Quantcast
Jump to content
Search In
  • More options...
Find results that contain...
Find results in...
    1. Welcome to GTAForums!

    2. News

    1. Red Dead Redemption 2

    1. GTA Online

      1. After Hours
      2. Find Lobbies & Players
      3. Guides & Strategies
      4. Vehicles
      5. Content Creator
      6. Help & Support
    2. Crews

      1. Events
      2. Recruitment
    1. Grand Theft Auto Series

    2. GTA Next

    3. GTA V

      1. PC
      2. Guides & Strategies
      3. Help & Support
    4. GTA IV

      1. Episodes from Liberty City
      2. Multiplayer
      3. Guides & Strategies
      4. Help & Support
      5. GTA Mods
    5. GTA Chinatown Wars

    6. GTA Vice City Stories

    7. GTA Liberty City Stories

    8. GTA San Andreas

      1. Guides & Strategies
      2. Help & Support
      3. GTA Mods
    9. GTA Vice City

      1. Guides & Strategies
      2. Help & Support
      3. GTA Mods
    10. GTA III

      1. Guides & Strategies
      2. Help & Support
      3. GTA Mods
    11. Top Down Games

      1. GTA Advance
      2. GTA 2
      3. GTA
    12. Wiki

      1. Merchandising
    1. GTA Modding

      1. GTA V
      2. GTA IV
      3. GTA III, VC & SA
      4. Tutorials
    2. Mod Showroom

      1. Scripts & Plugins
      2. Maps
      3. Total Conversions
      4. Vehicles
      5. Textures
      6. Characters
      7. Tools
      8. Other
      9. Workshop
    3. Featured Mods

      1. DYOM
      2. OpenIV
      3. GTA: Underground
      4. GTA: Liberty City
      5. GTA: State of Liberty
    1. Red Dead Redemption

    2. Rockstar Games

    1. Off-Topic

      1. General Chat
      2. Gaming
      3. Technology
      4. Programming
      5. Movies & TV
      6. Music
      7. Sports
      8. Vehicles
    2. Expression

      1. Graphics / Visual Arts
      2. GFX Requests & Tutorials
      3. Writers' Discussion
      4. Debates & Discussion
    1. Forum Support

    2. Site Suggestions

Algonquin Assassin

Do you find GTA IV's story "depressing"?

Do you find GTA IV's story "depressing"?  

168 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you find GTA IV's story "depressing"?

    • Yes
      65
    • No
      103


Recommended Posts

Algonquin Assassin

As most of us know GTA IV's story is often regarded as the best in the series, but one thing a lot of critics point out is it's too depressing or serious, but is it something you agree with?

 

For me, no. Sure Niko's confrontation with Darko is more powerful than other things in the game, but as for the whole thing being depressing?

 

Personally I love how the story switches from its light hearted moments to its more serious ones and vice versa. In neither case it doesn't feel overly forced. Even though I really liked Heavy Rain (I know it's a bit out of left field), but it had a story I thought was fairly depressing given its subject matter. That doesn't mean it was bad. I still really enjoyed the game.

 

Anyway GTA IV's story has honestly never depressed me. It's the best balance between entertainment and the consequences of Niko's choices/actions IMO.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
slimeball supreme

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The7thOne

Exactly how I felt as well. Sure, it has its dark moments, but it's not inherently depressing.

 

It's a game where you can feel sorrow for the characters and still be entertained by the premise, and that's what I like about IV. It doesn't try hard to maintain a unipolar sense of dark, gritty tales of sadness, but rather keeps everything perfectly balanced so the player isn't overburdened by anything.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
B Dawg

Depressing? Not at all.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The Deadite

The endings are deppresing tho.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jeansowaty

It's not that it's depressing but it's life-like. You can feel what the characters felt.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Predator

No it's not , the only " depressing " story is 3 , Claude doesn't talk , none of the main characters are funny, etc.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
dognuts

IV isn't depressing but the ending doesn't make you feel particularly good. But that's the point. It's definitely not overly sad, look at Bernie, Brucie, Roman, etc. There's plenty of comic relief, as you said.

