Dear r* (regarding overall female clothing choices)

[Jamwes]

10 minutes ago, lost-in-emotions said:

 

Smart Shoes ?!

 

It's what they call dress shoes. Leather oxfords. Was only three before, but they added a bunch of new ones in this update. 

[Mexicola9302]

Having another Hooker outfit is sweet.

 

[Commander S]

11 hours ago, HamwithCheese said:

Does rdr2 only use two bodies between all PCs and NPCs? Idk if gta6 goes down the Bethesda route (all NPCs use PC bodies) then the clothing and hair styles could be limitless. Quality could go down but I think it'd be worth it.

 

 

No - it's more like GTAO for the most part. All the major/named characters are entirely handcrafted (with a lot of different body types), as are a lot of prominent NPCs like shopkeepers - the only major instance I can find of using the character creator for NPCs is for the randomly-generated Bounty Hunting targets, which use the faces/settings you get when you hit 'randomise' in the creator. There are probably more I haven't noticed, because unlike GTAO, you also have different builds/physiques - although for the male characters at least, that's just borrowed straight from Arthur in single-player.

 

I know SR2 and the new Saints Row do the 'all regular NPCs are made in the character creator thing', while something like Cyberpunk does it for minor pedestrians (mixed in with bespoke peds that don't use the character creator) - but Cyberpunk also does the RDR2/RDO thing of using items from major story NPCs in the character creator (for instance, you can give V Judy's hairdo and vest top, even though Judy's face is a full-on face scan, not using character creator assets).

 

I'd be more inclined to assume they carry on down the route of GTA V and RDR2, where major characters are bespoke (and with more and more of the story characters using the likenesses of their actors - or at least some kind of reference for the likeness), and only the most generic enemies or background peds using Online character creator assets. I think the difference between Rockstar, and the likes of Volition, BioWare, Bethesda, etc., is that Rockstar still uses specific likenesses for their protagonists, rather than a character creator for single-player - so you get some customisation (hair, clothes, etc.), but not pulling facial features around. And then some of that trickles down to Online characters - which is why the news of a female protagonist in VI is such a big deal, because it means Arthur Morgan-level asset quality (if not better) getting reused for not just male Online characters, but female ones as well this time.

[GeneralDee]

I wonder if Rockstar is aware that females in heels are overlooked when drinking, changing the radio or making a phone call in the casino Penthouse. The heels sink into the floor until she's finished like someone forgot to do the heel animations. It's why when playing with my female character, I end up wearing sneakers more often just to avoid looking at that. But with some outfits, gotta wear heels.

Edited July 28, 2022 by GeneralDee

[Solid Scorpion]

^ I noticed around Arena Wars and in cutscenes since, they started to frame them so that ankles and below are cut out of shot, hiding the wicked witch of the west feet.

 

In other news, someone seems to have got a lil too bit excited over the new leather pants and boots...

[Commander S]

Had a first look at them today: the new mini dress is the standout, but I'm also really rather impressed with the new bracelets. They're really small and fine, and so look like they fit better than some of the older, more oversized wrist accessories. Plus, there are options for both wrists, and you can pair them with watches and the like, too - overall, they're just a step up from past accessories, which is good.

 

The hairdos are ...ehh, I tried the new bob, but only really works if your character has a longer/leaner face. My character has a more round face, and so the hairline looks like it's a bit lopsided, and goes quite far back on one side. Nice to have new styles, obviously, but that one's not a game-changer, personally.

 

And overall, the big limitation I've noticed is that a lot of items are largely one block colour, or one low-res print - it's still not on Saints Row's level, where you get things like sequin textures, metal details on buckles/zips/poppers, different fabric textures, etc. Again, that's just the age of GTAO shining through at this point - RDO already demonstrates that Rockstar is able to do so much more with a more modern game, so that sort of thing just goes on the 'wait and see with GTA VI' pile... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Wastelander (Suzuki)]

4 hours ago, Solid Scorpion said:

^ I noticed around Arena Wars and in cutscenes since, they started to frame them so that ankles and below are cut out of shot, hiding the wicked witch of the west feet.

