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The game is inherently fun to play, so "grinding" isn't something to complain about.

 

I support sharkcards, since it pays for continued DLC development. It is an alternative for those that don't have the time to play, but don't want to be a fraudulent cheater scumbag and want to indulge themselves in GTA digital assets.

 

"Grinding" is a self-inflicted wound. There are many, many game modes to play and ways to make money, which many are too dull-minded to touch, and instead take the fun out out the game by grinding the same missions and heists in the same way everytime, boring themselves to death.

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Did you ever think maybe part of the reason it's fun is because having to work for things balances it? Maybe if everything was unlocked quickly it wouldn't be fun?

It stops being fun if you have to work day and night for a month just to buy one thing. Lower the prices a good bit and then it'd be balanced.

 

Or maybe you/others are aiming too high?

People need to set realistic goals in regard to GTA V. Are you really gonna be able to afford the yacht in a timely matter if your income per hour is sub 100k?

 

Nope

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So , we are all agreed GTA:ONLINE should go pay to play monthly subscription?

I'm getting the same vibe
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why ohhhh why I have I not had the pleasure of this gif before???? LOL..

 

that's epic beyond words!!!

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Most people who defend shark cards as a way to fund GTAO believe these two statements:

 

The game is inherently fun to play, so "grinding" isn't something to complain about.

 

The game wouldn't be fun if everything were handed to you, so the high prices are justified.

 

HERE IT COMES...

 

If the game is inherently fun to play, then R* doesn't have to lock items behind a playing time wall or a shark card wall.

 

They would have nothing to worry about. The game is so fun, why would having all the fun items quickly ruin it?

 

They would have nothing to worry about. The game is so fun, why would having all the fun items quickly ruin it?

 

Sounds like you don't get concept. For most people in the real world, we get joy from possessions or experiences that cost money because it is a sacrifice, buying that item or doing that activity depletes scarce resources meaning that we won't be able to have or do something else. Economists call it opportunity cost. This simply doesn't exist when you can have whatever you want whenever you want it. It's why a lot of obscenely wealthy people report less satisfaction from the the purchase of an item or doing some expensive activity. Does that explain it any better?

 

And BTW, shark cards are irrelevant to this equation (as they are an option you don't need to utilize) except to say that you can circumvent the process I describe above by essentially making yourself the real life wealthy person who has in effect short circuited his enjoyment of the items purchased by using real monies to buy fake items.

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If everything was free almost nobody woud give a sh*t about heists, missions and other jobs thus ignore half of the game.

I grind the pacific standard for an example a lot...but i do have fun doing it :)

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They are arguing the game is fun, not the game was fun.

Did you ever think maybe part of the reason it's fun is because having to work for things balances it? Maybe if everything was unlocked quickly it wouldn't be fun?

You could never know unless they actually did lower the prices for things.

 

"the reason it's fun is because having to work for things" ...

 

Meh, I don't think so. Since when were games supposed to be work? They should be hard (at times anyway), but a grind fest?

 

I have no problem at all with people who buy the cards, but I'd much rather we didn't have to work ourselves to death on this slave labour simulation game.

Games woud not be fun without challenges...

If you grind that is youre choise...in the end you dont need everything in game...most people simply feel like they shoud

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Most people who defend shark cards as a way to fund GTAO believe these two statements:

 

The game is inherently fun to play, so "grinding" isn't something to complain about.

 

The game wouldn't be fun if everything were handed to you, so the high prices are justified.

 

HERE IT COMES...

 

If the game is inherently fun to play, then R* doesn't have to lock items behind a playing time wall or a shark card wall.

 

They would have nothing to worry about. The game is so fun, why would having all the fun items quickly ruin it?

 

 

- Everyone still has to unlock said content before buying it. Thus Shark Cards provide individuals whom don't have the spare time in their lives to spend hours grinding a way to access said content after unlocking it. There are plenty of GTA players that work &/or have families, whom don't have the time to put in grinding for the necessary GTA $. If I want the Insurgent, regardless if I grind or simply buy a Shark Card, I still have to go through the Heist process to unlock it.

 

- "The game is inherently fun to play, so "grinding" isn't something to complain about."

That is an OPINION, not fact. If you like grinding, that's your preference, do not try to speak for everyone on that matter.

