This strangers on yachts sh*t needs to be fixed quick

[JC Hammer]

Surely this is finally the best opportunity ever to use a Merryweather airstrike? I wonder if you could even throw the flare down and then enter the cabin?

 

Please let us know if this works, so far I haven't had anyone attempt to board the "Suck my Wake" or the "SP2MP"

[TovarishTony]

Some ppl just board my yacht to look at something but still its good to bath on the hot tub with their clothes removed. The Russian flag flies on the yacht and make them even jealous with the looks although I see a couple of yachts in a session already which is why the captain always throw the yacht near El Gordo lighthouse

[Nutduster]

 

 

 

Now: it might be ridiculous to expect to be left alone in a public session, except for the fact that...

1. Apartments and houses are invitation only already

2. Personal vehicles can be set to invitation only

 

etc.

If you live in an apartment I can land on your roof and muck about.

 

If you have a car I can stand on your roof and muck about.

 

If you have a yacht I can be on your top deck and muck about.

I realize that. But the roof of your apartment and car are spectacularly uninteresting places. The deck of your yacht on the other hand is arguably most of its appeal: the hot tub, the helipad, and the great view. So I want it to work differently from cars and apartments. Better, in a sense, but only because I think yachts don't compare well to cars or apartments. It is neither. Edited January 7, 2016 by Nutduster

[Fox2Quick]

 

 

 

 

Now: it might be ridiculous to expect to be left alone in a public session, except for the fact that...

1. Apartments and houses are invitation only already

2. Personal vehicles can be set to invitation only

 

etc.

If you live in an apartment I can land on your roof and muck about.

 

If you have a car I can stand on your roof and muck about.

 

If you have a yacht I can be on your top deck and muck about.

I realize that. But the roof of your apartment and car are spectacularly uninteresting places. The deck of your yacht on the other hand is arguably most of its appeal: the hot tub, the helipad, and the great view. So I want it to work differently from cars and apartments. Better, in a sense, but only because I think yachts don't compare well to cars or apartments. It is neither.

Whether or not you find rooftops interesting is merely your opinion, however the fact in itself that the exteriors of "private spaces" are publicly accessible isn't. It's called consistency.

 

Consider this: you've tried to make a point based on appeal, downplaying land properties due to the lack of amenities, but what about houses with pools and stuff? Those are part of properties that people can own, but other players still have free reign over such things because they are outside.

[Shaytan]

Why not contacting Rockstar asking them for it? Since we're on the mood of granting wishes maybe Rockstar is too, I mean

 

Blah blah blah prevent to get inside my yacht blah blah blah

 

*wish granted... But now your yacht doesn't exist anymore*

 

Truth is, the problem would be technically solved.

[Yukinoshita]

This yacht thing has been going on for too much, don't you agree?

I bet it's just a matter of time before Rockstar does something about it, probably in the next update. Too many people have been complaining about it since yachts came out.

I still believe the best solution is to turn the radio on East Los FM and let intruders suicide themselves, or take a chopper, get off of it and make it fall on the guys if they're on passive. Works as a charm

 

Yeah yeah yeah, this is the 100th time this thread has been made.

Hmm...yeah, you're right...um...yeah. Goodbye

Reported for off topic and trolling. Same every thread.

 

Thanks, I didn't know trolling was illegal. I'll pay my fine, but you went OT too, kind sir

[Nutduster]

 

 

I realize that. But the roof of your apartment and car are spectacularly uninteresting places. The deck of your yacht on the other hand is arguably most of its appeal: the hot tub, the helipad, and the great view. So I want it to work differently from cars and apartments. Better, in a sense, but only because I think yachts don't compare well to cars or apartments. It is neither.

Whether or not you find rooftops interesting is merely your opinion, however the fact in itself that the exteriors of "private spaces" are publicly accessible isn't. It's called consistency.

 

Consider this: you've tried to make a point based on appeal, downplaying land properties due to the lack of amenities, but what about houses with pools and stuff? Those are part of properties that people can own, but other players still have free reign over such things because they are outside.

 

 

Unless Rockstar is going to instance the entire backyard (make it a pseudo-interior from which you somehow cannot escape, and no one else can enter), it's literally impossible to grant you exclusive access to "your" backyard, because even if you keep visitors out, other people may own the same house. I personally believe that this is one reason so few of our properties have backyards or swimming pools. This is a problem that arises from the map and game design that has only a limited number of buyable properties, and doesn't give you exclusive ownership. I would actually like to own a house with a semi-secure backyard - let people attack me, but also let me have Merryweather guards to keep the attackers at bay. That would be cool. But I don't see how it could possibly work with the property system they have (by necessity).

