Anyone else disappointed how they handled the GTA IV characters?

[shadowoperative]

My list of Snore characters I want to be finished off in SP DLC or VI (in order of preference):

 

1. Stubbs

2. Yokel

3. Yusuf

4. Roman (one more time)

5. Brian

6. Brucie

1. Niko

2. Roman

3. Brucie

4. Yusuf

5. Lil Jacob

[DangerZ0neX]

Let me get this straight:-

 

It's not nice for IV fans to discuss what they were disappointed with about V and attacking them is a-okay, but it is alright for you guys to piss on GTA IV just for lulz on someone's thread who SPECIFICALLY SAID "no IV vs V war"?

 

I get that some bit of the IV fans are being whiners, but holy sh*t you guys are massive hypocrites.

Edited February 27, 2016 by DangerZ0neX

[Sonnу]

 

My list of Snore characters I want to be finished off in SP DLC or VI (in order of preference):

 

1. Stubbs

2. Yokel

3. Yusuf

4. Roman (one more time)

5. Brian

6. Brucie

1. Niko

2. Roman

3. Brucie

4. Yusuf

5. Lil Jacob

 

Nah, LJ is cool. I would be really glad if he will be one of three protagonists in VI.

[Journey_95]

 

I just expected more considering how they handled the 3D Era in this regard.

Nah, I'm glad that each returning character only played a minor role, it should always be like that. I want rather new characters getting in the spotlight than the ones we already had to put up with in the last game. Johnny, Terry and Clay were killed, and I didn't care much for it. Those who loved TLaD are going to be upset about it obviously, but I don't really care. ULP and Karen weren't wasted, they just got minor roles, that's all.

 

Packie was IMO the best returning character. Making him appear in a random event which would later make him available as a crew member was a pretty clever idea. I really liked how he talked about the heist in Liberty City in the Paleto Score mission. That was a nice throwback to IV.

 

Fair enough. I guess I just wanted bigger roles for them, like it was back in the 3D Era.

Packie could have been part of the main story in some way etc. and not just a random event (not even a real mission) for an example.

 

And considering how important the whole goverment nonsense was ULP and Karen could have been involved more.

 

I'm not a fan of forced cameo's (like I really didn't want Johnny and the lost here even if they were treated better, it makes no sense considering Blaine County is AoD territory) either but I think there was more potential with some of these characters.

My list of Snore characters I want to be finished off in SP DLC or VI (in order of preference):

 

1. Stubbs

2. Yokel

3. Yusuf

4. Roman (one more time)

5. Brian

6. Brucie

 

Edited February 27, 2016 by Journey_95

[shadowoperative]

 

 

My list of Snore characters I want to be finished off in SP DLC or VI (in order of preference):

 

1. Stubbs

2. Yokel

3. Yusuf

4. Roman (one more time)

5. Brian

6. Brucie

1. Niko

2. Roman

3. Brucie

4. Yusuf

5. Lil Jacob

 

Nah, LJ is cool. I would be really glad if he will be one of three protagonists in VI.

 

 

He was cool at first then he started to annoy me. Don't argue with me ya bumbaclot!

[Sonnу]

 

 

 

My list of Snore characters I want to be finished off in SP DLC or VI (in order of preference):

 

1. Stubbs

2. Yokel

3. Yusuf

4. Roman (one more time)

5. Brian

6. Brucie

1. Niko

2. Roman

3. Brucie

4. Yusuf

5. Lil Jacob

 

Nah, LJ is cool. I would be really glad if he will be one of three protagonists in VI.

 

 

He was cool at first then he started to annoy me. Don't argue with me ya bumbaclot!

 

I and I like him anyway!

[Badman_]

Well I think Johnny is a very good protagonist. He lives for today, don't care about money and is honest with himself. His only mistake was falling in love with Ashley... that girl is the source of all his problems.

[Big_Smiley]

Well I think Johnny is a very good protagonist. He lives for today, don't care about money and is honest with himself. His only mistake was falling in love with Ashley... that girl is the source of all his problems.

She indeed was a pain back in tlad

[DaWiesel]

Packie could have been part of the main story in some way etc. and not just a random event (not even a real mission) for an example.

 

And considering how important the whole goverment nonsense was ULP and Karen could have been involved more.

 

I'm not a fan of forced cameo's (like I really didn't want Johnny and the lost here even if they were treated better, it makes no sense considering Blaine County is AoD territory) either but I think there was more potential with some of these characters.

Packie is part of the story if you use him in the heists. ULP and Karen aren't part of the FIB so it makes sense that they only had minor appearances.

 

Blaine County was AoD territory, not anymore since the Lost took over. We don't know how big the AoD were in Blaine County so I don't see how it's not possible for the Lost getting rid of the AoD in five years. CJ managed to take over all Ballas and Vagos territories alone, and that under a year.

