Dear r* (regarding overall female clothing choices)

[Hunter]

 

 

1. "I'm still waiting for an update that adds more contact missions (the main point of GTA), as well as reintroduce the removed contact missions (assuming the bugs in those missions are fixed)."

 

So what? I'm still waiting for a new attack helicopter, and missions too - you don't see me sh*tting over what someone else wants. Irrelevant.

 

2. "A bunch of other clothing items were patched as well. For BOTH, male AND female."

 

You're only strengthening her point with this.

 

3. "GTA Online is NOT a fashion simulator. Try Sims for that."

 

It's not a driving simulator. Yet there are cars. It's not a flight simulator, yet I can re enact the Soviet - Afghan war with my Savage. It doesn't have to be a simulator to have content specialized towards particular people.

 

4. "It had the clipping issues because it was glitched by another party. R* did NOT intend for it to happen. You can't blame R$ for the problems of unofficial mods. Things like that happen if you try to do things the developers didn't intend. CLEARLY by removing the glitched clothes, R$ doesn't want people using mods."

 

Then Rockstar should've put it in the game in the first place. That she had to glitch for something as basic as that is ridiculous.

 

5. "Maybe its because the stereotypical "lowrider demographic" female population in those areas dress like that. Also, the DLC as of late is basically Lowriders Part 2, 3, 4...

Besides, even with the "male" clothing, FEMALE CLOTHING STILL DOMINATES compared to men."

People are sick to death of low riders. F**k low riders.

6. "A saying goes like this, "You canNOT please everyone." So knowing that, in business, we try to market towards the primary consumer (NOT everyone). Most of the consumers are NOT highly concerned with clothing. At the end of the day, the main audience PAYS the R$ employees their money. The consumer is NOT making wishlist about a R$'$ $ecret fashion show in GTA."

They're not pleasing anyone. If they can release umpteen low riders in a row, they can release some half decent clothes for female characters.

7. "What about the male side? GTA's clothing STILL FAVOR'S WOMEN."

Women need more clothes. Don't you have a girlfriend, or wife, or mother, or any sisters? How have you not learned that by now? I have a male character - I don't care about the clothes.

8. "Its geared towards the males because they mainly purcha$e the game and will give R$ the $$$. Besides, the MALES GET LESS CLOTHING OPTIONS. This game is NOT shop at the Target, F21, Abercrombie, American Eagle, or whatever clothing shops are in. Ain't nobody got time to focus on fashion when the BULK of the gamer$ play for reasons other than clothing. Besides, our systems can only hold so much space.

Besides, there is a list like that for men. Why can't I have my character do a hip swivel while in a unicorn suit and eat a box of Booty-O's?"

Have you got some figures to back this up? No? Well there are plenty of women on here; I'm sure there's a sizable audience.

9. "Maybe its because the stereotypical "lowrider demographic" female population in those areas dress like that. Its basically a repeat of one of your statements. And like a repeat of your last statement, R$ is repeating Lowriders by introducing Lowriders Part 45,79, 93... (which include "manly" clothes that females in the "lowrider" group stereotypically wear.) And most of the clohting in lowriders are repaints. I'm still waiting on my Booty-O's clothes."

This isn't a low riders simulator. We're sick of them.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[RustyShackleford]

 

 

 

1. "I'm still waiting for an update that adds more contact missions (the main point of GTA), as well as reintroduce the removed contact missions (assuming the bugs in those missions are fixed)."

 

So what? I'm still waiting for a new attack helicopter, and missions too - you don't see me sh*tting over what someone else wants. Irrelevant.

 

It IS relevant because people have their wants, and their new clothes will probably be introduced as a "side" to support the next DLC, but as a SIDE. Besides, you only mentioned helicopters and missions. Show me where I shat all over her argument. I am just saying that we all want things, but (like you) missions take priority.

 

2. "A bunch of other clothing items were patched as well. For BOTH, male AND female."

 

You're only strengthening her point with this.

 

She is focused on FEMALE clothing as the priority. I am just saying FEMALE CLOTHING is NOT a priority.

 

3. "GTA Online is NOT a fashion simulator. Try Sims for that."

 

It's not a driving simulator. Yet there are cars. It's not a flight simulator, yet I can re enact the Soviet - Afghan war with my Savage. It doesn't have to be a simulator to have content specialized towards particular people.

 

There is a HUGE market for racing in GTA and people, and even some GTA Youtubers are becoming big names by focusing primarily on racing. If racing wasn't popular in GTA, certain channels wouldn't have grown so much.

 

4. "It had the clipping issues because it was glitched by another party. R* did NOT intend for it to happen. You can't blame R$ for the problems of unofficial mods. Things like that happen if you try to do things the developers didn't intend. CLEARLY by removing the glitched clothes, R$ doesn't want people using mods."

 

Then Rockstar should've put it in the game in the first place. That she had to glitch for something as basic as that is ridiculous.

 

R* did NOT place the option to add the clothing to be worn together. It was supposed to be WORN SEPARATE. What she did was glitch the boots and leggings together. The only way that it made its way into the game was by glitching. Because R$ removed the glitched clothes (or tried to), they showed that it wasn't supposed to be in the game in the first place. R* intended their clothing to NOT be layered with boots and leggings. R* did NOT place the option to layer boots and leggings in the game. If the modders wanted to go against R$, at least they should fix the clipping.

 

5. "Maybe its because the stereotypical "lowrider demographic" female population in those areas dress like that. Also, the DLC as of late is basically Lowriders Part 2, 3, 4...

Besides, even with the "male" clothing, FEMALE CLOTHING STILL DOMINATES compared to men."

People are sick to death of low riders. F**k low riders.

Lowriders suck too, but R$ playing into the "stereotypes" is why females get "manly" clothes that update.

6. "A saying goes like this, "You canNOT please everyone." So knowing that, in business, we try to market towards the primary consumer (NOT everyone). Most of the consumers are NOT highly concerned with clothing. At the end of the day, the main audience PAYS the R$ employees their money. The consumer is NOT making wishlist about a R$'$ $ecret fashion show in GTA."

They're not pleasing anyone. If they can release umpteen low riders in a row, they can release some half decent clothes for female characters.

Lowriders are just repaints of cars and clothing and a reason to get people to come back to GTA when they could be playing The Division. Besides, its easier to add in repaints of existing models rather than to add new ones. So no wonder they release Lowriders part 34, 46, 67 every few weeks. R* just allows the already included lowrider paints and whatnot to be added to the already included cars. They don't need to code in much of any new layers. At most, they probably have to fix the way a certain paint livery appears on a Tornado (vs the Voodoo).

7. "What about the male side? GTA's clothing STILL FAVOR'S WOMEN."

Women need more clothes. Don't you have a girlfriend, or wife, or mother, or any sisters? How have you not learned that by now? I have a male character - I don't care about the clothes.

And they will get new clothing as the updates roll out. Besides, clothing is a "want." Just because people "want" things doesn't mean that they are entitled to them. I want millions of dollars and billions of dollars. I want to be the supreme ruler of the world. I want to eat all sorts of junk food and NOT get fat. I want to have the next Star Wars episode come out next month. I wanted Villanova to LOSE. I wanted to see Holms vs. Rousey part 2 for the title. Wants are just wants. We all want a lot of things, but we ain't getting it all. Sometimes, when clothes shopping, the wife, GF, or mother wants this and that, but this and that is TOO EXPENSIVE. You have to get this OR that, but not both, not this AND that. Besides, my family growing up didn't have a lot of money, so the wifes, GF's and other female may have wanted clothing, the reality of wants vs. needs sat in.

8. "Its geared towards the males because they mainly purcha$e the game and will give R$ the $$$. Besides, the MALES GET LESS CLOTHING OPTIONS. This game is NOT shop at the Target, F21, Abercrombie, American Eagle, or whatever clothing shops are in. Ain't nobody got time to focus on fashion when the BULK of the gamer$ play for reasons other than clothing. Besides, our systems can only hold so much space.

Besides, there is a list like that for men. Why can't I have my character do a hip swivel while in a unicorn suit and eat a box of Booty-O's?"

Have you got some figures to back this up? No? Well there are plenty of women on here; I'm sure there's a sizable audience.