 

The yacht on the hand is always exclusive. No one else owns it and wherever it is parked, no other yacht will be (maybe nearby but not literally occupying the same piece of ocean). It is trivially easy for them to do one or two of the suggestions made in this thread without causing problems. Maybe it would nag at your sense of "consistency," but really - who cares? Your house doesn't have a missile defense system either. Yachts are already not apartments. And having some goons on my boat that attack strangers doesn't break immersion; it's a very GTA concept. There's really no reason not to do it except that some people never want anything in this game changed for reasons they are helpless to explain. That, or the fact that perhaps you're just one of those passive yacht trolls and hate the thought of having one of your means of bothering people taken from you.

Edited January 7, 2016 by Nutduster

[Fox2Quick]

I love when people say "it would be so easy to just add X". Dude, you don't work for R?, you have no idea what implementing that code would entail. And what exactly makes a yacht not an apartment? It's a living space with private access, your wardrobe, and you can spawn there. Or are you just basing your "it's not an apartment" off the fact that it's not in a property slot? Either way, that aspect can be debated till the cows come home.

 

Also, not sure if you knew this, but on occasion, more than one yacht actually can occupy the same space at the same time.

 

I could tell you I'm not a yacht troll, but it's not like that matters. If you wanna make that assumption, I can't stop you, but I will note that I've only gone on someone else's yacht twice and they were friends. I'm just debating this because I think it's fine as is and there's really no reason to change it

[Nutduster]

I love when people say "it would be so easy to just add X". Dude, you don't work for R?, you have no idea what implementing that code would entail. And what exactly makes a yacht not an apartment? It's a living space with private access, your wardrobe, and you can spawn there. Or are you just basing your "it's not an apartment" off the fact that it's not in a property slot? Either way, that aspect can be debated till the cows come home.

 

 

There's no debate. It's not an apartment. It's a yacht. It has a living space and wardrobe; those are the only points of comparison. Apartments can't be moved around; apartments come with garages; apartments don't come with a helipad and their own vehicles; apartments don't include a hot tub on the exterior (or anywhere); apartments occupy one of the 5 property slots; apartments can be used to host heists. There are more dissimilarities than similarities; Rockstar quite clearly set up yachts to be their own thing with their own features. They aren't cars, apartments, nor Pegasus vehicles (despite much pre-release speculation). They are simply a new class of game object and should be thought of on their own terms. Expecting consistency with other unrelated stuff in the game is pointless, and essentially just a lazy argument from the "don't change anything, who cares" crowd (most of whom don't own yachts).

 

And yeah, by Rockstar's programming standards it would be easy for them to spawn some NPC goons on the deck who attack people within range that aren't on the yacht access list. If you're going to argue otherwise, I'm going to laugh you out of this thread. I understand you're probably not a programmer (I'm half of one - actually I do high-level tech support, but I also have to read code and find bugs as part of my day job). But just look at how similar the concept is to a bunch of stuff that's already in the game. Spawning NPCs is of course nothing, you can assign your own NPC spawns in Creator for god's sake. Programming them to attack only certain people is the only obstacle of any significance but that isn't hard either, seeing as the game already has similar logic in place for the Merryweather support helicopter. This idea would basically just be re-purposing a lot of stuff they've already done, all of which is code going back to the original release of the game. So no I don't work for Rockstar, but yes I am confident based on personal experience and a dash of common sense that the proposed solution here is actually a pretty minor enhancement.

[Fox2Quick]

You may want to tone down the arrogance just a tad. If you were truly using common sense, then you would know how greatly coding structures can vary and that it's nearly impossible to be able to know what can be done unless you actually see the coding yourself. Being a programmer isn't that big of a deal. I started learning programming in high school and continued for a quite a few years so I have a fair amount of experience in it as well. There's also the fact that I was very involved in the modding/glitching aspect of this game for the first year and a half that it was out. It's easy to get a general idea behind the if/thans of how this game works but that's about as far as an outsider is going to be able to get.

 

I see you bring up amenities again, but are trying to classify based on what each one is. I think that's an illogical way to look at it. Let's look at hosting heists. Only high-end apartments can do that. Only middle class properties have outdoor luxuries. It could be said that the yachts are apartments, but a new class of them.

 

Saying there's no debate, while continuing to debate is pretty ridiculous and I would think that as smart as you're trying to act, you would've realized that.

[Jenkiiii]

FACT: the Yacht settings in the interaction menu don't work. After setting the yacht access privileges to friends only, within five minutes I had randoms all over it in a full lobby at Vespucci beach. Even Nutduster can agree on that, surely? It's a bug.

 

And there's the minor niggle of the 'passive pirates', just mingling around and occupying your space. You can't get rid of them.

