Scarface: The World is Yours

[StraightouttaNewport]

One of the best open world games of its era. Really made you feel more like a crime lord compared to any GTA game. 

[Zello]

There was a Scarface 2 in the works that was supposed to see Tony Montana in Las Vegas but unfortunately it got cancelled.

f*ckin Activsion...

[deathdealer]

Man, I wanna replay this game so bad.

[universetwisters]

Tbh the one thing that really put me off this game was the crappy map design. It didn’t really feel like a proper sprawling, it just felt like the small towns in San Andreas, each connected with a road or two with jungle or swampland in between. But then again, the Simpsons Hit and Run had this same issue too and they were both made by the same developer.

 

Also f*ck the mission where you have to fight your way out of the freedomtown camp with no weapons, that’s when I quit playing the game 

[Mister Pink]

On 6/25/2022 at 6:48 AM, Zello said:

There was a Scarface 2 in the works that was supposed to see Tony Montana in Las Vegas but unfortunately it got cancelled.

That's actually depressing. Whoever cancelled this game should get cancelled themsevles for being a f*cking dimwitted piss-mongrel. 

 

I wish some developer would actually have the balls to come a long and do a period Vegas crime game. It's ripe for the picking. 

[Zello]

10 minutes ago, Mister Pink said:

Whoever cancelled this game should get cancelled themsevles for being a f*cking dimwitted piss-mongrel. 

Bobby Kotick

[Algonquin Assassin]

Would a sequel really have been necessary? It’s not like it’s the type of game that lends itself well to a sequel since the movie was run and done.

 

Anyway I’ve always felt one of this biggest travesties for this game is not being ported to PS3 and 360. It’s ripe for remaster treatment. I’d love to play this on my PS5 in 4K.

 

 

Edited June 28, 2022 by Algonquin Assassin

[Bigglo145]

1 hour ago, Mister Pink said:

That's actually depressing. Whoever cancelled this game should get cancelled themsevles for being a f*cking dimwitted piss-mongrel. 

 

I wish some developer would actually have the balls to come a long and do a period Vegas crime game. It's ripe for the picking. 

Remember the cancelled game: this is vegas?

[Mister Pink]

1 hour ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

Would a sequel really have been necessary? It’s not like it’s the type of game that lends itself well to a sequel since the movie was run and done.

With that kind of thinking would the original game even be nesscessay?  Not really. But they made a what-if scenario and I think it worked really well as a game. Why not? Tony Montana's character and story seems to lends itself perfectly to to videogames. And to make a sequel in videogame format where there obviously isn't and can't be a sequel for a film, it's a nice alternate Montana story. The film is still the film and will always remain the way it is. The game won't take away from that, IMO. It's more new Scarface content, in a city that's perfect for a crime story and more GTA style action. 

 

1 hour ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

Anyway I’ve always felt one of this biggest travesties for this game is not being ported to PS3 and 360. It’s ripe for remaster treatment. I’d love to play this on my PS5 in 4K.

My thoughts excactly. It came out at the end of the generation and I think many people slept on it or just too focussed on the next gen at the time. I've been dying to replay it for years but as time goes by and graphics start dating so much it's getting hard. 

 

15 minutes ago, Bigglo145 said:

Remember the cancelled game: this is vegas?

Yes! But I think it was called 2 Days To Vegas. Looked like a lot of fun. The screenshots they released were like photo-realistic at the time. But they look dated now. But remember they were mind-blowing and nobody believed we could get graphics that good on the 360 and I'm sure they were right. 

 

Edited June 28, 2022 by Mister Pink

[Ivan1997GTA]

2 hours ago, Mister Pink said:

That's actually depressing. Whoever cancelled this game should get cancelled themsevles for being a f*cking dimwitted piss-mongrel. 

 

I wish some developer would actually have the balls to come a long and do a period Vegas crime game. It's ripe for the picking. 

