Why do people hate jets?

[The Retaliator]

meh, I just shoot them down. I have above average trajectory prediction skills with the RPG and HL. Provided lag doesn't f*ck me lol.

[Hunter]

 

 

There are how many options in "combating" or "dealing with Jets in GTAO?

 

Let's just list some!.........in no particular order of importance.

 

1. Go passive.

 

2. Go get your own jet and destroy them.

 

3. Go to a Invite only lobby.

 

4. Go to a friends only lobby.

 

5. Go to a closed Crew lobby.

 

6. Go to a Solo lobby.

1. Go passive.

2. Go get your own jet and destroy them.

3. Go to a Invite only lobby. That's not a way of fighting a jet; that's avoiding a player in a jet.

4. Go to a friends only lobby. See No.4.

5. Go to a closed Crew lobby. See No.4/5.

6. Go to a Solo lobby. See No.4/5/6.

For one thing, there are actually other ways of fighting jets. For example, you can hole up somewhere and snipe, etc.

That's irrelevant though. Just because something can be technically managed, that doesn't mean it's balanced. I've beaten a Lazer with a Cargobob before - would you say the Cargobob is as dangerous as a Lazer?

My personal feeling is that the homing launcher should absolutely not be buffed (if anything, it needs nerfing), but the jet should be made fast enough that aiming is more difficult. Just like a real jet:

holy sh*t that was cool. the original video?

 

Here it is:

 

 

 

Not very long, but it sounds awesome. Jets really should be like this in my opinion.

 

I wouldn't take on board what childish players like shadow say though.

[shadowoperative]

 

All true players hate jets.

That's simply not true.

In my opinion it is.

[l Marksman God l]

Jet's are too hard to deal with for as easy as they are to spam.

 

You should have to go steal them out of the military base like you used to have to prior to Heists update.

 

All this "lol it's easy to kill jets" bullsh*t has a point, you can take a jet out. But it's not easy, and it's easy as hell to kill people in a jet, and virtually impossible to get away from one, save for passive mode. Nobody gives a hoot about your k/d's which generally come from farming kills on bad players, nobody is gonna pull +3k/d against decent players, on relatively even footing network wise; without basically being an asshole abusing wall-breaches and jets.

 

It's in the game, so I'm not really gonna fault anyone for using it. I exploit whatever I can within the game itself. But I generally only try and grief people I see grief others. And all said and done, if you don't want to get killed by someone just go passive. inb4 someone like xXx_z1_Marksman_Gawd_1z_xXx#420pt!kz feels the need to post that you're all fags if you go passive, and just 'git gud'.

 

Any decent player in a jet is going to be able to easily avoid homing missiles pretty much all day, once you're at speed you simple barrel and hold the aileron down and it'll just trail and blow up behind you. If anyone is seriously trying to suggest than an RPG is a good way to deal with an incoming Hydra, you're an idiot. Heavy snipers work for taking them out, eventually, it's not a quick or safe process; as someone else can simply kill you while you're trying to snipe. Don't forget home boy will be able to call in his next jet, fly over to it, bail, and hop back in a fresh one; switching in and then out of passive. While you flounder on having the damage output to really stunt his havoc. The minigun has limited range, and if you can hit the jet with that, the jet can hit you with cannons, and one of those is a much more destructive weapon than the other, OMGRLLY?.

 

They shouldn't nerf the jets (Lazer/Hydra) in terms of performance, because then nobody would use them over a helicopter. Which griefs pretty damn well too, and is basically countered by homing missiles. They should just make them less freely available. I don't think calling Pegasus and getting a Hydra ever 2 minutes or whatever the cooldown on that is, is sensible. Especially since the 3mil pricetag on it is basically pointless with money being a joke on PC.

You are right in some points, but if a jet is flying low, it is not hard at all to RPG, but when he is a good pilot the sniper might be the best option, but I 100% agree with the Hydra thing, I'm a pilot but I don't get jet after jet, I hate people that do that, Pegasus should have a 30 min timer to get another Hydra, so if people want to get another jet, they have to go to Zancudo. And i kinda agree with the passive thing, if you don't like jets just go passive and don't complain about it, just like I do when i fight suicide tryhards, I go passive and leave.

