GTA LCS Special Vehicle Guide

[RationalPsycho]

Just wow. Obtaining it is one thing, but making a video of it AND keeping a straight attitude the entire time?! You are one step above me. If I were you, I would lose my f*cking mind.

 

I did it pretty much the same way, with only two differences:

 

1. It's best to rush to the pier as fast as you can, so you have time to steal a Speeder, and position it so that it faces the direction of the Maverick, to minimize the risk of vanishing. Personally, I used a Bickle '76, which I highly recommend.

2. It's not necessary to push this thing completely out of the water. As long as its rotors are constantly spinning AND you can enter it WITHOUT drowning, you're good to go.

 

NOTE FOR PSP USERS: I told Lennart - via PM, now I'm saying it in public. As mentioned a few times before, I'm noticing that vehicles I take out of the garage don't vanish, unless I destroy them, or save and reload. If this is the case for you, you can leave a Heavy/WP/DP bike (preferably the Freeway or Angel, since they are the heaviest, and can be obtained ANYTIME, in case something goes wrong) in Harwood, to GREATLY aid you with the final Trial. Personally, I didn't think of this at the time I obtained the helicopter, so I did it the hard way, just like zazaza691. If your precious bike stays there, then the difficulty will be cut down by a third, and it should be possible to make it in one go, assuming "Taxi Driver" doesn't crash.

Edited March 28, 2017 by RationalPsycho

[Yerdna555]

I don't understand - what should I do to prevent the game from crashing when a taxi station is launched? What am I doing wrong? About 30 times I started this mission at different times of the cutscene. Zazaza this moment made absolutely no problem.

Something tells me that this can only be done on the European version on PSP, and on the USA version it is impossible

Edited March 28, 2017 by Yerdna555

[Lennart -]

I have the same problem. I never made it on one ppsspp (pc version) because the game crashed. But when I started using ppsspp (on my phone), it worked. I don't know why this happens. I guess you could try changing your settings... as far as I know, taxi driver is the only thing that works so there is nothing else we can do.

[Lethal Vaccine]

PPSSPP, Emulators. NONE of it is the real deal. We've been over this in now THREE GUIDES and almost dating back a FULL YEAR at this point. People testing something on Emulator. It works. Go to try it on a REAL PSP or REAL PS2, game crashes, problems occur. It's also why I am in no hurry to add anything into the Guide. Most times I will be explaining and saying...."If you're lucky, hopefully "this" will happen."

 

One rule of thumb. If something is not tested and confirmed on PSP, PS2, or Mobile. It's still unobtainable.

 

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention when I took the Photos of the 5th Save, that, despite the DP/FP/PP/TP/EC Cheetah is kinda "stuck" on top of the DP/FP/PP/TP/EC Deimos SP, I CAN get it out of the Garage. When it comes to the Portland Garage, BEFORE I make my final backup of the Save, I reload and take the 4 Vehicles out of the Portland Garage just to see if I can. If I can, then it's all done. If not, I'd have to reload an older Save and make a new plan of how to store them. Not ALL Vehicles can be stored in that horrible Garage. Only certain Vehicles fit and can get them out afterwards.

Edited March 29, 2017 by MetalMilitia89

[RationalPsycho]

 

I don't understand - what should I do to prevent the game from crashing when a taxi station is launched? What am I doing wrong?

 

Currently nothing. Seems completely hit-or-miss at this point. If you're playing on emulator, make a Save State on the pier where you park the Taxi, BEFORE starting the mission, with the "Bumps And Grinds" setup. If it fails, reload from there. The game seems to somehow determine whether it crashes or not from THE START of the mission, rather than the moment you trigger "Taxi Driver". I had the same problem; it always crashed, but that one time, it always worked.

 

I'm experiencing the same issue with "Bringing the House Down". Converting to AP/TP AND failing the mission is impossible for me, even if I'm using Police vehicles. It's one-time only, so I get to choose wisely.

Edited March 29, 2017 by RationalPsycho

[zazaza691]

I don't know guys. I don't have any problems with Maverick. It works EVERY time, so I can't help you. I tried on different saves and on different game versions.

