Should the homing launcher have improved speed and accuracy against fi

[Mattoropael]

 

 

 

Yes it would rebalance things in favour of ground players, but since online was released its been the other way round so ground players can legitmately have a couple of years with things in their favour to make things fair, and then after those couple of years they could work out an actual fairly balanced game.

 

 

Thanks for reaffirming my belief that this is a "VENGEANCE" cry babies thread similar to extremist "equality" groups instead of legitimate game balance concerns. I'll write this thread off as Unsavable.

 

Kifflom.

 

 

Its not my thread, but when you start crying about the HL and not conceding that the jet is way OP and then claim other people are crybabies for responding to your sobbing I always get a good chuckle.

 

All your posts suggest that you dont want ground players to have a decent defense against OP jets

 

 

Ah, I see, still ignoring the fact that I support a jet cannon RoF nerf or that I support a conditional HL tracking buff.

 

Anything not an "I win" button is not enough to you, I fully understand. We have nothing to discuss.

[badnews]

 

 

 

 

Yes it would rebalance things in favour of ground players, but since online was released its been the other way round so ground players can legitmately have a couple of years with things in their favour to make things fair, and then after those couple of years they could work out an actual fairly balanced game.

 

 

Thanks for reaffirming my belief that this is a "VENGEANCE" cry babies thread similar to extremist "equality" groups instead of legitimate game balance concerns. I'll write this thread off as Unsavable.

 

Kifflom.

 

 

Its not my thread, but when you start crying about the HL and not conceding that the jet is way OP and then claim other people are crybabies for responding to your sobbing I always get a good chuckle.

 

All your posts suggest that you dont want ground players to have a decent defense against OP jets

 

 

Ah, I see, still ignoring the fact that I support a jet cannon RoF nerf or that I support a conditional HL tracking buff.

 

Anything not an "I win" button is not enough to you, I fully understand. We have nothing to discuss.

 

 

Sorry mate I missed where you said you wanted jet cannon nerfed, conditional tracking buff, I completely agree with that.

[The Wandering Hunter]

 

we have an anti jet weapon that works already

it's called the heavy sniper

although I'm all for this change if we also give the autocannon an infinite range and Km wide blast radius

to balance it out, remove one missile

Making the jet smoke and limp away to another jet spawn, a proces that can literally be done in less than 20 seconds in some circumstances, hardly makes it an anti-jet weapon.

 

Unless you were going for mild inconvenience.

I'm a jet griefer

the heavy sniper is a moderate annoyance, the hl is a mild annoyance

Pegasus is a huge annoyance

 

what would actually fix it is a Pegasus cool down on certain things in public lobbies

[Mattoropael]

 

 

we have an anti jet weapon that works already

it's called the heavy sniper

although I'm all for this change if we also give the autocannon an infinite range and Km wide blast radius

to balance it out, remove one missile

Making the jet smoke and limp away to another jet spawn, a proces that can literally be done in less than 20 seconds in some circumstances, hardly makes it an anti-jet weapon.

 

Unless you were going for mild inconvenience.

I'm a jet griefer

the heavy sniper is a moderate annoyance, the hl is a mild annoyance

Pegasus is a huge annoyance

 

what would actually fix it is a Pegasus cool down on certain things in public lobbies

 

 

Agreeable. It would make the heavy sniper attrition mean something beyond the mild annoyance of having to change jets. (They'd have to suck it and wait... or limp all the way to Zancudo and get a Lazer)

 

The cooldown would have to start on the destruction of your armed vehicle though or it would be meaningless in most cases.

Edited February 25, 2016 by Mattoropael

[shadowoperative]

 

 

 

we have an anti jet weapon that works already

it's called the heavy sniper

although I'm all for this change if we also give the autocannon an infinite range and Km wide blast radius

to balance it out, remove one missile

Making the jet smoke and limp away to another jet spawn, a proces that can literally be done in less than 20 seconds in some circumstances, hardly makes it an anti-jet weapon.

 

Unless you were going for mild inconvenience.

I'm a jet griefer

the heavy sniper is a moderate annoyance, the hl is a mild annoyance

Pegasus is a huge annoyance

 

what would actually fix it is a Pegasus cool down on certain things in public lobbies

 

Agreeable. It would make the heavy sniper attrition mean something beyond the mild annoyance of having to change jets. (They'd have to suck it and wait... or limp all the way to Zancudo and get a Lazer)

 

The cooldown would have to start on the destruction of your armed vehicle though or it would be meaningless in most cases.