[teagle]

 

 

All true players hate jets.

That's simply not true.

In my opinion it is.

You must have missed the lesson in persuasive writing where you don't make blanket statements about opinions, while presenting them as facts.

[Aether]

Not responding to anyone directly.

 

Realizing something after looking at the topic title again...

 

 

This thread isn't(or shouldn't be) about the people that fly aircraft in GTA. This thread is about the players who hate pilots.

 

I'm going to go ahead and conclude for myself that the players that complain about pilots are the people that antagonize and ridicule them in the first place. We don't just randomly decide to go after one person just out of the blue, we are human after all.

 

So if you're complaining about us pilots, somehow or another its because you're actions brought consequences that your salty about. It is not our problem that you're an ass. I can't count how many times someone has sent me a text in game calling me a jet noob when it was in fact it was them who started the altercation.

 

 

This topic is just like the ones regarding the hate of marksmen rifles and easy way out. If someone hates it, they provoked their scenarios to occur all on their own.

 

Most of my pilot buddies are really nice and reasonable people so at first I couldn't understand what the problem really was. Its in the topic title haha.

 

In game, just like life you get what you deserve.

Edited April 2, 2016 by Tempest

[Hunter]

 

 

In my opinion it is.

You must have missed the lesson in persuasive writing where you don't make blanket statements about opinions, while presenting them as facts.

 

He's a clown; I wouldn't bother listening to him.

 

He really doesn't do a good job of representing ground players' interest - only a few, including Nutduster, do that.

[GTA_dog]

If you can't fight on the ground, you're a pussy blowing people up. Especially if you have a homing launcher locked on you and you have to loop away to escape death. That's just you running away from a fight so you can get a cheap shot later.

 

You're offended by this? You're a lil bish. Get good and fight me on the ground.

[shadowoperative]

 

 

 

All true players hate jets.

That's simply not true.

In my opinion it is.You must have missed the lesson in persuasive writing where you don't make blanket statements about opinions, while presenting them as facts.

It's common sense that it is my opinion.

[Hunter]

If you can't fight on the ground, you're a pussy blowing people up. Especially if you have a homing launcher locked on you and you have to loop away to escape death. That's just you running away from a fight so you can get a cheap shot later.

 

You're offended by this? You're a lil bish. Get good and fight me on the ground.

Sure - they're not going to dodge the missile; they'll just stay still and let you kill them.

 

I play every different style/vehicle in the game, so I'm not offended by this. I'm amazed at it though. I mean, really?

[Aether]

 

If you can't fight on the ground, you're a pussy blowing people up. Especially if you have a homing launcher locked on you and you have to loop away to escape death. That's just you running away from a fight so you can get a cheap shot later.

 

You're offended by this? You're a lil bish. Get good and fight me on the ground.

Sure - they're not going to dodge the missile; they'll just stay still and let you kill them.

 

I play every different style/vehicle in the game, so I'm not offended by this. I'm amazed at it though. I mean, really?

 

 

Get good and fight me in the air..

 

Hey look at that, I can be judgmental too! LOL.

[shadowoperative]

Not responding to anyone directly.

 

Realizing something after looking at the topic title again...

 

 

This thread isn't(or shouldn't be) about the people that fly aircraft in GTA. This thread is about the players who hate pilots.

 

I'm going to go ahead and conclude for myself that the players that complain about pilots are the people that antagonize and ridicule them in the first place. We don't just randomly decide to go after one person just out of the blue, we are human after all.

 

So if you're complaining about us pilots, somehow or another its because you're actions brought consequences that your salty about. It is not our problem that you're an ass. I can't count how many times someone has sent me a text in game calling me a jet noob when it was in fact it was them who started the altercation.

 

 

This topic is just like the ones regarding the hate of marksmen rifles and easy way out. If someone hates it, they provoked their scenarios to occur all on their own.

 

Most of my pilot buddies are really nice and reasonable people so at first I couldn't understand what the problem really was. Its in the topic title haha.

 

In game, just like life you get what you deserve.

In my experience 9 times out of 10 the jet pilot is the instigator.

[teagle]

 

 

 

 

All true players hate jets.

That's simply not true.

In my opinion it is.