The original author failed to provide statistics of the amount of women in GTA as well. The author is arguing about the lack of female clothing, so the BURDEN OF PROOF LIES ON HER, NOT ME. Although there are some female gamers out there, the bulk of hardcore gamers are male. Males also spend more time gaming than females. The males also spend more money on gaming as well.

Here are some statistics I found.

http://usabilitynews.org/video-games-males-prefer-violence-while-females-prefer-social/

http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/12/15/who-plays-video-games-and-identifies-as-a-gamer/

9. "Maybe its because the stereotypical "lowrider demographic" female population in those areas dress like that. Its basically a repeat of one of your statements. And like a repeat of your last statement, R$ is repeating Lowriders by introducing Lowriders Part 45,79, 93... (which include "manly" clothes that females in the "lowrider" group stereotypically wear.) And most of the clohting in lowriders are repaints. I'm still waiting on my Booty-O's clothes."

This isn't a low riders simulator. We're sick of them.

Maybe the next major update will introduce some new clothing for BOTH males and females, but the R$ formula shows that the MAIN COURSE will be the update's primary content (hopefully missions or races), but clothing will probably support the main update. If R* adds in clothes, it will be in a minor form (like X-mas). If that happens, you won't get this AND that clothing options, you will only get this OR that, but not both (or everything that was listed).

 

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

 

(Sighs)

 

1. "It IS relevant because people have their wants, and their new clothes will probably be introduced as a "side" to support the next DLC, but as a SIDE. Besides, you only mentioned helicopters and missions. Show me where I shat all over her argument. I am just saying that we all want things, but (like you) missions take priority."

 

You're not allowing her to have her wants. And no, I didn't say that missions should take priority.

 

2. "She is focused on FEMALE clothing as the priority. I am just saying FEMALE CLOTHING is NOT a priority."

 

Female clothing should be a priority. It has been neglected.

 

3. "There is a HUGE market for racing in GTA and people, and even some GTA Youtubers are becoming big names by focusing primarily on racing. If racing wasn't popular in GTA, certain channels wouldn't have grown so much."

 

And GTA isn't a racing simulator, yet it has this? Can't have it all ways can you?

 

4. "R* did NOT place the option to add the clothing to be worn together. It was supposed to be WORN SEPARATE. What she did was glitch the boots and leggings together. The only way that it made its way into the game was by glitching. Because R$ removed the glitched clothes (or tried to), they showed that it wasn't supposed to be in the game in the first place. R* intended their clothing to NOT be layered with boots and leggings. R* did NOT place the option to layer boots and leggings in the game. If the modders wanted to go against R$, at least they should fix the clipping. "

 

Once again, Rockstar should have added this in the first place. She should not have had to glitch to obtain it.

 

5. "Lowriders suck too, but R$ playing into the "stereotypes" is why females get "manly" clothes that update."

 

The point being? She can complain about that if she wants.

 

6. "Lowriders are just repaints of cars and clothing and a reason to get people to come back to GTA when they could be playing The Division. Besides, its easier to add in repaints of existing models rather than to add new ones. So no wonder they release Lowriders part 34, 46, 67 every few weeks. R* just allows the already included lowrider paints and whatnot to be added to the already included cars. They don't need to code in much of any new layers. At most, they probably have to fix the way a certain paint livery appears on a Tornado (vs the Voodoo)."

 

That doesn't mean it's not BS that hardly anyone wants.

7. "And they will get new clothing as the updates roll out. Besides, clothing is a "want." Just because people "want" things doesn't mean that they are entitled to them. I want millions of dollars and billions of dollars. I want to be the supreme ruler of the world. I want to eat all sorts of junk food and NOT get fat. I want to have the next Star Wars episode come out next month. I wanted Villanova to LOSE. I wanted to see Holms vs. Rousey part 2 for the title. Wants are just wants. We all want a lot of things, but we ain't getting it all. Sometimes, when clothes shopping, the wife, GF, or mother wants this and that, but this and that is TOO EXPENSIVE. You have to get this OR that, but not both, not this AND that. Besides, my family growing up didn't have a lot of money, so the wifes, GF's and other female may have wanted clothing, the reality of wants vs. needs sat in."

 

This isn't reality. This is where dreams are meant to come true. That's why it's full of kids with guns, and I get to fly a Hind. Why are you trying to deny them their dream?

 

8. "The original author failed to provide statistics of the amount of women in GTA as well. The author is arguing about the lack of female clothing, so the BURDEN OF PROOF LIES ON HER, NOT ME. Although there are some female gamers out there, the bulk of hardcore gamers are male. Males also spend more time gaming than females. The males also spend more money on gaming as well."

 

I've seen plenty of women who like games. I think they should get what they want.

 

9. "Maybe the next major update will introduce some new clothing for BOTH males and females, but the R$ formula shows that the MAIN COURSE will be the update's primary content (hopefully missions or races), but clothing will probably support the main update. If R* adds in clothes, it will be in a minor form (like X-mas). If that happens, you won't get this AND that clothing options, you will only get this OR that, but not both (or everything that was listed)."

 

So what? Maybe that's what they'll do; doesn't mean people can't complain about it though.

 

Why are you trying to derail her thread? Bad vibes, bad vibes.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[Audi]

Ignore him, that's what has kept this thread civil so far, ignoring the trolls.

[Miss-RI95]

 

Let me respond with BOLD inside of the quote.

What about the male side? GTA's clothing STILL FAVOR'S WOMEN.

 

 

Besides, even with the "male" clothing, FEMALE CLOTHING STILL DOMINATES compared to men.

 

Its geared towards the males because they mainly purcha$e the game and will give R$ the $$$. Besides, the MALES GET LESS CLOTHING OPTIONS. This game is NOT shop at the Target, F21, Abercrombie, American Eagle, or whatever clothing shops are in. Ain't nobody got time to focus on fashion when the BULK of the gamer$ play for reasons other than clothing. Besides, our systems can only hold so much space.

 

GTA Online is NOT a fashion simulator. Try Sims for that.

 

First three quotes contradict themselves. You can't say Rockstar favour women in clothes then later on claim that they are geared to males.

 

Where is the logic in that?

 

In your 3rd quote which I'll insert here: "Ain't nobody got time to focus on fashion when the BULK of the gamer$ play for reasons other than clothing. Besides, our systems can only hold so much space."

 

Yeah, this is invalid hun'. Yes they do have different areas of the game such as missions, deathmatches, cars and many more. But that is why Rockstar can afford to hire a lot of people to work on these different areas, therefore making time for them to create items including clothes.

 

Now finally for a big rant. Yes, we all acknowledge that this isn't a fashion simulator, so using the "Go play Sims" is irrelevant because 1. it takes effort to find a nice outfit then which is why people turn to custom content. Gosh people. 2. The loading times kill to change outfits everyday. 3. Sims includes other skills of interior design which are hugely part of Sims. This means...SIMS ISN'T JUST FASHION PEOPLE. STOP USING SIMS AS AN ARGUMENT POINT BECAUSE IT IS IRRELEVANT.

 

Clothing actually plays a big part in GTA V Online seeing as you wear them all the time. So it will forever continue to be produced in GTA V Online. So this thread is just advice with a side of bitching of what we want to see in GTA V Online ~ In the fashion side.

 

Why is it there is different concept ideas with threads and ideas, yet when we have one just solely for female clothing with ideas, concepts and input from many forum members of all genders but some people just want to shift us of the apparent game we should play for fashion (Sims).

 

I want to slay people while looking good not looking like I dressed in the dark.

[RustyShackleford]

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Sighs)

 

1. "It IS relevant because people have their wants, and their new clothes will probably be introduced as a "side" to support the next DLC, but as a SIDE. Besides, you only mentioned helicopters and missions. Show me where I shat all over her argument. I am just saying that we all want things, but (like you) missions take priority."

 

You're not allowing her to have her wants. And no, I didn't say that missions should take priority.

 

She will get her some (NOT ALL) of her wants (clothing) in the next update IF it is not some repaint or rehash of current DLC. Besides, not everyone can have what they want, especially in the large GTA community. If the don't get what they want, DEAL WITH IT AND GET OVER IT. You can't alway get what you want in life. Its not me who is NOT allowing her to get what she wants, its R$ (they make the updates). I have NO SAY. Besides R$ DOES introduce some new female clothing as we go. Its not like they are completely ignoring female clothing. Maybe R$ will introduce nail polish in one update, the next, they will introduce long hair, then the update after, they will introduce boots over leggings. THEY DON'T WANT TO USE RESOURCES AND DO IT ALL AT ONCE.