I vote for 30 minutes.

[badnews]

 

 

 

 

we have an anti jet weapon that works already

it's called the heavy sniper

although I'm all for this change if we also give the autocannon an infinite range and Km wide blast radius

to balance it out, remove one missile

Making the jet smoke and limp away to another jet spawn, a proces that can literally be done in less than 20 seconds in some circumstances, hardly makes it an anti-jet weapon.

 

Unless you were going for mild inconvenience.

I'm a jet griefer

the heavy sniper is a moderate annoyance, the hl is a mild annoyance

Pegasus is a huge annoyance

 

what would actually fix it is a Pegasus cool down on certain things in public lobbies

 

Agreeable. It would make the heavy sniper attrition mean something beyond the mild annoyance of having to change jets. (They'd have to suck it and wait... or limp all the way to Zancudo and get a Lazer)

 

The cooldown would have to start on the destruction of your armed vehicle though or it would be meaningless in most cases.

I vote for 30 minutes.

 

 

Yeah 30 minutes sounds fair, that is a good compromise all round because the jet pussies can still go and steal one.

[The Wandering Hunter]

 

 

 

we have an anti jet weapon that works already

it's called the heavy sniper

although I'm all for this change if we also give the autocannon an infinite range and Km wide blast radius

to balance it out, remove one missile

Making the jet smoke and limp away to another jet spawn, a proces that can literally be done in less than 20 seconds in some circumstances, hardly makes it an anti-jet weapon.

 

Unless you were going for mild inconvenience.

I'm a jet griefer

the heavy sniper is a moderate annoyance, the hl is a mild annoyance

Pegasus is a huge annoyance

 

what would actually fix it is a Pegasus cool down on certain things in public lobbies

 

Agreeable. It would make the heavy sniper attrition mean something beyond the mild annoyance of having to change jets. (They'd have to suck it and wait... or limp all the way to Zancudo and get a Lazer)

 

The cooldown would have to start on the destruction of your armed vehicle though or it would be meaningless in most cases.

to be fair the laser is harder to deal with and id rather deal with a hydra

[IamCourtney]

 

Yes it would rebalance things in favour of ground players, but since online was released its been the other way round so ground players can legitmately have a couple of years with things in their favour to make things fair, and then after those couple of years they could work out an actual fairly balanced game.

lol well I suppose that is technically a form of balance buuuuuuut its gotta be the worst one possible...

[Shneb]

Ugh this game has enough cooldowns. What if you f*ck up your jet just doing sightseer or a mission? Maybe a long cooldown that starts when the jet is deployed? That way the people that it affects more are the people more likely to get their jet shot at.

[Mattoropael]

 

 

 

 

we have an anti jet weapon that works already

it's called the heavy sniper

although I'm all for this change if we also give the autocannon an infinite range and Km wide blast radius

to balance it out, remove one missile

Making the jet smoke and limp away to another jet spawn, a proces that can literally be done in less than 20 seconds in some circumstances, hardly makes it an anti-jet weapon.

 

Unless you were going for mild inconvenience.

I'm a jet griefer

the heavy sniper is a moderate annoyance, the hl is a mild annoyance

Pegasus is a huge annoyance

 

what would actually fix it is a Pegasus cool down on certain things in public lobbies

 

Agreeable. It would make the heavy sniper attrition mean something beyond the mild annoyance of having to change jets. (They'd have to suck it and wait... or limp all the way to Zancudo and get a Lazer)

 

The cooldown would have to start on the destruction of your armed vehicle though or it would be meaningless in most cases.

I vote for 30 minutes.

 

 

You have to account for the availability of Lazers from Zancudo. A 30-minute cooldown (significantly longer than the easy Lazer pass called "Cops Turn Blind Eye") is just going to make people take Lazers more often.

 

Something inconvenient like 10 minutes is more likely to make people actually wait it out instead of driving to Zancudo.

Edited February 25, 2016 by Mattoropael

[badnews]

Ugh this game has enough cooldowns. What if you f*ck up your jet just doing sightseer or a mission? Maybe a long cooldown that starts when the jet is deployed? That way the people that it affects more are the people more likely to get their jet shot at.

 

Then it will encourage you to become a better pilot and crash less so its perfect.

