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Sonny F

Things GTA V did better than GTA IV

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Sonny F

Ok, so today I've watched that famous video "GTA IV is better than GTA V" highly appreciated in the thread of the same name and I've got something to say for those who pray to the author and the GTA IV itself.



1. You get closer to the people in V and they go away/curse/arrest you (if it was cops).
Bullsh*t. Don't walk RIGHT UP TO the peds and they will be staying/sitting just where they are and you can even talk to them. In GTA IV you can't. Now imagine you're hanging out with your girl/boyfriend in the street when some f*cking freak just gets close to you without a word. What are you going to do? Keep staying like nothing happens, like this man is invisible or something? Oh, and another thing (about the very first scene of this video). Just try to get closer to the cops silently in U.S. some day. Especially if you're well-built, tall male. Good luck with that!

2. 5:56. AGAIN. Imagine, you're a driver, staying at the red light, minding your own business, until some dumbass with a gun comes up pointing his gun at you. I'm 200% sure you will hit the gas and drive the f*ck away from this crazy asshole, or what? Are you serious, YOU WILL OPEN THE DOOR, GET OUT OF YOUR VEHICLE WITH YOUR HANDS UP AND RUN? Lol.

3. 8:49. "Cannot survive explosions", very first try and he... survived! Lol. Stay a little bit further from the nade in V and you'll survive. Just get a little bit closer to the nade in IV and you'll be dead. Actually he proved it himself in this video at 13:28.

4. 12:42. IV has police side missions, V has not.
Well, V has taxi side missions, IV has not.

5. 13:45. So what? We can see that Franklin has "wet animations" too. Nice, calm animations, btw. And Niko acts like a psychopat when it's raining. Like it is acid rain, lol.

6. Yeah, nice, you can enter and buy some food or drinks in Burger Shots and Cluckin Bells in IV. In 5 you can do the same in 24/7 shops. Hospital interior in IV - police station interior in V. What's the problem?

So I guess everyone have seen this video response as well



This video is gorgeous!

Ok, IRL, I've never tried to have a ride staying on the top of the truck or subway train. And, I guess, I'd fall, just like in IV, but cmon guys, it's a game! And in V, we can have fun this way. In IV we can't. 4:26 - ISN'T IT NICE?

So, for those "IV great car handling" fans:
7:19, if you guys think this is great, you probably have never driven a real car.

In the end, when this "We were set up" theme started playing at 8:06 I got CHILLS! Damn, IV fans, you must admit this guy just f*cked you up! But don't get all this wrong, i love both of the games, I have been playing IV for years, just like any other GTA, since the GTA 2. Both IV and V have shortcomings. Bugs. Glitches. But overall, GTA V is better. Much better graphics, much better safehouses, plus cars, characters and weapons customization, so many details, storyline missions are great, better than IV's, more various and interesting than IV's. So when I overcome my FPS drops, V will definitely be my favorite game ever!

gta-v-five-logo-v-only.png

 

EDIT: http://gtaforums.com/topic/841393-things-gta-v-did-better-than-gta-iv/?p=1070033031 - Update to rules on this topic.

 

OK folks, I'm opening this back up; however, the are certain conditions attached to this following a lengthy review of this topic.

- Keep the discussion civil and about the topic at hand.
- Park any fanboy/girl-ism at the door, I mean this forum is for all GTA's not just one, I get your passion, but there is no need to let it overflow
- Keep any grudges you have to yourself, or if you have any issues with someone, keep it to PM and keep it civil
- No off topic posting, ranting, or baiting
- Remember do not confuse opinion for fact, and everyone is entitled to their opinion and you don't have to agree with it, but if you disagree then provide clear reasons for your opinions or disagreements without resorting to antagonism, baiting or flaming.

Now, the rationale for having to highlight this and remind people of this is that following a review of this topic there seems to be this never ending Möbius strip of endless arguments, baiting and flaming, and this has to stop. "Not again! The line must be drawn here! This far, no further!" - Captain Jean Luc Picard, 5 April 2063.

IMPORTANT: Any failure of the above rules not being adhered to and this turning into another circular argument will result in the permanent locking of this topic (which would upset Sonny F). And any subsequent topics of a similar nature will be locked up as it would be clear that differences between two games from the same universe by the same publisher cannot be discussed in a civil manner.