 

2. "She is focused on FEMALE clothing as the priority. I am just saying FEMALE CLOTHING is NOT a priority."

 

Female clothing should be a priority. It has been neglected.

 

As with male clothing, and pretty much anything other than lowriders. Its just that the other things that are neglected takes priority. Female clothing IS a priority in updates. It just not THE priority.

 

3. "There is a HUGE market for racing in GTA and people, and even some GTA Youtubers are becoming big names by focusing primarily on racing. If racing wasn't popular in GTA, certain channels wouldn't have grown so much."

 

And GTA isn't a racing simulator, yet it has this? Can't have it all ways can you?

 

If racing generates enough $$$ for R$, they will have it. Besides, GTA has featured illegal street racing for a LONG TIME as a part of GTA (a bigger part than clothes). GTA is also a sh*tty racing simulator compared to Gran Turismo.

 

4. "R* did NOT place the option to add the clothing to be worn together. It was supposed to be WORN SEPARATE. What she did was glitch the boots and leggings together. The only way that it made its way into the game was by glitching. Because R$ removed the glitched clothes (or tried to), they showed that it wasn't supposed to be in the game in the first place. R* intended their clothing to NOT be layered with boots and leggings. R* did NOT place the option to layer boots and leggings in the game. If the modders wanted to go against R$, at least they should fix the clipping. "

 

Once again, Rockstar should have added this in the first place. She should not have had to glitch to obtain it.

 

This goes back to the community wants vs. R$'s resources, which will be explained later.

 

5. "Lowriders suck too, but R$ playing into the "stereotypes" is why females get "manly" clothes that update."

 

The point being? She can complain about that if she wants.

 

We ALL are complaining about lowriders. Most of us sold most of our lowriders already.

 

6. "Lowriders are just repaints of cars and clothing and a reason to get people to come back to GTA when they could be playing The Division. Besides, its easier to add in repaints of existing models rather than to add new ones. So no wonder they release Lowriders part 34, 46, 67 every few weeks. R* just allows the already included lowrider paints and whatnot to be added to the already included cars. They don't need to code in much of any new layers. At most, they probably have to fix the way a certain paint livery appears on a Tornado (vs the Voodoo)."

 

That doesn't mean it's not BS that hardly anyone wants.

 

We know no one wants lowriders. The problem is what R$ should focus their time and resources on for the next DLC.

7. "And they will get new clothing as the updates roll out. Besides, clothing is a "want." Just because people "want" things doesn't mean that they are entitled to them. I want millions of dollars and billions of dollars. I want to be the supreme ruler of the world. I want to eat all sorts of junk food and NOT get fat. I want to have the next Star Wars episode come out next month. I wanted Villanova to LOSE. I wanted to see Holms vs. Rousey part 2 for the title. Wants are just wants. We all want a lot of things, but we ain't getting it all. Sometimes, when clothes shopping, the wife, GF, or mother wants this and that, but this and that is TOO EXPENSIVE. You have to get this OR that, but not both, not this AND that. Besides, my family growing up didn't have a lot of money, so the wifes, GF's and other female may have wanted clothing, the reality of wants vs. needs sat in."

 

This isn't reality. This is where dreams are meant to come true. That's why it's full of kids with guns, and I get to fly a Hind. Why are you trying to deny them their dream?

 

In "reality," it takes MONEY, TIME, AND RESOURCES to make what the community wants in the virtual world. With the amount of people in the GTA community vs. the amount of developers in the R$'s offices making what we want, we all can't get what we want because there are many different wants in our large community and focusing on FEMALE clothing as a major update is at the bottom of the list. Obviously R$ gave us some female clothing, but it still is not enough to satisfy the posters here. A lot of the community however wants missions (and some races), so in future updates we will get missions, and some races. The amount of people wanting female clothing R$ views as minor, so their clothing will be a "minor" part of updates.

 

8. "The original author failed to provide statistics of the amount of women in GTA as well. The author is arguing about the lack of female clothing, so the BURDEN OF PROOF LIES ON HER, NOT ME. Although there are some female gamers out there, the bulk of hardcore gamers are male. Males also spend more time gaming than females. The males also spend more money on gaming as well."

 

I've seen plenty of women who like games. I think they should get what they want.

 

Probably because (I assume) you are a woman, you socialize primarily with women (other than your [possible] boyfriend). Of course you will see plenty of women who play games. I am a man and I see mainly men play games. Besides I cited the statistic about how men outnumber women in gaming. Personal anecdotes can't represent all women. Statistics > One or two personal instances of X (unless there are statistics to back it up). Besides even if plenty of women play games, it is unfair to leave out the men. Also, if plenty of women play games, the statistics show that it is still not enough compared to the men. I'll relink the statistic.

 

http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/12/15/who-plays-video-games-and-identifies-as-a-gamer/

 

9. "Maybe the next major update will introduce some new clothing for BOTH males and females, but the R$ formula shows that the MAIN COURSE will be the update's primary content (hopefully missions or races), but clothing will probably support the main update. If R* adds in clothes, it will be in a minor form (like X-mas). If that happens, you won't get this AND that clothing options, you will only get this OR that, but not both (or everything that was listed)."

 

So what? Maybe that's what they'll do; doesn't mean people can't complain about it though.

 

People can complain, but others can complain and respond to complaints.

 

Why are you trying to derail her thread? Bad vibes, bad vibes.

 

I'm not against clothing in general. I am against the topic wanting R$ to focus their limited resources PRIMARILY on FEMALE CLOTHING in a MAJOR UPDATE. A major update is the only way the OP will get ALL of what she wants. A minor "holiday" pack isn't enough Besides give the males some clothing in the name of equality (in a MINOR update of course).

 

 

 

 

Let me respond with BOLD inside of the quote.

What about the male side? GTA's clothing STILL FAVOR'S WOMEN.

 

 

Besides, even with the "male" clothing, FEMALE CLOTHING STILL DOMINATES compared to men.

 

Its geared towards the males because they mainly purcha$e the game and will give R$ the $$$. Besides, the MALES GET LESS CLOTHING OPTIONS. This game is NOT shop at the Target, F21, Abercrombie, American Eagle, or whatever clothing shops are in. Ain't nobody got time to focus on fashion when the BULK of the gamer$ play for reasons other than clothing. Besides, our systems can only hold so much space.

 

GTA Online is NOT a fashion simulator. Try Sims for that.

 

First three quotes contradict themselves. You can't say Rockstar favour women in clothes then later on claim that they are geared to males.

 

No they don't contradict themselves. The first quote was stating that FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE, the second quote says that even if you add male clothing, FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE, and the third quote says that FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE. Seems pretty consistent to me. Female clothes in current GTA > Male clothing in GTA (even with support). GTA IS geared towards males, but R$ can still have a 60-40% ratio of female to male clothes. The GAME is marketed primarily for men, HOWEVER the clothing still favors females. We can still market a game for men, but have the GTAO clothing favor females.

 

Where is the logic in that?

 

In your 3rd quote which I'll insert here: "Ain't nobody got time to focus on fashion when the BULK of the gamer$ play for reasons other than clothing. Besides, our systems can only hold so much space."

 

Yeah, this is invalid hun'. Yes they do have different areas of the game such as missions, deathmatches, cars and many more. But that is why Rockstar can afford to hire a lot of people to work on these different areas, therefore making time for them to create items including clothes.

 

No, its NOT invalid. It costs money to make updates and we have to proportionate what the people want. A small number want clothes, so we divvy up a small percent of a DLC with clothing. Besides if R$ doesn't see $$$, they won't waste the $$$ on new hires. Businesses want $$$ and if they don't see $$$, they won't waste $$$. It will p*ss off the shareholders and upper management. Saving $$$ makes you look good in front of upper management.

 

Now finally for a big rant. Yes, we all acknowledge that this isn't a fashion simulator, so using the "Go play Sims" is irrelevant because 1. it takes effort to find a nice outfit then which is why people turn to custom content. Gosh people. 2. The loading times kill to change outfits everyday. 3. Sims includes other skills of interior design which are hugely part of Sims. This means...SIMS ISN'T JUST FASHION PEOPLE. STOP USING SIMS AS AN ARGUMENT POINT BECAUSE IT IS IRRELEVANT.