Maybe it could be done in a form of a spiritual successor to Scarface: The World is Yours.

[Lock n' Stock]

Man, TWIY was so f*cking good. Just like The Warriors game, it's clear it was made with nothing but love for the source material. I wish there had been more of these ambitious video games based on cult movies.

 

Regarding this sequel, looks like it had a lot of promise based on what had been finished. It potentially could have stood it's own alongside GTA IV and Saints Row 2 imo. Of course, the hacks at Activision had to rob us of it.

Edited July 1, 2022 by Lock n' Stock

[Zello]

On 6/28/2022 at 9:37 AM, Algonquin Assassin said:

Would a sequel really have been necessary? It’s not like it’s the type of game that lends itself well to a sequel since the movie was run and done.

It's a what if scenario if Tony Survived. Apparently they planned to do like 4 or 5 games. At least that's what they said in some old interviews.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2005/07/06/scarface-and-50-cent-sequels-planned

Edited July 1, 2022 by Zello

[Lock n' Stock]

On 6/28/2022 at 3:40 PM, Mister Pink said:

With that kind of thinking would the original game even be nesscessay?  Not really. But they made a what-if scenario and I think it worked really well as a game. Why not? Tony Montana's character and story seems to lends itself perfectly to to videogames. And to make a sequel in videogame format where there obviously isn't and can't be a sequel for a film, it's a nice alternate Montana story. The film is still the film and will always remain the way it is. The game won't take away from that, IMO. It's more new Scarface content, in a city that's perfect for a crime story and more GTA style action.

The funny thing is, it did some things even better than GTA at the time, like having actual responsive shooting mechanics (as opposed to the janky gunplay of PS2-era GTA) and the ability to build up your own crime/drug empire. Not even VCS's empire system (which felt out-of-character for Vic anyway) was as in-depth as Scarface's.

 

Probably the ONLY thing about the game that really pissed me off was it's horrible wanted system. As far as "GTA clones" go however, I'd easily say it's one of the best, alongside Saints Row 2, Sleeping Dogs and Simpsons: Hit and Run (which ironically, Radical also developed).

Edited July 1, 2022 by Lock n' Stock

[universetwisters]

48 minutes ago, Lock n' Stock said:

Not even VCS's empire system (which felt out-of-character for Vic anyway) was as in-depth as Scarface's.

I respectfully unagree. I’d rather buy property and then make my choice as to what kind of business I put on it as opposed to just waltzing into a random store and going “ay man I wanna buy this place” just to use it to launder money.

 

 

 

 

[Lock n' Stock]

1 hour ago, universetwisters said:

I respectfully unagree. I’d rather buy property and then make my choice as to what kind of business I put on it as opposed to just waltzing into a random store and going “ay man I wanna buy this place” just to use it to launder money.

Good point. What I liked about TWIY's system however was the ability to hire hitman/escorts (who could deliver your cars to you), invest in different business ventures (like music and sports) and upgrade your mansion. Having your fronts become destroyed by rival gangs and having to pay out the ass to get them fixed back up did get old pretty fast tho.

Edited July 1, 2022 by Lock n' Stock

[universetwisters]

10 hours ago, Lock n' Stock said:

Having your fronts become destroyed by rival gangs and having to pay out the ass to get them fixed back up did get old pretty fast tho.

It gave you a reason to hustle hustle on that grind and buy up every single property so the attacks stop!!!!

 

I remember that, being able to hire drivers and bodyguards etc. I thought they’d just go off and do it offscreen but then I found out you control them and I’m like fuuuuuck

[Creed Bratton]

The game was full of surprises. But it was released at the time I didn't really follow gaming news, I just grabbed whatever looked cool at the store. I didn't even know that the game was open world when I bought it. So that was the first positive surprise. Then the game surprised me again by having another map. It was just such a cool and rewarding experience.

[deathdealer]

 

I wonder if I can get a decent pc copy and if I can get it working on windows 10?

