Why R* Nerfed Tanks but Not Jets

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

Child please, i read the whole thing.

All vehicles have a gun. Some have them mounted while others are handheld by the driver or passenger/s.

Tie passive to the mental stages. Once you're past a certain stage, you cant go passive. No matter what. That would last until your "cooled" down to a certain stage. It would cut down on all those red and pink dots abusing passive.

The vehicles dont all have guns...the players have Edited March 25, 2016 by goldadderXD

[shadowoperative]

 

Child please, i read the whole thing.

All vehicles have a gun. Some have them mounted while others are handheld by the driver or passenger/s.

Tie passive to the mental stages. Once you're past a certain stage, you cant go passive. No matter what. That would last until your "cooled" down to a certain stage. It would cut down on all those red and pink dots abusing passive.

The vehicles dont all have funs...the players have

Most of the players here have no fun and are no fun.

[grand theft spaghetti]

you cant defend yourself from a troll abusing their lag to yo-yo a jet across the map spawn killing players. you cant even aim up to try to defend yourself when youre out of explosives. either nerf the jet or restore the tank to day one status.

 

and shadow, he might have a gun out, but i know your deadpool sig is really smelling his own farts. everyone loves their own brand.

Edited March 25, 2016 by grand theft spaghetti

[Razar]

 

 

For those of you who are so boss at taking down jets on foot...

 

Post those videos. And don't post videos of you shooting your friends down like that other fool did.

Target them with the Homing Launcher and then start shooting him/her with the Sniper Rifle while he is flying in circles: Either that Jet is going down (By the means of your Homing Launcher or your Sniper Rifle) or s/he is leaving the area, probably not coming back to you again. If s/he is actually coming back, repeat the process until s/he is dead. Is it really that hard?

 

Against a decent pilot it just doesn't work like that. Sure you might get the pilot away for a couple of minutes, but it's not as straight forward as you're making out lol.

 

Works for me 80% of the time.. So yes, it works (If you don't f*ck it up). Otherwise just get yourself an Hydra and, if you still fail, accept yourself as being worse than he is and change session.

Edited March 25, 2016 by TheIceWarrior

[Hunter]

 

 

 

For those of you who are so boss at taking down jets on foot...

 

Post those videos. And don't post videos of you shooting your friends down like that other fool did.

Target them with the Homing Launcher and then start shooting him/her with the Sniper Rifle while he is flying in circles: Either that Jet is going down (By the means of your Homing Launcher or your Sniper Rifle) or s/he is leaving the area, probably not coming back to you again. If s/he is actually coming back, repeat the process until s/he is dead. Is it really that hard?

 

Against a decent pilot it just doesn't work like that. Sure you might get the pilot away for a couple of minutes, but it's not as straight forward as you're making out lol.

 

Works for me 80% of the time.. So yes, it works (If you don't f*ck it up). Otherwise just get yourself an Hydra and, if you still fail, accept yourself as being worse than he is and change session.

 

Well to be fair, a good pilot's not going to get targeted by the homing launcher much at all in a jet. A good pilot will be a few thousand feet up, and then dive down straight over you where you can't aim.

[shadowoperative]

you cant defend yourself from a troll abusing their lag to yo-yo a jet across the map spawn killing players. you cant even aim up to try to defend yourself when youre out of explosives. either nerf the jet or restore the tank to day one status.

 

and shadow, he might have a gun out, but i know your deadpool sig is really smelling his own farts. everyone loves their own brand.

Wrong again.

[Hunter]

 

you cant defend yourself from a troll abusing their lag to yo-yo a jet across the map spawn killing players. you cant even aim up to try to defend yourself when youre out of explosives. either nerf the jet or restore the tank to day one status.

 

and shadow, he might have a gun out, but i know your deadpool sig is really smelling his own farts. everyone loves their own brand.

Wrong again.

 

He who denied it supplied it.

[MrForz]

I don't have that much trouble with jets, not enough to feel completly defenseless at least, but only the opponent dictates how the fight goes or simply leaves. I suppose a leave is a form of win.

 

My main source of trouble when dealing with jets when grounded is the police. The very moment I shoot I'm bum-rushed by shotgun wielding fatties yelling "INBRED DICKWAD!" because I'm defending myself against a death machine that levels the entire city.

Edited March 25, 2016 by MrForz

[Aether]

So for anyone still having problems with jets, meet my friend oAngrybird.

 

If you can't figure out the answer to your problems after this then I can't help you.

 

 

 

Edited March 25, 2016 by Tempest

[Hunter]

So for anyone still having problems with jets, meet my friend oAngrybird.