 

Clothing actually plays a big part in GTA V Online seeing as you wear them all the time. So it will forever continue to be produced in GTA V Online. So this thread is just advice with a side of bitching of what we want to see in GTA V Online ~ In the fashion side.

 

No one is denying clothing is a part of GTA online. What I am saying is that clothing, when compared to the rest of GTA is MINOR. If clothing is "big", the bulk of what makes GTA, GTA (shooting, violence, cars, money, missions, etc), is WAY BIGGER. Besides, you will still get some female clothing and/or accessories in future DLC's.

 

Why is it there is different concept ideas with threads and ideas, yet when we have one just solely for female clothing with ideas, concepts and input from many forum members of all genders but some people just want to shift us of the apparent game we should play for fashion (Sims).

 

Because the GTA world doesn't soley revolve around you. Its not like R$ won't give you ANY clothes, R$ shouldn't focus most of their resources primarily on clothing.

 

I want to slay people while looking good not looking like I dressed in the dark.

 

I want my character to wear a box of Booty-O's cereal while hip swiveling over his victims.

 

I'm not some asshat who hates X, I just don't like the idea of PRIMARILY FOCUSING on female clothing in GTAO. I'm not against SOME clothing, I am against an update PRIMARILY on clothing for PRIMARILY FEMALES. Besides, we don't get frequent updates because it takes a LONG time to make content and R* won't hire new people for updates. R* is on limited resources. They aren't making as much money as when GTA came out. R$ (hopefully) got their $$$ from the launch day sales. Now they live off of $hark card$ because GTA is now either on clearance or sold in the secondary market.

 

 

Ignore him, that's what has kept this thread civil so far, ignoring the trolls.

 

Whats wrong with diversity of opinions? It is HARMFUL to ignore other opinions (assuming they are taking about the discussion).

 

A thread can be civil as long as we stick to the discussion of the topic. My arguments were mostly responses to statements and arguments with some new arguments being brought up CONCERNING THE TOPIC OF FEMALE CLOTHING IN GTA ONLINE.

 

Besides I am NOT a "troll." That is ad-hominem. I want to focus my attacks on the arguments, rather resort to name calling. You don't see me name calling. You don't see me posting pictures trying to get an emotion. Lets NOT name call. If I DO post a picture, it will be related to the topic at hand in some way (like a graph from a study).

Edited April 5, 2016 by RustyShackleford

[Vro]

 

 

 

pls rockster

 

mabe ill play the gaim again if some ogs get in

Edited April 5, 2016 by hotrider567

[RustyShackleford]

 

 

 

pls rockster

 

mabe ill play the gaim again if some ogs get in

 

Hopefully R$ makes a sports update and adds that in. I want to see how they parody the Jordans. If they can add Ferrari and Lambo parodys in the game without being sued (successfully to stop them), I don't see why they can't add in some J's.

[Hunter]

 

 

 

You can rephrase your BS as much as you want; it's still BS.

 

Just a thinly veiled attack on the thread mixed with the usual "go play the sims" rubbish.

 

And for your information, I'm actually not a woman. I just don't allow this to make me biased. Plus I just happen to like women, and I hope they get what they want.

 

If you're not a troll, and you really want to debate this in a logical way, then go back to the drawing board and stop posting toxic walls of text. Also turn the caps lock off.

 

Part of why I support this topic is because the people here are civil. You're upsetting that civility.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[CUTS3R]

People still use the "its not X its GTA" argument ? You should know by now it has no weight whatsoever no matter the subject.

 

The thing we spend the most of our time watching is our characters, so wanting them to look the way we want is extremely important. Asking in a constructive manner for more options is a legitimate request.

 

Some love to look like half naked clowns, others like being COD wannabes, theres is nothing wrong with that.

But i play a female and i want her to look like a woman i could meet in the street, with a variety of clothing i like to see on IRL women and are not currently in the game.

Whatever the haters can say about it, this thread must carry on until it gets adressed.

Because it goes way beyond asking for for more customizition. Its about aknowledging what ( for the most part ) the females players community wants and treating them as equal from the males players community. You can't give a gender a better treatment than the other, and this goes inside and outside the game.

Edited April 5, 2016 by CUTS3R

[xDatxJunkyx]

 

 

 

 

You can rephrase your BS as much as you want; it's still BS.

 

Just a thinly veiled attack on the thread mixed with the usual "go play the sims" rubbish.

 

And for your information, I'm actually not a woman. I just don't allow this to make me biased. Plus I just happen to like women, and I hope they get what they want.

 

If you're not a troll, and you really want to debate this in a logical way, then go back to the drawing board and stop posting toxic walls of text. Also turn the caps lock off.

 

Part of why I support this topic is because the people here are civil. You're upsetting that civility.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 5, 2016 by xDatxJunkyx

[Miss-RI95]

 

 

 

 

Let me respond with BOLD inside of the quote.

What about the male side? GTA's clothing STILL FAVOR'S WOMEN.

 

 

Besides, even with the "male" clothing, FEMALE CLOTHING STILL DOMINATES compared to men.

 

Its geared towards the males because they mainly purcha$e the game and will give R$ the $$$. Besides, the MALES GET LESS CLOTHING OPTIONS. This game is NOT shop at the Target, F21, Abercrombie, American Eagle, or whatever clothing shops are in. Ain't nobody got time to focus on fashion when the BULK of the gamer$ play for reasons other than clothing. Besides, our systems can only hold so much space.

 

GTA Online is NOT a fashion simulator. Try Sims for that.

 

First three quotes contradict themselves. You can't say Rockstar favour women in clothes then later on claim that they are geared to males.

 

No they don't contradict themselves. The first quote was stating that FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE, the second quote says that even if you add male clothing, FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE, and the third quote says that FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE. Seems pretty consistent to me. Female clothes in current GTA > Male clothing in GTA (even with support). GTA IS geared towards males, but R$ can still have a 60-40% ratio of female to male clothes. The GAME is marketed primarily for men, HOWEVER the clothing still favors females. We can still market a game for men, but have the GTAO clothing favor females.

 

Where is the logic in that?

 

In your 3rd quote which I'll insert here: "Ain't nobody got time to focus on fashion when the BULK of the gamer$ play for reasons other than clothing. Besides, our systems can only hold so much space."

 

Yeah, this is invalid hun'. Yes they do have different areas of the game such as missions, deathmatches, cars and many more. But that is why Rockstar can afford to hire a lot of people to work on these different areas, therefore making time for them to create items including clothes.

 

No, its NOT invalid. It costs money to make updates and we have to proportionate what the people want. A small number want clothes, so we divvy up a small percent of a DLC with clothing. Besides if R$ doesn't see $$$, they won't waste the $$$ on new hires. Businesses want $$$ and if they don't see $$$, they won't waste $$$. It will p*ss off the shareholders and upper management. Saving $$$ makes you look good in front of upper management.

 

Now finally for a big rant. Yes, we all acknowledge that this isn't a fashion simulator, so using the "Go play Sims" is irrelevant because 1. it takes effort to find a nice outfit then which is why people turn to custom content. Gosh people. 2. The loading times kill to change outfits everyday. 3. Sims includes other skills of interior design which are hugely part of Sims. This means...SIMS ISN'T JUST FASHION PEOPLE. STOP USING SIMS AS AN ARGUMENT POINT BECAUSE IT IS IRRELEVANT.

 

Clothing actually plays a big part in GTA V Online seeing as you wear them all the time. So it will forever continue to be produced in GTA V Online. So this thread is just advice with a side of bitching of what we want to see in GTA V Online ~ In the fashion side.

 

No one is denying clothing is a part of GTA online. What I am saying is that clothing, when compared to the rest of GTA is MINOR. If clothing is "big", the bulk of what makes GTA, GTA (shooting, violence, cars, money, missions, etc), is WAY BIGGER. Besides, you will still get some female clothing and/or accessories in future DLC's.

 

Why is it there is different concept ideas with threads and ideas, yet when we have one just solely for female clothing with ideas, concepts and input from many forum members of all genders but some people just want to shift us of the apparent game we should play for fashion (Sims).