 

EDIT - if IV is depressing, then so is The Departed.

Edited by Donut

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Gnocchi Flip Flops

The endings are deppresing tho.

Well I think canon is Revenge and even though Kate dies and Niko grieves, I'm sure he'd get over it soon. They weren't even that damn close if you ask me. And personally I thought she was a prune.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Tycek

No. GTA IV story was quite balanced in my opinion and for every sad moment there was also a funny one. Whole story is quite emotional and real, so maybe that's the reason why people find it depressing.

 

Personally I thought the ending of "All hands on deck" in Vice City and the game after that missions and GTA III were more depressing as you realized that with every step closer to the top, there are less people around you. GTA III left you with every main character death or on the run, while in Vice City fact that Colonel Cortez had to run, made you realized that you crossed point of no return. Both of these were pretty emotional yet still far from depressing.

Edited by Tycek

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
AmigaMix

Not as "depressing" as GTA V's story... :p

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The Deadite

 

The endings are deppresing tho.

Well I think canon is Revenge and even though Kate dies and Niko grieves, I'm sure he'd get over it soon. They weren't even that damn close if you ask me. And personally I thought she was a prune.

Dude, Niko had the hots for a frigid redhead and she died before he could pork her, there's nothing more depressing than that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jeansowaty

 

 

The endings are deppresing tho.

Well I think canon is Revenge and even though Kate dies and Niko grieves, I'm sure he'd get over it soon. They weren't even that damn close if you ask me. And personally I thought she was a prune.

Dude, Niko had the hots for a frigid redhead and she died before he could pork her, there's nothing more depressing than that.

 

If it would be Eddie Low who would be on the wedding with Kate instead of Niko...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
izXenon

The endings are deppresing tho.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Cheatz/Trickz

No. It's grounded. It balances humour and otherwise quite naturally given the context of the story.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
CreepShow

Not really. TLaD story is waaaaay more depressing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
GTA V Is On PC

Whenever someone dislikes GTA IV's story because it was too "depressing" it really annoys me. What did you expect when buying a game with "Grand Theft Auto" in the title? A barney simulator? No, a game about being a criminal in the gritty and dangerous Liberty City. If it wasn't for having that dark and misty feel, then Liberty City would lose all of its character. Niko's story went perfectly with the environment, as well.

Edited by VIce City Again

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mr_Rager

The story revolves around Niko's struggles in the crime world and his struggles with his cousin. Niko's mental health is a sub-plot, too. Even if it's in the background. It's also grounded in reality. Yes, I think it's a depressing story, but that's not a bad thing, it's not a negative, it's called setting a tone, and they set it well. It's not so depressing that you never want to play it again, which is a great balance.

Edited by Canadian Badass

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
theGTAking101

It can be depressing at some moments, but that's what I like about it. It feels real.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
HaythamKenway

No, I don't. I get why people think it's depressing though, since Niko and Roman get pulled through so much cr*p, Niko is just caught in this self-destructive obsession and the game ends on a bitter note, but there's an underlying sense of hope and optimism beneath all that grim cynicism of the game. And it's not just Roman, it's everywhere. Niko deep down, despite his edgy worldview, has hope for the future and works towards making that dream, that new beginning and inner peace he desires so much, a reality. Of course, the way he wants to make it happen is obviously wrong, but that's not the point here. It's that he's just not a broken, resignated mess who thinks that things will never get better. And then there's Kate and Florian, who both also reflect that hopeful side of Niko's personality. Hell, Florian is literally the writers saying "This is Niko, if he just let go of the hate".

