So many hackers now.. every instance has them

[Seedy]

cuz you should just forget GTA Online just like how R* forgot Single Player. GTA Online has become a grindfest shark card cashcow

Ive been having decent fun on GTA recently playing heists and running round freemode but there are still obvious hacker issues. People are saying play in set up lobbies but I like to play with randoms moslty so lobbies is out of the question pretty much. I dont get why rockstar has made the game so easy to modify in the first place. Surely they could protect the code with encryption before release?

[BlaringFiddle]

Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) supposedly works well (so I hear). They could have used that in conjunction with Steam. Unfortunately, that would have meant that the game was only distributed via Steam. Some people hate Steam (for some reason). So they didn't do that. I imaging VAC works so well as the Steam service itself is doing the monitoring (ie: an outside process is watch dogging the process it launched).

[Zailix]

As a modder myself, The rumors ARE true, injection method is now cracked by Rockstar, just got a 10 day ban, haha

Went online to see if it was true... First F'ing session I go into, someone in chat asked for a modder, and one replied. later they talked in chat about witch methods dont work anymore on GTA online. Seriously, just as i thought there was hope

[BlaringFiddle]

 

As a modder myself, The rumors ARE true, injection method is now cracked by Rockstar, just got a 10 day ban, haha

Went online to see if it was true... First F'ing session I go into, someone in chat asked for a modder, and one replied. later they talked in chat about witch methods dont work anymore on GTA online. Seriously, just as i thought there was hope

 

did you report?

[ClareXoBearrx3R9]

 

cuz you should just forget GTA Online just like how R* forgot Single Player. GTA Online has become a grindfest shark card cashcow

Ive been having decent fun on GTA recently playing heists and running round freemode but there are still obvious hacker issues. People are saying play in set up lobbies but I like to play with randoms moslty so lobbies is out of the question pretty much. I dont get why rockstar has made the game so easy to modify in the first place. Surely they could protect the code with encryption before release?

 

 

They did later introduce obfuscation. This is moot though, since all programs will eventually need to be 'plain-jane' once running.

 

Anyhow, proper anti-cheat in fairness is not easy. But that is why most companies pay experienced people to take care of it for them. Nearly everything in this GTAO that shouldn't be client-sided is client-sided. They will have to redesign quite a bit of it to change that, which won't be something we'll be seeing anytime soon. Next GTA possibly, but then again, back when I was playing GTA IV, I thought they would have done an overhaul in the MP system. They did make improvements, but nothing of extreme value to significantly secure their system, sadly.

[Bitsey]

Well, yesterday was my lucky day. Was playing a bit of everything, with randoms even, a heist and I've spent lots of time in crowded sessions. Didn't have a single cheater/griefer incident, noticed only a few ape sh*t crazy ranting turds and after pwning a try hard rank 800 (wtf), I called it a day. It has been a long time since GTAO was so much fun!

 

So as curious as I am, I took a look at R*'s community support site and it turns out that there are hundreds of peeps claiming to be banned for no reason. It's so many that it's hard to believe that all of them are liars. However, as it turns out, most of them have either their stats hidden or being called out for statistical anomalies. Also many already received their 2nd or 3rd ban after just being back from their first offense. And ofc it's often another cheater's fault for dropping a sh*tload of money upon them. Well, maybe that really triggers the cheat protection but I must say, I keep dodging money bags since PC release and it probably adds up to 3 million, which I didn't ask for. But I'm always reasonable enough to just leave as fast as possible. I didn't get into trouble so far. Also, R* actually never removed any monies from my account either.

 

Maybe R* is indeed banning people which receive extraordinary amounts of cash drops. Something along the lines of "ignorance is no excuse". But even better, maybe anything suspicious (like money drops) causes R*'s scanner to take the whole stats history into account all over again. Like some sort of half-assed approach towards a zero tolerance policy. Or maybe I just love the idea that even previous cheater have it coming. Or maybe by tomorrow I'm one of those complaining about a ban for no reason. Blah...