 

Because the GTA world doesn't soley revolve around you. Its not like R$ won't give you ANY clothes, R$ shouldn't focus most of their resources primarily on clothing.

 

I want to slay people while looking good not looking like I dressed in the dark.

 

I want my character to wear a box of Booty-O's cereal while hip swiveling over his victims.

 

I'm not some asshat who hates X, I just don't like the idea of PRIMARILY FOCUSING on female clothing in GTAO. I'm not against SOME clothing, I am against an update PRIMARILY on clothing for PRIMARILY FEMALES. Besides, we don't get frequent updates because it takes a LONG time to make content and R* won't hire new people for updates. R* is on limited resources. They aren't making as much money as when GTA came out. R$ (hopefully) got their $$$ from the launch day sales. Now they live off of $hark card$ because GTA is now either on clearance or sold in the secondary market.

 

 

 

Hi again.

 

"No they don't contradict themselves. The first quote was stating that FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE, the second quote says that even if you add male clothing, FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE, and the third quote says that FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE. Seems pretty consistent to me. Female clothes in current GTA > Male clothing in GTA (even with support). GTA IS geared towards males, but R$ can still have a 60-40% ratio of female to male clothes. The GAME is marketed primarily for men, HOWEVER the clothing still favors females. We can still market a game for men, but have the GTAO clothing favor females."

 

I don't see how you can say that female clothing dominates male clothing without counting them and giving a proper statistic to support your point. It isn't consistent either considering you have no statistic to back it up. Now I did try and count it up for you and for my interest but unfortunately it is 23:08 (11:08PM) and I am half asleep. I did however go onto GTAWikia website and went on the clothing. It however doesn't show a full list of clothing for both genders. Saying GTA is geared towards male implies that everything under it is - including clothing.

 

Even if there was more female clothing, do you actually think most of it is wearable outside on the streets? Some of them don't look good, some of them just don't look right. Some are okay to wear. Everyone has their own preferences to clothing though. Not everyone wants to dress in red lace underwear just like not everyone wants a Progen T20.

 

"No, its NOT invalid. It costs money to make updates and we have to proportionate what the people want. A small number want clothes, so we divvy up a small percent of a DLC with clothing. Besides if R$ doesn't see $$$, they won't waste the $$$ on new hires. Businesses want $$$ and if they don't see $$$, they won't waste $$$. It will p*ss off the shareholders and upper management. Saving $$$ makes you look good in front of upper management."

 

And also producing "$$$" or "£££" or any other currency is also seen as "good in front of upper management". Meaning they'd need to please people into actually getting that money in. They won't be seeing "$$$" if it isn't meeting the demand/preferences of what people want because it would then become a surplus amount of items which nobody wants to purchase due to it not meeting the target markets preference. They wouldn't be hiring people anyway, unless someone of the team leaves then they MAY need to replace them.

 

"Businesses want $$$ and if they don't see $$$, they won't waste $$$."

 

Actually if the businesses aren't gaining enough income, they change their route and plan into actually getting money not abandoning everything and losing it by not wasting money. Yes they won't use ALL of the money but they will spend a reasonable amount by investing it correctly to get money back into the business or corporation.

 

"It costs money to make updates"

 

Yes, I am aware it does cost money to make updates but how are Rockstar or any other company going to recuperate the costs? By pleasing the gamers and target markets into purchasing the items. This then funds for the DLC, wages, bills, future DLC's and many others. It is and endless cycle which brings in an income which also covers the expenditure and leaves a surplus amount of cash for investment and saving.

 

"No one is denying clothing is a part of GTA online. What I am saying is that clothing, when compared to the rest of GTA is MINOR. If clothing is "big", the bulk of what makes GTA, GTA (shooting, violence, cars, money, missions, etc), is WAY BIGGER. Besides, you will still get some female clothing and/or accessories in future DLC's."

I don't disagree with you in the first part, yes clothing is minor compared to the main aspects of GTA V as a whole. However, clothing does somehow link back to all of these, it is like glue, it keeps it all together. (Depending on how you view clothing in GTA V.)

Now the second part is debateable. We can't foresee if Rockstar will give an update and not give any new female clothing ~ or vice versa. But bringing back to my point of is the clothing actually, fashionable? Wearable in the streets? Appropriate?

"Because the GTA world doesn't soley revolve around you."

I am fully aware it doesn't and never gave any inference/indication or me even directly saying it did? So the sarcastic/snarky comment was totally unneeded.

 

Its not like R$ won't give you ANY clothes, R$ shouldn't focus most of their resources primarily on clothing."

 

We know they won't stop giving us clothes, but the whole point of this thread is for suggesting clothing which would like to see in these updates. Where we will be happy with these different clothing. Take a look at the whole 19 pages of these threads. There is a whole diverse range of clothes we would like to see in GTA V. Some of us may not like what someone else wants. It doesn't matter though as it all comes down to preference. I'm not a huge fan of high heeled sneakers (don't hate on me for it) but I was happy that other people out there got what they wanted. Including someone in this thread!

Rockstars resources aren't limited either. They do have the money, not like how you are making them out to have $1500 and that is it. They are gaining an income as well as producing content. I would say as an opinion that they are steady.

 

"I want my character to wear a box of Booty-O's cereal while hip swiveling over his victims."

 

Each to their own. Like I said, it comes down to preference hun'. I would rather wear dresses or high waisted clothing.

 

"I'm not some asshat who hates X, I just don't like the idea of PRIMARILY FOCUSING on female clothing in GTAO. I'm not against SOME clothing, I am against an update PRIMARILY on clothing for PRIMARILY FEMALES. Besides, we don't get frequent updates because it takes a LONG time to make content and R* won't hire new people for updates. R* is on limited resources. They aren't making as much money as when GTA came out. R$ (hopefully) got their $$$ from the launch day sales. Now they live off of $hark card$ because GTA is now either on clearance or sold in the secondary market."

We haven't stated that Rockstar should drop everything they are producing and only produce clothing. That would of course be wrong. They need to produce content which equalizes to different demands/wishes. Clothing is one of them. This thread is just suggestions and wishlists. I love deathmatches and wish it could be expanded more yet I love clothing as well. If somebody took it upon themselves to create a thread for male clothing wishlist, I would fully support it, equally as I do in this thread. I do have a second male account which I rarely use but male clothing could be expanded as well.

"I am against an update PRIMARILY on clothing for PRIMARILY FEMALES."

Saying that means you are against the high life update, because the high lift update released clothing for males and no clothing for females. That is the one and only update to exclude one gender out of new content in the clothing department. If you are against one for primarily females then you must be against one primarily for males. Otherwise, morally you would be wrong.

I apologize for the weird white backing, I don't know what to do to get rid of it. Sorry!

Edited April 5, 2016 by Miss-RI95

[Azirah]

The thread was going great until..... - Who cares if GTA isn't the sims. It isn't COD but yet, all R* does is add Adversary modes no one cares about or plays a week after it comes out. Sure, women have more clothes than males but the clothing options for women in this game are just straight up UGLY. The only decent clothing IMO is the leather pants and the short shorts (not denim). With a male character, there's endless amounts of things you can match. So, uhhhh. Come again?

[Guest]

Pervert confirmed^

[Azirah]

Pervert confirmed^

I really hope ur not referring to me, lmao. Far from it.

[Quinn_flower]

lol sigh that's all I have to say.

 

Also your not ruining what we created here as a community very rare u see this.

 

I will get a mod in here if I need to. This isn't xxx needs to stop.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Quinn_flower

[RustyShackleford]

 

 

 

 

 

Let me respond with BOLD inside of the quote.

What about the male side? GTA's clothing STILL FAVOR'S WOMEN.

 

 

Besides, even with the "male" clothing, FEMALE CLOTHING STILL DOMINATES compared to men.

 

Its geared towards the males because they mainly purcha$e the game and will give R$ the $$$. Besides, the MALES GET LESS CLOTHING OPTIONS. This game is NOT shop at the Target, F21, Abercrombie, American Eagle, or whatever clothing shops are in. Ain't nobody got time to focus on fashion when the BULK of the gamer$ play for reasons other than clothing. Besides, our systems can only hold so much space.