 

- If all items are easy to aquire, generally (as in the history of gaming) said game loses player fanbase quickly. For the majority of players, generally once you have everything in a game & to top it off everyone else gets it, it no longer feels special or really worth playing. The exception is when content is being added/mods are implemented such as the Fallout Series. So yes R* would have alot to worry about if everyone could get everything they wanted so quickly.

 

 

BTW, next time take this type of topic to the B*tch & Moan thread.

Or one of the previous threads already made about Shark Cards.

 

 

 

I agree with the first two points, but I don't think making items hard to acquire increases a game's longevity, its good to have something to work towards (sometimes) yes but a fan base remains because the game is fun to play, there are 10+ year old games with virtually nothing to unlock which are still going strong because the games themselves are fun to play.

 

Personally I think R* has done well to eradicate the mindnumbing 'grind' for cash with recent updates and actually make 'making money fun', which is a win-win and if grinding is fun the game can last.

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So , we are all agreed GTA:ONLINE should go pay to play monthly subscription?

I really like GTA Online, it's by far the game I played the most during the last months, but if the "rules" changed and players had to pay to play monthly, I don't think I would continue to play this game. Even if it wasn't that expensive, even if that meant I could get everything I want for free, I still stand my opinion of not spending real money on online games.

 

I think the not only the greatest thing on a online game is not having to pay anything after the purchase of the game itself (neither pay to play or pay to win), plus the fun factor of working hard to be able to have those things you would love to have would be lost. What's the point of playing the same missions if in the end the money doesn't worth nothing because you can have everything for free? If you don't believe me and still stand the opinion everything for free is the real deal, I can ensure you that would be temporary enjoyment and everybody would get bored at it. What's the point of being rich and have everything you can possibly have if there's nothing else to do?

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If Rockstar ever added any content to the game that wasn't specifically designed to remove money from my pocket then i would support them and buy some shark cards... This is before they stole $8 million from my account and banned me for 10 days for , and i quote , " spending to much money to quickly". lol

 

 

:side note:

for $5 you can get $500,000,000 added to your account and not have to support such a loathsome and greedy company. Just google GTA V recovery services.

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Ah I feel sorry for the OP. Sure he/she created a thread that has always been done. But people always reply with the most unoriginal comments commenting on how its an unoriginal thread. Luckily these tend to fade as the thread gets older :). But even I must admit, the thread is sort of pointless. Cash card arguments are constant (but mostly against). If you like cash cards get them. if not, then don't.

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If Rockstar ever added any content to the game that wasn't specifically designed to remove money from my pocket then i would support them and buy some shark cards... This is before they stole $8 million from my account and banned me for 10 days for , and i quote , " spending to much money to quickly". lol

 

 

:side note:

for $5 you can get $500,000,000 added to your account and not have to support such a loathsome and greedy company. Just google GTA V recovery services.

I do agree the prices of some more desirable things are way over the acceptable limits, but I don't think R* is greedy. People who develop these DLCs aren't doing it for fun, it's not their hobby, they are working and obviously have to be paid, just like the servers that host the game and everything else, and that money doesn't grow from the trees. Obviously you have to expect a company to make profit to continue working, and of course thy money has to come from it's players. If you think the game features doesn't worth te payment, that's your subjective opinion, but as I stated previously, it's way better if that profit source is a totally optional thing meant just to save your time than having to pay to access game features. Basically there's 2 scenarios here - you can either play the game and after some time with enough effort you can get the desired feature without spending a single RL cent and optionally, skip the time consuming part by paying for the in-game money; or have to pay the DLC if you want to desired feature, being no way to get if free. What does sound more money-catching for you?

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If Rockstar ever added any content to the game that wasn't specifically designed to remove money from my pocket then i would support them and buy some shark cards... This is before they stole $8 million from my account and banned me for 10 days for , and i quote , " spending to much money to quickly". lol

 

 

:side note:

for $5 you can get $500,000,000 added to your account and not have to support such a loathsome and greedy company. Just google GTA V recovery services.

I do agree the prices of some more desirable things are way over the acceptable limits, but I don't think R* is greedy. People who develop these DLCs aren't doing it for fun, it's not their hobby, they are working and obviously have to be paid, just like the servers that host the game and everything else, and that money doesn't grow from the trees. Obviously you have to expect a company to make profit to continue working, and of course thy money has to come from it's players. If you think the game features doesn't worth te payment, that's your subjective opinion, but as I stated previously, it's way better if that profit source is a totally optional thing meant just to save your time than having to pay to access game features. Basically there's 2 scenarios here - you can either play the game and after some time with enough effort you can get the desired feature without spending a single RL cent and optionally, skip the time consuming part by paying for the in-game money; or have to pay the DLC if you want to desired feature, being no way to get if free. What does sound more money-catching for you?

