Best Muscle Car?

[enjoyingorc6742]

with the Duel stunt race, i keep winning with my Blackfin. such a fun car to drive.

[-LN-]

 

 

Not sure why they reclassed the Drift Tampa. It's hands-down my favorite "Muscle" car, even though they stuffed it into the overcrowed Sports class.

It would fit very nicely in the Muscle class too--it would be quite competitive (but by no means over-powered) against the top tier cars in the class. Sadly they will probably never place where it belongs.

 

 

I'm voting Dukes.

In terms of looks, I agree--I love it and would never sell it. It can be competitive under the right circumstances, but I don't want to add a spoiler to mine, so racing with it doesn't generally do me any good.

I haven't driven mine into a modshop in ages, but the low spoiler looks really good IMO. Not sure if different spoiler types matter but I gave a modded dominator a helluva run for his money until he quit or lagged out. He had 1500 some odd races under his belt and 1000+ wins

 

 

All spoilers have the same effect--I went without the spoiler because I wanted my Dukes to have more of a traditional, mostly stock look.

 

 

Anyone who wants a muscle car just for the best statistics doesn't deserve a muscle car.

 

Yes, but individuals want at least one for racing purposes--the Hotknife may look cool, but it as sure as hell isn't going to win you many races. I have Muscle cars for racing, and more than an entire other garage--almost two dedicated to the ones that I simply love driving.

 

 

 

Not sure why they reclassed the Drift Tampa. It's hands-down my favorite "Muscle" car, even though they stuffed it into the overcrowed Sports class.

 

When was it re-classed? It's been in the Sports class since it was added to the game a few weeks ago.

 

 

Yes, I think he just meant having one Tampa in the Muscle class and the other in Sports (where it doesn't belong).

Edited July 28, 2016 by LN-MLB

[Smale45]

Dominator Racecar's only value is in a straight line. Blade for if you have to make any kind of turn.

lies. U'll get your ass whooped by any skilled Dominator driver. I was using Blade at first in Duel race until i started running into good Dominator drivers. Edited July 28, 2016 by Smale45

[Above Omnipotence]

Dominator Racecar edges out the Sabre Turbo Custom.

[lll-H-I-M-lll]

Blackfin even though i personally class it as a sports classic. The cars just hot all round

[emptyplayer]

 

All spoilers have the same effect--I went without the spoiler because I wanted my Dukes to have more of a traditional, mostly stock look.

Not true. Different spoilers have different effects. More than often than not the most expensive and taller ones off the best grip.

[Mach1bud]

Dominator Racecar edges out the Sabre Turbo Custom.

This is my stance as well.

[AGNT009]

^Well crap, I wasted money fixing up a Benny Sabre. Had the race Dom already. Fortunately I only added racing parts to it after the 400k Benny ripoff, but I never would have got it if the Dom is basically equal to it.

[SickBoy]

Dominator Racecar edges out the Sabre Turbo Custom.

 

The problem with the Dominator Stock Car is that it's quite difficult to get round a track quickly without a fair amount of practice and learning how to drive it, whereas the Sabre Turbo is easier to drive with little to no practice, it has good grip around the corners and a good top speed to keep it going. Me, personally, I've started racing the Dukes, because though its the second fastest Muscle, I've never liked the look of the Sabre Turbo, and the Dukes is still a great car to drive and race, it has slightly better grip than the ST Custom, and the group of people i race with prefer using catch-up to make the race more interesting, so it's very competitive.

[Above Omnipotence]

 

Dominator Racecar edges out the Sabre Turbo Custom.

The problem with the Dominator Stock Car is that it's quite difficult to get round a track quickly without a fair amount of practice and learning how to drive it, whereas the Sabre Turbo is easier to drive with little to no practice, it has good grip around the corners and a good top speed to keep it going. Me, personally, I've started racing the Dukes, because though its the second fastest Muscle, I've never liked the look of the Sabre Turbo, and the Dukes is still a great car to drive and race, it has slightly better grip than the ST Custom, and the group of people i race with prefer using catch-up to make the race more interesting, so it's very competitive.

LOL Huh? The Pisswasser Dominator is an upgrade from the original in every aspect, no problem or difficulty whatsoever.