 

GTA Online is NOT a fashion simulator. Try Sims for that.

 

First three quotes contradict themselves. You can't say Rockstar favour women in clothes then later on claim that they are geared to males.

 

No they don't contradict themselves. The first quote was stating that FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE, the second quote says that even if you add male clothing, FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE, and the third quote says that FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE. Seems pretty consistent to me. Female clothes in current GTA > Male clothing in GTA (even with support). GTA IS geared towards males, but R$ can still have a 60-40% ratio of female to male clothes. The GAME is marketed primarily for men, HOWEVER the clothing still favors females. We can still market a game for men, but have the GTAO clothing favor females.

 

Where is the logic in that?

 

In your 3rd quote which I'll insert here: "Ain't nobody got time to focus on fashion when the BULK of the gamer$ play for reasons other than clothing. Besides, our systems can only hold so much space."

 

Yeah, this is invalid hun'. Yes they do have different areas of the game such as missions, deathmatches, cars and many more. But that is why Rockstar can afford to hire a lot of people to work on these different areas, therefore making time for them to create items including clothes.

 

No, its NOT invalid. It costs money to make updates and we have to proportionate what the people want. A small number want clothes, so we divvy up a small percent of a DLC with clothing. Besides if R$ doesn't see $$$, they won't waste the $$$ on new hires. Businesses want $$$ and if they don't see $$$, they won't waste $$$. It will p*ss off the shareholders and upper management. Saving $$$ makes you look good in front of upper management.

 

Now finally for a big rant. Yes, we all acknowledge that this isn't a fashion simulator, so using the "Go play Sims" is irrelevant because 1. it takes effort to find a nice outfit then which is why people turn to custom content. Gosh people. 2. The loading times kill to change outfits everyday. 3. Sims includes other skills of interior design which are hugely part of Sims. This means...SIMS ISN'T JUST FASHION PEOPLE. STOP USING SIMS AS AN ARGUMENT POINT BECAUSE IT IS IRRELEVANT.

 

Clothing actually plays a big part in GTA V Online seeing as you wear them all the time. So it will forever continue to be produced in GTA V Online. So this thread is just advice with a side of bitching of what we want to see in GTA V Online ~ In the fashion side.

 

No one is denying clothing is a part of GTA online. What I am saying is that clothing, when compared to the rest of GTA is MINOR. If clothing is "big", the bulk of what makes GTA, GTA (shooting, violence, cars, money, missions, etc), is WAY BIGGER. Besides, you will still get some female clothing and/or accessories in future DLC's.

 

Why is it there is different concept ideas with threads and ideas, yet when we have one just solely for female clothing with ideas, concepts and input from many forum members of all genders but some people just want to shift us of the apparent game we should play for fashion (Sims).

 

Because the GTA world doesn't soley revolve around you. Its not like R$ won't give you ANY clothes, R$ shouldn't focus most of their resources primarily on clothing.

 

I want to slay people while looking good not looking like I dressed in the dark.

 

I want my character to wear a box of Booty-O's cereal while hip swiveling over his victims.

 

I'm not some asshat who hates X, I just don't like the idea of PRIMARILY FOCUSING on female clothing in GTAO. I'm not against SOME clothing, I am against an update PRIMARILY on clothing for PRIMARILY FEMALES. Besides, we don't get frequent updates because it takes a LONG time to make content and R* won't hire new people for updates. R* is on limited resources. They aren't making as much money as when GTA came out. R$ (hopefully) got their $$$ from the launch day sales. Now they live off of $hark card$ because GTA is now either on clearance or sold in the secondary market.

 

 

 

Hi again.

 

Its great to debate you again . As you will find out in my final few paragraphs why.

 

"No they don't contradict themselves. The first quote was stating that FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE, the second quote says that even if you add male clothing, FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE, and the third quote says that FEMALE CLOTHES DOMINATE. Seems pretty consistent to me. Female clothes in current GTA > Male clothing in GTA (even with support). GTA IS geared towards males, but R$ can still have a 60-40% ratio of female to male clothes. The GAME is marketed primarily for men, HOWEVER the clothing still favors females. We can still market a game for men, but have the GTAO clothing favor females."

 

I don't see how you can say that female clothing dominates male clothing without counting them and giving a proper statistic to support your point. It isn't consistent either considering you have no statistic to back it up. Now I did try and count it up for you and for my interest but unfortunately it is 23:08 (11:08PM) and I am half asleep. I did however go onto GTAWikia website and went on the clothing. It however doesn't show a full list of clothing for both genders. Saying GTA is geared towards male implies that everything under it is - including clothing.

 

Even if there was more female clothing, do you actually think most of it is wearable outside on the streets? Some of them don't look good, some of them just don't look right. Some are okay to wear. Everyone has their own preferences to clothing though. Not everyone wants to dress in red lace underwear just like not everyone wants a Progen T20.

 

Hopefully someone counts the clothing or makes a video showing the male to female clothing comparison. Males also have ridiculous and ugly clothing too. Like the cheetah print underwear track shorts.

 

"No, its NOT invalid. It costs money to make updates and we have to proportionate what the people want. A small number want clothes, so we divvy up a small percent of a DLC with clothing. Besides if R$ doesn't see $$$, they won't waste the $$$ on new hires. Businesses want $$$ and if they don't see $$$, they won't waste $$$. It will p*ss off the shareholders and upper management. Saving $$$ makes you look good in front of upper management."

 

And also producing "$$$" or "£££" or any other currency is also seen as "good in front of upper management". Meaning they'd need to please people into actually getting that money in. They won't be seeing "$$$" if it isn't meeting the demand/preferences of what people want because it would then become a surplus amount of items which nobody wants to purchase due to it not meeting the target markets preference. They wouldn't be hiring people anyway, unless someone of the team leaves then they MAY need to replace them.

 

"Businesses want $$$ and if they don't see $$$, they won't waste $$$."

 

Actually if the businesses aren't gaining enough income, they change their route and plan into actually getting money not abandoning everything and losing it by not wasting money. Yes they won't use ALL of the money but they will spend a reasonable amount by investing it correctly to get money back into the business or corporation.

 

"It costs money to make updates"

 

Yes, I am aware it does cost money to make updates but how are Rockstar or any other company going to recuperate the costs? By pleasing the gamers and target markets into purchasing the items. This then funds for the DLC, wages, bills, future DLC's and many others. It is and endless cycle which brings in an income which also covers the expenditure and leaves a surplus amount of cash for investment and saving.

 

R$ is PRETTY GOOD on income. Let's say R$ DOES hire a fashion team. They will still have to pay salaries and all that. R$ may not make a profit somehow off of updates. I just don't think that people will buy shark cards for dresses and whatnot, but people WOULD buy $harkcards for yachts, T20's and other expensive items. The $$$ spent on $harkcards for expensive focal DLC points will help recover R$'s costs.

 

"No one is denying clothing is a part of GTA online. What I am saying is that clothing, when compared to the rest of GTA is MINOR. If clothing is "big", the bulk of what makes GTA, GTA (shooting, violence, cars, money, missions, etc), is WAY BIGGER. Besides, you will still get some female clothing and/or accessories in future DLC's."

I don't disagree with you in the first part, yes clothing is minor compared to the main aspects of GTA V as a whole. However, clothing does somehow link back to all of these, it is like glue, it keeps it all together. (Depending on how you view clothing in GTA V.)

Now the second part is debateable. We can't foresee if Rockstar will give an update and not give any new female clothing ~ or vice versa. But bringing back to my point of is the clothing actually, fashionable? Wearable in the streets? Appropriate?

A LOT of the clothes is wearable in the streets (both men and women). And appropriate is subjective. Appropriate as in fashionable or school/work appropriate? Some of the language T-shirts may not be appropriate for work/school, whereas some clothing may not be appropriate for fashion. Besides, the things that you see in fashion shows (the OUTRAGEOUS looking dresses) probably won't be bought.

"Because the GTA world doesn't soley revolve around you."

I am fully aware it doesn't and never gave any inference/indication or me even directly saying it did? So the sarcastic/snarky comment was totally unneeded.

 

I got that vibe because of the OP was wanting an all out clothing DLC.

 

Its not like R$ won't give you ANY clothes, R$ shouldn't focus most of their resources primarily on clothing."