 

But I don't mind my yacht being a public playground too much because it's still MY yacht with all my details emblazoned all over it. And it's a little marketing tool by Rockstar to sell more yachts and sharkcards, and I don't mind that too much either considering all the free DLCs they've given us over the years. And if you get tired of these randoms, get your Hydra and straff the hell out of it. I picked up ten kills in a single fly-by.

 

(BTW, it does seem a bit weird straffing your own yacht FFS to get rid of undesirables, got to admit that)

Edited January 7, 2016 by Jenkiiii

[Nutduster]

You may want to tone down the arrogance just a tad.

 

 

Pardon me while I phone Alanis Morrisette for a judgment on whether or not that's ironic...

[Fox2Quick]

 

You may want to tone down the arrogance just a tad.

 

Pardon me while I phone Alanis Morrisette for a judgment on whether or not that's ironic...

Ah nothing on-topic to respond with? That's surely the way to get your point across...

 

ive been discussing the game itself. You were the one who started bringing personal experience from outside the game into the discussion as if it held any weight. "I'm a high-level tech support blah blah blah".

Edited January 7, 2016 by Fox2Quick

[Nutduster]

Saying there's no debate, while continuing to debate is pretty ridiculous and I would think that as smart as you're trying to act, you would've realized that.

 

Oh? If I tell you that there's a purple unicorn who has high tea with you every day at noon and you say, "No, this doesn't happen and there is no debate," and then I say, "Yuh huh it does," and then YOU say, "No it doesn't" - are you debating me? Or are you just getting sucked into a circular nightmare of non-logic with a person so irrational and stubborn that they refuse to concede even the most basic of points the other side has made (e.g. I think I'd know if I had tea every day, or even once, with a purple unicorn)?

 

Yachts are more unlike apartments than they are like them. That is a fact. They don't take up a property slot like any apartment in the game does. That's a fact. You don't buy them from the real estate web site, that's another fact. The only reason to pretend they are apartments when they are clearly not is so you can score points in this utterly asinine argument that I am now bowing out of. So by all means, get the final word. I should have left this thread 2 pages ago; now I'm learning from my mistakes. This is ultimately, again, just a difference of opinion and having become well-acquainted with yours, I no longer need to hear you reiterate it 5,000 more times.

[markyhitch]

I love it when randoms hop aboard my yacht when I'm inside, looking to kill me. I simply watch and wait for them to get bored and begin their journey back to shore. That's when I exit the interior, man my homing launcher and send 'em to hell!

[grand theft spaghetti]

defenses on.

yatch access friends only.

murder them with your helicopter.

 

they all gathered around my helicopter like i was going to give them a ride. then i went up and came back down on them. killed one instantly, got a couple more with the blades and then i picked off the ones trying to swim back with a sniper. followed by passive mode so i could flip them the bird while they tried to snipe me from shore. then change sessions and they are all stuck at paleto bay for no reason. honestly im surprised they went all the way out there to hop onto my boat. hate that yatch spawn location so much.

[Fox2Quick]

I guess the whole idea of individual perception of reality is over your head then? At least the way you've worded your response makes it seem that way.

 

Btw, saying FACT after making a statement doesn't make it so. Im referring to the first point you said this and not the second 2. You realize it's also possibly to buy apartments without going to the real estate site too right? We've already established twice that it's not in a property slot, so it seems you're only bringing it up again to feel as if you have some of these so called points that you think people are counting.

 

This isn't a dick measuring contest so don't try and project this whol inferiority score-keeping contest on me. If you brought it up, then it's weighing on your mind, not mine.

 

And if you don't wish to keep discussing this with me, then it would probably be a good choice to not keep responding to me eh?

Edited January 7, 2016 by Fox2Quick

[JON22]

OP, better hope I can't afford to pay off my Xbox One.

 

Here's a'yacht'. Note the litter.

 

And here's what I'll be doing around the hot tub.

 

 

Can't wait.

[am30]

 

 

 

 

 

Now: it might be ridiculous to expect to be left alone in a public session, except for the fact that...

1. Apartments and houses are invitation only already

2. Personal vehicles can be set to invitation only

 

etc.

If you live in an apartment I can land on your roof and muck about.

 

If you have a car I can stand on your roof and muck about.

 

If you have a yacht I can be on your top deck and muck about.

I realize that. But the roof of your apartment and car are spectacularly uninteresting places. The deck of your yacht on the other hand is arguably most of its appeal: the hot tub, the helipad, and the great view. So I want it to work differently from cars and apartments. Better, in a sense, but only because I think yachts don't compare well to cars or apartments. It is neither.

Whether or not you find rooftops interesting is merely your opinion, however the fact in itself that the exteriors of "private spaces" are publicly accessible isn't. It's called consistency.