 

If you can't figure out the answer to your problems after this then I can't help you.

 

Good RPG shots, but that can be countered easily enough by attacking from a steep angle:

 

 

While the jet can shoot straight down, the ground player can't shoot straight up:

 

 

All of those could have been avoided.

[Tonguegirl]

So for anyone still having problems with jets, meet my friend oAngrybird.

 

If you can't figure out the answer to your problems after this then I can't help you.

 

 

 

 

Friends flying into each others RPG's, wake up.

Edited March 25, 2016 by Tonguegirl

[Aether]

 

So for anyone still having problems with jets, meet my friend oAngrybird.

 

If you can't figure out the answer to your problems after this then I can't help you.

 

Good RPG shots, but that can be countered easily enough by attacking from a steep angle:

 

 

While the jet can shoot straight down, the ground player can't shoot straight up:

 

 

All of those could have been avoided.

 

 

 

To remedy that, make a 180 degree turn(so now your back is facing the pilot) and fire off the rpg into the jets flight path. If you aimed well enough round will hit the pilot as he pulls up, as they eventually need to.

Edited March 25, 2016 by Tempest

[CrysisAverted]

You can aim the Revolver and Flare gun almost completely up which could land you a pretty cool kill

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To remedy that, make a 180 degree turn(so now your back is facing the pilot) and fire off the rpg into the jets flight path. If you aimed well enough round will hit the pilot as he pulls up, as they eventually need to.

 

That too can be remedied though:

 

Pull up backwards (by pushing the left stick up).

 

Or just get higher up and send missiles down, like this:

 

 

My point is that if a decent jet pilot decides he/she is going to needlessly pick on someone, there's practically nothing the player on the ground can do other than go in passive mode, or hole up somewhere and snipe for ages.

 

That's pretty lame in my opinion. Jets should give an advantage of course, but not to the extent that they ruin everything else.

Edited March 25, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[Eggobites90]

Even if players can technically counter the jet, the advantages the jet pilot has over someone on the ground (unlimited explosove rounds fired at an automatic rate, the ability to move quicker and vertically, the absence of immediately deadly police gunshots, etc.) are substantial enough to warrant legitimate criticism for being unfair and game experience damaging.

Edited March 25, 2016 by Eggobites90

[SaltyGTAFMember]

 

So for anyone still having problems with jets, meet my friend oAngrybird.

 

If you can't figure out the answer to your problems after this then I can't help you.

 

 

 

 

Friends flying into each others RPG's, wake up.

 

Most of these guys dont even know it.

[Hunter]

Even if players can technically counter the jet, the advantages the jet pilot has over someone on the ground (unlimited explosove rounds fired at an automatic rate, the ability to move quicker and vertically, the absence of immediately deadly police gunshots, etc.) are substantial enough to warrant legitimate criticism for being unfair and game experience damaging.

Well yeah, I mean, anything can be technically worked around.

 

Even Annihilators and handguns can technically get a jet - doesn't mean it's in any way a fair fight.

[speeddemon0322]

 

Even if players can technically counter the jet, the advantages the jet pilot has over someone on the ground (unlimited explosove rounds fired at an automatic rate, the ability to move quicker and vertically, the absence of immediately deadly police gunshots, etc.) are substantial enough to warrant legitimate criticism for being unfair and game experience damaging.

Well yeah, I mean, anything can be technically worked around.

 

Even Annihilators and handguns can technically get a jet - doesn't mean it's in any way a fair fight.

 

One thing that would help balance that thing immensely is adding a overheat function to that damn "death beam" nose gun of theirs, so that they could only fire in short bursts or risk a long cool down.

 

That thing is obscenely powerful, and if someone did that to the Hydra, I would not mind too much, it would mean that only the good pilots could cause as much havoc as a amateur pilot like me causes with that thing.

[speeddemon0322]

 

 

Just disable passive mode in vehicles with a gun on woud be nice for a start

That's stupid.

If so, they should disable passive in EVERY vehicle. I mean, you can shoot other players when you're in a car. Name a vehicle, it is or can be used for killing. All of 'em.

 

 

Those pussies would end up in there and leave us MEN to play the real way.

Cute. In fact, I'd call it adorable.

 

 

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Edit: double post... f*ck it. Didn't want to bother the staff with it... again

No he said vehicles with a gun. Don't reply until you read the whole thing.

 

Yeah, pretty much any vehicle with built in armaments should have passive disabled, when was the last time you got in a tank just to have a cruse around the block. The only reason you would call your tank or turreted insurgent out is to cause massive amounts of chaos and destruction. (The people who say they only use the hydra to get around the map would be fine as they can fly high enough to avoid most problems.)