 

We know they won't stop giving us clothes, but the whole point of this thread is for suggesting clothing which would like to see in these updates. Where we will be happy with these different clothing. Take a look at the whole 19 pages of these threads. There is a whole diverse range of clothes we would like to see in GTA V. Some of us may not like what someone else wants. It doesn't matter though as it all comes down to preference. I'm not a huge fan of high heeled sneakers (don't hate on me for it) but I was happy that other people out there got what they wanted. Including someone in this thread!

Rockstars resources aren't limited either. They do have the money, not like how you are making them out to have $1500 and that is it. They are gaining an income as well as producing content. I would say as an opinion that they are steady.

 

I'm all for clothing suggestions, NOT as a major update, like what I think the ORIGINAL POSTER of the forums wants.

 

"I want my character to wear a box of Booty-O's cereal while hip swiveling over his victims."

 

Each to their own. Like I said, it comes down to preference hun'. I would rather wear dresses or high waisted clothing.

 

"I'm not some asshat who hates X, I just don't like the idea of PRIMARILY FOCUSING on female clothing in GTAO. I'm not against SOME clothing, I am against an update PRIMARILY on clothing for PRIMARILY FEMALES. Besides, we don't get frequent updates because it takes a LONG time to make content and R* won't hire new people for updates. R* is on limited resources. They aren't making as much money as when GTA came out. R$ (hopefully) got their $$$ from the launch day sales. Now they live off of $hark card$ because GTA is now either on clearance or sold in the secondary market."

We haven't stated that Rockstar should drop everything they are producing and only produce clothing. That would of course be wrong. They need to produce content which equalizes to different demands/wishes. Clothing is one of them. This thread is just suggestions and wishlists. I love deathmatches and wish it could be expanded more yet I love clothing as well. If somebody took it upon themselves to create a thread for male clothing wishlist, I would fully support it, equally as I do in this thread. I do have a second male account which I rarely use but male clothing could be expanded as well.

"I am against an update PRIMARILY on clothing for PRIMARILY FEMALES."

Saying that means you are against the high life update, because the high lift update released clothing for males and no clothing for females. That is the one and only update to exclude one gender out of new content in the clothing department. If you are against one for primarily females then you must be against one primarily for males. Otherwise, morally you would be wrong.

Even with this update, the females still had more options than the men currently.

I apologize for the weird white backing, I don't know what to do to get rid of it. Sorry!

I am italicizing my arguments and made them green in this wall of text. Hopefully that helps.

You also said that you were half asleep, so I will assume that you may not be reading this at the same time that I am on. I am having fun discussing our opinions and I THANK YOU for debating reasonable with me and NOT name calling, derailing the discussion with pictures, dismissing arguments as "BS" without responding why, and other nonsense.

 

Again, THANKS for debating me face to face without being dismissive of my arguments WITHOUT providing counter arguments.

 

I don't think that the debate will be over completely... Just on a pause.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can rephrase your BS as much as you want; it's still BS.

 

Just a thinly veiled attack on the thread mixed with the usual "go play the sims" rubbish.

 

And for your information, I'm actually not a woman. I just don't allow this to make me biased. Plus I just happen to like women, and I hope they get what they want.

 

If you're not a troll, and you really want to debate this in a logical way, then go back to the drawing board and stop posting toxic walls of text. Also turn the caps lock off.

 

Part of why I support this topic is because the people here are civil. You're upsetting that civility.

 

 

(I comment on the "BS" at the end)

 

 

 

 

 

PLEASE use actual facts and figures, NOT memes and pictures trying to attract an emotion. I'll get more on the "civility" towards the end.

 

People still use the "its not X its GTA" argument ? You should know by now it has no weight whatsoever no matter the subject.

 

The thing we spend the most of our time watching is our characters, so wanting them to look the way we want is extremely important. Asking in a constructive manner for more options is a legitimate request.

 

Some love to look like half naked clowns, others like being COD wannabes, theres is nothing wrong with that.

But i play a female and i want her to look like a woman i could meet in the street, with a variety of clothing i like to see on IRL women and are not currently in the game.

Whatever the haters can say about it, this thread must carry on until it gets adressed.

Because it goes way beyond asking for for more customizition. Its about aknowledging what ( for the most part ) the females players community wants and treating them as equal from the males players community. You can't give a gender a better treatment than the other, and this goes inside and outside the game.

 

I know that you can't give genders better treatment than the other, BUT in business it happens. Example - Fashion industries favor WOMEN than men. The gaming industry favors MEN than women. Why? Because those people give the industry the bulk of the $$$. So they will focus on their target market.

 

I've generated MORE arguments than just the "sims" argument.

 

 

 

 

 

You can rephrase your BS as much as you want; it's still BS.

 

Just a thinly veiled attack on the thread mixed with the usual "go play the sims" rubbish.

 

And for your information, I'm actually not a woman. I just don't allow this to make me biased. Plus I just happen to like women, and I hope they get what they want.

 

If you're not a troll, and you really want to debate this in a logical way, then go back to the drawing board and stop posting toxic walls of text. Also turn the caps lock off.

 

Part of why I support this topic is because the people here are civil. You're upsetting that civility.

 

 

Please state WHY you think the argument is "BS." You are just simply dismissing the arguments stated withOUT providing backings of you own. I post the "toxic" walls of text so that I can respond to them and so people know what I am responding TO. I am being civil. I am attacking the arguments, NOT the person, I DON'T call other people's opinion's "BS," I don't name call, and I don't post memes and pictures (unless they are graphs with statistical numbers).

 

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Be like MISS-RI95. Although we have differing opinions, we don't name call, we don't post pictures with the intent to derail discussion. The discussion between me and her is CIVIL and respectful. There has been NO name calling or any personal attacks. The discussion and arguments between me and RI95 shows that we can debate within a topic without derailing the topic with "memes."

 

If you are in court (whether prosecution OR defense), you can't show a picture of COD or the older Asian man and expect them to take you seriously. You can't say the state's or defense's evidence is simply "BS" without offering a countnerpoint. The judge would laugh you out of the courtroom.

Edited April 5, 2016 by RustyShackleford

[xDatxJunkyx]

Someone call a mod or something, he's tainting this chat with his insolence and bright green typing.

 

You're admonished!

[Hunter]

 

 

"Be like MISS-RI95." I think you'll find me and her are on the same page in this thread.

 

Your argument is BS because there's really nothing to argue about. This is a thread that asks for more advanced clothing/customization options, and has many suggestions/contributions. It is not a debate on whether or not this should happen.

 

And as for you not name calling, well you keep belittling the people here by telling them to go play the sims, and that it's not meant to be a fashion show, etc. Your "argument" really is just a thinly veiled attack on the people here, and on the things they want.

 

Why shouldn't there be an update focusing on clothes? Why shouldn't people ask for one and make suggestions? And why is it such a terrible crime, in your eyes, that women should have more clothes than men? I mean, really?

 

And actually, I went through all your points in a very reasonable manner. Then you simply reworded them. I'm not going to do a whole big back and forth thing on points I've already countered.

 

Just stop derailing this thread anyway. We get it - you don't like the idea. So move on, and let the many people who do discuss stuff.

Edited April 6, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[Jerking For Soup]

To the guy telling these guys to go play the Sims, I'm not going to hate on you, I'm pretty sure I've said things like that in the past too, but I will tell you what I realised about this whole thing.

 

What I realised was that, players will want more clothing and more useless stuff however it seems to you, however, you must not argue with what people like and what they want. Sure you think they should go and play a life simulator game because they supposedly moan about more clothing, but, that's the beauty of this thread, once you go change genders or create another character in the character selection screen, and you find out there's nothing but slutty bullsh*t to wear, notice the ignorance you exposed of yourself when you posted.

 

Once again, everybody wants something that's Alien to the game. Hell, I want Knights Steel Plated Armor and a Steel Sword and a horse, yet, I could go and play Skyrim if I wanted that. Many users like Call Of Duty and military clothing in the game, and I won't judge them for that. You probably want something from another source in the game, be it Call Of Duty, or another game, and if you asked what you wanted, would you like me to comment on you, telling you to go play Call Of Duty or the Sims? No, because you know what you would like and what you would not.

 

I agree with this thread now mostly because I have experienced playing a female character now.