[theNGclan]

Played yesterday and the day before with no cheaters. Seems pretty good now. Hope it stays this way.

[Jeffrowxpmax]

I always have to steal the fighter jet. How are people spawning it?

 

It's been much better, but I think their still there, just keeping a low profile. Maybe it use to be cool to mod, but really nothing cool about it and everything wrong about it. Sort of like a cross to a gay ol time and how things change, haha.

Edited January 30, 2016 by Jeffrowxpmax

[Seedy]

yea modding was cool years ago when people did it to benefit the game - now people mod to benefit them selves and to have an adverse effect on everyone elses game

[theNGclan]

I always have to steal the fighter jet. How are people spawning it?

 

It's been much better, but I think their still there, just keeping a low profile. Maybe it use to be cool to mod, but really nothing cool about it and everything wrong about it. Sort of like a cross to a gay ol time and how things change, haha.

You can buy the hydra.

[kvic]

yea modding was cool years ago when people did it to benefit the game - now people mod to benefit them selves and to have an adverse effect on everyone elses game

That is called HACKING not MODDING!!

[XenoxX]

Yea instead of banning actual modders they are banning ME....ME!?

A person who absolutely despises all kinds of hacking/glitching, and the only "hack tool" I used was to PREVENT Hackers and stop them from harrassing me...

 

It has gotten ridicouless...

[Jeffrowxpmax]

 

I always have to steal the fighter jet. How are people spawning it?

 

It's been much better, but I think their still there, just keeping a low profile. Maybe it use to be cool to mod, but really nothing cool about it and everything wrong about it. Sort of like a cross to a gay ol time and how things change, haha.

You can buy the hydra.

 

So I hear, but how?

[XenoxX]

 

 

I always have to steal the fighter jet. How are people spawning it?

 

It's been much better, but I think their still there, just keeping a low profile. Maybe it use to be cool to mod, but really nothing cool about it and everything wrong about it. Sort of like a cross to a gay ol time and how things change, haha.

You can buy the hydra.

 

So I hear, but how?

 

You need to complete the Human Labs Heist in order to unlock it, when you are able to buy it at Warstock Cache & Carry.

[ClareXoBearrx3R9]

Yea instead of banning actual modders they are banning ME....ME!?

 

A person who absolutely despises all kinds of hacking/glitching, and the only "hack tool" I used was to PREVENT Hackers and stop them from harrassing me...

 

It has gotten ridicouless...

 

Yup, it's sad really. Oh well, I tried I guess. Rockstar should have paid the proper company to do their anti-cheat for them anyway, or should have finished working on it before releasing it on PC- then we wouldn't be in such a mess.

[XenoxX]

 

Yea instead of banning actual modders they are banning ME....ME!?

 

A person who absolutely despises all kinds of hacking/glitching, and the only "hack tool" I used was to PREVENT Hackers and stop them from harrassing me...

 

It has gotten ridicouless...

 

Yup, it's sad really. Oh well, I tried I guess. Rockstar should have paid the proper company to do their anti-cheat for them anyway, or should have finished working on it before releasing it on PC- then we wouldn't be in such a mess.

 

I gotta know though did other users of your tool also got banned?

Or was the ban from me related to other things, since I didn't use the tool since like a month.

 

I also suspect a modder who could have mass reported me or something else,..

Edited January 30, 2016 by XenoxX

[theNGclan]

 

 

Yea instead of banning actual modders they are banning ME....ME!?

 

A person who absolutely despises all kinds of hacking/glitching, and the only "hack tool" I used was to PREVENT Hackers and stop them from harrassing me...

 

It has gotten ridicouless...

Yup, it's sad really. Oh well, I tried I guess. Rockstar should have paid the proper company to do their anti-cheat for them anyway, or should have finished working on it before releasing it on PC- then we wouldn't be in such a mess.

