it's so difficult to have a decent dogfight in this game

[The Wandering Hunter]

this is not about air vehicles vs ground in the slightest

 

who thinks dogfights would be massively improved if jet cannons did about 5% of their current damage against OTHER JETS

 

this would make dogfights much more interesting. it would also make them last longer and be more realistic (this game ignores bullet physics and travel time so a damage nerf would compensate for the incredible ease with which you can hit a supposedly supersonic jet from a supersonic jet)

[deadx23]

It is when ur da best

 

 

Somethingworldproblems

[IamCourtney]

Just one more reason to nerf the damn cannons to a more reasonable level.

[fear_the_nut70]

this is not about air vehicles vs ground in the slightest

 

who thinks dogfights would be massively improved if jet cannons did about 5% of their current damage against OTHER JETS

 

this would make dogfights much more interesting. it would also make them last longer and be more realistic (this game ignores bullet physics and travel time so a damage nerf would compensate for the incredible ease with which you can hit a supposedly supersonic jet from a supersonic jet)

 

Agree whole-heartedly. .

[Soran Is On]

just get rid of the explosive rounds.

[XxRPG_KINGxX]

When u dogfight a good pilot it takes a lot to kill the enemy, it would take like 5 minutes to get ONE kill, and it would ruin the DF community... I'm ok with the way it is now.

[fear_the_nut70]

Just one more reason to nerf the damn cannons to a more reasonable level.

I don't think you read OP's comments carefully: this wasn't an open invitation for the Jet Whiners Society to pipe up (and yes, that is what your comment means). We have had 3,212 threads infected by your kind. Just get a new box of Kleenex and tub of Ben and Jerry's and cry it out one good one.

Edited March 3, 2016 by fear_the_nut70

[Furry_Monkey]

By all means, but not to 5% as that would make them weaker than everything, and please look up the definition of the word "supersonic"

[dead goon]

I'm against dog fighting.

[Member's Only]

I'm against dog fighting.

This.

 

F*ck Michael Vick, huge piece of sh*t.

[Yukinoshita]

Sorry OP but no. Every time I try to dogfight it finishes in the same way: "They spin me right round baby right round". I've had enough of it

 

Edited March 3, 2016 by Yukinoshita

[Guest]

Get good.

 

Kill Jester.

 

Take his crown or crash and burn.

[nWo_Y2J_2015]

this is not about air vehicles vs ground in the slightest

 

who thinks dogfights would be massively improved if jet cannons did about 5% of their current damage against OTHER JETS

 

this would make dogfights much more interesting. it would also make them last longer and be more realistic (this game ignores bullet physics and travel time so a damage nerf would compensate for the incredible ease with which you can hit a supposedly supersonic jet from a supersonic jet)

No

 

No

[nWo_Y2J_2015]

 

Just one more reason to nerf the damn cannons to a more reasonable level.

I don't think you read OP's comments carefully: this wasn't an open invitation for the Jet Whiners Society to pipe up (and yes, that is what your comment means). We have had 3,212 threads infected by your kind. Just get a new box of Kleenex and tub of Ben and Jerry's and cry it out one good one.

 

Correct, this isn't about Jet griefing, BUT jets are fine as is and it would be stupid if they got nerfed.

 

When u dogfight a good pilot it takes a lot to kill the enemy, it would take like 5 minutes to get ONE kill, and it would ruin the DF community... I'm ok with the way it is now.

THIS^

 

just get rid of the explosive rounds.

Nah

Edited March 3, 2016 by nWo_Y2J_2015

[x_TestsubjecT_x]

You could have bumped many other threads in a new direction with this rather than assuming another jet thread would be useful.

[DrRockso26]

The jets need the mini guns like on the Valkyrie and turrited limo.

Edited March 3, 2016 by DrRockso26

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

Im not sure if im realy against a huge nerf of the actual canon.....it is fun to have...even if it was just for killing NPC'S

[Fish_head]

The most fun I have dogfighting is winding up hydras with a besra until they take the bait and then taking them low and into built up areas until they crash. Should be able to add hydra stickers to the besras fuselage for kills taken in this way.

 

 

Before I get flamed I fly hydras too

[The Wandering Hunter]

By all means, but not to 5% as that would make them weaker than everything, and please look up the definition of the word "supersonic"

irl the hydra is not supersonic I know, the laser probably is. but the game would crash at those speeds so it can't be done so they go only slightly faster than a max speed car

[IAKSOTOT]

I wish they'd put rickety old machine guns on the dusters. Ideally this could be balanced by assigning accuracy levels to the homing missiles that were based on heat signatures, making internal combustions engines harder to lock on to than afterburners, so the biplanes would have a sort of low level strafing advantage for ground targets and each other.

 

Just breaking up all this Jet tension with some light hearted WWI action.

[nargris]

I wish they'd put rickety old machine guns on the dusters. Ideally this could be balanced by assigning accuracy levels to the homing missiles that were based on heat signatures, making internal combustions engines harder to lock on to than afterburners, so the biplanes would have a sort of low level strafing advantage for ground targets and each other.

 

Just breaking up all this Jet tension with some light hearted WWI action.

This and bringing back the rustler would be cool as well.

[CrysisAverted]

Have dogfight on last gen

Get behind player

Win dogfight

Get ejected from Jet by modder

Get assraped

 

Have dogfight on next gen

Get behind player

They go passive

Stalemate

 

GG R* Quality PVP

[IamCourtney]

 

 

 

 

 

Just one more reason to nerf the damn cannons to a more reasonable level.

I don't think you read OP's comments carefully: this wasn't an open invitation for the Jet Whiners Society to pipe up (and yes, that is what your comment means). We have had 3,212 threads infected by your kind. Just get a new box of Kleenex and tub of Ben and Jerry's and cry it out one good one.

 

[CaptianBackwoods]

It would also help if the jets didn't fly like bricks.

[lol232]

It is when ur da best

 

 

Somethingworldproblems

When you're da best it's boring as sh*t, I'd rather fight against good players.

[deadx23]

 

It is when ur da best

 

 

Somethingworldproblems

When you're da best it's boring as sh*t, I'd rather fight against good players.oh I didn't finish "at going on passive mode" (I don't pvp llo) I love to fly though Edited March 4, 2016 by deadx23

[Masochron]

I'm just brainstorming here, but I think it might have something to do with the fact that there aren't any dogs online...

Edited March 4, 2016 by Masochron

[Skeve613]

Hitting other aircraft with the guns should be harder, but in a multi-role game such as GTA V that would cause other gameplay impacts which would have to be accounted for. If I could create a jet deathmatch which disables radar and other HUD items though, I totally would (even if no one wanted to play without all sorts of assisted functions turned on).

 

Seeing other jets on the radar or being told when someone is off the radar is a huge counter to sneak attacks for those paying attention.

 

Besides, most real dogfights lasted something like 45 seconds on average, and most dead pilots never saw who killed them because they died from ambushes rather than in actual dogfights. So, this game does have at least two real world parallels.

[FrugalDangerMan]

By all means, but not to 5% as that would make them weaker than everything, and please look up the definition of the word "supersonic"

Ok....I did. Not what I was expecting....

 

[UnknownXXVII]

Instead of bothering with jets, I'd like them to add a P51 Mustang with regular ballistic weapons. No explosive rounds. Me and my friend would dogfight all the time in saints row 2 with the Wolverine.