yoshi626262 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 since I got a buzzard. I might need a more fire power aircraft. Tell me what you think about them. You know like pros cons. And I will grind for one. I know not a yaht. That is to much .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kspowell Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The Savage is a heavy helicopter armed with missiles and a cannon similar to those found on jets. With the missiles, the savage can shoot them consecutively without any pauses. It also has 4 seats where a copilot can use the missiles. The Hydra is also equipped with missiles and a cannon. Unlike the savage, you must wait a short period after shooting two missiles becore firing them again. The hydra has a hover mode which makes it easier to target enemies. Another pro of the hydra is that it can travel the map faster than the savage. My advice, Buy the savage if you play with friends or like having teammates roll with you. But the hydra if you are more independent. Both are pretty good. Jackie_R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeephouser Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 If you've got a buzzard, get the hydra. The buzzard is already better than the savage. JC Hammer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi626262 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 If you've got a buzzard, get the hydra. The buzzard is already better than the savage. True with the better. I just hate how the npcs have perfect aim. I'm always dieing or loseing a lot of health. Then again best with 3 other people. One can aim the rockets the other 2 can use rockets and such that have better aim then me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 If you've got a buzzard, get the hydra. The buzzard is already better than the savage. In terms of combat the Savage is better as its machine guns fire explosive rounds and can fire its missiles as long as the pilot wants with no pause, the Buzzard only has the Savage beat in speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi626262 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 If you've got a buzzard, get the hydra. The buzzard is already better than the savage. In terms of combat the Savage is better as its machine guns fire explosive rounds and can fire its missiles as long as the pilot wants with no pause, the Buzzard only has the Savage beat in speed.But the savage is a huge target. Bad armor. Hard to land in small places. But the explosive cannon is good. But useless on them steal drugs missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) If you've got a buzzard, get the hydra. The buzzard is already better than the savage. In terms of combat the Savage is better as its machine guns fire explosive rounds and can fire its missiles as long as the pilot wants with no pause, the Buzzard only has the Savage beat in speed. But the savage is a huge target. Bad armor. Hard to land in small places. But the explosive cannon is good. But useless on them steal drugs missions. Buzzard is smaller yes but does not stop things like homing launchers now does it? The savage is also better because with the way its cockpit is designed the pilot is less exposed to enemy attacks from ground forces, I use it all the time for missions like Mixed Up with Coke, High Priority Case, Judging the Jury and many others without incident. Addtiionally the machine guns on the buzzard are terribly weak while if anything comes into Contact with the machine gun rounds of the Savage are quickly dispatched. Not even Insurgents could withstand continuous fire from a Savage's machine gun fire for very long. Lets be honest here in PvE missions NPCs are not aiming for your helicopter they're aiming for you, its pilot, above all else. Something of which is easier with the buzzard cause its cockpit has its pilot very exposed. Edited February 28, 2016 by Ghoffman9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeve613 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 If you've got a buzzard, get the hydra. The buzzard is already better than the savage. In terms of combat the Savage is better as its machine guns fire explosive rounds and can fire its missiles as long as the pilot wants with no pause, the Buzzard only has the Savage beat in speed. But the savage is a huge target. Bad armor. Hard to land in small places. But the explosive cannon is good. But useless on them steal drugs missions. Buzzard is smaller yes but does not stop things like homing launchers now does it? The savage is also better because with the way its cockpit is designed the pilot is less exposed to enemy attacks from ground forces, I use it all the time for missions like Mixed Up with Coke, High Priority Case, Judging the Jury and many others without incident. Addtiionally the machine guns on the buzzard are terribly weak while if anything comes into Contact with the machine gun rounds of the Savage are quickly dispatched. Not even Insurgents could withstand continuous fire from a Savage's machine gun fire for very long. Lets be honest here in PvE missions NPCs are not aiming for your helicopter they're aiming for you, its pilot, above all else. Something of which is easier with the buzzard cause its cockpit has its pilot very exposed. This is a very good point. While the Savage does have rather piddling armor, I have also noticed the helicopter itself tends to absorb most incoming gunfire because of how it's pilot position is designed, whereas the Buzzard puts the pilot in an exposed perspex egg that offers no protection. Thus, if you do get shot up a bunch in the Savage, you will usually survive and be able to fly away to get a new chopper, whereas in the Buzzard you may very well be shot right out of the chopper. The Hydra.... you're more likely to run into a telephone pole and commit suicide than anything else. The Savage is good if you want to stand off and salvo fire missiles at range using it's no-cooldown rockets, and has a cannon for fighting up close when need be. The Hydra is good for spraying enemies down with the cannon (tap the rudder button to quickly move the nose back and forth) because it is much more stable than a helicopter, although also less agile in hover mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 If you've got a buzzard, get the hydra. The buzzard is already better than the savage. In terms of combat the Savage is better as its machine guns fire explosive rounds and can fire its missiles as long as the pilot wants with no pause, the Buzzard only has the Savage beat in speed. But the savage is a huge target. Bad armor. Hard to land in small places. But the explosive cannon is good. But useless on them steal drugs missions. Buzzard is smaller yes but does not stop things like homing launchers now does it? The savage is also better because with the way its cockpit is designed the pilot is less exposed to enemy attacks from ground forces, I use it all the time for missions like Mixed Up with Coke, High Priority Case, Judging the Jury and many others without incident. Addtiionally the machine guns on the buzzard are terribly weak while if anything comes into Contact with the machine gun rounds of the Savage are quickly dispatched. Not even Insurgents could withstand continuous fire from a Savage's machine gun fire for very long. Lets be honest here in PvE missions NPCs are not aiming for your helicopter they're aiming for you, its pilot, above all else. Something of which is easier with the buzzard cause its cockpit has its pilot very exposed. This is a very good point. While the Savage does have rather piddling armor, I have also noticed the helicopter itself tends to absorb most incoming gunfire because of how it's pilot position is designed, whereas the Buzzard puts the pilot in an exposed perspex egg that offers no protection. Thus, if you do get shot up a bunch in the Savage, you will usually survive and be able to fly away to get a new chopper, whereas in the Buzzard you may very well be shot right out of the chopper. The Hydra.... you're more likely to run into a telephone pole and commit suicide than anything else. The Savage is good if you want to stand off and salvo fire missiles at range using it's no-cooldown rockets, and has a cannon for fighting up close when need be. The Hydra is good for spraying enemies down with the cannon (tap the rudder button to quickly move the nose back and forth) because it is much more stable than a helicopter, although also less agile in hover mode. Plus considering how much lethal the Savage is you would not spend much time getting shot at to begin with if you have any sort of flying experience in this game, and I am strictly talking about Player vs NPC combat here. So it not having much armor does not matter if you give your foes little time to shoot at you to begin with. Its especially lethal if you switch it up between missiles and machine guns when one weapon is more effective than the other for the current situation. Cause unlike the Buzzard, both Machine guns and Missiles can prove to be effective cause the Savage's machine gun does not shoot bee bees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxHonda Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 You need both depending on what u using if for Savage if not good flyer but if good flyer Hydra is unbeatable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi626262 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 Don't forget vip with it. I can spawn it near me so thats a plus. I might have to go with the hydra. Dang no super cars but buying the most expensive things but for yahts and that gold plane. And heli that carbon one as well as? The hydra can spawn on heli pads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhp11 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Savage is useless in free roam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocelot Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Savage for missions, Hydra for freeroam. Short answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Hammer Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 If you've got a buzzard, get the hydra. The buzzard is already better than the savage. ^ THIS The Savage is a death trap, I never use mine It can fire missiles faster which is kinda useless in missions, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faceplant8 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 What do you plan on using either of them for that you couldn't do with your buzzard? Each of them have some advantages and disadvantages over the other, but they all serve essentially the same purpose. I don't think you're going to find a mission that you could accomplish with either the savage or the hydra that you couldn't accomplish just as easily with the buzzard, so why spend all that money on something that pretty much duplicates what you already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DentureDynamite Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) I have all three; if I could, am half-tempted to sell my Hydra. The Savage is handy for missions like The Los Santos Connection (unleashing a boatload of rockets). The Buzzard is handy for overall freeroam, VIP, and also holds its own in missions (although the slower rocket firing does get annoying at times). It's very much like the super car situation in GTAO. There are only so many strengths and abilities R* can "dole out" among them all...the more that come out, the more generic/weaker those strengths get in an effort to "spread them out" (e.g. the Entity XF's traction was amazing when it first came out--you could almost drive up near-vertical surfaces. Now it's as generic and slides around like most any super car). Ever wonder why the armor on the Buzzard and Savage is so weak? My guess is R* is saving the serious armor for another attack helicopter release in the future; but as more come out, they too will suffer the same fate of "watered down abilities". Edited March 1, 2016 by DentureDynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi626262 Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 I have all three; if I could, am half-tempted to sell my Hydra. The Savage is handy for missions like The Los Santos Connection (unleashing a boatload of rockets). The Buzzard is handy for overall freeroam, VIP, and also holds its own in missions (although the slower rocket firing does get annoying at times). It's very much like the super car situation in GTAO. There are only so