 

I gotta know though did other users of your tool also got banned?

Or was the ban from me related to other things, since I didn't use the tool since like a month.

 

I also suspect a modder who could have mass reported me or something else,..

Players were banned for using injections in Online. You used an injection to have a tool online and there is ninety to determine whether or not the tool you used was for cheating or not (from the injection detection's POV).

 

Hate to say it, but you should've known the risk.

[XenoxX]

 

 

 

Yea instead of banning actual modders they are banning ME....ME!?

 

A person who absolutely despises all kinds of hacking/glitching, and the only "hack tool" I used was to PREVENT Hackers and stop them from harrassing me...

 

It has gotten ridicouless...

Yup, it's sad really. Oh well, I tried I guess. Rockstar should have paid the proper company to do their anti-cheat for them anyway, or should have finished working on it before releasing it on PC- then we wouldn't be in such a mess.

 

I gotta know though did other users of your tool also got banned?

Or was the ban from me related to other things, since I didn't use the tool since like a month.

 

I also suspect a modder who could have mass reported me or something else,..

Players were banned for using injections in Online. You used an injection to have a tool online and there is ninety to determine whether or not the tool you used was for cheating or not (from the injection detection's POV).

 

Hate to say it, but you should've known the risk.

 

I knew the risk and I (kind of) accept my ban, I just wanted to know if other players were banned as well for using injection and/or Extended Information Security, and that question you (kind of) answered I guess...

So injection mods are detected now?

[Spider-Vice]

At least they aren't banning people for using RTSS, used by MSI Afterburner and Rivatuner.

[Jeffrowxpmax]

 

 

 

I always have to steal the fighter jet. How are people spawning it?

 

It's been much better, but I think their still there, just keeping a low profile. Maybe it use to be cool to mod, but really nothing cool about it and everything wrong about it. Sort of like a cross to a gay ol time and how things change, haha.

You can buy the hydra.

 

So I hear, but how?

 

You need to complete the Human Labs Heist in order to unlock it, when you are able to buy it at Warstock Cache & Carry.

Baa, spoiled by another mission. Might be different if I played well with others, haha. Thanks.

Edited January 30, 2016 by Jeffrowxpmax

[theNGclan]

 

 

 

 

Yea instead of banning actual modders they are banning ME....ME!?

 

A person who absolutely despises all kinds of hacking/glitching, and the only "hack tool" I used was to PREVENT Hackers and stop them from harrassing me...

 

It has gotten ridicouless...

Yup, it's sad really. Oh well, I tried I guess. Rockstar should have paid the proper company to do their anti-cheat for them anyway, or should have finished working on it before releasing it on PC- then we wouldn't be in such a mess.

 

I gotta know though did other users of your tool also got banned?

Or was the ban from me related to other things, since I didn't use the tool since like a month.

 

I also suspect a modder who could have mass reported me or something else,..

Players were banned for using injections in Online. You used an injection to have a tool online and there is ninety to determine whether or not the tool you used was for cheating or not (from the injection detection's POV).

 

Hate to say it, but you should've known the risk.

 

I knew the risk and I (kind of) accept my ban, I just wanted to know if other players were banned as well for using injection and/or Extended Information Security, and that question you (kind of) answered I guess...

So injection mods are detected now?

 

Yes. Cheaters can still get in, but they're banned fairly quickly.

[ClareXoBearrx3R9]

 

 

 

 

Yea instead of banning actual modders they are banning ME....ME!?

 

A person who absolutely despises all kinds of hacking/glitching, and the only "hack tool" I used was to PREVENT Hackers and stop them from harrassing me...

 

It has gotten ridicouless...

Yup, it's sad really. Oh well, I tried I guess. Rockstar should have paid the proper company to do their anti-cheat for them anyway, or should have finished working on it before releasing it on PC- then we wouldn't be in such a mess.

 

I gotta know though did other users of your tool also got banned?