Edited by Crokey

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Algonquin Assassin

 

 

4. 12:42. IV has police side missions, V has not.

Well, V has taxi side missions, IV has not.

 

 

 

 

 

GTA IV does. Niko can do taxi fares for Roman.;)

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Vinewood Villain

3. 8:49. "Cannot survive explosions", very first try and he... survived! Lol. Stay a little bit further from the nade in V and you'll survive. Just get a little bit closer to the nade in IV and you'll be dead. Actually he proved it himself in this video at 13:28.

 

 

Thing about GTA IV is that there's a concussion wave from explosions. As long as you're not too close to the explosion, you won't die but rather fall back in a ragdoll state. I think everyone can agree that's a lot more convenient (and immersive) than instantly dying. I seems that GTA V has an explosion radius and if you're 1mm too close it's instant death for the player.

 

Both games have their perks, but to me GTA IV was a lot more impressive for its time. I prefer the more dense, grounded environment Liberty City pulled off.

 

Also, the top video has way more views and a far better like/dislike ratio. I guess the whole "the predecessor is better than the sequel!" sentiment between GTA IV and GTA V is beginning to trend on Youtube.

Edited by Vinewood Villain

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Sonny F

 

 

 

4. 12:42. IV has police side missions, V has not.

Well, V has taxi side missions, IV has not.

 

 

 

 

 

GTA IV does. Niko can do taxi fares for Roman. ;)

 

It's bullsh*t, not a taxi missions. Just be honest. V's taxi driver is classic GTA taxi driver, just like it was in III, VC and SA. In IV, it is not even a taxi car.

;)

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Osho

Best PC version

Amazing mod variety

Massive map with a lot of variety

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VenomsnakeVII

It's not about being realistic. For f*cks sake it's a game. i want to have fun not look at how pretty it is. storyline and great don't go good together in this game. it's either the trevor shouting simulator or fib bitches part 2. IV was better bro look at the facts.

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theGTAking101

Here's a thread that's already made, I'll just re-post my points from that.

 

- You can talk to peds

- Radio wheel

- Car customization
- Weapon customization
- Vehicle variety
- Weapon variety
- Character movements & cover system
- Snapmatic
- Countryside
- More things to spend money on (although there still isn't much)
- Animals
- Underwater
- Barber shops
- More clothing options
- Ragdoll button
- Ability to run/enter vehicles while on the phone (most annoying thing in IV)

 

I still prefer IV, but here are some things I like better in V.

Edited by theGTAking101

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VenomsnakeVII

Here's a thread that's already made, I'll just re-post my points from that.

 

- V has better character movements(Online)

- You can talk to peds(V)

- Radio wheel(V)

- Car customization(Online)

- Weapon customization(Online)

- Vehicle variety(Online)

- Weapon variety(Online)

- Character movements & cover system

- Snapmatic(Online)

- Countryside(who cares)

- More things to spend money on (although there still isn't much)(Online)

- Animals(V)

- Underwater(Sucks)

- Barber shops(Online)

- More clothing options(Online majorly)

- Ragdoll button(Saints row)

- Ability to run/enter vehicles while on the phone (most annoying thing in IV)(Online\V)

 

I still prefer V, but here are some things I like better in IV.

Fixed it for you brother

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CarlitoDorito

Im not sure this will go well. Blood will boil here sir.

 

The water - Niko is a slow swimmer. I hated having to swim any further than about 2ft in IV. I quite like it in V because it's like the ocean and not a giant pool of oil. There's life and it's not all exactly the same. I like the way characters clothes get wet, how everything looks wet in a storm. If you drive through a stream the vehicle will pull water out of the stream. Nice details.

 

I don't play it for the water and water doesn't effect my opinion of either game.

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theGTAking101

 

Here's a thread that's already made, I'll just re-post my points from that.

 

- V has better character movements(Online)

- You can talk to peds(V)

- Radio wheel(V)

- Car customization(Online)

- Weapon customization(Online)

- Vehicle variety(Online)

- Weapon variety(Online)

- Character movements & cover system

- Snapmatic(Online)

- Countryside(who cares)

- More things to spend money on (although there still isn't much)(Online)

- Animals(V)

- Underwater(Sucks)

- Barber shops(Online)

- More clothing options(Online majorly)

- Ragdoll button(Saints row)

- Ability to run/enter vehicles while on the phone (most annoying thing in IV)(Online\V)

 

I still prefer V, but here are some things I like better in IV.