[SickBoy]

 

 

Dominator Racecar edges out the Sabre Turbo Custom.

The problem with the Dominator Stock Car is that it's quite difficult to get round a track quickly without a fair amount of practice and learning how to drive it, whereas the Sabre Turbo is easier to drive with little to no practice, it has good grip around the corners and a good top speed to keep it going. Me, personally, I've started racing the Dukes, because though its the second fastest Muscle, I've never liked the look of the Sabre Turbo, and the Dukes is still a great car to drive and race, it has slightly better grip than the ST Custom, and the group of people i race with prefer using catch-up to make the race more interesting, so it's very competitive.

LOL Huh? The Pisswasser Dominator is an upgrade from the original in every aspect, no problem or difficulty whatsoever.

 

 

Yes, it is faster, and it has better acceleration, but the grip is barely, if at all, better than the standard Dominator, which makes it just as much of a problem to drive with speed, if not more so.

[DominusTaranis]

 

 

 

Dominator Racecar edges out the Sabre Turbo Custom.

The problem with the Dominator Stock Car is that it's quite difficult to get round a track quickly without a fair amount of practice and learning how to drive it, whereas the Sabre Turbo is easier to drive with little to no practice, it has good grip around the corners and a good top speed to keep it going. Me, personally, I've started racing the Dukes, because though its the second fastest Muscle, I've never liked the look of the Sabre Turbo, and the Dukes is still a great car to drive and race, it has slightly better grip than the ST Custom, and the group of people i race with prefer using catch-up to make the race more interesting, so it's very competitive.

LOL Huh? The Pisswasser Dominator is an upgrade from the original in every aspect, no problem or difficulty whatsoever.

 

Yes, it is faster, and it has better acceleration, but the grip is barely, if at all, better than the standard Dominator, which makes it just as much of a problem to drive with speed, if not more so.

It's easy enough to learn to drive a cehicle. Pick your favorite track, pick the stock variant, and tear into it. If you like the car, there you go. If not, rinse and repeat. Then repeat after you mod it. Saber Custom, IMO is not worth the price tag when any skilled racer can do just as well with the rest of the top tier cars.

[Mach1bud]

I own both cars. I don't know what people are talking about saying the Sabre Turbo Custom has good traction. That thing is the most slidey, unstable thing out there. Any little bump upsets the car. I hate racing it tbh. I can pull good laps but it feels like a freaking workout.

 

The Dominators on the other hand, are glued to the road by comparison. At least in my opinion. Especially the racecar version. Idk, maybe I have just raced so damn much that I don't notice anymore. What I do notice, is randoms sliding the Sabre Custom into the wall on the first corner of every Muscle race.

[-LN-]

 

 

All spoilers have the same effect--I went without the spoiler because I wanted my Dukes to have more of a traditional, mostly stock look.

Not true. Different spoilers have different effects. More than often than not the most expensive and taller ones off the best grip.

 

 

Interesting; I had always heard from a variety of sources that they were essentially the same aside from the cosmetic factor. By the way, I'm not doubting what you say--I myself can't tell much (or any) difference in the grip though. Either way, I can't stand those huge Carbon Wing style spoilers, so I'll sacrifice a bit of grip in favour of style.

 

 

I own both cars. I don't know what people are talking about saying the Sabre Turbo Custom has good traction. That thing is the most slidey, unstable thing out there. Any little bump upsets the car. I hate racing it tbh. I can pull good laps but it feels like a freaking workout.

 

The Dominators on the other hand, are glued to the road by comparison. At least in my opinion. Especially the racecar version. Idk, maybe I have just raced so damn much that I don't notice anymore. What I do notice, is randoms sliding the Sabre Custom into the wall on the first corner of every Muscle race.

 

Controlling the Sabre Turbo is definitely a workout; it's practically useless in the rain. I too own it and use it for racing, but I'm more inclined to choose the Blade if the track isn't made up of so many straights. I tried using the Sabre Turbo during the 'Duel' stunt race and that was a complete disaster. The Blade, however, was the complete opposite--it handled the track insanely well. I've yet to try the Dominator racecar though; perhaps I'll give it a try sometime this week. I really don't like the racing liveries though!