Or was the ban from me related to other things, since I didn't use the tool since like a month.

 

I also suspect a modder who could have mass reported me or something else,..

Players were banned for using injections in Online. You used an injection to have a tool online and there is ninety to determine whether or not the tool you used was for cheating or not (from the injection detection's POV).

 

Hate to say it, but you should've known the risk.

 

I knew the risk and I (kind of) accept my ban, I just wanted to know if other players were banned as well for using injection and/or Extended Information Security, and that question you (kind of) answered I guess...

So injection mods are detected now?

 

 

Sorry for the late reply.

 

Despite rumors, the injection methods themselves are still not detected. However, there are other properties of the mods floating around that are detected. I won't go into detail since I do not condone cheating and I know if I were to say it, there would probably be an influx of new "mods" getting released for the sole purposes of cheating and griefing.

 

Anyhow, to answer your question- yes. Unfortunately starting January 15th, people started to acquire bans from actively using my software; anyone who used it prior to that date was fine. I posted an updated announcement the next day, stating that the download was no longer safe for the time being, so hopefully people saw it. Further, I have intentionally not updated it for 1.32 for the sake of safety reasons. I have a backup solution in mind if "sh*t hits the fan" again with cheaters, but for now it seems things are so-so Online.

[JamesTKirk]

Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) supposedly works well (so I hear). They could have used that in conjunction with Steam. Unfortunately, that would have meant that the game was only distributed via Steam. Some people hate Steam (for some reason). So they didn't do that. I imaging VAC works so well as the Steam service itself is doing the monitoring (ie: an outside process is watch dogging the process it launched).

 

It's not that I hate Steam. I use Steam for many games.

 

However, the big problem with Steam is that it takes over your games - you are no longer in charge.

 

Example #1: I buy GTA V thru Steam, but when I go to play the game and Steam is down (offline), I am out of luck. I cannot play the game I paid for. Steam has taken control.

Example #2: I buy GTA V from a retail store like BestBuy. Now, when Steam goes down, I am NOT out of luck... because I DIDN'T give Steam control over me and over my gaming. When Steam goes down, I can still play the game.

 

Understand? This is why I will ALWAYS (when given the chance) buy the retail version of a game instead of the Steam version.

 

You might think this scenario (Steam being offline) is rare, however, in my experience, it is not rare enough that we never have to worry about it. It's quite a bit more common than Steam would care to admit.

[BlaringFiddle]

 

Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) supposedly works well (so I hear). They could have used that in conjunction with Steam. Unfortunately, that would have meant that the game was only distributed via Steam. Some people hate Steam (for some reason). So they didn't do that. I imaging VAC works so well as the Steam service itself is doing the monitoring (ie: an outside process is watch dogging the process it launched).

 

It's not that I hate Steam. I use Steam for many games.

 

However, the big problem with Steam is that it takes over your games - you are no longer in charge.

 

Example #1: I buy GTA V thru Steam, but when I go to play the game and Steam is down (offline), I am out of luck. I cannot play the game I paid for. Steam has taken control.

Example #2: I buy GTA V from a retail store like BestBuy. Now, when Steam goes down, I am NOT out of luck... because I DIDN'T give Steam control over me and over my gaming. When Steam goes down, I can still play the game.

 

Understand? This is why I will ALWAYS (when given the chance) buy the retail version of a game instead of the Steam version.

 

You might think this scenario (Steam being offline) is rare, however, in my experience, it is not rare enough that we never have to worry about it. It's quite a bit more common than Steam would care to admit.

 

 

You can still play - not indefinitely, but you can play for a time without checking in with Steam ... or so I hear ... i've actually never not been able to connect to steam to find out if that is true...

 

It should be noted that I've been using Steam since its inception when the entire purpose of the service was to get Counter-strike 1.5 and prevent cheating..