 

Consider this: you've tried to make a point based on appeal, downplaying land properties due to the lack of amenities, but what about houses with pools and stuff? Those are part of properties that people can own, but other players still have free reign over such things because they are outside.

 

 

If you're on the top of my car, I can drive off to get rid of you. A yacht, I can't.

 

Whilst the deck space if open, it is still part of the yacht. Therefore it stands to reason that the owner should be able to set access parameters to that area. It's where you keep you vehicles associated with the yacht so it can easily be thought of as the equivalent to a garage attached to a apartment. Clearly this is an inconsistency that we can only hope is rectified in the next update.

 

However, above everything else, unless you are invited to a yacht, you have no business being on it.

[InactiveNew]

Oh jesus OP you do realise theres an INTERACTION MENU in which you can allow and not allow who you want on your boat. Life dosnt have to be like this man. Failing that get the golf club out

[FuqOutTheWay]

Oh jesus OP you do realise theres an INTERACTION MENU in which you can allow and not allow who you want on your boat. Life dosnt have to be like this man. Failing that get the golf club out

that setting in the interaction menu doesn't control who can actually board the yacht so don't act like such a smart ass if you don't know what your talking about.

[am30]

That only seems to work when you move the yacht. Randoms sometimes get kicked off when you move.

 

Just sounds like something isn't quite working as intended so hopefully it'll be fixed come the next update.

 

In the meantime, enjoy trolling randoms with the yacht defenses on/off function (well they shouldn't be there should they?).

[InactiveNew]

 

Oh jesus OP you do realise theres an INTERACTION MENU in which you can allow and not allow who you want on your boat. Life dosnt have to be like this man. Failing that get the golf club out

that setting in the interaction menu doesn't control who can actually board the yacht so don't act like such a smart ass if you don't know what your talking about.

 

god knows.

Edited March 31, 2018 by UniqueAsh

[Stealthflight]

I was against buying a yacht at first because Im not into role play, but Im getting one in the next week or two in order to do every dirty sly trick in the book to kill other players on it. I cant wait. Means to an end. (raise my K/D)

Edited January 7, 2016 by Stealthflight

[SIM-1]

 

 

 

Now: it might be ridiculous to expect to be left alone in a public session, except for the fact that...

1. Apartments and houses are invitation only already

2. Personal vehicles can be set to invitation only

 

etc.

If you have a car I can stand on your roof and muck about.

.

Not if you are inpassive mode.

 

If you try to get on yacht in passive you should fall through to the water

[SaltyGTAFMember]

 

 

 

 

Now: it might be ridiculous to expect to be left alone in a public session, except for the fact that...

1. Apartments and houses are invitation only already

2. Personal vehicles can be set to invitation only

 

etc.

If you have a car I can stand on your roof and muck about.

.

Not if you are inpassive mode.

 

If you try to get on yacht in passive you should fall through to the water

 

Sure if they make the yacht be able to blow up !

[Blasterman4EVER]

Armed personnel on board for an extra fee?

 

Merryweather is always available for hire by any douchebag.

Edited January 7, 2016 by Blasterman4EVER

[MikeMyth]

I'm so sick of random players doing what they want on my yacht. I paid 10 million for it for f*ck sake' i should be able to control who I want to be aboard it and to make things worse a stranger I killed me on my yacht today and I spawned back on the beach whilst he stayed on the yacht.

I was messing around with my friend and when they killed me I spawned on the shore. That's just a glitch. Also isn't this suitable for b&m? Not exactly a huge deal.. Not really

worthy of six pages

[SIM-1]

 

 

 

 

 

Now: it might be ridiculous to expect to be left alone in a public session, except for the fact that...

1. Apartments and houses are invitation only already

2. Personal vehicles can be set to invitation only

 

etc.

If you have a car I can stand on your roof and muck about.

.

Not if you are inpassive mode.

 

If you try to get on yacht in passive you should fall through to the water

 

Sure if they make the yacht be able to blow up !

I would accept it being able to be blown up if defenses were down if passives could not board

[Stealthflight]

UPDATE: Blastermans long post has been deleted? Anyhow, here was my response to what was deleted.

 

@Blasterman, wow, I would think the term chill pill was made for you. Has it ever occurred to you that this is a mean game? That you can play whack a prostitute in freeroam and you can detonate and launch other players into the sky like crisp blackened bacon?

 

The mean person here is the OP, what if players who work their asses off all day, they have no time to grind for a yacht, nor do they want to cheat and glitch money. , but they have it in their curiosity to check out the yacht . The Uppity ones now don't want the working ethical peasants on board their pristine yacht, so no one ends up happy. well that's just mean selfish and cruel. but guess what this whole game is about living out psychotic cruelty, so live and let live. Now back to flubbering into my sperm napkin.....

Edited January 8, 2016 by Stealthflight