[Lennart -]

What are your emulator settings?

[Lethal Vaccine]

Am I seriously going to be the ONLY ONE who's going to be obtaining ALL of these OM0 Vehicles...................With Bumps and Grinds passed already? Every Video I see, it's never passed, lol...

 

Has anyone even tried it with it passed yet and succeeded?

[zazaza691]

Am I seriously going to be the ONLY ONE who's going to be obtaining ALL of these OM0 Vehicles...................With Bumps and Grinds passed already? Every Video I see, it's never passed, lol...

 

Has anyone even tried it with it passed yet and succeeded?

For what reason? It's COMPLETELY the same, just more time consuming, because you can't press X. And I have a video where B&G passed.

[RationalPsycho]

What are your emulator settings?

 

Although I know little-to-nothing about technical stuff, to me, emulator settings don't make sense. Unless it has something to do with FPS or something. Maybe this affects where the game decides to spawn the closest fare when starting "Taxi Driver", and subsequently whether it crashes or not. Who knows, though.

 

Am I seriously going to be the ONLY ONE who's going to be obtaining ALL of these OM0 Vehicles...................With Bumps and Grinds passed already? Every Video I see, it's never passed, lol...

 

Has anyone even tried it with it passed yet and succeeded?

 

Me. Not yet completing it makes it easier to move forward. But there is a method on PSP, where you can look to the left or right, in a drive-by position, and accelerate forward. Can't look what's going on in front of you, but still possible. Don't know how-and-if this works on the PS2, though.

[Lennart -]

Am I seriously going to be the ONLY ONE who's going to be obtaining ALL of these OM0 Vehicles...................With Bumps and Grinds passed already? Every Video I see, it's never passed, lol...

 

Has anyone even tried it with it passed yet and succeeded?

[youtube=https://youtu.be/zO2tw6FM394]https://youtu.be/zO2tw6FM394

Its possible but its 5-20 times harder. Because you have to use the time with watching out or you waste a lot if playing time driving backwards. Thats the reason, I'ven't touched B&G on my starter save

For what reason? It's COMPLETELY the same, just more time consuming, because you can't press X. And I have a video where B&G passed.

Exactly, just a waste of time because you cant drive in a straight line since the drive-by function on ps2 doesnt work like the one on psp.

 

What are your emulator settings?

Although I know little-to-nothing about technical stuff, to me, emulator settings don't make sense. Unless it has something to do with FPS or something. Maybe this affects where the game decides to spawn the closest fare when starting "Taxi Driver", and subsequently whether it crashes or not. Who knows, though.

 

I think, the settings "hardware transform" have somthing to do with crash and pass. Maybe language settings but I doubt it. Edited March 29, 2017 by Lennart -

[RationalPsycho]

So, you can't move forward on PS2 after completing every course during the OM0 setup. Another boon for PSP!

 

Well, MAYBE language settings, German in particular (remember the censored versions?), do make a difference. Have you tried to change it to English, to see what happens?

[Lethal Vaccine]

Nice! An extra challenge. Will be the first to obtain ALL, not just one or a couple, Vehicles using Bumps and Grinds with all 10 passed...

 

At the end of the day, I don't even care that much. My main 7 100% Saves are always going to the alpha male and the dominant Saves over any OM0 sh*t so as long as those are done with and I get all 83 Special Vehicles I intended to get in the 7 Saves since I started in February, I am happy.

[Lennart -]

You can still drive forward but you look a drunk fool. Not being able to drive is only then a problem if you are chased.

May your main saves be alpha but om0 vehicles are f*cking impressive.

 

I always play on english and the pc ppsspp lcs version I use is exactly the same as the mobile ppsspp lcs version i use.

[Lethal Vaccine]

Considering I just hold L2 and R2 when driving in LCS so NO TRAFFIC SPAWNS in front of me, I've practically mastered driving in this game using the Radar alone, without even looking forward. Know where all the curves in the roads are so I know where to turn, even without looking. Just like the Method in SA PC to flick camera up and down to get rid of traffic in front of you. Well, in LCS for PS2, I know how to do it where NO traffic whatsoever spawns and gets in my way when driving by just holding L2 and R2 and looking behind me, while I drive forward. I've BEEN driving without even looking for so long now in this game. I keep saying LCS PS2 Traffic sucks ass, so I found a way to get rid of it. The moment I let go of L2 and R2? Tons of traffic appears in front of me. Keep holding L2 and R2? Not a single Vehicle exists in traffic, basically...

