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The Hero

DFF importer and exporter for 3ds max

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Gmer
On 7/14/2018 at 11:31 AM, Neos7 said:

can a 2016 build be included in the release?

thanks

from the download it is rwio_3.1d\plugins\amd64\ > rwio2015.dli

It's either mistitled, or there is a failure to distinguish because this version is compatible with both 3DS 2015 and 3DS 2016.

 

I am serious, ive been using the "2015" plugin for 3DS 2016 for many months, without ever a single issue. Just do it, it works perfectly.

Maybe The_GTA can clear up the confusion.. as you can see on maintopic post, its supported, and I think rwio2015.dli is just intended to be it.

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Neos7
9 hours ago, Gmer said:

from the download it is rwio_3.1d\plugins\amd64\ > rwio2015.dli

It's either mistitled, or there is a failure to distinguish because this version is compatible with both 3DS 2015 and 3DS 2016.

 

I am serious, ive been using the "2015" plugin for 3DS 2016 for many months, without ever a single issue. Just do it, it works perfectly.

Maybe The_GTA can clear up the confusion.. as you can see on maintopic post, its supported, and I think rwio2015.dli is just intended to be it.

Oh right 2016 supports binary compiled plugins with 2015 SDK

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Gmer
On 1/16/2016 at 5:44 PM, The Hero said:

It should work with 3ds max 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018.

Do you know if the plugin for 2018 also supports 3DS 2019? I won't risk updating my 3DS if i cant use it after that..

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Tut Greco

For some reason I can't use this texture in my models using your exporter, it's very weird.

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xiaogui319

Import GTAVC CAR DFF Texture UV will be lost。

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Tut Greco

How do I go about removing smoothing groups so that the model is hard edged? I want my stone statue to have facet'ish display and not fully smooth;

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@The Hero

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guard3

You can adjust the smoothing groups the way you want. The exporter preserves the smoothing groups you have already.

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The Hero

It will *not* import smoothing groups, but what you can do if you want to preserve the original smoothing is to import explicit normals.

For your case, just don't import explicit normals and adjust the smoothing groups to your liking.

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Gmer
On 9/21/2018 at 4:21 PM, The Hero said:

It will *not* import smoothing groups, but what you can do if you want to preserve the original smoothing is to import explicit normals.

For your case, just don't import explicit normals and adjust the smoothing groups to your liking.

Unfortunately, while I respect your efforts, 'Explicit normals' is rarely usable because this import option will crash 3DS Max 99% of the times, when the model you're importing does have normals (so practically always crashes when you want to use that function).

I am not virtually 100% sure if it happens in all scenarios, because I only tried importing vehicles with the function, and not objects.


Also there is more to your plugin that is able to crash 3DS, if i may report this to you then it's: using GTA helper kams material feature, and then going to another tab (like modifiers) thus getting away from GTA helper view to the right.. now, if you try return to where GTA helper is opened, away from modifiers to that view, 3DS crashes. So basically, we can only use GTA helper once, and then when you are done with modelling session right after using it, you gotta restart 3DS to make sure you wont crash upon trying to use it (or anything else in that view) again. This has became like a routine for me, that workaround, and I would totally understand if you dont have time to debug or fix it.

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The Hero

I've had crashes before, often fixed them but there are still some left I suppose. The whole plugin is a dumpster fire. I started out super motivated to write a proper max plugin and then the max SDK sucked all life out of my soul.

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xiaogui319

The Hero,Can you update this plugin?

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The Hero

Not now.

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xiaogui319
2 hours ago, The Hero said:

不是现在。

ok

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Gmer
On 9/24/2018 at 10:15 AM, The Hero said:

The whole plugin is a dumpster fire. I started out super motivated to write a proper max plugin and then the max SDK sucked all life out of my soul.

Despite that, the current result is still pretty good. I really love the plugin in its current shape already. Damn those other plugins with authors that didn't understand GTA nor Renderware properly.. if someone is suitable to write something like this (of all modders around here), then it's definately you. And you already delivered us with something way better than other released plugins which are heck outdated. So thanks for that, so far

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Tut Greco
On 9/21/2018 at 4:21 PM, The Hero said:

It will *not* import smoothing groups, but what you can do if you want to preserve the original smoothing is to import explicit normals.

For your case, just don't import explicit normals and adjust the smoothing groups to your liking.

I have tried every possible solution listed but it doesn't seem to change visually at all, on vehicles it seems to work fine though. Is it VC/NVC that needs to be shaded in a way to show hard edged look? I doubt that'd work though

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The Hero

Buildings in GTA don't have normals/smoothing, only vertex colours. You'll have to mess with those if you want hard edges.

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Tut Greco

Oh, Ryba's post on 2018 kams script seemed to have hard normals in it. I guess I'll be looking for a function to show hard edges on mta then :D

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f3uz

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Tut Greco

oi, I'm experiencing crashes when attempting to save a vehicle DFF of 15k polygons and 11k vertecies. It happened after I attached parts to the chassis and other components. Exporting using Goldfish' edition of Kam's scripts works 100%, RW not.

Edit: Exporting with Kam's script and then importing it only imports dummies and windshield meshes.

Edit2: It seems like it is the normals/smoothing groups causing the issue. I have used the Smooth modifier rather than setting smoothing groups as it allows for higher quality smoothing than the ugly result of smoothing groups.

Edit3: After clearing all smoothing groups from literally all of my meshes, it still crashes on export.

 

The model has a ton of ug_dummies (upgrades). I have tried exporting the wheel only and a few other parts, deselecting ug_parts. It worked fine. I tried including 4 of the ug parts, and it crashed again.

Deleting all of the ug_dummies and then exporting as usually, crashes once again. This is really frustraiting.

Any help?

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The Hero

Hm, that shouldn't be above the limits, no idea why it crashes, sorry. A couple of posts back I explained how much "fun" it is to work with the 3ds max, and I'm not currently working on anything gta related anyway, so better not depend on me fixing this, because I won't atm.

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Tut Greco

It's fine, in the end ill probably just have to reset all materials and smoothing, as it's probably a corrupted material or mesh

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Tut Greco

oi @The Hero, I need to convert several models RW material to standard material (both singular and multi/sub-material for multiple materials). Do you think you could add it as an option on the GTA helper that currently converts RW to GTA_MTL?

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The Hero

There is some maxscript stuff in the package for that. I haven't used it a lot but it should mostly work.

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BloodRaynare
Posted (edited)

Anyone can extract skinned models properly? Every time I tried to export the models with skin the maxscript will always wrote "Unequal numbers of bones and nodes" despite I made zero modifications of the models. The DFFs would still exported though just without the bones.

I'm Using 3DS Max 2009 (both x64 and x86) if it helps.

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devmode.lua

I compile plugin for 3ds max 2020. Link: RWIO2020

 

Seems like all is Ok, but I do this first time so any errors might be)

 

All thanks to @The Hero 😃

 

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Pentium5000

How to convert models from DFF version 3.4.X.X to Grand Theft Auto III for Android? 

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pimann

and will it allow to import/export player/ped skins for gta 3 ?

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pimann

I try to import any dff (e.g. GTA 3 models) but 3DS Max crashes!!!

 

Used 3DS Max 2016 with rwio2015.dli

 

What's wrong?

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The Hero

I've no idea. the plugin is in a rather bad state.

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