Edited February 2, 2016 by BlaringFiddle

[BlaringFiddle]

so ... hackers are back now. Encountered them all weekend. Its still not as bad as it was, but I expect it to only be a matter of time until we are back to invite only sessions to avoid the rampant spawning of items and so on like before ...

 

One godmode hacker who was harassing us was mocking us for reporting him. He said the last six times he has been reported and nothing has happened. So, I guess they stopped caring about hacking again?

[M.K.N.]

Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) supposedly works well (so I hear). They could have used that in conjunction with Steam. Unfortunately, that would have meant that the game was only distributed via Steam. Some people hate Steam (for some reason). So they didn't do that. I imaging VAC works so well as the Steam service itself is doing the monitoring (ie: an outside process is watch dogging the process it launched).

 

Now R* is regretting their decision in not implementing VAC for GTA V on PC, which allowed hackers to run amok at free will and receive no punishment. More of a slap on the wrist than on the face, to put it simply.

 

As far as Steam goes, its one-of-a-kind. Origin, UPlay, the defunct GFWL and other poorly-made DRMs from different devs (and R* Social Club) are considerably worse and provide no assistance whatsoever. R* is clearly following EA's and Ubisoft's footsteps and has failed to realize that they're betraying to even their own longtime fans. In the end, all they care about is money (and implementing updates that does little) instead of dealing with hackers and broken servers alike.

Edited February 16, 2016 by M.K.N.

[XenoxX]

 

Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) supposedly works well (so I hear). They could have used that in conjunction with Steam. Unfortunately, that would have meant that the game was only distributed via Steam. Some people hate Steam (for some reason). So they didn't do that. I imaging VAC works so well as the Steam service itself is doing the monitoring (ie: an outside process is watch dogging the process it launched).

 

Now R* is regretting their decision in not implementing VAC for GTA V on PC, which allowed hackers to run amok at free will and receive no punishment. More of a slap on the wrist than on the face, to put it simply.

 

As far as Steam goes, its one-of-a-kind. Origin, UPlay, the defunct GFWL and other poorly-made DRMs from different devs (and R* Social Club) are considerably worse and provide no assistance whatsoever. R* is clearly following EA's and Ubisoft's footsteps and has failed to realize that they're betraying to even their own longtime fans. In the end, all they care about is money (and implementing updates that does little) instead of dealing with hackers and broken servers alike.

 

VAC wouldn't have fixed anything btw. its just as bad, just not as obvious.

 

SC is also way better than Uplay and/or Origin as it is no direct client, but rather a window which pops up for exactly 4 seconds before starting the game, afterwards you never have to deal with it again.

 

However I just encountered a hacker on a Server again, I hope they do something to fix it again.

Btw. they are not doing "nothing" they are constantly releasing security Updates but its a never ending cycle:

R* releases security patch -> hackers find a way around -> R* releases security patch -> hackers find a way around.

Lately they seem to have gotten the hang on it so I hope R* pushes their Security again so I can play without stupid modders.

 

Also in case you didn't know EVERY COMPANY cares about money, and saying that "ALL" they care about is money would be wrong in my eyes, if they truly cared about money they would have a better security in place to protect their Shark Card sales...

[M.K.N.]

 

 

Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) supposedly works well (so I hear). They could have used that in conjunction with Steam. Unfortunately, that would have meant that the game was only distributed via Steam. Some people hate Steam (for some reason). So they didn't do that. I imaging VAC works so well as the Steam service itself is doing the monitoring (ie: an outside process is watch dogging the process it launched).

 

Now R* is regretting their decision in not implementing VAC for GTA V on PC, which allowed hackers to run amok at free will and receive no punishment. More of a slap on the wrist than on the face, to put it simply.

 

As far as Steam goes, its one-of-a-kind. Origin, UPlay, the defunct GFWL and other poorly-made DRMs from different devs (and R* Social Club) are considerably worse and provide no assistance whatsoever. R* is clearly following EA's and Ubisoft's footsteps and has failed to realize that they're betraying to even their own longtime fans. In the end, all they care about is money (and implementing updates that does little) instead of dealing with hackers and broken servers alike.