You must have missed the lesson in persuasive writing where you don't make blanket statements about opinions, while presenting them as facts.It's common sense that it is my opinion.That's also simply not true.

[shadowoperative]

 

 

 

 

 

All true players hate jets.

That's simply not true.

In my opinion it is.

You must have missed the lesson in persuasive writing where you don't make blanket statements about opinions, while presenting them as facts.It's common sense that it is my opinion.That's also simply not true.

Oh so now you are one of those who tell me my opinion.

 

Not going to take the bait and I won't respond to you further

[Aether]

 

Not responding to anyone directly.

 

Realizing something after looking at the topic title again...

 

 

This thread isn't(or shouldn't be) about the people that fly aircraft in GTA. This thread is about the players who hate pilots.

 

I'm going to go ahead and conclude for myself that the players that complain about pilots are the people that antagonize and ridicule them in the first place. We don't just randomly decide to go after one person just out of the blue, we are human after all.

 

So if you're complaining about us pilots, somehow or another its because you're actions brought consequences that your salty about. It is not our problem that you're an ass. I can't count how many times someone has sent me a text in game calling me a jet noob when it was in fact it was them who started the altercation.

 

 

This topic is just like the ones regarding the hate of marksmen rifles and easy way out. If someone hates it, they provoked their scenarios to occur all on their own.

 

Most of my pilot buddies are really nice and reasonable people so at first I couldn't understand what the problem really was. Its in the topic title haha.

 

In game, just like life you get what you deserve.

In my experience 9 times out of 10 the jet pilot is the instigator.

 

 

1. Either you have a bounty on you and the pilot wants the money.. or you wanted it to happen.

I can't speak for the random nine year old that gets in the jet, but I swear most of us are surprising nice and polite.

 

 

 

Has anyone in this thread mentioned the idea of just messaging the player flying and simply asking them to stop?

 

I could see that solving a lot of problems. Talk to the pilot.

[Hunter]

 

 

If you can't fight on the ground, you're a pussy blowing people up. Especially if you have a homing launcher locked on you and you have to loop away to escape death. That's just you running away from a fight so you can get a cheap shot later.

 

You're offended by this? You're a lil bish. Get good and fight me on the ground.

Sure - they're not going to dodge the missile; they'll just stay still and let you kill them.

 

I play every different style/vehicle in the game, so I'm not offended by this. I'm amazed at it though. I mean, really?

 

 

Get good and fight me in the air..

 

Hey look at that, I can be judgmental too! LOL.

 

Some people b*tch about whatever you use.

 

"P**sy! Get out of the jet!"

 

"Ok then" (Proceeds to snipe the above player).

 

"P**sy! Get up and fight like a man!"

 

(Sighs). (Kills the player with a marksman pistol).

 

Guess what comes next.

[shadowoperative]

 

 

Not responding to anyone directly.

 

Realizing something after looking at the topic title again...

 

 

This thread isn't(or shouldn't be) about the people that fly aircraft in GTA. This thread is about the players who hate pilots.

 

I'm going to go ahead and conclude for myself that the players that complain about pilots are the people that antagonize and ridicule them in the first place. We don't just randomly decide to go after one person just out of the blue, we are human after all.

 

So if you're complaining about us pilots, somehow or another its because you're actions brought consequences that your salty about. It is not our problem that you're an ass. I can't count how many times someone has sent me a text in game calling me a jet noob when it was in fact it was them who started the altercation.

 

 

This topic is just like the ones regarding the hate of marksmen rifles and easy way out. If someone hates it, they provoked their scenarios to occur all on their own.

 

Most of my pilot buddies are really nice and reasonable people so at first I couldn't understand what the problem really was. Its in the topic title haha.

 

In game, just like life you get what you deserve.

In my experience 9 times out of 10 the jet pilot is the instigator.

 

• Either you have a bounty on you and the pilot wants the money.. or you wanted it to happen.

I can't speak for the random nine year old that gets in the jet, but I swear most of us are surprising nice and polite.

 

 

 

Has anyone in this thread mentioned the idea of just messaging the player flying and simply asking them to stop?

 

I could see that solving a lot of problems. Talk to the pilot.

You might have some nice pilot friends but you and your buddies are very few and very far between.

