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I don't know, I'd rather have a gearbox with ratios better suited for spirited driving, and a slightly more lively engine. Build quality can be a bit hit and miss too.

 

Mind you, the supercharged ones are pretty f*cking cool.

I don't mind the ratios at all.

 

After driving a rare lhd version (apparently the very first lhd made) in Munich, I wouldn't even mind the build quality.

 

The thing drives as nimble as a CRX and is cheap as chips compared to something European.

As a Rover 75 V8 you would have the perfect sleeper. Even more if it is one of the few with stick-shift....

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Heh, the cult following around then means they're quite expensive in the UK. Eight grand for one in a desirable spec, you can get an E39 M5 for that and I know which I'd rather...

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As I wrote.

The MG handles like my 1990 CRX. ProDrive did an awesome job with the front wheel- to rear wheel drive conversion considering the ammount of money supplied by Rover whilst it was dying. The car was converted to handle as much as 500 hp. But that ammount of power never saw the light of day, as Rover/MG did not survive the year 2006...

And then you have the formidable burble from the indestructable Ford V8.

 

No German car can give you that at the price of the MG.

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If I need a DD, I choose this:

 

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A Honda Fit/Jazz with taller roof and sliding door. Small but roomy, handling is great, can carry up to 7 people, affordable to buy and maintain, and it's reliable. I've driven this one during a mountain and beach trip with my friends. Handles well, doesn't chug too much gas, small enough to do some slip streaming on the mountain road but big enough to carry 6 without having some space issues, and it doesn't look that bad in real life. Plus, sliding doors FTW!

 

I'll take mine with automatic transmission and manual sliding door.

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Nice car.

But sadly not available in Europe.

 

The Honda car line-up in Europe at the moment is not worthy of mentioning. It is the crappiest since they first set-foot in Germany in 1967.

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considering the ammount of money supplied by Rover

I don't disagree, but this is the key point here. The ZT260 is an astounding achievement given the budget, but a precision sports saloon it is not.

 

No German car can give you that at the price of the MG.

I assume you're referring to the "formidable burble" rather than the handling here as I can name numerous sports saloons available for the price of a ZT260 in the UK which would literally run rings around one. The aforementioned E39 M5, for instance.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the big American V8 in the front. and driving the rear wheels of a boggo saloon car approach- I love the Monaro and VXR-8, both of which I'd argue do this with a bit more success than the ZT. The ZT is interesting as a curio, but if you genuinely think it would even begin to see the way an M5 went on twisting A and B roads then I'm afraid you're dreaming.

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The Honda car line-up in Europe at the moment is not worthy of mentioning. It is the crappiest since they first set-foot in Germany in 1967.

I can see that. Japanese cars aren't very popular in Europe, and if I live in Europe, this will be my DD:

 

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Nice car.

But sadly not available in Europe.

 

The Honda car line-up in Europe at the moment is not worthy of mentioning. It is the crappiest since they first set-foot in Germany in 1967.

 

Mainland Europe maybe. The Republic of Ireland (don't know much about ESW, but I will talk about Northern Ireland) and Northern Ireland (UK) have a decent honda following. The Civic is the biggest seller from honda with second hande Preludes, Integras, CRX's and Accords making the rest. The S2000 makes an odd appearance. Toyota is the biggest Japanese seller with the Corolla being the biggest seller.

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As I wrote.

The MG handles like my 1990 CRX. ProDrive did an awesome job with the front wheel- to rear wheel drive conversion considering the ammount of money supplied by Rover whilst it was dying. The car was converted to handle as much as 500 hp. But that ammount of power never saw the light of day, as Rover/MG did not survive the year 2006...

And then you have the formidable burble from the indestructable Ford V8.

 

No German car can give you that at the price of the MG.

 

My owners club did a joint meet with an MG ZT owners group some years back and there was a couple of V8s there. As they are mustang based a lot of the mods were transferable. One there had a full Supercharger, whole hog deal. He never let know what the BHP figures were but finished in brilliant silver and on stock wheels, I bet it upset quite a few folks!

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An ex colleague of mine had a ZT260 estate with a Vortech V-2 fitted. Think it was something like 435bhp at 8PSI. It was on 18" BBS wheels with a custom non-resonated Powerflow, so wasn't exactly subtle.

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Nice car.

But sadly not available in Europe.

 

The Honda car line-up in Europe at the moment is not worthy of mentioning. It is the crappiest since they first set-foot in Germany in 1967.

Mainland Europe maybe. The Republic of Ireland (don't know much about ESW, but I will talk about Northern Ireland) and Northern Ireland (UK) have a decent honda following. The Civic is the biggest seller from honda with second hande Preludes, Integras, CRX's and Accords making the rest. The S2000 makes an odd appearance. Toyota is the biggest Japanese seller with the Corolla being the biggest seller.

I was talking about the CURRENT line-up :

-Jazz

-ciVic

-HRV

-CRV

 

The crappiest portfolio Honda ever had. And I just cannot imagine an NSX amongst those cars in a showroom.

Noone who has the money to buy such a car would want to be seen amongst those rubbish looking heaps of metal...

Oh, I actually AM a Honda-fan.

But not with such politics in Europe !

 

sivispacem: Thanks for your insight, but I still stand to my point. :-)

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No Problems. My point still stands with the current batch as I see plenty of CRV's, HRV's and Jazz's.