 

So when I finish my OM0 Saves and come to the conclusion they are useless and NOT impressive, I will just let them wither away and move onto VCS, lol...

 

I find it more impressive to do the game to 100% x7. Minimum Stats x7. 12 Special Vehicles in each Save x7. Has anyone even finished ONE Save like this or am I going to finish 7 of them before someone finishes 1? If you haven't noticed, every single week I finish a Save. Each Save is in the 18 Hours for the Total Playing Time except the 1st Save. It doesn't take very long, so why not do a bunch of Saves and get everything that exists?

[RationalPsycho]

I obtained most, if not all vehicles that require "Bumps And Grinds", with all 10 courses passed, even before I learned about the drive-by method. It's nothing to be proud of, though.

 

How do you define an "alpha male" Save, anyway? What does this even mean?

[Lethal Vaccine]

Alpha Male just means dominant. Same way I look at Platforms. Mobile is my "side" secondary, just for fun, not taken serious Platform, with PS2/3 being my dominant where all my work is way better than anything I have done and will do on Mobile Platforms. Just like Slot 1? The most prized Save, followed by weaker and weaker Saves as I progress. By Save File 7? Hardly anything worthy of obtaining, but still 11 Vehicles left (EC Speeder and 10 DP/TP Vehicles), however, still getting them and that Save also will be 113 Attempts, which is my lowest and actually the absolute lowest you can get in LCS, anyways. If you have 100% and passed everything required for 100% without failing, you get 113.

 

But yeah, I am not into playing casually. I go big or I don't go at all. I also never said it was easier, or harder. That's what "others" are saying. Regardless if something is easier or harder is irrelevant. Just like getting those H/DP/PP Vehicles with OM0 or the Race Vehicles. Something easier, right? But Idc what is easier or harder. Bumps and Grinds 10 Courses are passed in my Starter Save. So the way I am going to obtain all of these is like that, with them passed.

 

There is a reason why I do OM0 Saves LAST, and AFTER all my "main" Saves are taken care of. It's just for fun, and I don't take those Vehicles and Methods very seriously. Just like I don't take Mobile very seriously. How come I only have ONE Save for LCS on Mobile and NINE for PS2? Oh yeah, cuz I don't care about Mobile. One Save is good enough for a Platform I could careless about.

Edited March 29, 2017 by MetalMilitia89

[Yerdna555]

We discussed a little with zazaza about the effect on the PPSSPP crash during the activation of the taxi mission during obtaining of AP / Black Maverick. The most amazing thing is that the real PSP does not crash in most cases.

Then I tried his PPSSPP's settings file. And at me the emulator has stopped to crash.I think the reason is found. When I opened the emulator with its settings file - I had a smaller screen resolution. Where is this item in the settings - I did not find it. Perhaps these numbers are stored only in the settings file. Btw, this explains why our comrade Lennart did not experience any problems with mobile PPSSPP.

I propose to make sure of this hypothesis definitively for all those who have experienced this problem. Here is the configuration file ppsspp / memstick / PSP / SYSTEM / ppsspp.ini, which zazaza sent me:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw5lXGhGFqtZc2NneVZnS2N1RG8/view?usp=sharing

EDIT: i did an auto-scale, but the problems do not arise. Who wants to - check all the other settings items. Perhaps you will find the reason.