 

In other news, someone seems to have got a lil too bit excited over the new leather pants and boots...

Those boots work with the Catsuits btw. 

[Solid Scorpion]

I love how they work with jeans and most pants too, but not stockings for some reason?

[TCA]

21 hours ago, GeneralDee said:

I wonder if Rockstar is aware that females in heels are overlooked when drinking, changing the radio or making a phone call in the casino Penthouse. The heels sink into the floor until she's finished like someone forgot to do the heel animations. It's why when playing with my female character, I end up wearing sneakers more often just to avoid looking at that. But with some outfits, gotta wear heels.

That’s been a thing for years now. They just never bothered to correct it.

[TCA]

On 7/26/2022 at 8:19 AM, Jamwes said:

 

Mini dress with stockings looks like you pooped yourself in a mirror...

 

Also, why can't I wear a jacket with the mini dress? 

Hello chocolate trousers.

[ItzBlondy]

I like the new dresses, but can't wear a jacket with the mini, idk if it will be a thing later or not. This clothing menu needs a rework and Stockings should be in assessories, not pants lol

Edited July 30, 2022 by ItzBlondy
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[mrfonzius]

On 7/26/2022 at 2:19 PM, Jamwes said:

 

Mini dress with stockings looks like you pooped yourself in a mirror...

 

Also, why can't I wear a jacket with the mini dress? 

 

I would have guessed you tried to bend over or pick something up.

[Commander S]

On 7/30/2022 at 4:42 AM, ItzBlondy said:

I like the new dresses, but can't wear a jacket with the mini, idk if it will be a thing later or not. This clothing menu needs a rework and Stockings should be in assessories, not pants lol

 

 

On the one hand, dresses + jackets absolutely should and can be a thing. If they're on the same layer as t-shirts or tank tops, then there's nothing that can clip through something like the original leather jackets - the only reason why they wouldn't be able to do that is if someone at Rockstar had the genius idea of putting the new dresses on the same layer as jackets, which ...why, though?

 

As for stockings, that's a more just the limitation of having no 'socks' layer, compared to the likes of SR2/2022, or FH5 - right now, GTAO handles them the same as pants, because they're effectively 'leg swaps', and you're swapping the entire lower half of your character (like a Lego figure). Not really much they can do about that for this game - GTA VI really needs to have socks/stockings as a separate layer, particularly when a smaller studio with fewer people and less money (Volition) managed it back in 2008...

[Bigglo145]

The new bowling shirts we have are the same one trevor can wear in storymode. I just wish we had the same cool patterns he has, the selections and colors we got kinda sucks

[Quinn_flower]

so....that black dress physics huh... im impressed. 

 

R* more things like this and dynamic hair finally......

 

Just work on the animations please it looks like a male skeletal rig. 

 

This is nice for the future.

Edited September 20, 2022 by Quinn_flower

[Bigglo145]

Why are the skinny jeans for men tucked into the sneakers socks? Is there a way to fix this? It looks so dorky

[BringItOn]

Very disappointed in the new dlc clothing. Especially the skirts. They look like oversize male kilts. The new necklaces, bracelets, and sunglasses aren’t bad. When I saw new canvas sneakers I thought that finally we’d be getting hi-tops like the male characters, but no, they were all low tops. Also, the layering issues still haven’t been addressed. 

[Paerindal]

On 7/26/2022 at 2:19 PM, Jamwes said:

 

Mini dress with stockings looks like you pooped yourself in a mirror...

 

Also, why can't I wear a jacket with the mini dress? 

Probably because this dress change the body.

And jacket fits to another body.

It isn't just a texture map. Meshes change.

[NChabb]

Bit disappointed with the update in term of clothing. It's so... tame and lackluster.

 

Love the new jeans and all the new colors, it's good we're getting new canvas colors (incredibly annoyed with lack of hi-top option still), but that's the extend of it. Haven't found a good use for the cartigans or the new skirts (which are extremely baggy)...