Fixed it for you brother

 

Nah, I could write a longer list in the IV thread. My opinion remains the same.

Edited by theGTAking101

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Sonny F

 

Here's a thread that's already made, I'll just re-post my points from that.

 

- V has better character movements(Online)

- You can talk to peds(V)

- Radio wheel(V)

- Car customization(Online)

- Weapon customization(Online)

- Vehicle variety(Online)

- Weapon variety(Online)

- Character movements & cover system

- Snapmatic(Online)

- Countryside(who cares)

- More things to spend money on (although there still isn't much)(Online)

- Animals(V)

- Underwater(Sucks)

- Barber shops(Online)

- More clothing options(Online majorly)

- Ragdoll button(Saints row)

- Ability to run/enter vehicles while on the phone (most annoying thing in IV)(Online\V)

 

I still prefer V, but here are some things I like better in IV.

Fixed it for you brother

 

You aint fix anything, you can customize cars, weapons and characters in singleplayer very well. And the underwater doesn't suck, it's pretty nice, realistic and interesting to explore, well, IV doesn't have it at all.

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Cheatz/Trickz

The GTA IV video is 17 minutes, the GTA V one is only 9 and half minutes.

 

LOL.

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Algonquin Assassin

 

 

It's bullsh*t, not a taxi missions. Just be honest. V's taxi driver is classic GTA taxi driver, just like it was in III, VC and SA. In IV, it is not even a taxi car.

;)

 

 

Well I guess if they're not taxi missions Niko just picks up random people in a car and gets money for the hell of it. :lol:

 

If anything GTA IV was the first GTA to really legitmise the inclusion of them seeing as Niko does it to help out Roman's business instead of hijacking random taxis off the street. It's ok if you prefer the "classic" approach, but I was just correcting you that's all.;)

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Son of Zeus

 

 

 

 

4. 12:42. IV has police side missions, V has not.

Well, V has taxi side missions, IV has not.

 

 

 

 

GTA IV does. Niko can do taxi fares for Roman. ;)

 

It's bullsh*t, not a taxi missions. Just be honest. V's taxi driver is classic GTA taxi driver, just like it was in III, VC and SA. In IV, it is not even a taxi car.

;)

So, are you trying to say that Taxi missions are better than Police side missions? Really? Edited by Son of Zeus

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Osho

That video about IV being better than V is a joke. Not meant to be taken seriously.

 

V isn't perfect, but one can easily make a video to show IVs imperfections, too, compared to V.

In fact, when it comes to PC, V easily demolishes every claim about IV made in that video.

Also, the game hasn't yet finished complete support from developers end, and all V needs, to make the NG console versions better are a series of patches and fixes.

It may happen at any time when they're done with online, otherwise its too early, to conclude anything.

 

@ topic

 

I enjoy driving around the map more than IV, not a fan of Vs driving mechanics though.

..

No [ insert a name ] - %like and % respect, silly elements attached like in IV when hanging out. This is one of those unrealistic aspect in IV, unlike V which makes it more easy to relate with the feature, making it less annoying.

..

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theGTAking101

 

 

 

It's bullsh*t, not a taxi missions. Just be honest. V's taxi driver is classic GTA taxi driver, just like it was in III, VC and SA. In IV, it is not even a taxi car.

;)

 

 

Well I guess if they're not taxi missions Niko just picks up random people in a car and gets money for the hell of it. :lol:

 

If anything GTA IV was the first GTA to really legitmise the inclusion of them seeing as Niko does it to help out Roman's business instead of hijacking random taxis off the street. It's ok if you prefer the "classic" approach, but I was just correcting you that's all. ;)

 

I agree, I'd rather have a legitimate taxi business than just steal random taxis off the street.

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CarlitoDorito

More expensive things to spend money on. IV had ammo, you spend millions on ammo because it wouldn't save if you went over the limit anyway. Clothes, taxi's, food, weapons, strippers and hookers. Ringtones. Pay and spray. Spending Nikos money after the game was compete was difficult.

 

V has vehicles, vehicle mods, more weapons, ammo, businesses, stocks, clothes, strippers and hookers as well. Not much more to spend money on but things that aren't a dollar. LS customs gives you some choice with your money and you're buying different things. I prefer that.