 

No , they are greedy and that's why they made the choice to make a cash shop / shark cards for GTA V.

 

What Rockstar is doing is why i never support cash shop games. The developers incentive is to add content for people to buy / buy shark cards to get. When you have a game that is paid monthly the developers incentive is to add content to the game that makes it more fun and keeps people interested / paying the monthly fee. Micro transactions are destroying gaming and it will continue to get worse so long as people support the developers who build their games around a cash shop, or "Shark Cards".

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So if they add free stuff and allow you to optionally pay for in-game cash to buy the stuff you can get by playing is a greedy atitude, but making you pay monthly at the first place and totally blocking you of the game if you don't want to pay, and then releasing the same DLCs, is already totally fine?

 

You are pretty much saying on the second situation the devs would force you to pay if you want to play, how can that not be greedy but the way things are now is? Even because you don't even need any of the more expensive things to enjoy the game, they are totally optional and are more like something to people spend the in-game cash on. The entire problem here is that people think it's a must to have a yacht, the most expensive supercar and all those things that are obviously not intended to get with no effort.

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As someone who somewhat approves of Shark Cards, I don't really understand the point in moaning. It won't change anything. Out of a long list of things that could be possibly changed upon mass request, lowering shark card price is the least likely.

 

As someone who would consider buying and has done in the past, I really don't see the problem. Nobody is forcing you to buy them, so stop telling people that you are being forced. Like seriously, nobody sits you down, and makes you go into the store and buy them.

 

Oh, you have to put X amount of hours in to get anywhere. Well that's the time you have to put in. Either find enjoyment in it or don't, I really couldn't care less, but there can be fun to be found in mission grinding. If you can't find enjoyment in GTAO making the money (which is basically half the game), then maybe it's not the game for you

 

Like I said, the prices will most likely not change, I doubt Rockstar would turn around and admit they were high, so either like it or lump it

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So if they add free stuff and allow you to optionally pay for in-game cash to buy the stuff you can get by playing is a greedy atitude, but making you pay monthly at the first place and totally blocking you of the game if you don't want to pay, and then releasing the same DLCs, is already totally fine?

 

You are pretty much saying on the second situation the devs would force you to pay if you want to play, how can that not be greedy but the way things are now is? Even because you don't even need any of the more expensive things to enjoy the game, they are totally optional and are more like something to people spend the in-game cash on. The entire problem here is that people think it's a must to have a yacht, the most expensive supercar and all those things that are obviously not intended to get with no effort.

 

 

In a game where their is a monthly subscription the expectations are much higher. No one would pay for GTA V if they used P2P servers like what GAT V does. For a monthly subscription dedicated servers are expected. Also , how many years has the match making system sucked and how many years has Rockstar done nothing about it ? Again , that would not be acceptable in a game that required a monthly fee. The cheaters in GTA V , paying customers would not continue to pay for a game where the cheaters are running rampant. In general a paid subscrition game has to be held to higher standards and GTA V in all honestly is a turd of a game that works just good enough that it's playable and nothing more.

 

Also, the content added to the game. When a game company makes a cash shop their incentive is to put things into the game for you to buy. When a company uses a paid subscription their incentive is to put things into the game for people to do ... And read that last sentence again before replying.

 

GTA V would be dead if it charged a monthly fee because it's simply not good enough to warrant a monthly fee. On top of that Rockstar / Take Two are far to incompetent to make a game worthy of a monthly fee and they know it. So instead they spends hundreds of millions on marketing this game to draw people in then add content that 12 year old children have been moding into PC games for years and pretend like some copy and past yacht that does nothing is worth $100. lol

 

I wish people would take their rose colored glasses off and look at things realistically. GTA V is a scam targeted at children who don't know any better...

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I wish people would take their rose colored glasses off and look at things realistically. GTA V is a scam targeted at children who don't know any better...

And you still play it

 

 

Or you don't play it and you just come on the forums to tell others why they shouldn't. Either way, I'm not really sure why you're here

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I wish people would take their rose colored glasses off and look at things realistically. GTA V is a scam targeted at children who don't know any better...