 

There are also genuine friendships, genuine bonds between Niko and Jacob, Packie and others, even among characters who don't literally become "friend contacts". You get the sense that these people really grow together, can trust each other and that does a lot for a story set in predominantly hostile and suspicious circles.

 

Then there's humor. A lot of it is, of course, snarky satire and sex jokes, but a lot of humor in IV was derived just from banter between characters and funny characters just being plain entertaining while, and this is the important bit, they weren't exactly degraded by the joke. That's very important for the overall tone of the story. There's a big difference in the overall presentation of Brucie and, say, Jimmy from V. Brucie is still treated with certain level of fondness and respect, by the writing itself, and also by other characters in the story (probably the most obvious example of that is his final scene with Luis and Mori in TBoGT).

 

In short, IV can be incredibly dark, downer game, but there's always sun shining through the clouds too. It's not just a horrible downward spiral of a story, featuring characters who are all total a*sholes who all hate each other. There's good, there's hope, there's positivity. At the end of the day, that's what really matters, even if the game itself ends with sorrowful Niko in the rain.

Edited by HaythamKenway

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
PhillBellic

I don't find it particularly Depressing. There were many Low Points in the Story, but those were balanced by its many funny Parts. The ending was rather Bittersweet though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Flachbau

I find it to be pretty depressing in some parts, but in general, it fits the overall theme. TBoGT showed us a bright and vivid LC, with a more lighter story line, so we get the best of both worlds.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
PhillBellic

If y'all want 'Depressing', just play TLAD. No one wins there. No matter what the Cast in that Game do to try make their lives better, they are Doomed By Canon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Lester-The-Molester

What is depressing is Niko sitting on that big pile of cash instead of donating it to the cheesy reptilian vaginas.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jimbatron

I would not say depressing from a players perspective, although it definitely has big melancholic moments.

 

On my first play through I'd avoided spoilers and picked deal. That was properly dark, watching Mr and Mrs Bellic, probably the most moving I have seen a computer game get. But I wouldn't say depressing. The best TV shows and movies are often the ones that aren't afraid to stray from the formulaic happy endings.

 

One important factor helping to avoid it become too overbearing is Niko's sense of humour. For me it's not the obvious ones like calling Vlad an annoying dick, but the little jibes he makes, like replying to Brucies email "you need serious help". I think if you took that part of Nikos character away it would feel very different.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Osho

Its the most boring story to play, albeit a well written. Its the world that gives a depressing vibe, the state of being imprisoned in "Niko's character" throughout the game, be the story and the gameplay. It can work for some, but its unappealing to me.

The choices in the ending were also a bummer, not because it wasn't a happy ending, but after going through the torture of playing the long story campaign, the ending options really didn't feel strong to me.

Mafia 1 has a better ending with a similar story that left a strong impact on me, than Niko Bellic. Its story was also perfect in length and very much stays to the point of the story than dragging the story needlessly like IV.

So, I voted yes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
slimeball supreme

Its the most boring story to play

That wasn't the question.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mr_Rager

Its the most boring story to play, albeit a well written. Its the world that gives a depressing vibe, the state of being imprisoned in "Niko's character" throughout the game, be the story and the gameplay. It can work for some, but its unappealing to me.

The choices in the ending were also a bummer, not because it wasn't a happy ending, but after going through the torture of playing the long story campaign, the ending options really didn't feel strong to me.

Mafia 1 has a better ending with a similar story that left a strong impact on me, than Niko Bellic. Its story was also perfect in length and very much stays to the point of the story than dragging the story needlessly like IV.

So, I voted yes.

 

What happened to you Osho? You were supposed to bring balance to the SA/IV fanboys, not leave them in darkness.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kvic

Depressing no not at all the problem with most people is they don't have the attention span for it's story line or that it's more believable the V ,if you go over and check out the mods for V you will see a lot of people,who want mods to make V more realistic something FOR ME IV already has.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
mr quick

Depressing in the best way possible.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×

Important Information

By using GTAForums.com, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.