it doesn't charge a single cent to use it

Edited April 11, 2016 by Sky_Light12