 

Hope I enlightened you to see the error of your posts and the hypocrisy of them.

 

I still want that Hospitaller Knight Armor.

[Miss-RI95]

 

 

 

 

 

To be honest as much as I like to argue. I think it should end here. I and many people here want to return back to the thread of giving our ideas out instead of just endless and pointless arguing. This thread was seriously and legitimately a peaceful and serene thread in the middle of the forums.

 

I will however summarize everything in this post in many bullet points. After this, I would like this arguing because it isn't going to any of us anywhere. I don't want to force my opinion onto anyone else or for them to force their opinion on me.

 

1. Evidently in this forum, we haven't point blank said. Create a DLC only for us females. It would be wrong to do that and we do understand that Rockstar does also need to please other groups in GTA V.

 

2. We understand they can't just give us clothing out of the blue with no storyline or theme. However in the Executive and Other Criminals update, there was opportunity to give out fashionable dresses.

 

3. When we say fashionable it means modern and up to date. Not like the Valentines and Hipster dresses. They are more...vintage then modern.

 

4. Rockstar don't even have to hire a fashion team. They can just research retail shops which are popular. Ie. Forever 21, Topshop and Urban Outfitters. These stores all have online websites and stores for the Rockstar clothing department to go into or search online and steal a few ideas. They are forever updated with new clothes and feature a diverse range of items. This is free of charge and doesn't waste the money which you seem to be worried about. Doing this maintains salaries which are still ongoing and also keeps us happy. Rockstar practically copies brands and companies anyway for example Swallow being Hollister and even selling Swallow Clothing, Hinterland being Timberland. They don't even have to have a brand name for the clothing, just the design!

 

5. When we say appropriate we basically mean: Not dressed like a stripper or a hooker. Not being dressed with just gangster clothing. Something which our perception of normal is. Cheetah print reminds me of what the hookers wear. The bustiers is what the strippers wear. The stockings, again strippers wearing. All these baggy clothing and all of these gang type of clothing, is under the gangster clothing. Not everyone wants to dress like a gangster so there should be a diverse range of clothing. They have done the lingerie clothing and explored the gangster clothing. Now it could be time for nightlife clothing ALSO with nightlife content such as nightclubs and casual bars.

 

6. Again there is no statistic or evidence of the amount of clothing for each gender. Therefore your point of "female still had more clothes than males" shouldn't be discussed because you have no evidence to back it up other than assumption and sometimes, assumption can be wrong.

 

7. Of course clothing is going to be side part of each DLC, with the main things being the Yachts and homes etc. but the clothing is never actually good looking. Leggings look like they are leather. It fits the biker purpose more than the actual hipster look. Those leggings are all leather. Sunset leggings, I bought a pair to see how it looks and I haven't touched it since. I find my self repeatedly wearing the same clothing over and over again, it just isn't fun anymore as I feel as if I have lost the variety which I thought I once had but looking at it properly made me more aware that the clothes just are plain ugly. I don't wear tactical gear and I don't wear baggy clothing. I just find it boring that I have to repeatedly look at the same outfit and don't have many options to my taste to wear. They just don't suit how I want my character to be. In the Executive and Other Criminals update trailer they showed so many items like dresses and heels and I was so excited for them to placed in the game, then it came crashing down when I found out that it was just bikinis, loungewear and pajamas. It had so much potential and the ability to explore so many different aspects in clothing to suit the fancy and rich lifestyle.

 

Finally, in my opinion I think that your comparison of peoples style of writing/response to my type of writing/response is severely inappropriate. Everyone within this thread carries different preferences for style, fashions sense and writing. I know Icantthinkofonew desires and desperately needs his attack helicopter (I hope he does get it!), and you may be thinking what has this got to do with anything, but you need to look at this with deeper insight, it reflects that everyone has their own way in responding/reacting to something. We all are diverse and that is why we turn to this thread to express our different desires regarding female clothing. We want feedback and input by others to achieve the ultimate wish from us males and females. Take a look on the forum, we have different genders, different wishes and we all are civilized even though we may be different. So by saying that these people are not civil is wrong because we have 19 pages here filled with people being civil among each other. If someone wants to reply with a meme and gif then so be it, let it happen. You can't expect everyone to be the same otherwise this entire world would be boring! They way everyone responded is civil in my eyes, although your perception may differ, I still see it all as civil. No-one was threatening you with murder and no-one was severely name calling you or practically bullying you. If you view what they said as uncivil then I should see your slightly offensive and rude comment of the "Because the whole world doesn't revolve around you" as uncivil. This was directly said to me and it comes across and hurtful to people, even though frankly I don't care because this false accusation is pathetic a mon avis.

 

It is the beauty of GTA V Online, that we all are different here with a huge diverse community.

 

Now I wish to rest my argument from here onward because it is getting pathetic. There is no point really because it isn't getting either side anywhere. I have an entire sticky note filled with ideas which I haven't posted because I've just sat here typing essays basically.

 

If you don't like the ideas which we contain, or the concept of this thread, then simply avoid it. We aren't holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read it. It is a choice taken into your hands giving you the authority and power over the actions you take.

 

Take care, I wish you the best, now good bye from me.

Edited April 6, 2016 by Miss-RI95

[Miss-RI95]

So with summer coming up (In the northern hemisphere), I decided in real life I'd go shopping to look for new clothes. And suddenly it hit me in the middle of Topshop.

 

 

We don't have many one colour items! Like you could do so much with just having one full colour on an item of clothing. Having one colour looks good as well and allow you to mix and match with other colours as well. There is so many colours to choose as well ranging from pastel to dark to neon. I dislike having logos on my clothing both in real life and in the game of GTA V Online because it sometimes makes the outfit too busy looking. I prefer plain but bringing it out with different designs of specific items.

 

 

 

Look at the crop top and skirt, they have one colour and doesn't have any design or other colours on it. It is plain and simple.

 

Also that clutch though.

[Wurmy]

*snip*

Yes we need more one colored stuff, a lot of the prints and designs on most of the tops just looks stupid, at least we got a black, white and grey shirt.

[Jerking For Soup]

I think we need more suits, belt options, more Jean pants, more fur jackets, more cowboy hats and of course, Knight Armor.

 

 

*snip*

 

Yes we need more one colored stuff, a lot of the prints and designs on most of the tops just looks stupid, at least we got a black, white and grey shirt.

Rockstar wouldn't release a piece of clothing without their glorious trademark stamp on it. I like the idea, I just can't see Rockstar ever selling clothing that is plain and simple.

 

They could make sell it plain and with numerous designs on other variations of it like they do nearly everything else in the game.

 

I want more vests, hopefully ones that have inventory pockets and have that ripped worn feeling. Possibly in a Wild West update?

[Hunter]

How about a clothing creator?

 

We already have a deathmatch/capture/race creator. Obviously clothes would probably be more complicated, but it might be possible. It might have to be PC exclusive, but even then it could benefit console players - I mean, the top things could get verified just like jobs do, and could then be added to consoles too.

[REXX]

How about a clothing creator?

 

We already have a deathmatch/capture/race creator. Obviously clothes would probably be more complicated, but it might be possible. It might have to be PC exclusive, but even then it could benefit console players - I mean, the top things could get verified just like jobs do, and could then be added to consoles too.

I'd buy a gaming PC just for this!

[Jerking For Soup]

Yep. But add a filter to make sure the clothing creator workshop doesn't become "nude girls panties mod made by KIllaPsycho213" like Skyrim mods are.

 

However, I would enjoy a clothing creator. My fantasies will become true. I'd be the female equivalent of John Marston and the male equivalent of Kill Bill.

[AccountNoLongerUsed]

Also, i want to be able to wear a pinestripe suit as my female character.

[CUTS3R]

@Icantthinkofonew

"How about a clothing creator?"

APB customization

( I think we mentioned it before, not sure )

[Wurmy]

Yep. But add a filter to make sure the clothing creator workshop doesn't become "nude girls panties mod made by KIllaPsycho213" like Skyrim mods are.

 

However, I would enjoy a clothing creator. My fantasies will become true. I'd be the female equivalent of John Marston and the male equivalent of Kill Bill.

If there would be a creator then 99% of it would be crap or overly slutty/sexy stuff, just like Skyrim, no matter the filters.