[ChiroVette]

 

My list of Snore characters I want to be finished off in SP DLC or VI (in order of preference):

 

1. Stubbs

2. Yokel

3. Yusuf

4. Roman (one more time)

5. Brian

6. Brucie

1. Niko

2. Roman

3. Brucie

4. Yusuf

5. Lil Jacob

 

 

I agree with both of these lists!

 

Especially Niko. I hope they bring him into either a future GTA or even the DLC for V I am maintaining a waning hope will happen. I have a great idea of how I would like to see Niko meet his end, as a cameo character, but to stay on topic, I will leave that for one of the other threads where future material speculation will be more appropriate than this topic.

[theGTAking101]

What's the point of bringing back these characters if you're just gonna turn them into a joke and give them a stupid death? Johnny wanted nothing to to with drugs or Ashley in 2008, but now in 2013 he's suddenly addicted to both of them. WTF. It also makes no sense for The Lost to even be in SA. If anything it should be the A.O.D. there.

 

I didn't mind Packie or Karen, at least they didn't ruin their characters.

 

There was no point in bringing in the U.L. Paper Contact if they were just gonna have him killed, just replace him with some random agent and let him live peacefully in LC.

[Journey_95]

What's the point of bringing back these characters if you're just gonna turn them into a joke and give them a stupid death? Johnny wanted nothing to to with drugs or Ashley in 2008, but now in 2013 he's suddenly addicted to both of them. WTF. It also makes no sense for The Lost to even be in SA. If anything it should be the A.O.D. there.

 

I didn't mind Packie or Karen, at least they didn't ruin their characters.

 

There was no point in bringing in the U.L. Paper Contact if they were just gonna have him killed, just replace him with some random agent and let him live peacefully in LC.

Exactly my problem with it. Of course IV haters loved it but they really handled it badly.

 

And we know they can do better (see the 3D Era), thats why its so disappointing. All the returning characters were treated well and given justice.

 

But with IV they were just turned into jokes and just wasted (why even get Karen back for the few seconds we saw her?)

[DangerZ0neX]

Seriously, why was the ULP Contact killed over no reason? It doesn't evolve their story, it just makes their progress stop for nothing, I understand Karen a and everything but it just irked me when it came to ULPC

[Journey_95]

Let me get this straight:-

 

It's not nice for IV fans to discuss what they were disappointed with about V and attacking them is a-okay, but it is alright for you guys to piss on GTA IV just for lulz on someone's thread who SPECIFICALLY SAID "no IV vs V war"?

 

I get that some bit of the IV fans are being whiners, but holy sh*t you guys are massive hypocrites.

V fans like Sonny and shadowoperative like to bait a lot, its pretty childish. I mean I'm no fan of GTA V but you don't see me (and others who dislike it) going around here and calling it (and some of its characters) some names and trying to bait people instead of actually discussing things.

[SmileyBandito]

Seriously, why was the ULP Contact killed over no reason? It doesn't evolve their story, it just makes their progress stop for nothing, I understand Karen a and everything but it just irked me when it came to ULPC

Wasn't his death dependent on the player? I don't think he died in the cutscene.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Apart from the The Lost/Johnny being a missed opportunity to become secondary antagonists instead of being randomly pissed on for no reason I didn't in general have a problem with the character cameos.

 

I remember the first time bumping into Packie I wasn't quite sure it was him, but it was cool how he was talking about Three Leaf Clover on the way to the Paleto Bay bank score.

[D9fred95]

 

Let me get this straight:-

 

It's not nice for IV fans to discuss what they were disappointed with about V and attacking them is a-okay, but it is alright for you guys to piss on GTA IV just for lulz on someone's thread who SPECIFICALLY SAID "no IV vs V war"?

 

I get that some bit of the IV fans are being whiners, but holy sh*t you guys are massive hypocrites.

V fans like Sonny and shadowoperative like to bait a lot, its pretty childish. I mean I'm no fan of GTA V but you don't see me (and others who dislike it) going around here and calling it (and some of its characters) some names and trying to bait people instead of actually discussing things.

 

Fully agree. I'm well aware that sometimes IV fans can make the odd V joke, but V fanboys tend to go one step beyond with IV. What ever happened to 'taking the high road' and not stooping to their level?

[UshaB]

 

1. Johnny shouldn't of been in V to begin with. His story after the events of TLAD could of gone either way, going somewhere else to rebuild the Lost Chapter HQ or going in that drug addicted downfall, but we didn't need to see any of that. But, as he was in the game, he could of been the first anatgonist for Trevor to pass. A big build up leading to his death.

 

Karen was treated pretty well to be honest.

 

I feel like Packie should of been introduced another way. Robbing a store doesn't seem like him. That cutscene where Lester is talking about some, "Eastern-European" guy, Lester could also say something like, "Although there is this other guy, he lives in Vinewood Hills ('cos he b rich with all dat moneyz) pulled of that big heist in Liberty City" (creates mystery for the players of who it could be with 90% believing it would be Niko)

 

ULP, like theGTAking101 said, replace him with some random agent.

 

There are others like Marnie and some celebrities, but meh.