And you still play it

 

 

Or you don't play it and you just come on the forums to tell others why they shouldn't. Either way, I'm not really sure why you're here

 

Because it's free...

 

If they tried to charge me for this game i would be playing something else and so would the over whelming majority of people who play this game. This game is not worth paying for... Hence the reason why Rockstars business model is not to improve the game but to add more things for you to buy in the game.

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GTA V is a mature, 18+ rated game, never intended for kids. If there's kids playing the game it's their parents' shame.

 

Plus, I play this game for about half an year and the only money I ever spent on it was to buy the game, neither I ever felt in need to buy Shark Cards since I'm realistic, I can't afford (neither do I need) the most expensive things on this game and I understand they are meant as kind of a reward for the players that play this game the most. It is indeed true it's about time for Rockstar to do something about the servers and the hackers, but I still can't see why the way things are now makes them greedy.

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Do you understand the negative consequences of shark cards? Sure buy them if you want, but you can't call it harmless.

Bottom line is you can earn the money without much problem. People who can't play more than an hour a day should be playing different types of games.
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If they tried to charge me for this game i would be playing something else and so would the over whelming majority of people who play this game. This game is not worth paying for... Hence the reason why Rockstars business model is not to improve the game but to add more things for you to buy in the game.

Do you not play any of the new content, like beyond trying it once?

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GTA V is a mature, 18+ rated game, never intended for kids. If there's kids playing the game it's their parents' shame.

 

Plus, I play this game for about half an year and the only money I ever spent on it was to buy the game, neither I ever felt in need to buy Shark Cards since I'm realistic, I can't afford (neither do I need) the most expensive things on this game and I understand they are meant as kind of a reward for the players that play this game the most. It is indeed true it's about time for Rockstar to do something about the servers and the hackers, but I still can't see why the way things are now makes them greedy.

 

The reason why is because the content that they ad to GTA V is stuff children have been moding into games for years. It's simple and easy to create and most importantly ... Cheap !

 

Look at games like Ever Quest that is on it's 17 year. Every six months - a year they add an expansion to the game that has 10,000 X more content in it than all of GTA V as well as new zones that drawf GTA V's map. Back in 1999 Ever Quest had a game world that was in the range of 20X larger than GTA V... And you could even go into all of the buildings in Ever Quest !

 

Rockstar and Take Two are greedy and lazy and they don't want to give people real content. They just want to give you some copy and past apartments and hope it's player base is dumb enough to buy shark cards to get them.

 

 

If they tried to charge me for this game i would be playing something else and so would the over whelming majority of people who play this game. This game is not worth paying for... Hence the reason why Rockstars business model is not to improve the game but to add more things for you to buy in the game.

Do you not play any of the new content, like beyond trying it once?

 

What new content ? The over priced cars , most of which suck. Or maybe you are talking about that yacht that cost $8,000,000 / $100 real life dollars that does little more than nothing... What content are you talking about exactly ?

 

The only real " content " Rockstar has ever added to this game was Heists and the horrifically bad Lamar missions. Every thing else they added into the game is simply stuff for you to buy.

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GTA V is a mature, 18+ rated game, never intended for kids. If there's kids playing the game it's their parents' shame.

 

Plus, I play this game for about half an year and the only money I ever spent on it was to buy the game, neither I ever felt in need to buy Shark Cards since I'm realistic, I can't afford (neither do I need) the most expensive things on this game and I understand they are meant as kind of a reward for the players that play this game the most. It is indeed true it's about time for Rockstar to do something about the servers and the hackers, but I still can't see why the way things are now makes them greedy.

 

The reason why is because the content that they ad to GTA V is stuff children have been moding into games for years. It's simple and easy to create and most importantly ... Cheap !

 

Look at games like Ever Quest that is on it's 17 year. Every six months - a year they add an expansion to the game that has 10,000 X more content in it than all of GTA V as well as new zones that drawf GTA V's map. Back in 1999 Ever Quest had a game world that was in the range of 20X larger than GTA V... And you could even go into all of the buildings in Ever Quest !

 

Rockstar and Take Two are greedy and lazy and they don't want to give people real content. They just want to get you some copy and past apartments and hope it's player base is dumb enough to buy shark cards to get those copy and past apartments.