many strengths and abilities R* can "dole out" among them all...the more that come out, the more generic/weaker those strengths get in an effort to "spread them out" (e.g. the Entity XF's traction was amazing when it first came out--you could almost drive up near-vertical surfaces. Now it's as generic and slides around like most any super car). Ever wonder why the armor on the Buzzard and Savage is so weak? My guess is R* is saving the serious armor for another attack helicopter release in the future; but as more come out, they too will suffer the same fate of "watered down abilities". The armor thing is on the cargobob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeephouser Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I should have qualified my statement. In free roam, the Buzzard is much superior to the Savage. Savage is almost worthless in free roam. Easy to avoid the HL in the Buzzard. In the Savage, you're likely to get blasted with a quickness. I don't play missions, so I can't speak to the effectiveness of either in those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedrunkestpeasant Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) Savage useless in free-roam? No. Everything can be useful as long as you know how to utilize it with any given situation. For example: Savages for insurgent drivers on free-roam also for tank users(you can spam them with rockets while out of range of their cannons). Hydra works best(for me at least) in dog fighting situations. Buzzards for the quick spawn during VIPS. There's more examples I can throw out there, and I'm sure some of you have your own that I haven't even considered but yeah, "Every tool for its job". Edited March 3, 2016 by thedrunkestpeasant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxated Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The Buzzard is handy for overall freeroam, VIP, and also holds its own in missions (although the slower rocket firing does get annoying at times). Ahh, I remember the old days on TBOGT where you could shoot both rockets and cannons on the buzzard. When I first played online on there, I was wondering WTF is going on until I realized it was a helicopter doing all the ruckus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeephouser Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Savage useless in free-roam? No. Everything can be useful as long as you know how to utilize it with any given situation. For example: Savages for insurgent drivers on free-roam also for tank users(you can spam them with rockets while out of range of their cannons). Hydra works best(for me at least) in dog fighting situations. Buzzards for the quick spawn during VIPS. There's more examples I can throw out there, and I'm sure some of you have your own that I haven't even considered but yeah, "Every tool for its job". To be fair, I said almost useless. It can do those things, but is super vulnerable to the HL and other combat aircraft. I don't think I've ever lost one on one in a Buzzard against a Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedrunkestpeasant Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 When it comes to chopper vs chopper then that is up in the air as far as player experience and skill. I mostly mentioned using it against ground vehicles in my examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDree Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 If you still undecided, The Savage (alongside Buzzard & the Blackhawk) are 25% off this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi626262 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 If you still undecided, The Savage (alongside Buzzard & the Blackhawk) are 25% off this week I bought the hydra. So what about the savage or that other heli where only friends can use guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi626262 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 If you still undecided, The Savage (alongside Buzzard & the Blackhawk) are 25% off this week The one with only the mech gun is a waste of money XD more then a buzzard If you still undecided, The Savage (alongside Buzzard & the Blackhawk) are 25% off this week I own a buzzard already. But if I own it is any other heli even worth buying? I mean like the savage or whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDree Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 If you already own a Buzzard, then you are golden .... unless of course you want to diversify & expand your fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantomspirit Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Savage,many more uses for it in missions etc,however useless in free roam due to missile launcher.Hydra better for free roam,nothing else really.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi626262 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 If you already own a Buzzard, then you are golden .... unless of course you want to diversify & expand your fleet. I just find it werid that the savage is based of a heli that can take rockets. Can't even take 1 and still be in air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDree Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 If you already own a Buzzard, then you are golden .... unless of course you want to diversify & expand your fleet. I just find it werid that the savage is based of a heli that can take rockets. Can't even take 1 and still be in air.Uh well, gotta balance it somehow. Can't have it launch a continuous barrage of rockets, fire explosive rounds & be rocket resistant at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi626262 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 If you already own a Buzzard, then you are golden .... unless of course you want to diversify & expand your fleet. I just find it werid that the savage is based of a heli that can take rockets. Can't even take 1 and still be in air. Uh well, gotta balance it somehow. Can't have it launch a continuous barrage of rockets, fire explosive rounds & be rocket resistant at the same time. True that. But even more people are using the lock on rpg it's half off and so is its ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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