 

VAC wouldn't have fixed anything btw. its just as bad, just not as obvious.

 

SC is also way better than Uplay and/or Origin as it is no direct client, but rather a window which pops up for exactly 4 seconds before starting the game, afterwards you never have to deal with it again.

 

However I just encountered a hacker on a Server again, I hope they do something to fix it again.

Btw. they are not doing "nothing" they are constantly releasing security Updates but its a never ending cycle:

R* releases security patch -> hackers find a way around -> R* releases security patch -> hackers find a way around.

Lately they seem to have gotten the hang on it so I hope R* pushes their Security again so I can play without stupid modders.

 

Also in case you didn't know EVERY COMPANY cares about money, and saying that "ALL" they care about is money would be wrong in my eyes, if they truly cared about money they would have a better security in place to protect their Shark Card sales...

 

 

R* even earned BILLIONS from two years back from the release of GTA V. What more do they want, make trillions of dollars from Shark Cards being bought endlessly? Their level of greed are starting to show IMO.

Edited February 17, 2016 by M.K.N.

[XenoxX]

 

 

 

Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) supposedly works well (so I hear). They could have used that in conjunction with Steam. Unfortunately, that would have meant that the game was only distributed via Steam. Some people hate Steam (for some reason). So they didn't do that. I imaging VAC works so well as the Steam service itself is doing the monitoring (ie: an outside process is watch dogging the process it launched).

 

Now R* is regretting their decision in not implementing VAC for GTA V on PC, which allowed hackers to run amok at free will and receive no punishment. More of a slap on the wrist than on the face, to put it simply.

 

As far as Steam goes, its one-of-a-kind. Origin, UPlay, the defunct GFWL and other poorly-made DRMs from different devs (and R* Social Club) are considerably worse and provide no assistance whatsoever. R* is clearly following EA's and Ubisoft's footsteps and has failed to realize that they're betraying to even their own longtime fans. In the end, all they care about is money (and implementing updates that does little) instead of dealing with hackers and broken servers alike.

 

VAC wouldn't have fixed anything btw. its just as bad, just not as obvious.

 

SC is also way better than Uplay and/or Origin as it is no direct client, but rather a window which pops up for exactly 4 seconds before starting the game, afterwards you never have to deal with it again.

 

However I just encountered a hacker on a Server again, I hope they do something to fix it again.

Btw. they are not doing "nothing" they are constantly releasing security Updates but its a never ending cycle:

R* releases security patch -> hackers find a way around -> R* releases security patch -> hackers find a way around.

Lately they seem to have gotten the hang on it so I hope R* pushes their Security again so I can play without stupid modders.

 

Also in case you didn't know EVERY COMPANY cares about money, and saying that "ALL" they care about is money would be wrong in my eyes, if they truly cared about money they would have a better security in place to protect their Shark Card sales...

 

 

R* even earned BILLIONS from two years back from the release of GTA V. What more do they want, make trillions of dollars from Shark Cards being bought endlessly? Their level of greed are starting to show IMO.

 

Again R* is a business, a business has the goal to maximize profit, EVERY business has this goal, that shouldn't be any point of critic after all.

Also those billions they earned do not directly all reach up to them, there are many side costs etc.

 

What matters for me are good business practices, and IMO R* is offering good business practices, like releasing Free DLC which is financed by Shark Cards, only a small amount of the user base pays for the others.

Also their games are still mostly of absolute quality.

Only GTA Online let me down at release with all its problems and bugs, but IMO it has quiet improved into a fully fledged game that can stand on its own.

The only problem are the hackers, and R* is constantly developing Security Updates to get rid of them, but as they admitted themselfs its a NEVER ENDING fight.

[fefenc]

Ubistar cares about easy money, they don't wanna work hard to finish the cheaters off because this won't bring them any shark card money.