 

 

 

 

 

we have an anti jet weapon that works already

it's called the heavy sniper

although I'm all for this change if we also give the autocannon an infinite range and Km wide blast radius

to balance it out, remove one missile

Making the jet smoke and limp away to another jet spawn, a proces that can literally be done in less than 20 seconds in some circumstances, hardly makes it an anti-jet weapon.

 

Unless you were going for mild inconvenience.

I'm a jet griefer

the heavy sniper is a moderate annoyance, the hl is a mild annoyance

Pegasus is a huge annoyance

 

what would actually fix it is a Pegasus cool down on certain things in public lobbies

 

Agreeable. It would make the heavy sniper attrition mean something beyond the mild annoyance of having to change jets. (They'd have to suck it and wait... or limp all the way to Zancudo and get a Lazer)

 

The cooldown would have to start on the destruction of your armed vehicle though or it would be meaningless in most cases.

I vote for 30 minutes.

 

 

You have to account for the availability of Lazers from Zancudo. A 30-minute cooldown (significantly longer than the easy Lazer pass called "Cops Turn Blind Eye") is just going to make people take Lazers more often.

 

Something inconvenient like 10 minutes is more likely to make people actually wait it out instead of driving to Zancudo.

 

 

Yeah, perhaps they should not let Cops Turn A Blind Eye work at Zancudo and then it wouldnt be so easy to get a new one.

[shadowoperative]

I agree to all of because anything would help.

[Shneb]

 

Ugh this game has enough cooldowns. What if you f*ck up your jet just doing sightseer or a mission? Maybe a long cooldown that starts when the jet is deployed? That way the people that it affects more are the people more likely to get their jet shot at.

 

Then it will encourage you to become a better pilot and crash less so its perfect.

 

 

 

 

 

we have an anti jet weapon that works already

it's called the heavy sniper

although I'm all for this change if we also give the autocannon an infinite range and Km wide blast radius

to balance it out, remove one missile

 

Making the jet smoke and limp away to another jet spawn, a proces that can literally be done in less than 20 seconds in some circumstances, hardly makes it an anti-jet weapon.

Unless you were going for mild inconvenience.

I'm a jet griefer

the heavy sniper is a moderate annoyance, the hl is a mild annoyance

Pegasus is a huge annoyance

what would actually fix it is a Pegasus cool down on certain things in public lobbies

 

Agreeable. It would make the heavy sniper attrition mean something beyond the mild annoyance of having to change jets. (They'd have to suck it and wait... or limp all the way to Zancudo and get a Lazer)

 

The cooldown would have to start on the destruction of your armed vehicle though or it would be meaningless in most cases.

I vote for 30 minutes.

 

You have to account for the availability of Lazers from Zancudo. A 30-minute cooldown (significantly longer than the easy Lazer pass called "Cops Turn Blind Eye") is just going to make people take Lazers more often.

 

Something inconvenient like 10 minutes is more likely to make people actually wait it out instead of driving to Zancudo.

 

Yeah, perhaps they should not let Cops Turn A Blind Eye work at Zancudo and then it wouldnt be so easy to get a new one.

There needs to be a difference between jet griefers and people who use them for practicality. I take out my Hydra most of the time because it's fast and has good spawn points. I don't see why I should be penalized for that. So make a cooldown that hurts jet griefers more because they go down more.

[dewtech]

 

Ugh this game has enough cooldowns. What if you f*ck up your jet just doing sightseer or a mission? Maybe a long cooldown that starts when the jet is deployed? That way the people that it affects more are the people more likely to get their jet shot at.

 

Then it will encourage you to become a better pilot and crash less so its perfect.

 

 

 

 

 

we have an anti jet weapon that works already

it's called the heavy sniper

although I'm all for this change if we also give the autocannon an infinite range and Km wide blast radius

to balance it out, remove one missile

Making the jet smoke and limp away to another jet spawn, a proces that can literally be done in less than 20 seconds in some circumstances, hardly makes it an anti-jet weapon.

 

Unless you were going for mild inconvenience.

I'm a jet griefer

the heavy sniper is a moderate annoyance, the hl is a mild annoyance

Pegasus is a huge annoyance

 

what would actually fix it is a Pegasus cool down on certain things in public lobbies

 

Agreeable. It would make the heavy sniper attrition mean something beyond the mild annoyance of having to change jets. (They'd have to suck it and wait... or limp all the way to Zancudo and get a Lazer)

 

The cooldown would have to start on the destruction of your armed vehicle though or it would be meaningless in most cases.