Edited March 30, 2017 by Yerdna555

[Lethal Vaccine]

I hope it works on PS2, as well. Definitely one I will obtain when I get to doing my 2 OM0 Saves in the coming weeks. Tomorrow, I will begin work on my 6th Save File and obtaining the first of twelve Special Vehicles for the Save, the DP/FP/PP/TP/EC Chrome Red Stallion with Red Roof from Grease Sucho. It's the LAST of the Grease Sucho 3 Race Vehicles I need and it's also the LAST of the Race Vehicles I need, in general, as all Side Mission Race Vehicles were already obtained in the previous, 5th Save File. All Race CARS are slightly easier than Race BIKES. Those Bikes are a nightmare trying to push into the water compared to Cars. I've obtained those FP/PP/EC Bikes twice in the past, but it was never worth it, hence why this time through, I was happy to just get them in EC form, without FP and PP together. Besides, I can make them PP anytime, if I wanted. I can even make the Sanchez DP/PP/EC, using Scrapyard Challenge, since you can convert the EC Sanchez to DP/EC, then DP/PP/EC. I'm happy with them being just EC, though.

 

Anyone can check the Mission "A Date with Death." The Forelli Exsess Vehicles that chase after you inside the Stretch, are those Heavy Forelli Exsess'? They seem to cause a lot of damage to the Stretch and smash it out of the way very easily, so I am wondering if those may be Heavy. I doubt it, but if they are, would be cool to get a H/DP/PP Forelli Exsess. Much better than an AP/PP Forelli Exsess from Rough Justice.

 

Anyways, 60 Special Vehicles Obtained. 23 More to Go! Then about 24 OM0 Vehicles. Over 100 Special Vehicles I will have when LCS is all said and done with and ready to move onto VCS to obtain about 40-ish Special Vehicles.

Edited March 31, 2017 by MetalMilitia89

[McLarenMercedes MP4-15]

EDIT: Btw, can anyone NOT obtain the BP/EP/FP Speeder from Shoot the Messenger? I heard that on some different Versions of the game that when you snipe the driver of the BP/EP/FP Speeder and pass the Mission, you are teleported away from the area. If that is the case, the BP/EP/FP Speeder is actually unobtainable for those people with "those" Versions. I heard you're teleported away on Mobile, but I could be wrong as I never tested how it works myself when I did my Save about a year ago on Mobile. Luckily on my PS2 Version this is NOT the case and I can get it, no Post-Mission Cutscene, thankfully.

On mobile, Toni is teleported to the pier, unfortunately. My version has a post - mission cutscene.

Doesn't matter - I didn't plan to obtain it in my save.

Edited March 31, 2017 by Chun Yu Chan

[Lethal Vaccine]

Strange how even Mobile does that since it's similar to the PS2 Port. I guess it's also a good thing this is the case on Mobile and not PS2, though. I want it on PS2, my dominant Platform. I don't want it on Mobile, my secondary, just for fun, not taken serious Platform. I only did LCS once on Mobile, with 12 Special Vehicles of course, but I don't recall being teleported away when doing Shoot the Messenger. My way of doing this Mission is never to get into the Speeder and chase after that guy. I just stand on the Pier with a Laser Scope Sniper Rifle and shoot him dead with one shot, Mission is passed instantly, and Toni still on the Pier, not teleported away. I believe it happened like this on Mobile for me, too, iOS but also 1.0. I did LCS the first couple of weeks it was released on iOS back in December 2015. Maybe it's patched after all this time and updates, though.

[McLarenMercedes MP4-15]

Strange how even Mobile does that since it's similar to the PS2 Port. I guess it's also a good thing this is the case on Mobile and not PS2, though. I want it on PS2, my dominant Platform. I don't want it on Mobile, my secondary, just for fun, not taken serious Platform. I only did LCS once on Mobile, with 12 Special Vehicles of course, but I don't recall being teleported away when doing Shoot the Messenger. My way of doing this Mission is never to get into the Speeder and chase after that guy. I just stand on the Pier with a Laser Scope Sniper Rifle and shoot him dead with one shot, Mission is passed instantly, and Toni still on the Pier, not teleported away. I believe it happened like this on Mobile for me, too, iOS but also 1.0. I did LCS the first couple of weeks it was released on iOS back in December 2015. Maybe it's patched after all this time and updates, though.

I got in the Speeder provided to me and drive - by him. Probably because that I got in my Speeder?

By the way, me and Lennart (Vanhela) are working on a GTA LCS Mobile starter save.