[B Dawg]

5 hours ago, deathdealer said:

 

I wonder if I can get a decent pc copy and if I can get it working on windows 10?

Download it off MyAbandonware

[Bigglo145]

I miss the days when we had many open world games. Like gta, scarface, saints row, godfather, driver and etc. nowadays all we have is saints row, watchdogs and gta hasnt released a game in 10 years now. Im so tired of vs los santos

[Lock n' Stock]

On 7/3/2022 at 3:42 AM, deathdealer said:

I wonder if I can get a decent pc copy and if I can get it working on windows 10?

It's abandonware, so you can basically download it for free at this point, though you'll likely need to install the SilentPatch to get it working.

 

However, I've had a LOT of trouble getting it to work with a gamepad/controller. If only it had some sort of mod similar to GInput.

Edited July 4, 2022 by Lock n' Stock

[Algonquin Assassin]

On 6/29/2022 at 12:40 AM, Mister Pink said:

With that kind of thinking would the original game even be nesscessay?  Not really. But they made a what-if scenario and I think it worked really well as a game. Why not? Tony Montana's character and story seems to lends itself perfectly to to videogames. And to make a sequel in videogame format where there obviously isn't and can't be a sequel for a film, it's a nice alternate Montana story. The film is still the film and will always remain the way it is. The game won't take away from that, IMO. It's more new Scarface content, in a city that's perfect for a crime story and more GTA style action. 

 

I totally get it. I love how this game worked as a "what if?" type of thing and worked well as continuation of the movie's story, but I just don't see how a sequel would work any where near as good without feeling like a cheap movie tie in cash grab. It's probably a similar reason why R* didn't bother making a sequel to The Warriors since there was never a sequel to base it on.

 

Just a personal preference, but I don't think sequels are always necessary and certainly not for an excuse for a new setting. Las Vegas and Scarface don't really seem like a good fit for eachother anyway IMO.  

[Bigglo145]

On 7/10/2022 at 9:38 PM, Algonquin Assassin said:

 

I totally get it. I love how this game worked as a "what if?" type of thing and worked well as continuation of the movie's story, but I just don't see how a sequel would work any where near as good without feeling like a cheap movie tie in cash grab. It's probably a similar reason why R* didn't bother making a sequel to The Warriors since there was never a sequel to base it on.

 

Just a personal preference, but I don't think sequels are always necessary and certainly not for an excuse for a new setting. Las Vegas and Scarface don't really seem like a good fit for eachother anyway IMO.  

Yeah i think New York would have fit better. Tony was actually doing business in New York if i can recall correctly, he definitely was in nyc at some point in that movie lol

[CryptReaperDorian]

Such as shame we haven't gotten a full-fledged Las Vegas crime sandbox, Scarface or not. It seemed like a good opportunity to further polish and expand onto TWIY's formula. It'd been great to see if the writing could have been further improved. One gripe I have with TWIY is that the dialogue relies far too much of the movie's quotes. I only imagine that what we've heard in the movie would only be a small handful of clever things a kingpin like Tony Montana would think up.

 

On 6/30/2022 at 11:22 PM, Lock n' Stock said:

As far as "GTA clones" go however, I'd easily say it's one of the best, alongside Saints Row 2, Sleeping Dogs and Simpsons: Hit and Run (which ironically, Radical also developed).

I actually agree quite wholeheartedly. These four games are really the pinnacle of the "GTA clones" for me also. Aside from those, I actually enjoyed True Crime: New York City more than most people, and The Getaway was quite a unique experience. The Saboteur was a quite enjoyable sort-of-hybrid of GTA, Assassin's Creed, and Mafia.