Edited July 28, 2016 by LN-MLB

[Mach1bud]

The Blade is defintely the king of traction in the Muscle class for sure.

[nido997]

I only won 3 or 4 times in the Muscle stunt races , but all of them were with the Redwood Gauntlet . I think for the Duel stunt race you don t need speed , you just need a muscle car that handles well without sliding too much(so that you won t brake too much) . even with the Burger stallion you still have a shot !

[Talyllyn]

I took my Dukes into the Muscle races. It's not bad.

[gtarusty]

This thing reeks of muscle

 

 

 

I missed out on this, buy the time my xbox one showed up the update was gone.......... I hope it comes back next halloween

[reform]

 

All spoilers have the same effect--I went without the spoiler because I wanted my Dukes to have more of a traditional, mostly stock look.

Not true. Different spoilers have different effects. More than often than not the most expensive and taller ones off the best grip.

 

 

Interesting; I had always heard from a variety of sources that they were essentially the same aside from the cosmetic factor. By the way, I'm not doubting what you say--I myself can't tell much (or any) difference in the grip though. Either way, I can't stand those huge Carbon Wing style spoilers, so I'll sacrifice a bit of grip in favour of style.

 

 

 

 

You should doubt what he says because he's totally wrong and you were basically right.

 

All non-stock spoilers add the same amount of traction (some cars get more traction from spoilers than others, just like some cars get more acceleration from turbo than others).

 

There are some exceptions in the form of the three new supers (and I think one of the new sports rally cars). The non-stock spoilers on these cars are not an outright traction boost, but a downforce multiplier instead, and all non-stock spoilers for these new cars have the same effect for each car, but once again, some cars get a more significant downforce multiplier than others.

[Above Omnipotence]

 

 

 

Dominator Racecar edges out the Sabre Turbo Custom.

The problem with the Dominator Stock Car is that it's quite difficult to get round a track quickly without a fair amount of practice and learning how to drive it, whereas the Sabre Turbo is easier to drive with little to no practice, it has good grip around the corners and a good top speed to keep it going. Me, personally, I've started racing the Dukes, because though its the second fastest Muscle, I've never liked the look of the Sabre Turbo, and the Dukes is still a great car to drive and race, it has slightly better grip than the ST Custom, and the group of people i race with prefer using catch-up to make the race more interesting, so it's very competitive.

LOL Huh? The Pisswasser Dominator is an upgrade from the original in every aspect, no problem or difficulty whatsoever.

 

Yes, it is faster, and it has better acceleration, but the grip is barely, if at all, better than the standard Dominator, which makes it just as much of a problem to drive with speed, if not more so.

No, it's better in EVERY aspect/department, vastly nothing wrong with the grip. You're imagining things. LOL

 

Also, Sabre Turbo Custom has amazing traction. Blade has the 2nd. best traction in the muscle class, 1st. spot belongs to the Nightshade, regardless of its slowness.

[Mach1bud]

 

 

 

All spoilers have the same effect--I went without the spoiler because I wanted my Dukes to have more of a traditional, mostly stock look.

Not true. Different spoilers have different effects. More than often than not the most expensive and taller ones off the best grip.

 

Interesting; I had always heard from a variety of sources that they were essentially the same aside from the cosmetic factor. By the way, I'm not doubting what you say--I myself can't tell much (or any) difference in the grip though. Either way, I can't stand those huge Carbon Wing style spoilers, so I'll sacrifice a bit of grip in favour of style.

 

 

You should doubt what he says because he's totally wrong and you were basically right.

 

All non-stock spoilers add the same amount of traction (some cars get more traction from spoilers than others, just like some cars get more acceleration from turbo than others).

 

There are some exceptions in the form of the three new supers (and I think one of the new sports rally cars). The non-stock spoilers on these cars are not an outright traction boost, but a downforce multiplier instead, and all non-stock spoilers for these new cars have the same effect for each car, but once again, some cars get a more significant downforce multiplier than others.

I'm inclined to believe emptyplayer on this one.

 

As far as I am concerned, one of the best racers on the planet.

 

Edit: The Nightshade does have awesome traction.