 

It seems we are at the tail end of the American Markets while from Spain (skipping France and Italy) eastwards are largely German or German owned. Italy and France have their own brands and tend to be patriotic to those. The inbetween brand in Europe is Ford (Big in Spain, Germany and Belgium).

 

Italy has a hold with the Panda and France is chocked with Renault and PSA Peugot/Citroen. Also the biggest selling Italian vehicles are from the Piaggio comany (the car is only there for family trips (or family planning ;):) )

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As Epoxi said, the first-gen Lexus LS400. I don't think he could have summarized it any better, so I have nothing more to say about it.

 

In terms of new cars, I really cars along the lines of the Golf GTI and Subaru WRX. I'd realistically go for one of those, since decent LS400s for sale are so damn rare here. Even though it comes with almost as much "bro baggage" as the FRS, I could see my self driving this for sure:

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Also, the new Mazda 6 looks pretty sexy. I've heard a lot of good things about it, too. I'd be all over a Mazdaspeed version (or MPS, depending on where you live).

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Gnocchi Flip Flops

No "bro baggage"

 

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:^: I approve. Although this is interesting:

 

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No "bro baggage"

 

 

:^: I approve. Although this is interesting:

 

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The new IS F's are not really "true" F sports.

The old one had a V8 and a 6-speed. The new one isn't the same imo.

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^ True. The GS-F - the one in that picture I posted - kind of takes it's place though. Big V8 and good performance.

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There arent much wagon choices in North america, so this could be a realistic candidate for me

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obviously modified to be a sleeper of course :cool:

 

For new cars. This is a no brainer for me

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There arent much wagon choices in North america, so this could be a realistic candidate for me

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obviously modified to be a sleeper of course :cool:

 

How about this. Just do the engine and tranny. There are a few in the US as well.

 

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If you fancy digging a bit this would be an ideal wagon for style, comfort and practicality (not much pace, but that isn't this cars style (and since the speed limit is up to 70 speed is sometimes irellevant :) )

 

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Keeping the colours, but re-doing in metalic, with some nice embossed solids. Hike the engine to 250hp and you'll have a sweet cruiser.

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Why are 250 hp necessary for an ID Break? Yes, it is unfortunate that the ID Break was not available with the 2.3l 129 hp engine, but more power is definitely not what you are longing for in an old D-model.

 

But increasing the engine's hp to 250 seems impossible, unless you get a new engine. And good luck with that, because the D-engines turned the other way than conventional engines. You'll just find yourself with 4 rear gears.

 

Also, quite frankly, as much as I love the D-model, I would hardly consider it an 'ideal daily driver'. Those engines, while robust and never leaking oil, are not bulletproof (I should know). And that's because we start talking about the hydraulics.

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On the point of 250 hp, it was a random figure. The basic tradition of maintaining and lightly modifying is to boost the power, even if it is only and extra 10hp. If nothing else you kinda want to power the car originally came with and the simplest way to achieve that is to make sure it has a bit more power.

 

Also I do concede the hydralics were always a weak point, it isn't necessarily a critical weakness. Like any car, if you don't gt it checked at least once a year and stick to the guides, you are courting problems. A looked after DS is as bullet proof as a focus.

 

 

Talking of reliable, here's something to make you laugh (ironically I hope)

 

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On the point of 250 hp, it was a random figure. The basic tradition of maintaining and lightly modifying is to boost the power, even if it is only and extra 10hp. If nothing else you kinda want to power the car originally came with and the simplest way to achieve that is to make sure it has a bit more power.

 

Also I do concede the hydralics were always a weak point, it isn't necessarily a critical weakness. Like any car, if you don't gt it checked at least once a year and stick to the guides, you are courting problems. A looked after DS is as bullet proof as a focus.

 

 

Talking of reliable, here's something to make you laugh (ironically I hope)

 

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I'd love an Alfa GTA. Any company shoehorning a 3.2 V6 into a small car gets my vote, shame the image for breaking all the time puts me off big style...

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On the point of 250 hp, it was a random figure. The basic tradition of maintaining and lightly modifying is to boost the power, even if it is only and extra 10hp. If nothing else you kinda want to power the car originally came with and the simplest way to achieve that is to make sure it has a bit more power.

 

Also I do concede the hydralics were always a weak point, it isn't necessarily a critical weakness. Like any car, if you don't gt it checked at least once a year and stick to the guides, you are courting problems. A looked after DS is as bullet proof as a focus.

 

 

Talking of reliable, here's something to make you laugh (ironically I hope)

 

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I'd love an Alfa GTA. Any company shoehorning a 3.2 V6 into a small car gets my vote, shame the image for breaking all the time puts me off big style...

 

 

You missed the point of my post then :). Alfa's of old (pre 2000) had problems and classic Alfas were the bain of every home mechanic, but....

 

Since Fiat got their sh*t together in the new Millenium, their cars are now viable. The likes of the Panda and 500 rate as some of the most reliable cars. Since the inception of the JD Power Survey Fiat and Fiat Group cars have been climbing that list. As it stands Alfa is now a genuine contender.

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I was going to say, most of the post-2000 Alfa's are pretty reliable.

 

The biggest problem with the 159 is that they replaced the beautiful Busso V6 with a farty, lazy and drab Chrysler engine.

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