 

I prefer LS customs to Pay n Spray, skipping the time forward 6 hours for a selection of about 8 colours and a fix is good but I want some choice, just a bit. It's a different place and Niko driving a modded chrome vehicle would be odd. Give me PnS and LCS :p

 

No annoying toll booths.

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Algonquin Assassin

I should probably add what I think GTA V does better..

 

-Graphics

-Customising

-Snapmatic

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Sonny F

 

 

 

 

 

4. 12:42. IV has police side missions, V has not.

Well, V has taxi side missions, IV has not.

 

 

 

 

GTA IV does. Niko can do taxi fares for Roman. ;)

 

It's bullsh*t, not a taxi missions. Just be honest. V's taxi driver is classic GTA taxi driver, just like it was in III, VC and SA. In IV, it is not even a taxi car.

;)

So, are you trying to say that Taxi missions are better than Police side missions? Really?

 

No, but let's be honest again, IV police missions suck. You can't arrest people, then drive them to the police station, no partners, all you can do is just drive to the location of suspects alone and kill them all. I don't consider it interesting and there is nothing about "police" at all. Also, your game will f*cking freeze every time you try to locate suspect who is close to you in Most Wanted missions. Lol

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Osho

Taxi missions are not interesting in IV, as some one rightly pointed out, they are not in the same vein as the classic ones.

Quoting- In IV doing taxi missions isn't required for completion of the game nor it does not bring any achievement or bonus apart of a small amount of money, usually no more than dollars 20-30. It was likely implemented for the sake of the plot early on in the game.

On the other hand in V, taxi missions are handled better, closer to the way the classic taxi rides were.

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ULPaperContact

 

 

 

 

4. 12:42. IV has police side missions, V has not.

Well, V has taxi side missions, IV has not.

 

 

 

 

 

GTA IV does. Niko can do taxi fares for Roman. ;)

 

It's bullsh*t, not a taxi missions. Just be honest. V's taxi driver is classic GTA taxi driver, just like it was in III, VC and SA. In IV, it is not even a taxi car.

;)

 

 

GTA V's taxi driver isn't 'classic'. You wait for them to tell you when there's a fare. It's not an R3 mission.

 

Best PC version

Amazing mod variety

Massive map with a lot of variety

 

First one is true.

Second is debatable.

That's purely opinion.

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Cheatz/Trickz

That video about IV being better than V is a joke. Not meant to be taken seriously.

 

V isn't perfect, but one can easily make a video to show IVs imperfections, too, compared to V.

In fact, when it comes to PC, V easily demolishes every claim about IV made in that video.

Also, the game hasn't yet finished complete support from developers end, and all V needs, to make the NG console versions better are a series of patches and fixes.

It may happen at any time when they're done with online, otherwise its too early, to conclude anything.

 

@ topic

 

I enjoy driving around the map more than IV, not a fan of Vs driving mechanics though.

..

No [ insert a name ] - %like and % respect, silly elements attached like in IV when hanging out. This is one of those unrealistic aspect in IV, unlike V which makes it more easy to relate with the feature, making it less annoying.

..

Yes it's a joke. Just like this V video shows some improvements over IV. Both videos are tongue-in-cheek, it's all good. But, the IV video mainly shows how V took a step backwards, or cut corners in quite a few places. The V video only really shows improvements that come naturally with time and optimisation.

 

I really don't get your hatred of the like and respect system in IV though. I don't see how it's unrealistic, it is just a game mechanic, no different than the in-game stats. The reason you hate it is the reason I like it, and the reason you prefer V's version is the reason I dislike it. Crazy I know!

Edited by Cheatz_N_Trickz

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Big_Smiley

 

 

Here's a thread that's already made, I'll just re-post my points from that.

 

- V has better character movements(Online)

- You can talk to peds(V)

- Radio wheel(V)

- Car customization(Online)

- Weapon customization(Online)

- Vehicle variety(Online)

- Weapon variety(Online)

- Character movements & cover system

- Snapmatic(Online)

- Countryside(who cares)

- More things to spend money on (although there still isn't much)(Online)

- Animals(V)

- Underwater(Sucks)

- Barber shops(Online)

- More clothing options(Online majorly)

- Ragdoll button(Saints row)

- Ability to run/enter vehicles while on the phone (most annoying thing in IV)(Online\V)

 

I still prefer V, but here are some things I like better in IV.