I vote for 30 minutes.

 

 

You have to account for the availability of Lazers from Zancudo. A 30-minute cooldown (significantly longer than the easy Lazer pass called "Cops Turn Blind Eye") is just going to make people take Lazers more often.

 

Something inconvenient like 10 minutes is more likely to make people actually wait it out instead of driving to Zancudo.

 

 

Yeah, perhaps they should not let Cops Turn A Blind Eye work at Zancudo and then it wouldnt be so easy to get a new one.

 

 

At least that costs 5k per time instead of $200...

 

30 Minute cooldown on armed vehicles would be a good move imo.

[EvilDog77]

Just get rid of the damn thing and nerf the armour of the jets so I don't have to waste 50 mags of sniper ammo slightly damaging them.

[Non Fiction]

The homing launcher was added to combat jet griefers...all its good for is destroying helicopters(which weren't hard to destroy in the 1st place)...the only way they can fix it now would be to make it travel further distances quicker.

[Sir Michael]

Only the jet cowards are voting no.

And the people that want to casually fly normal planes and choppers with their friends without having to resort to Passive. You'd be surprised at how many players outside of GTAF don't even know that Invite-Only lobbies exist.

[shadowoperative]

 

Only the jet cowards are voting no.

And the people that want to casually fly normal planes and choppers with their friends without having to resort to Passive. You'd be surprised at how many players outside of GTAF don't even know that Invite-Only lobbies exist.

That is their fault for not being knowledgeable.

[aaronBLUEeyes]

Seriously, what the f*ck?!

 

You will never be able to fly a helicopter again ....

 

Don't ever think about it, this unskilled thing is already op, just don't.

Please!

It NOT OP against jets, it's useless against anyone that can fly in a circle.

 

It should have less range but faster lock-on time.

[Non Fiction]

^people who shouldn't be playing. When you go to the start menu to go to online, it has 'invite only' right in front of their faces.

[I.haigh]

Let's all just play a jet fighter pilot sim instead.

 

 

:edit: oh wait...

Edited February 25, 2016 by I.haigh

[Hunter]

The funny thing is, most people deep down agree that jets are a little overpowered.

 

But you get people who just want everything easy, and make ridiculous requests (like getting rid of jets). So there'll probably never be enough people agreeing on what should be done, meaning that, most likely, nothing will ever happen.

[Shneb]

The funny thing is, most people deep down agree that jets are a little overpowered.

 

But you get people who just want everything easy, and make ridiculous requests (like getting rid of jets). So there'll probably never be enough people agreeing on what should be done, meaning that, most likely, nothing will ever happen.

How we feel it should happen is fairly irrelevant to what Rockstar would actually do.

 

People complained about the tank and Rockstar hit it hard. People wanted it buffed back into relevance and Rockstar continues to not care.

 

I believe Rockstar could care enough to nerf the jet eventually but they won't turn to us on how it will happen.

[EkaSwede]

What if the homing launcher only works on jets?

[Logistics]

 

Homing launcher, heavy sniper. Jets have to fly in a fairly predictable path in order to dodge a missile.

No they don't. In the jet, I make crazy loops and other things when someone fired the HL at me. There's NOTHING predictable about my "path".

I'm not one of those people who juts start flying in a circle. That's just dumb

You may want to look up the definition of a loop. Doesn't matter what you do, you'll maintain a constant heading for 2-3 seconds.

[shadowoperative]

What if the homing launcher only works on jets?

Wouldn't help. Jet too fast/HL too slow.

[badnews]

What if the homing launcher only works on jets?

 

Yeah that would be good as long as they made it actually work against anyone flying in a circle

[EkaSwede]

 

What if the homing launcher only works on jets?

Wouldn't help. Jet too fast/HL too slow.

 

No worries, no worries. We'll just buff the sped a little bit.

 

Except when you shoot it, it just downs the jet anyway. Doesn't even have to hit it. Shoot at the ground, it blows up.

[shadowoperative]

There are many ways to fix it. Give the minigun heavy revolver rounds and heavy sniper range.

[MeisterJazz]

I can tell you guys now as a former jet greifer the homing launcher should be completely removed. Its utterly useless against jets yet op against helicopters. Why not just replace the homing launcher with the railgun?