[Lethal Vaccine]

Well, that's how I obtain the BP/EP/FP Speeder. But just to PASS the Mission, where I don't care about the BP/EP/FP Speeder, I just stand on the Pier and snipe the Driver from afar and the Mission is passed immediately and Toni remains standing on the Pier. I COULD get into the Speeder provided to me at THAT TIME and drive it over to the BP/EP/FP Speeder sitting there, but I don't usually do this since I've seen the Speeder provided to me vanish so many times. So when I OBTAIN that actual BP/EP/FP Speeder, I get in the Speeder provided to Toni and slowly creep up on the BP/EP/FP Speeder and when I see the Red Arrow on top of it, I stop, get out the Sniper, kill the Driver, Mission Passed, then do a boat to boat jump and beach the BP/EP/FP Speeder near the Stadium and push it back to the Garage. The entire process takes all of 10-15 minutes, so it's worth it for the only Proofed Boat in LCS...

 

It's still strange that you are teleported away on Mobile and some PSP Versions. On my PS2 Version, whether I am on the Pier or in the Speeder provided to Toni, once the Mission is passed, that's it. I am not teleported away from the area on either of the occasions.

 

Yeah, I finished my (sh*tty) Mobile Starter Save in January 2016, so about 15 months ago did I finish it. I posted about it HERE with Photos of course. Just like later on in that Topic when I finished it to 100%, I also posted Photos and showing the 12 Special Vehicles I obtained. I do in fact play Mobile (III, VC, SA, LCS, and CW), but I only take CW seriously since it's the ONLY way to play CW since I don't own DS, PSP, or Vita, thus Mobile is my ONLY option to play CW, thus I take it serious on Mobile. But when it comes to III, VC, SA, and LCS, since I own all of these for PS2, I don't really care much for my Mobile Saves. I still do the Starter Saves and Saves to 100% with Minimum Stats and Special Vehicles, except that the Stats aren't AS GOOD as what I can do on PS2 due to horrible Touch Screen Controls not being as responsive as a Controller, which always works for me. I also hate the tiny screen and the battery life, constant crashes, etc, etc. PS2/3, just "works" for me, thus I do all my good work on that whereas Mobile is just for fun on the side. The Stats on PS2 that I have totally crush what I have done on Mobile. But I don't need my Mobile Saves to be EXACTLY identical to PS2 and I also don't need so many Save Files on Mobile, either. One is good enough, since I don't care much about it in the end.

 

EDIT: I wonder if the PP Conversion with Firefighter would work on Mobile. I have a feeling this would only work for PS2 and PSP. Granted, PP on Mobile isn't even needed since after an hour of driving around, you may only see ONE Cop throw out Spike Strips. No Cops with Spikes spawn on Mobile for some reason, yet a plethora of them on PS2 and probably PSP, as well...

Edited March 31, 2017 by MetalMilitia89

[McLarenMercedes MP4-15]

Well, that's how I obtain the BP/EP/FP Speeder. But just to PASS the Mission, where I don't care about the BP/EP/FP Speeder, I just stand on the Pier and snipe the Driver from afar and the Mission is passed immediately and Toni remains standing on the Pier. I COULD get into the Speeder provided to me at THAT TIME and drive it over to the BP/EP/FP Speeder sitting there, but I don't usually do this since I've seen the Speeder provided to me vanish so many times. So when I OBTAIN that actual BP/EP/FP Speeder, I get in the Speeder provided to Toni and slowly creep up on the BP/EP/FP Speeder and when I see the Red Arrow on top of it, I stop, get out the Sniper, kill the Driver, Mission Passed, then do a boat to boat jump and beach the BP/EP/FP Speeder near the Stadium and push it back to the Garage. The entire process takes all of 10-15 minutes, so it's worth it for the only Proofed Boat in LCS...

 

It's still strange that you are teleported away on Mobile and some PSP Versions. On my PS2 Version, whether I am on the Pier or in the Speeder provided to Toni, once the Mission is passed, that's it. I am not teleported away from the area on either of the occasions.