 

[DangerZ0neX]

 

Seriously, why was the ULP Contact killed over no reason? It doesn't evolve their story, it just makes their progress stop for nothing, I understand Karen a and everything but it just irked me when it came to ULPC

Wasn't his death dependent on the player? I don't think he died in the cutscene.He gets killed by the FIB team anyway, I never shot at him and I keep myself busy with the other teams throughout my 3 playthroughs, yet he was always there as a bullet-filled corpse on the floor even if I didn't shoot in his direction.

[The Dedito Gae]

Why anyone cares about the united paper liberty contact?

He was just some g-man who was squeezing Niko, f*ck him.

[UshaB]

His death is determinant. I always killed the other guys around him and as he shot at me I just ran away.

 

He was just some g-man who was squeezing Niko, f*ck him.

 

He kidnapped Darko for Niko B.

[DangerZ0neX]

When he said "Just like the old country" in Serbian to Niko, in which he replied also in Serbian "Just like it" with this look of surprise and temper at the same time, I felt a chill from this scene and respected the charisma of ULPC

Edited February 28, 2016 by DangerZ0neX

[Pedinhuh]

 

 

Let me get this straight:-

 

It's not nice for IV fans to discuss what they were disappointed with about V and attacking them is a-okay, but it is alright for you guys to piss on GTA IV just for lulz on someone's thread who SPECIFICALLY SAID "no IV vs V war"?

 

I get that some bit of the IV fans are being whiners, but holy sh*t you guys are massive hypocrites.

V fans like Sonny and shadowoperative like to bait a lot, its pretty childish. I mean I'm no fan of GTA V but you don't see me (and others who dislike it) going around here and calling it (and some of its characters) some names and trying to bait people instead of actually discussing things.

 

Fully agree. I'm well aware that sometimes IV fans can make the odd V joke, but V fanboys tend to go one step beyond with IV. What ever happened to 'taking the high road' and not stooping to their level?Too much critical thinking and common sense, which is what a lot of people from this section is severely lacking(I won't say names, if you think you fit the bill then that's not my problem).

 

I try to be reasonable and take the high road myself sometimes, by just thinking "Nah, just another bait which will lead into pointless arguement", but the amount of baiting around here makes this almost impossible.

 

Also, just take a look at IV section sometime, things there are incredibly peaceful comparing to here.

Edited February 28, 2016 by pedinhuh

[Algonquin Assassin]

Speaking of the UL Paper contact am I the only who feels he looks younger than his appearance in GTA IV?

[Cheatz/Trickz]

I remember the first time bumping into Packie I wasn't quite sure it was him, but it was cool how he was talking about Three Leaf Clover on the way to the Paleto Bank score.

Same with me. Didn't even realize who it was at first, then when his partner told him to go back to LC, mentioned a bank job and called him an "Irish pri*k", Packie's voice just suddenly became familiar. It was quite jarring actually.

[Journey_95]

When he said "Just like the old country" in Serbian to Niko, in which he replied also Serbian "Just like it" with this look of surprise and temper at the same time, I felt a chill from this scene and respected the charisma of ULPC

Agreed I also liked how he responded when Niko asked if he was FIB: "Do I look homosexual? Do you think I care about the size of your Johnson?"

Considering the jokes Steve Haines and Dave Norton were...he was right lol

[Pedinhuh]

Why anyone cares about the united paper liberty contact?

He was just some g-man who was squeezing Niko, f*ck him.

"Squeezing him" by:

 

-Paying him for all the jobs he does for them;

 

-Extradicting the man Niko chased for 10 years out of another country, and bringing him to LC as a retribution for the work Niko has done;

 

-Cleared Niko's criminal records with a blank slate, or atleast that's what his dialogues implies;

 

And then there's his bit of dark comedy and deadpan remarks, specially regarding those who work for the FIB("Do I look like a homosexual?").

 

Out of all the bosses that Niko had in IV, he was one of the most sympathetic.

Edited February 28, 2016 by pedinhuh

[The Dedito Gae]

Considering the jokes Steve Haines and Dave Norton were...he was right lol

C'mon there, Dave is cool.

[PhillBellic]

I strongly felt, and I still do feel, that there was absolutely no point in bringing any of them back for V.

[Shadowfennekin]

Johnny was completely out of character, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they wrote his death scene before finishing TLAD's story.

 

Didn't even blink when ULPC died.

 

I still like Michelle.

 

Packie was still Packie. Loved his reference to Four Leaf Clover and confirmation Derrick died at some point

 

And I like that they made Marnie a cult member. That actually seems like it's not something they pulled out of their ass to bring another character back. Plus without her there, I probably couldn't stand playing the Epsilon missions

 

And Brucie seems cool, shame his appearance in SP got cut but at least he's moved on to bigger things in the world. Being the face of the steroids that gave him funny balls

 

Johnny's return was the only one I didn't like. Could have brought back the Lost to be Antagonists or maybe even allies to TPI and have the AoD be the bikers Trevor kills