Edited July 29, 2016 by Mach1bud

[blusunone]

Supposedly it is the sabre turbo custom, but i dont think i have ever seen one in a race before, nor have i used the one i own. Dominator is awesome, hard to handle but man is it fast and fun to drive. Also looks really cool too. I traded it for the pisswasser dominator since it is supposedly the same car but faster, but i really miss seeing my plain dominator in my garage and just driving around for fun. Maybe i will get one for my other character, just to have fun with.

[junkpile]

Personal preference:

The imponte

Dukes

Ruiner

Phoenix

 

Love the performance, looks and the sound.

[-LN-]

 

 

 

All spoilers have the same effect--I went without the spoiler because I wanted my Dukes to have more of a traditional, mostly stock look.

 

Not true. Different spoilers have different effects. More than often than not the most expensive and taller ones off the best grip.

 

Interesting; I had always heard from a variety of sources that they were essentially the same aside from the cosmetic factor. By the way, I'm not doubting what you say--I myself can't tell much (or any) difference in the grip though. Either way, I can't stand those huge Carbon Wing style spoilers, so I'll sacrifice a bit of grip in favour of style.

 

 

You should doubt what he says because he's totally wrong and you were basically right.

 

All non-stock spoilers add the same amount of traction (some cars get more traction from spoilers than others, just like some cars get more acceleration from turbo than others).

 

There are some exceptions in the form of the three new supers (and I think one of the new sports rally cars). The non-stock spoilers on these cars are not an outright traction boost, but a downforce multiplier instead, and all non-stock spoilers for these new cars have the same effect for each car, but once again, some cars get a more significant downforce multiplier than others.

 

 

 

 

All spoilers have the same effect--I went without the spoiler because I wanted my Dukes to have more of a traditional, mostly stock look.

Not true. Different spoilers have different effects. More than often than not the most expensive and taller ones off the best grip.

 

Interesting; I had always heard from a variety of sources that they were essentially the same aside from the cosmetic factor. By the way, I'm not doubting what you say--I myself can't tell much (or any) difference in the grip though. Either way, I can't stand those huge Carbon Wing style spoilers, so I'll sacrifice a bit of grip in favour of style.

 

 

You should doubt what he says because he's totally wrong and you were basically right.

 

All non-stock spoilers add the same amount of traction (some cars get more traction from spoilers than others, just like some cars get more acceleration from turbo than others).

 

There are some exceptions in the form of the three new supers (and I think one of the new sports rally cars). The non-stock spoilers on these cars are not an outright traction boost, but a downforce multiplier instead, and all non-stock spoilers for these new cars have the same effect for each car, but once again, some cars get a more significant downforce multiplier than others.

I'm inclined to believe emptyplayer on this one.

As far as I am concerned, one of the best racers on the planet.

Edit: The Nightshade does have awesome traction.

Well, if I am wrong (which I can admit), I still honestly can't tell a difference. It could all be a placebo effect; either way, it does make sense that they would affect certain cars differently.

 

With that said, it's a bit like adding off-road wheels to all racing cars for the pavement surfing advantage; sure it may work somewhat more effectively, but it looks tacky and tasteless--not something I would be interested in doing. Then again, I don't go out of my way to ride the pavement. As for spoilers, I'll continue to opt for the smaller ones (or none) and run the potential risk of losing a fraction of the amount of grip over having my car look like some sort of spacecraft on wheels.

 

I'm not really into overly competitive racing in this game anymore though, so thoughts and opinions may vary.

Edited July 29, 2016 by LN-MLB

[SickBoy]

 

 

 

 

Dominator Racecar edges out the Sabre Turbo Custom.

The problem with the Dominator Stock Car is that it's quite difficult to get round a track quickly without a fair amount of practice and learning how to drive it, whereas the Sabre Turbo is easier to drive with little to no practice, it has good grip around the corners and a good top speed to keep it going. Me, personally, I've started racing the Dukes, because though its the second fastest Muscle, I've never liked the look of the Sabre Turbo, and the Dukes is still a great car to drive and race, it has slightly better grip than the ST Custom, and the group of people i race with prefer using catch-up to make the race more interesting, so it's very competitive.

LOL Huh? The Pisswasser Dominator is an upgrade from the original in every aspect, no problem or difficulty whatsoever.