 

Yeah, I finished my (sh*tty) Mobile Starter Save in January 2016, so about 15 months ago did I finish it. I posted about it HERE with Photos of course. Just like later on in that Topic when I finished it to 100%, I also posted Photos and showing the 12 Special Vehicles I obtained. I do in fact play Mobile (III, VC, SA, LCS, and CW), but I only take CW seriously since it's the ONLY way to play CW since I don't own DS, PSP, or Vita, thus Mobile is my ONLY option to play CW, thus I take it serious on Mobile. But when it comes to III, VC, SA, and LCS, since I own all of these for PS2, I don't really care much for my Mobile Saves. I still do the Starter Saves and Saves to 100% with Minimum Stats and Special Vehicles, except that the Stats aren't AS GOOD as what I can do on PS2 due to horrible Touch Screen Controls not being as responsive as a Controller, which always works for me. I also hate the tiny screen and the battery life, constant crashes, etc, etc. PS2/3, just "works" for me, thus I do all my good work on that whereas Mobile is just for fun on the side. The Stats on PS2 that I have totally crush what I have done on Mobile. But I don't need my Mobile Saves to be EXACTLY identical to PS2 and I also don't need so many Save Files on Mobile, either. One is good enough, since I don't care much about it in the end.

 

EDIT: I wonder if the PP Conversion with Firefighter would work on Mobile. I have a feeling this would only work for PS2 and PSP. Granted, PP on Mobile isn't even needed since after an hour of driving around, you may only see ONE Cop throw out Spike Strips. No Cops with Spikes spawn on Mobile for some reason, yet a plethora of them on PS2 and probably PSP, as well...

FireFighter PP conversion doesn't work on mobile...

Through I don't think 6 more mission attempts for "The Shoreside Redemption" aren't so bad, if HALF of the vehicles collect takes additional mission attempt I'll get these stats too.

I don't plan to obtain any special boats in LCS. They are too annoying and inconveniet to drive, so doesn't matter to me.

Btw do you play SLES 54135 version or SLES 54136? I've heard that they behaves different about the FP UC Maverick.

[Fooking Rekt]

it's worth it for the only Proofed Boat in LCS...

Wrong, again. There are 2 AP Speeders and a H one in the final mission.

[Lennart -]

 

it's worth it for the only Proofed Boat in LCS...

Wrong, again. There are 2 AP Speeders and a H one in the final mission.Wrong again, its H/EP.

[Lethal Vaccine]

Perhaps if he actually played LCS or knew anything about it, he'd realize it's a PSP Exclusive, thus it's irrelevant to anyone playing on PS2 and Mobile to even mention it. Notice, though. Adds nothing to the Topic, just that I am wrong (even though I am not in terms of the Version I AM PLAYING). How did he get unbanned again? It's only a matter of time until he does something dumb and is banned for like the 25th time.

 

AP Speeders. Yeah, cuz DP registers on Boats in LCS. Nice! They are BP/EP/FP in the end, and Shoot the Messenger doesn't use OM0 and can pass to get it. I wonder which Speeder Militia cares about?

 

SLES? This would be European. Mine is SLUS. I have the North American Gaming Region...

 

If you're playing Mobile, there is zero point to even convert Vehicles to PP. No Cops spawn and put Spike Strips down compared to how many they put down on PS2 and PSP. On PS2, for some reason, you can see literally 6 Cops on foot spawn in front of you, put down a Spike Strip each and if you weren't PP, all 4 Tires would be flat within a few minutes. It's not fun with all Tires popped, hence why PP is such an important Property. But I regret using 7 Mission Attempts for my Mobile Save for The Shoreside Redemption, since after 100% I wanted to mess around with a H/DP/PP Vehicle and noticed NO Cops spawned on foot to drop spike strips down in OVER AN HOUR OF DRIVING AROUND! Thus, no point to even make H/DP/PP Vehicles on Mobile and H/DP is good enough in the end. No Attempts and you're just as safe as if it were PP.

 

Yeah, I figured the Firefighter PP Conversion wouldn't work on Mobile since you can't hold anything. Touch Screen Controls are garbage. But if Mobile is the ONLY way to play, then you have to live with it. Just like I have to live with CW and only being able to play it on Mobile. Granted, I like it a lot and am used to it.