 

Oh well. There's always next time. #hopium

Edited December 13, 2022 by NChabb

[Jamwes]

Black jeans that don't have big pink logos on the ass?! Beanies that don't suck?! It may be "normal and lackluster" but it's good enough for me!

 

The only annoying part is that there are no new masks. Why have a luchador character without any new masks?

[Bella Odessa]

4 hours ago, Jamwes said:

Black jeans that don't have big pink logos on the ass?! Beanies that don't suck?! It may be "normal and lackluster" but it's good enough for me!

 

The only annoying part is that there are no new masks. Why have a luchador character without any new masks?

I absolutely LOVE all of the new jeans! Especially all of the blue denim tones; the texture on those pop the most in my opinion. I have yet to test the new beanies on more "flared out hair", but they do contour better to our heads overall.

 

And while we're discussing Luchadora's look, it would have also been nice to get her hair, and her clothing/accessory components. 

Perhaps in part 2?

[ghostsoap01]

I feel underwhelmed this time around. I was hoping for some good hairstyles and more things like the dresses and the sleeveless blouses we got last time. That being said, we've got some really nice jeans, converse, jewelry, and I kinda like the cardigans 

 

I also noticed we can now open the CE dlc party shirts. Has anyone else noticed new layering options?

[Quinn_flower]

i want a report guys and gals 

[NChabb]

2 hours ago, Bella Odessa said:

And while we're discussing Luchadora's look, it would have also been nice to get her hair, and her clothing/accessory components. 

Perhaps in part 2?

 

Patch note mentions a new hairstyle for females, but I didn't really have the time to check. Maybe it's that?

Edit: lmao who am I kidding. Of course it's an ugly buzzcut. Why give us something nice? Expected too much as always:

 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/zl0ayt/female_characters_has_the_new_buzzcut_hairstyle/

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by NChabb

[DeathNyx]

7 minutes ago, NChabb said:

Edit: lmao who am I kidding. Of course it's an ugly buzzcut. Why give us something nice? Expected too much as always:

 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/zl0ayt/female_characters_has_the_new_buzzcut_hairstyle/

 

 

Never have high expectations with R*. 

[Commander S]

New cardigans are quite nice, and go well with some of the more 'lounge around the house' things that got added with The Contract - and I like the texture quality on the new beanies, too.

 

Overall, it's just building on The Contract/Criminal Enterprises, but that's no bad thing - it all makes for good 'outfit fodder', particularly since the devs responsible have started using a consistent set of colours ("emerald", "lavender", "royal blue", etc.) across all items. Outside of just having a general colour palette you can apply to any item (Saints Row 1-4), or just straight up RGB sliders (Saints Row '22), consistent colour selections are a lot better than having five different shades/tones of any given colour that don't match (like so many of the items in the game from launch! ).

 

New hairdo is a bit 'meh', personally, but it's probably going to be exactly what someone wanted, so it's literally better than nothing - and to that end, as long as we're getting one or two per update consistently these days, that's a step up from the bad old days.

 

All that being said, like with everything else, that GTA VI leak does make everything added to current GTAO feel like marking time until VI - there are a few things they could do within the constraints of this current game which'd be welcome, but ...we already know that much better is possible, and would likely solve a lot of the frustrations baked into this game, so it's hard to have strong feelings either way, compared to that underlying sense of "c'mon, Rockstar - drop a teaser already!".

[Quinn_flower]

Oh I can't wait for the clothing in 6. And the animations....

[BringItOn]

I just noticed that some of the original skirts from day one are now missing in the stores. They are still in my wardrobe, just not in the stores. Maybe it’s a glitch, or they needed to remove some to add the new ones. Either way, if you already owned them you should still have them in your inventory.

Edited December 15, 2022 by BringItOn

[Vaporsharky]

Finally some decent black jeans without some god awful logo on the butt!

[Bella Odessa]

I talked mad sh*t about the buzzcut, but I actually like it now lol (pic in spoilers since I already posted it twice elsewhere here)... 

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