Vagos underused

[Markhayzy]

I know GTAV isn't all gang related but the Vagos do not feature enough in the story or online for that matter. There are more hispanics than African Americans in modern day L.A and i wouldhave loved Rockstar to show that side of the city more. Cesar Vialpando bought so much to San Andreas and i would love to see some fleshed out hispanic characters in game.

I would personally love a SP experince as a member of the vagos living in the projects in East L.S, or even a new online contact with missions similar to what they did with Lamar.

[Piggsy pls]

They are featured heavily in Online, especially in the first Lowriders update. Rockstar saved a lot of the gang related stuff/activities for Online, unfortunately.

[Official General]

Totally agree OP.

 

Many people on here have been saying this since the game first came out, including myself.

[Gtaman_92]

They are actually featured more online.

[combustion]

They just appear in one story mission and one side mission in GTA V.

[Osho]

I'm really pissed about their treatment for the same and missing out on the gang wars, the return of the dangerous street gang presence of the classic SA. In its current state, doesn't feel right, nor even mods are able to reproduce that classic SA feel. I was so much looking forward to enjoy it again but because of the stupid decision we've to now switch online.

[chilleverest]

RS saved then for online, cha ching !

[kBlaise]

I'm actually glad that V is more about hipsters and Vinewood than gangs.

San Andreas was 110% about gang stuff. That was more than enough for me.

[Maibatsu545]

The game is sorely lacking in the gang activity department. Part of why V is such a huge letdown.

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

I'm actually glad that V is more about hipsters and Vinewood than gangs.

 

San Andreas was 110% about gang stuff. That was more than enough for me.

I do agree that gang stuff would get boring but even that are much better than hipsters. The triads, street gangs, bikers all felt very underused.

 

Now don't get me wrong, the leisure stuff is fine but it shouldn't be more important than crime.

[The Dedito Gae]

I'm actually glad that V is more about hipsters and Vinewood than gangs.

oh my.

[Official General]

The game is sorely lacking in the gang activity department. Part of why V is such a huge letdown.

Only God knows why Rockstar chose to neglect the most sought after feature in the game. I mean it's criminal not to include Hispanic gangs to play a part in V, the setting is based on LA for crying out loud, that alone warrants a major Hispanic gang involvement.

[ChiroVette]

I think that Rockstar may have made a brilliant decision glossing over the gangs in V. As much as I still love the gangs in San Andreas, I think that there is enough of them in that game. V focuses more on the three awesome protagonists, and Franklin is literally on his way out of the ghetto almost from go, thankfully. So since the gangs are not very prevalent in Fanklin's mind, they are not meant to be in ours either.

 

Several reasons why gangs are rightfully glossed over in V:

 

1. Franklin is in his 30's, as evidenced by Tonya's references to their teen years in the mid 1990's. So clearly Franklin has grown up and wants something better than the gang life.

 

2. This game is meant to focus on money, which it does very well, and heists as well as the interaction between Franklin and Michael and Trevor. This means that since the "gang life" is nothing more than background, even white noise, at this point in Franklin's life, that's how it rightfully plays out in V's awesome story.

 

3. Lester moves Franklin into Vinewood Hills very early in the game, which is further evidence that the whole gangs idea is meant to be on the waaaay back of the back burner.

 

4. The story in this game is meant to center more on Vinewood, Vinewood Hills, and the outlying areas in the fabulous map. This is NOT some Compton game, it has much more depth than that.

 

5. The whole LA gang scene is so "Nineties" as well as so been-there-done-that.

[Pink Pineapple]

Franklin should have been a Vago named Francisco who burglarizes mansions instead of living in one that was given to him for nothing with no sense of accomplishment.

[Maibatsu545]

 

The game is sorely lacking in the gang activity department. Part of why V is such a huge letdown.

Only God knows why Rockstar chose to neglect the most sought after feature in the game. I mean it's criminal not to include Hispanic gangs to play a part in V, the setting is based on LA for crying out loud, that alone warrants a major Hispanic gang involvement.Yeah, it's pretty pathetic. Worse still is how they used false advertisement in the trailers to make it seem like the gang stuff was deeper than it really was.

 

@Chirovette stopped reading at "Franklin is in his 30s" you really don't know what you're even talking about in your rush to defend V. Sad!