[Aether]

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you can't fight on the ground, you're a pussy blowing people up. Especially if you have a homing launcher locked on you and you have to loop away to escape death. That's just you running away from a fight so you can get a cheap shot later.

You're offended by this? You're a lil bish. Get good and fight me on the ground.

Sure - they're not going to dodge the missile; they'll just stay still and let you kill them.

 

I play every different style/vehicle in the game, so I'm not offended by this. I'm amazed at it though. I mean, really?

 

 

Get good and fight me in the air..

 

Hey look at that, I can be judgmental too! LOL.

 

Some people b*tch about whatever you use.

 

"P**sy! Get out of the jet!"

 

"Ok then" (Proceeds to snipe the above player).

 

"P**sy! Get up and fight like a man!"

 

(Sighs). (Kills the player with a marksman pistol).

 

Guess what comes next.

 

 

 

 

 

I don't usually strafe players on the ground, but I do see firefights in lobbies all of the time between people on ground level. We are being scapegoated for other peoples misery. Its unfair.

[shadowoperative]

I don't get miserable. I just stop what I am doing and go passive.

[teagle]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All true players hate jets.

That's simply not true.

In my opinion it is.

You must have missed the lesson in persuasive writing where you don't make blanket statements about opinions, while presenting them as facts.

It's common sense that it is my opinion.

That's also simply not true.Oh so now you are one of those who tell me my opinion.

 

Not going to take the bait and I won't respond to you further

I'm not saying that what you've said isn't your opinion. What I'm saying is that it's not "common sense that it's your opinion". What makes an opinion, an opinion; in terms of text and grammar is making a statement such as "I believe" or "I think" or even to say, "In my opinion". When you make those types of blanket statements without doing so, they are read as facts. But when your facts are wrong that makes the entirety of your arguement null.

 

Then you say you'll no longer reply to me because you don't care for what I have to say, that type of immaturity fits perfectly with your lack of comprehension.

Edited April 2, 2016 by teagle

[Hunter]

I don't usually strafe players on the ground, but I do see firefights in lobbies all of the time between people on ground level. We are being scapegoated for other peoples misery. Its unfair.

 

 

 

 

 

Don't even listen to shadow - he's full of s**t and not representative of the average ground/ground only player.

 

I think jets could just do with being quicker, that's all. That would deepen dogfighting, be pretty cool in of itself, and would make strafing less deadly accurate.

 

Ground only players do have a point that it's a little easy for jets to pick off people on the ground, since they're so slow and controllable compared to the real thing. But anyone saying all pilots are evil, or jets need to go ... It's just childish BS from people not worth listening to.

[Aether]

I don't get miserable. I just stop what I am doing and go passive.

 

^Which(and I swear I'm not being sarcastic) is the real victory. Going passive and just saying "I'm done with this sh*t" is victory for you in itself.

 

Do you want to win? Or do you want to be happy?

 

Too bad not everyone is like that.

[shadowoperative]

 

I don't get miserable. I just stop what I am doing and go passive.

^Which(and I swear I'm not being sarcastic) is the real victory. Going passive and just saying "I'm done with this sh*t" is victory for you in itself.

 

Do you want to win? Or do you want to be happy?

 

Too bad not everyone is like that.

Agreed. Not everyone thinks that way. I have seen many good ground players try in vain to fight these types one on one.

 

Jet always wins by a large margin.

[l Marksman God l]

If you can't fight on the ground, you're a pussy blowing people up. Especially if you have a homing launcher locked on you and you have to loop away to escape death. That's just you running away from a fight so you can get a cheap shot later.

 

You're offended by this? You're a lil bish. Get good and fight me on the ground.

I can fight you , since the ground master in this thread is ducking my 1v1 lol

[GTA_dog]

 

 

If you can't fight on the ground, you're a pussy blowing people up. Especially if you have a homing launcher locked on you and you have to loop away to escape death. That's just you running away from a fight so you can get a cheap shot later.

 

You're offended by this? You're a lil bish. Get good and fight me on the ground.

Sure - they're not going to dodge the missile; they'll just stay still and let you kill them.

 

I play every different style/vehicle in the game, so I'm not offended by this. I'm amazed at it though. I mean, really?