 

 

If they tried to charge me for this game i would be playing something else and so would the over whelming majority of people who play this game. This game is not worth paying for... Hence the reason why Rockstars business model is not to improve the game but to add more things for you to buy in the game.

Do you not play any of the new content, like beyond trying it once?

 

What new content ? The over priced cars , most of which suck. Or maybe you are talking about that yacht that cost $8,000,000 / $100 real life dollars that does little more than nothing... What content are you talking about exactly ?

 

The only real " content " Rockstar has ever added to this game was Heists and the horrifically bad Lamar missions. Every thing else they added into the game is simply stuff for you to buy.

 

 

It may be just "cars that suck" to you but it's still content. In the 2 and a bit years that online's been out we've had huge updates from where we started, and at no point have Rockstar actually made us pay anything more than the asking price of the game. The options there, but it's never been forced upon us.

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Greeryboy2410

 

 

 

I wish people would take their rose colored glasses off and look at things realistically. GTA V is a scam targeted at children who don't know any better...

And you still play it

 

 

Or you don't play it and you just come on the forums to tell others why they shouldn't. Either way, I'm not really sure why you're here

 

Because it's free...

 

If they tried to charge me for this game i would be playing something else and so would the over whelming majority of people who play this game. This game is not worth paying for... Hence the reason why Rockstars business model is not to improve the game but to add more things for you to buy in the game.

So you're purely playing because it costs nothing. Right... Put it this way, I actually paid money for CoD Ghosts and its DLC, which I stupidly pre paid. I didn't even install some of the DLC that I had already paid for from an awful game, even though I wanted to just because I had paid for it. You haven't sunk a penny over game price into this game and despite how much you hate online, you're still playing. Right...

 

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Screw the other stuff, why are you actually still playing this game? If you have such a hatred for TakeTwo and R*, and this whole Shark Card system, just play another game instead of moaning about how bad it is even though the whole experience for you has been free!

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GTA V is a mature, 18+ rated game, never intended for kids. If there's kids playing the game it's their parents' shame.

 

Plus, I play this game for about half an year and the only money I ever spent on it was to buy the game, neither I ever felt in need to buy Shark Cards since I'm realistic, I can't afford (neither do I need) the most expensive things on this game and I understand they are meant as kind of a reward for the players that play this game the most. It is indeed true it's about time for Rockstar to do something about the servers and the hackers, but I still can't see why the way things are now makes them greedy.

 

The reason why is because the content that they ad to GTA V is stuff children have been moding into games for years. It's simple and easy to create and most importantly ... Cheap !

 

Look at games like Ever Quest that is on it's 17 year. Every six months - a year they add an expansion to the game that has 10,000 X more content in it than all of GTA V as well as new zones that drawf GTA V's map. Back in 1999 Ever Quest had a game world that was in the range of 20X larger than GTA V... And you could even go into all of the buildings in Ever Quest !

 

Rockstar and Take Two are greedy and lazy and they don't want to give people real content. They just want to get you some copy and past apartments and hope it's player base is dumb enough to buy shark cards to get those copy and past apartments.

 

 

If they tried to charge me for this game i would be playing something else and so would the over whelming majority of people who play this game. This game is not worth paying for... Hence the reason why Rockstars business model is not to improve the game but to add more things for you to buy in the game.

Do you not play any of the new content, like beyond trying it once?

 

What new content ? The over priced cars , most of which suck. Or maybe you are talking about that yacht that cost $8,000,000 / $100 real life dollars that does little more than nothing... What content are you talking about exactly ?

 

The only real " content " Rockstar has ever added to this game was Heists and the horrifically bad Lamar missions. Every thing else they added into the game is simply stuff for you to buy.

 

 

It may be just "cars that suck" to you but it's still content. In the 2 and a bit years that online's been out we've had huge updates from where we started, and at no point have Rockstar actually made us pay anything more than the asking price of the game. The options there, but it's never been forced upon us.

 

What huge updates ? Give me some examples of things that Rockstar has added to that game that were not simply things for us to buy.

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Lamar Missions

Hiests

 

And things to buy are still updates, If you could get online with a Vanilla copy of the game compared to with all the updates added, you'd see a LOT less things. Like it or not, that's still added content.

 

Not sure what you want from a company who are in the game to make money, and have a method they've come up with which actually doesn't favour one group of people. Check all these pay to win games, now that's something we should be fighting against.

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GTA V is a mature, 18+ rated game, never intended for kids. If there's kids playing the game it's their parents' shame.