[Hazel Mae]

I think we should just remove all weapons from the game. Tanks, turrets, jets, rpgs.. I'm all for Happy Land Simulator 2016. Maybe we can even get a "let's all hold hands" DLC.

How many times have you made this comment?

[Hunter]

By the way, that Rockstar buffed the tank in Rhino Hunt (where it only has to deal with dune buggies), well I take that as an admission of guilt that they made it too weak.

 

Not that it should be its old strength, but 3 RPGs is a little on the low side. Means those kamikaze cops ruin everything too.

[CarimboHanky]

 

So for anyone still having problems with jets, meet my friend oAngrybird.

 

If you can't figure out the answer to your problems after this then I can't help you.

 

Good RPG shots, but that can be countered easily enough by attacking from a steep angle:

 

 

While the jet can shoot straight down, the ground player can't shoot straight up:

 

 

All of those could have been avoided.

dont tell them secret hahaha

 

one of the first things my jet mentor told me was to never attack from low angles, always dive and break to either left or right, dont just pull up after the cannon pass

Edited March 25, 2016 by CarimboHanky

[Skeve613]

If more people knew how to properly fly jets, we'd see fewer jet griefers because more people would take to the skies to kill them then do currently... maybe.

[Aether]

I'm just trying to help out here by giving these people some advise.

 

Threads like this one come around all the time complaining about "griefers" but what people forget is that there is an entirely different breed of gta players that depend on the lazer/hydra. We don't always grief and punishing us because a certain minority causes trouble is just not cool.

 

Where were these threads when GtalV was popular? If you didn't pilot the buzzard or annihilator online in that game you were screwed?(not counting the small population of groundsmen who were capable of fighting on foot)

[Hunter]

 

Where were these threads when GtalV was popular? If you didn't pilot the buzzard or annihilator online in that game you were screwed?(not counting the small population of groundsmen who were capable of fighting on foot)

I don't really remember the armour on either of those being that tough. I'm sure they were tougher armour wise than they are now, but I don't think it was by a long way. Also, wasn't there an explosive sniper in those days?

 

At any rate, they still didn't just rely on dive bombing people. Helicopters are naturally more fair as long as dive bombing is a thing. They get down low where they're vulnerable to attacks, and they tend to stay low.

 

Also, the original non - explosive Annhilator was nothing much to worry about.

[ash-274]

Give the jets finite ammo for a while and see how that works out.

Perhaps the extra effort of ditching one jet and calling out another will deter the mouth-breathing griefers.

The HR has finite ammo (that players have to pay for), so balance it that way.

 

I don't experience douches in jets very often, but I know others do.

1000 rounds of explosive bullets and 14 missiles seems fair. After that, they're flying a hovering Besra. Skilled pilots could still get a lot of griefing (or decent air/air combat) done, and the half-assers would waste it quickly and either have to change planes or quit.

[shadowoperative]

Where were these threads when GtalV was popular? If you didn't pilot the buzzard or annihilator online in that game you were screwed?(not counting the small population of groundsmen who were capable of fighting on foot)

 

Depending on the pilot you could be. I knew some who could shoot you out of moving cars going down the highway at full speed. Or pop your tires and then it was easy for them. There was a weekly event I took part in where it was air vs ground.

 

Don't listen to those that never played IV.

 

I played IV freemode for 5 years. The good ones would circle you like a tornado even while you were moving and if you did manage to cause to them they would break formation, go land on a health pack and be back good as new in 20 seconds. They stayed out of range of all automatic weapons. You died in 2 bullets even to the extremities. Your options were rpg or sniper. Sniping took a miracle and the rpg in IV went 5 miles an hour and corkscrewed. A sloth could dodge it.

[Aether]

^ I WAS one of those pilots...

 

 

Oh the glory days.. i miss them. People on the ground actually grabbed their balls and put up a fight.

 

 

The assault rifle was also an option as well.

Edited March 26, 2016 by Tempest

[lll-H-I-M-lll]

I was a IV pilot as well the endless fun of skimming the ground with the blades sending players flying

[DangerZ0neX]

 

On the other hand, look at what happened to helicopters.

The homing launcher and jets are the only actual threat to helicopters in most cases, so I'm not entirely certain what point you're trying to make here. Regardless of what happened to helos in the past, that shouldn't prevent us from being able to enjoy the game currently and not having to stop to deal with some red tryhard in a jet repeatedly strafing the same section of street.an entire clip of a pistol welded by an AI is the biggest threat to a Savage.

 

Ironic for a helicopter based on one that was purposed to be bulletproof and very explosive-resistant.