Edited March 25, 2016 by Maibatsu545

[Official General]

 

 

The game is sorely lacking in the gang activity department. Part of why V is such a huge letdown.

Only God knows why Rockstar chose to neglect the most sought after feature in the game. I mean it's criminal not to include Hispanic gangs to play a part in V, the setting is based on LA for crying out loud, that alone warrants a major Hispanic gang involvement.

Yeah, it's pretty pathetic. Worse still is how they used false advertisement in the trailers to make it seem like the gang stuff was deeper than it really was.

@Chirovette stopped reading at "Franklin is in his 30s" you really don't know what you're even talking about in your rush to defend V. Sad!

Yep I'm with you on that Maibatsu.

 

I stop listening to people who make excuses for very little gang stuff in V, once they start talking rubbish about gang culture being extinct and a thing of the 1990s. Like gang members suddenly stopped their activities in 2000, simply because it was a new day, a new dawn and a new era lol. Gangs are as relevant to the American criminal underworld as they have been since they've existed. GTA should always reflect this.

[PhillBellic]

OP, every Gang was heavily underutilised. It was a shame really.

[combustion]

The gang life isn't the theme of V. It has already been done in San Andreas. V focuses on money, the other side of Los Santos, Vinewood, movies, cheating housewives and those stuff. Gangs just serve as minor storyline arcs. This is why the urban area of the map is tiny, compared to the fancy neighbourhoods of Vinewood, while this was exactly opposite in San Andreas.

 

The Khangpae don't even make an appearance in the story of V, while they appear in plenty of Online missions. The Marubanta Grand only have a minor appearance in the Father/Son mission. The hippie gang don't exist in V free roam.. There are plenty of gangs which could have appeared in the story. V completely focused on the wrong thing, nobody cares about a movie-making protagonist. Even Trevor's story arc has more gang involvement than Franklin's.

[Piggsy pls]

^Also The Professionals are non-existent in SP, where as they have a huge presence Online.

[ChiroVette]

 

 

 

The game is sorely lacking in the gang activity department. Part of why V is such a huge letdown.

Only God knows why Rockstar chose to neglect the most sought after feature in the game. I mean it's criminal not to include Hispanic gangs to play a part in V, the setting is based on LA for crying out loud, that alone warrants a major Hispanic gang involvement.

Yeah, it's pretty pathetic. Worse still is how they used false advertisement in the trailers to make it seem like the gang stuff was deeper than it really was.

@Chirovette stopped reading at "Franklin is in his 30s" you really don't know what you're even talking about in your rush to defend V. Sad!

Yep I'm with you on that Maibatsu.

 

I stop listening to people who make excuses for very little gang stuff in V, once they start talking rubbish about gang culture being extinct and a thing of the 1990s. Like gang members suddenly stopped their activities in 2000, simply because it was a new day, a new dawn and a new era lol. Gangs are as relevant to the American criminal underworld as they have been since they've existed. GTA should always reflect this.

 

 

You are 100% wrong. There are no excuses necessary, because the lack of gang involvement is not a flaw, its a virtue. The improvements to V in the series need no justification, excuses, or validation. It is a profound evolution in the series.

 

Thankfully the gang stuff was toned down since we have all been there, done that, and even beat it to death in San Andreas. V is unequivocally and unapologetically its own game and doesn't need to "follow in any footsteps" of past GTA games.

 

You are obviously stuck in the past, which is fine if that's how you want to be, your choice. We still have San Andreas, which is still a great game. And obviously you have Snore, which isn't, but you enjoy anyway.

 

 

I'm actually glad that V is more about hipsters and Vinewood than gangs.

 

San Andreas was 110% about gang stuff. That was more than enough for me.

 

Exactly, 100%!

 

People need to move on from their closed-minded preconceptions of "what GTA is supposed to be" just because a particular theme was so prevalent in a previous game. Although, I will say this: If you are going to compare a GTA to another GTA and find flaw with V, at least San Andreas is such an amazing game that the comparisons are viable in some ways. I can kind of understand why some people will feel that V is lacking some things that San Andreas had. Its when people try to compare V to Snore and find it lacking that is so fundamentally laughable.

 

Another thing V will be remembered for is showing how piss poor Snore is, by contrast.

 

Edit: fixed some typos.

Edited March 25, 2016 by ChiroVette