 

Plus, I play this game for about half an year and the only money I ever spent on it was to buy the game, neither I ever felt in need to buy Shark Cards since I'm realistic, I can't afford (neither do I need) the most expensive things on this game and I understand they are meant as kind of a reward for the players that play this game the most. It is indeed true it's about time for Rockstar to do something about the servers and the hackers, but I still can't see why the way things are now makes them greedy.

The reason why is because the content that they ad to GTA V is stuff children have been moding into games for years. It's simple and easy to create and most importantly ... Cheap !

 

Look at games like Ever Quest that is on it's 17 year. Every six months - a year they add an expansion to the game that has 10,000 X more content in it than all of GTA V as well as new zones that drawf GTA V's map. Back in 1999 Ever Quest had a game world that was in the range of 20X larger than GTA V... And you could even go into all of the buildings in Ever Quest !

 

Rockstar and Take Two are greedy and lazy and they don't want to give people real content. They just want to get you some copy and past apartments and hope it's player base is dumb enough to buy shark cards to get those copy and past apartments.

 

 

If they tried to charge me for this game i would be playing something else and so would the over whelming majority of people who play this game. This game is not worth paying for... Hence the reason why Rockstars business model is not to improve the game but to add more things for you to buy in the game.

Do you not play any of the new content, like beyond trying it once?

 

What new content ? The over priced cars , most of which suck. Or maybe you are talking about that yacht that cost $8,000,000 / $100 real life dollars that does little more than nothing... What content are you talking about exactly ?

 

The only real " content " Rockstar has ever added to this game was Heists and the horrifically bad Lamar missions. Every thing else they added into the game is simply stuff for you to buy.

 

It may be just "cars that suck" to you but it's still content. In the 2 and a bit years that online's been out we've had huge updates from where we started, and at no point have Rockstar actually made us pay anything more than the asking price of the game. The options there, but it's never been forced upon us.

 

What huge updates ? Give me some examples of things that Rockstar has added to that game that were not simply things for us to buy.

Ohhh, tough one. Let me think real hard...

 

Heists.

 

And don't say they took ages or any of that, they still came and they are there partially for the experience, and partially for the money you get

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Ironies of the current generation: Complain that there's nothing to do and aspire for, then complain that things shouldn't be unlocked or achieved.

How's that for a paradox?

 

 

They would have nothing to worry about. The game is so fun, why would having all the fun items quickly ruin it?

 

Because like everything, you'd get bored with it at a much faster rate.

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I wish people would take their rose colored glasses off and look at things realistically. GTA V is a scam targeted at children who don't know any better...

And you still play it

 

 

Or you don't play it and you just come on the forums to tell others why they shouldn't. Either way, I'm not really sure why you're here

 

Because it's free...

 

If they tried to charge me for this game i would be playing something else and so would the over whelming majority of people who play this game. This game is not worth paying for... Hence the reason why Rockstars business model is not to improve the game but to add more things for you to buy in the game.

So you're purely playing because it costs nothing. Right... Put it this way, I actually paid money for CoD Ghosts and its DLC, which I stupidly pre paid. I didn't even install some of the DLC that I had already paid for from an awful game, even though I wanted to just because I had paid for it. You haven't sunk a penny over game price into this game and despite how much you hate online, you're still playing. Right...

 

Back on topic, I find it hard to believe Rockstar's business model would be the same DLC wise etc if it was a monthly sub thing. Like really, they wouldn't just release stuff you have to sit and play for ages to get, it would be the opposite, you'd get the stuff and play with it for hours. Are you really that naive to think they never considered a monthly sub? They chose shark cards as it's optional, and it means you aren't stuck behind a paywall. It's up to you if you buy them. Rockstar didn't want all these self righteous 'fans' demanding lower prices because they deserve better as gamers. This is such a BS argument people make. Pay or don't pay, do one of the two, just please don't sit and expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter

 

It's a marginally OK game that is free to play after i bought it.

 

It's a turd that is barley functional , filled with hackers and cheaters. And the only things to do in the game are grind a handful of contact missions , 50 ? maybe . Heists , those are actually really good. Or run around free roam killing each other.

 

There are some races that no one plays. There are some death matches that no one plays and a few other things but really there is very little to do in this game outside of what i listed above... And you and every one getting pissed off because I'm right, you know it.

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