 

Yes, it is faster, and it has better acceleration, but the grip is barely, if at all, better than the standard Dominator, which makes it just as much of a problem to drive with speed, if not more so.

No, it's better in EVERY aspect/department, vastly nothing wrong with the grip. You're imagining things. LOL

 

Also, Sabre Turbo Custom has amazing traction. Blade has the 2nd. best traction in the muscle class, 1st. spot belongs to the Nightshade, regardless of its slowness.

 

 

Agree to disagree, you find it easy to handle, not everyone else does, even the guy most people look to for legitimate and thorough testing of cars, Broughy, knows it's a struggle to drive without tons of practice.

[emptyplayer]

 

 

 

All spoilers have the same effect--I went without the spoiler because I wanted my Dukes to have more of a traditional, mostly stock look.

Not true. Different spoilers have different effects. More than often than not the most expensive and taller ones off the best grip.

 

Interesting; I had always heard from a variety of sources that they were essentially the same aside from the cosmetic factor. By the way, I'm not doubting what you say--I myself can't tell much (or any) difference in the grip though. Either way, I can't stand those huge Carbon Wing style spoilers, so I'll sacrifice a bit of grip in favour of style.

 

 

I own both cars. I don't know what people are talking about saying the Sabre Turbo Custom has good traction. That thing is the most slidey, unstable thing out there. Any little bump upsets the car. I hate racing it tbh. I can pull good laps but it feels like a freaking workout.

 

The Dominators on the other hand, are glued to the road by comparison. At least in my opinion. Especially the racecar version. Idk, maybe I have just raced so damn much that I don't notice anymore. What I do notice, is randoms sliding the Sabre Custom into the wall on the first corner of every Muscle race.

Controlling the Sabre Turbo is definitely a workout; it's practically useless in the rain. I too own it and use it for racing, but I'm more inclined to choose the Blade if the track isn't made up of so many straights. I tried using the Sabre Turbo during the 'Duel' stunt race and that was a complete disaster. The Blade, however, was the complete opposite--it handled the track insanely well. I've yet to try the Dominator racecar though; perhaps I'll give it a try sometime this week. I really don't like the racing liveries though!

Try (if you have one) an FMJ with the small spoiler and then again with the most expensive and see if you notice it on that car. I found it really noticeable on that.

 

 

 

All spoilers have the same effect--I went without the spoiler because I wanted my Dukes to have more of a traditional, mostly stock look.

Not true. Different spoilers have different effects. More than often than not the most expensive and taller ones off the best grip.

 

Interesting; I had always heard from a variety of sources that they were essentially the same aside from the cosmetic factor. By the way, I'm not doubting what you say--I myself can't tell much (or any) difference in the grip though. Either way, I can't stand those huge Carbon Wing style spoilers, so I'll sacrifice a bit of grip in favour of style.

 

 

You should doubt what he says because he's totally wrong and you were basically right.

 

All non-stock spoilers add the same amount of traction (some cars get more traction from spoilers than others, just like some cars get more acceleration from turbo than others).

 

There are some exceptions in the form of the three new supers (and I think one of the new sports rally cars). The non-stock spoilers on these cars are not an outright traction boost, but a downforce multiplier instead, and all non-stock spoilers for these new cars have the same effect for each car, but once again, some cars get a more significant downforce multiplier than others.

 

You should doubt what he says because he's totally wrong and you were basically right.

 

All non-stock spoilers add the same amount of traction (some cars get more traction from spoilers than others, just like some cars get more acceleration from turbo than others).

 

There are some exceptions in the form of the three new supers (and I think one of the new sports rally cars). The non-stock spoilers on these cars are not an outright traction boost, but a downforce multiplier instead, and all non-stock spoilers for these new cars have the same effect for each car, but once again, some cars get a more significant downforce multiplier than others.

I assume you have done lots and lots of testing with each car to confirm this?

 

Out of my 8500 races and 80 something cars I can instantly tell if the spoilers have a difference ( I play this game too much!). The recent FMJ is a prime example of this. Many in my crew, Red Rum Racing have the same view.