Edited April 1, 2017 by MetalMilitia89

[McLarenMercedes MP4-15]

If you're playing Mobile, there is zero point to even convert Vehicles to PP. No Cops spawn and put Spike Strips down compared to how many they put down on PS2 and PSP. On PS2, for some reason, you can see literally 6 Cops on foot spawn in front of you, put down a Spike Strip each and if you weren't PP, all 4 Tires would be flat within a few minutes. It's not fun with all Tires popped, hence why PP is such an important Property. But I regret using 7 Mission Attempts for my Mobile Save for The Shoreside Redemption, since after 100% I wanted to mess around with a H/DP/PP Vehicle and noticed NO Cops spawned on foot to drop spike strips down in OVER AN HOUR OF DRIVING AROUND! Thus, no point to even make H/DP/PP Vehicles on Mobile and H/DP is good enough in the end. No Attempts and you're just as safe as if it were PP.

Vehicles > Stats to me anytime.

Besides, really?

To me, at 4 stars, SWAT and Enforcers are everywhere, lots of cops are setting spike strips...In "Smash And Grab" and "How Wheels" I always pop all of the Kuruma and Banshee's tires, lol.

Yeah, I figured the Firefighter PP Conversion wouldn't work on Mobile since you can't hold anything. Touch Screen Controls are garbage. But if Mobile is the ONLY way to play, then you have to live with it. Just like I have to live with CW and only being able to play it on Mobile. Granted, I like it a lot and am used to it.

Just like the BP or AP conversion. Attach a controller or use a program which emulates real buttons. Edited April 1, 2017 by Chun Yu Chan

[Fooking Rekt]

Just because it's exclusive to one version of the game doesn't mean it's not existent.

[Lethal Vaccine]

Vehicles > Stats to me anytime

 

But you CAN do both, though. If you pick the right Vehicles that require no Failures and/or if you pick Side Mission Vehicles that once the Side Mission is passed, it stops adding Attempts, then you can get 12 Special Vehicles with damn near the MINIMUM for Attempts. The "old me" would of agreed with this, circa 2014-15, but not anymore, since I cater to BOTH SIDES and get all Special Vehicles, while ALSO maintaining Minimum Stats throughout. If you can DO BOTH, why not do both? It's possible, so I am doing it.

 

Now, I am not saying 113 Attempts you can get in all Save Files, but just a couple Attempts for Special Vehicles that require a Failure is ok. I have anywhere from 113 Attempts (7th Save) to 125 Attempts (1st Save). It always varies depending on which 12 Special Vehicles I get in each Save and which require Pass or Failure to obtain. Furthermore, for my 1st and 3rd Save Files ONLY I used The Shoreside Redemption to make PP Vehicles, thus Failing multiple times to convert each Vehicle I wanted to be PP. If I didn't? The 1st Save would be 118 Attempts and the 3rd Save would be 116, and not 119 like it is. But the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Save all have the lowest Attempts and didn't need the Mission anymore to make PP Vehicles and I just use Firefighter or the Mission ONCE and PASS while I make one PP Vehicle.

 

Anyways, I have the DP/FP/PP/TP/EC Chrome Red Stallion with Red Roof, DP/EC White Pony, and Unique/DP/EC Chrome Red Campaign Rumpo so far in my 6th Save. Up next is the EC Speeder with Mission Failure from More Deadly Than the Male. I am saving the final EC Speeder which can PASS to obtain it from More Deadly Than the Male for the 7th Save, thus 113 Attempts for the 7th Save like I mentioned a few times.

 

By the end of today, I hope to be 90% and in SSV. Should be finished in the next few days, however I will be needing 5 H/DP/PP Vehicles from 9MM Mayhem/Scooter Shooter in this Save and those are a nightmare to obtain, especially the Cartel Cruiser and Patriot. But after this Save is done, the final Save is easy since just an EC Speeder which comes up after 90% of the game is done and then once 100% is reached, I obtain 10 DP/TP Vehicles from Firefighter and call it a day. 83 total Special Vehicles obtained, and ALL that exist for the PS2 Version without counting PSP Exclusives and OM0 Exclusives.

Edited April 2, 2017 by MetalMilitia89