 

Get good and fight me in the air..

 

Hey look at that, I can be judgmental too! LOL.

In the air where you can hide from my homing launcher? Hahahahahavaggagagavagagabahahahahshhahdjsjd

[We Are Ninja]

...I'm going to go ahead and conclude for myself that the players that complain about pilots are the people that antagonize and ridicule them in the first place. We don't just randomly decide to go after one person just out of the blue, we are human after all.

This is the first time in 17 pages that I've got nothing. That is the single dumbest thing I've read in this thread. After I read that, I had to take my hand off the mouse, fold my hands in my lap and just sit quietly as I absorbed the ludicrousness emanating from my screen. Holy sh*t.

 

 

So if you're complaining about us pilots, somehow or another its because you're actions brought consequences that your salty about. It is not our problem that you're an ass. I can't count how many times someone has sent me a text in game calling me a jet noob when it was in fact it was them who started the altercation.

So you're saying that the only reason that jet griefers grief is because people on the ground pick fights with them...

 

[Hunter]

 

 

 

Get good and fight me in the air..

 

Hey look at that, I can be judgmental too! LOL.

In the air where you can hide from my homing launcher? Hahahahahavaggagagavagagabahahahahshhahdjsjd

 

 

He can easily dodge your cr**py homing launcher lol.

 

Let's face it - whatever he used, he'd probably beat you, and then you'd tell him to stop moving because it's unfair, and then he'd beat you anyway, and then you'd say he needs a blindfold on ...

 

For the record, I think jets could do with being made faster so shooting is harder, and dogfights more complicated.

 

Childish BS like this isn't helping anyone though.

Edited April 2, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[Semaj 2JZ♢]

Not responding to anyone directly.

 

Realizing something after looking at the topic title again...

 

 

This thread isn't(or shouldn't be) about the people that fly aircraft in GTA. This thread is about the players who hate pilots.

 

I'm going to go ahead and conclude for myself that the players that complain about pilots are the people that antagonize and ridicule them in the first place. We don't just randomly decide to go after one person just out of the blue, we are human after all.

 

So if you're complaining about us pilots, somehow or another its because you're actions brought consequences that your salty about. It is not our problem that you're an ass. I can't count how many times someone has sent me a text in game calling me a jet noob when it was in fact it was them who started the altercation.

 

 

This topic is just like the ones regarding the hate of marksmen rifles and easy way out. If someone hates it, they provoked their scenarios to occur all on their own.

 

Most of my pilot buddies are really nice and reasonable people so at first I couldn't understand what the problem really was. Its in the topic title haha.

 

In game, just like life you get what you deserve.

I have to disagree here. I'm human, and my sole FR play style is to literally pick out anyone and everyone in any random order and kill them. Not incessantly mind you. But still, I don't single out anyone for any specific reason; Low rank/bounty/car choice, etc. If I'm jettin' and you are there, there will be a time that I come for you.

 

There was a time in my early days that pride would get the better of me and jet pilots and other egregious griefers would anger me and ruin my gaming experience. It was not long tho, that I stopped worrying about how I was going to be killed while playing in a FR lobby. Why is it that the rest of you can't let virtual death go? It's like if someone kills you with a jet it's a personal, racist, bigoted insult or physical attack against a close loved one, but if they shoot you with 'their' (as in the jet opposers) accepted weapon(s) of choice, all of a sudden its legit, or with "honor"...FFS , all you did was suffer a virtual 8 second death and then magically you're restored to continue on. There is zero difference in the death, as to how it occured, if there is no permanent consequence. Maybe you need to reassess your emotional insecurities and prioritize accordingly.

[saintsrow]

So you're saying that the only reason that jet griefers grief is because people on the ground pick fights with them...

 

 

Yeah, whenever I see a jet, I send him texts insulting him and his mother, and calling him a no-skill pussy. Then he comes and tries to grief me. I hate having my fun spoiled by jets

 

 

On topic: The real question in this thread, which I think someone has asked, is, "Why does Rockstar love jets?"

Edited April 2, 2016 by saintsrow

[CarimboHanky]

 

 

All true players hate jets.

That's simply not true.

In my opinion it is.im a true player, heck i have played the gta franchise longer than anyone i know and i love jets!