Edited July 29, 2016 by emptyplayer

[No Use For A Name]

If you wanna know whether or not different spoilers make a difference, try out the first (color coded) and last spoiler for the Jester race car. There's definitely a difference

[Incorgnito]

I beleive the difference between spoilers has to do with collision and modelling mass and how they affect the car's CG. Bigger spoilers will create more rear end grip at the risk of understeering, vice versa for smaller spoilers. It's such a minute variation in handling though, and you need a lot of driving time to understand it and get the best out of them. In my opinion you can get a lot more out of a cars handling via different suspension and brake levels.

 

On topic I use my Sabre Turbo Custom in races. Don't own a Dominator anymore and I'm not planning on making room right away. It is more work to drive the Sabre but if you can put down smooth lines then you'll have no troubles hanging with the pack or putting yourself ahead of the pack.

[Above Omnipotence]

 

 

 

 

 

Dominator Racecar edges out the Sabre Turbo Custom.

The problem with the Dominator Stock Car is that it's quite difficult to get round a track quickly without a fair amount of practice and learning how to drive it, whereas the Sabre Turbo is easier to drive with little to no practice, it has good grip around the corners and a good top speed to keep it going. Me, personally, I've started racing the Dukes, because though its the second fastest Muscle, I've never liked the look of the Sabre Turbo, and the Dukes is still a great car to drive and race, it has slightly better grip than the ST Custom, and the group of people i race with prefer using catch-up to make the race more interesting, so it's very competitive.

LOL Huh? The Pisswasser Dominator is an upgrade from the original in every aspect, no problem or difficulty whatsoever.

 

Yes, it is faster, and it has better acceleration, but the grip is barely, if at all, better than the standard Dominator, which makes it just as much of a problem to drive with speed, if not more so.

No, it's better in EVERY aspect/department, vastly nothing wrong with the grip. You're imagining things. LOL

 

Also, Sabre Turbo Custom has amazing traction. Blade has the 2nd. best traction in the muscle class, 1st. spot belongs to the Nightshade, regardless of its slowness.

 

Agree to disagree, you find it easy to handle, not everyone else does, even the guy most people look to for legitimate and thorough testing of cars, Broughy, knows it's a struggle to drive without tons of practice.

Every one of us that races competitively knows it's easier to handle than the original Dominator, as it's an upgrade in every aspect, as well as folks that doesn't race competitively, fact. The only people that needs tons of practice with this vehicle are the ones that don't even race and wants to get into racing. The exact same thing goes for the Sabre Turbo Custom, Roosevelt Valor, and more.

[SickBoy]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dominator Racecar edges out the Sabre Turbo Custom.

The problem with the Dominator Stock Car is that it's quite difficult to get round a track quickly without a fair amount of practice and learning how to drive it, whereas the Sabre Turbo is easier to drive with little to no practice, it has good grip around the corners and a good top speed to keep it going. Me, personally, I've started racing the Dukes, because though its the second fastest Muscle, I've never liked the look of the Sabre Turbo, and the Dukes is still a great car to drive and race, it has slightly better grip than the ST Custom, and the group of people i race with prefer using catch-up to make the race more interesting, so it's very competitive.

LOL Huh? The Pisswasser Dominator is an upgrade from the original in every aspect, no problem or difficulty whatsoever.

 

Yes, it is faster, and it has better acceleration, but the grip is barely, if at all, better than the standard Dominator, which makes it just as much of a problem to drive with speed, if not more so.

No, it's better in EVERY aspect/department, vastly nothing wrong with the grip. You're imagining things. LOL

 

Also, Sabre Turbo Custom has amazing traction. Blade has the 2nd. best traction in the muscle class, 1st. spot belongs to the Nightshade, regardless of its slowness.

 

Agree to disagree, you find it easy to handle, not everyone else does, even the guy most people look to for legitimate and thorough testing of cars, Broughy, knows it's a struggle to drive without tons of practice.

Every one of us that races competitively knows it's easier to handle than the original Dominator, as it's an upgrade in every aspect, as well as folks that doesn't race competitively, fact. The only people that needs tons of practice with this vehicle are the ones that don't even race and wants to get into racing. The exact same thing goes for the Sabre Turbo Custom, Roosevelt Valor, and more.

 

 

This is your opinion. My opinion is different, and that's perfectly acceptable. Like i said, agree to disagree.