 

On 7/3/2022 at 1:47 PM, Bigglo145 said:

I miss the days when we had many open world games. Like gta, scarface, saints row, godfather, driver and etc. nowadays all we have is saints row, watchdogs and gta hasnt released a game in 10 years now. Im so tired of vs los santos

Speaking of the "crime sandbox" subcategory. Otherwise, people are actually starting to bemoan that everything nowadays is a sandbox game. Except most of them are a copy-and-paste of Ubisoft's homework, and they typically have a bunch of repetitive BS plastered over a large, soulless map to pad out playtime.

[Zello]

1 hour ago, CryptReaperDorian said:

Except most of them are a copy-and-paste of Ubisoft's homework, and they typically have a bunch of repetitive BS plastered over a large, soulless map to pad out playtime.

Also a lot of them these days fall into the category of fantasy/historic/zombies/scifi/medieval settings. Rarely have they been grounded and focused on crime.

Edited July 17, 2022 by Zello

[universetwisters]

Tbh I’m kinda happy the sequel got canned because it makes no sense and would probably be a big ol flop. Not only Tony Montana survives the shootout but also goes to Vegas? Sounds like bad fanfiction to me 

[Nico]

I remember my brother playing this on PS2 many years ago. Back then I looked at it, and visually it seemed inferior to even the 3D era GTA games, so I never gave it a chance. Until recently when the youtuber TheProfessional did a playthrough of it.

 

I have to say it's quite an amazing game, and it's a shame it has been forgotten, with it not being available for sale anywhere. Although I suppose that's due to the game rights of the movie being owned by Universal rather than licensed to any studio out there. I agree that perhaps canning the sequel was a good idea; the game already forces you out of the sad, but great original ending of the movie, and I think further extending it would have started to hamper the value of the franchise in the name of money (something that happens a lot these days).

 

I like the empire system much more than both Vice City and Vice City Stories, to be honest. Bringing the drugs from the Caribbean Islands and then distributing onto the streets, while fighting against enemy gangs is pretty cool to me. I love the combat, and how gory it is. It's not RDR2 gore, but it's pretty good for the standards of its day. If there is something negative that stands out, it's the god awful driving physics. I like the sense of speed the fastest cars give you, but vehicles feel glued to the ground, like if they had an insane amount of weight to them, but at the same time every impact with street props feels like you just hit a heavy rock or wall. You can hardly pass between two cars without the latest inch of your car crashing like if you just fully rear ended a truck. It doesn't have that natural driving feeling even old GTA games used to have, let alone IV. You can't customize your own cars, not even change their color, which is a big bummer. But what you can do in terms of customization is buying eccentric stuff for the mansion, something at first I thought it was a pretty useless thing but it has grown on me. Sometimes I still suck at the minigame of the wheel you do when dealing drugs, trying to bribe cops or negotiating the interest rates at the bank, but it adds some challenge and suspense to the situations.

 

It's a good game, and for those who play on PC I recommend joining the Scarface Remastered Project, which does a lot of visual and technical improvements so it's better played on modern PCs.

[Zello]

44 minutes ago, Nico said:

I remember my brother playing this on PS2 many years ago. Back then I looked at it, and visually it seemed inferior to even the 3D era GTA games, so I never gave it a chance. Until recently when the youtuber TheProfessional did a playthrough of it.

I remember when I first played it back around 2006-07 or so. To me it actually looked better than the 3D GTA games but the controls were complicated and I didn't really know how to play it.

[Bigglo145]

4 hours ago, Zello said:

I remember when I first played it back around 2006-07 or so. To me it actually looked better than the 3D GTA games but the controls were complicated and I didn't really know how to play it.

Yeah, scarface looked way better than vice city to me. 

[Nico]

Keep in mind I never played Vice City on PS2, only PC. When I first saw Scarface being played by my brother on PS2, I only had in mind how the PC version of Vice City looked like, and to me it didn't seem to look better than VC on PC. Perhaps vanilla Scarface on PS2 does look a bit better than vanilla VC on PS2 (fair since it's four years newer) but nowadays I play all of these games with mods.