 

Fixed it for you brother

 

You aint fix anything, you can customize cars, weapons and characters in singleplayer very well. And the underwater doesn't suck, it's pretty nice, realistic and interesting to explore, well, IV doesn't have it at all. That was one thing. R* improved the ocean in V by adding some nice detail to it :^: Edited by GTA_The_Series

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Osho

You need to stop walking in my ( or any one for that matter ) shoes Cheatz, and draw any conclusion to what you think are the "reasons one hates/dislikes anything about IV"

Many don't get your hatred of many things in V, too.

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ULPaperContact

 

 

 

Here's a thread that's already made, I'll just re-post my points from that.

 

- V has better character movements(Online)

- You can talk to peds(V)

- Radio wheel(V)

- Car customization(Online)

- Weapon customization(Online)

- Vehicle variety(Online)

- Weapon variety(Online)

- Character movements & cover system

- Snapmatic(Online)

- Countryside(who cares)

- More things to spend money on (although there still isn't much)(Online)

- Animals(V)

- Underwater(Sucks)

- Barber shops(Online)

- More clothing options(Online majorly)

- Ragdoll button(Saints row)

- Ability to run/enter vehicles while on the phone (most annoying thing in IV)(Online\V)

 

I still prefer V, but here are some things I like better in IV.

Fixed it for you brother
You aint fix anything, you can customize cars, weapons and characters in singleplayer very well. And the underwater doesn't suck, it's pretty nice, realistic and interesting to explore, well, IV doesn't have it at all.
That was one thing. R* improved the ocean in V by adding some nice detail to it :^:

 

True, but they made it awful to explore with the crappy sub.

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Cheatz/Trickz

You need to stop walking in my ( or any one for that matter ) shoes Cheatz, and draw any conclusion to what you think are the "reasons one hates/dislikes anything about IV. Many don't get your hatred of many things in V, too.

It's just that you criticise those stats as something that affect the game. Makes no sense, you could completely ignore that if you wished. Problems with V are not that simple, that they can just be ignored.

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Osho

 

You need to stop walking in my ( or any one for that matter ) shoes Cheatz, and draw any conclusion to what you think are the "reasons one hates/dislikes anything about IV. Many don't get your hatred of many things in V, too.

It's just that you criticise those stats as something that affect the game. Makes no sense, you could completely ignore that if you wished. Of course, it affects the system you're interested in engaging for unlocking the rewards that come with, which is what offers the player some variety than doing the same thing in a normal manner. Despite making myself clear in my posts, you are still acting like you can't comprehend simple English, and then you complain in the same respect and logic for many things about V.

You're not making sense, so stop bullsh*tting with the "ignore that" rubbish.

Start with yourself by ignoring many things in V, because it makes sense for others, than how you feel.

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Sonny F

- You can ride various bicycles, with some of them you can do bunny hops.

- You can control various planes.

- No f*cking retards calling every 10 minutes asking me if I wanna go bowling/eating etc.

- Underwater world.

- Nice and real car colors, instead of those ugly and stupid pink/light green Huntleys, Cavalcades etc.

- If Vsync is turned on, you can play with FPS higher than 56.

- You can stop your vehicle at anytime in any place on the road and be 100% sure a stupid driver won't crash it from behind.

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theGTAking101

The friends system in IV isn't even bad. People act like you're forced to go out with them, and if you don't then the like/respect goes down a sh*tton and your life is over.

 

I like that friends actually call you. It feels like they actually exist in the world.

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ULPaperContact

- You can ride various bicycles, with some of them you can do bunny hops.

- You can control various planes.

- No f*cking retards calling every 10 minutes asking me if I wanna go bowling/eating etc.

- Underwater world.

- Nice and real car colors, instead of those ugly and stupid pink/light green Huntleys, Cavalcades etc.

- If Vsync is turned on, you can play with FPS higher than 56.

- You can stop your vehicle at anytime in any place on the road and be 100% sure a stupid driver won't crash it from behind.

-Fair Enough.

-Fair enough.

-You can decline them, you know. But OK.

-Which is horrible to explore due to the sh*tty submarine.

-I never saw any pink/light green huntleys, but fair enough.

-I play on consoles, I wouldn't know.

-Nowhere near true. The traffic in 5 is buggy as hell.

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