This strangers on yachts sh*t needs to be fixed quick

[Zoolock]

What we need is the s**tstick 3000 being available to the yacht owner in passive mode. You dare come on my yacht uninvited then be prepared to get covered in poo.

[Fox2Quick]

If it comes down to a matter of opinion and what rockstar chooses to do about this feature, then why bother posting here in the first place? What's the point in sharing your view if you're not actually open to discussing it?

 

I see a consistent lack of sensibility in your choices

[Jenkiiii]

Positive Attitude.

 

You own a super-expensive yacht, mansion, nightclub, whatever... and the only people that can visit it are your immediate friends and bodyguards? So what's the point in having it?

 

Sure, one of those 'undesirables' could be an idiot and kill people, steal your boats/helicopters and generally act like a dick, so evict them and don't let them back on. But the other people aren't doing any harm, just admiring/appreciating what you've got.

 

I'd rather be a yacht owner with undesirables on board than an undesirable on someone else's yacht

What we need is the s**tstick 3000 being available to the yacht owner in passive mode. You dare come on my yacht uninvited then be prepared to get covered in poo.

 

Exclusive VIP weapon: the cattle prod, lol

[SaltyGTAFMember]

I can see a topic at hand but the OP is clearly b*tching and moan so I'm wondering why this **** isn't in b*tch and moan.

[ulrak]

 

Want to hang out on your yacht by yourself? Invite only.

It's not like you're interacting with other players anyway.

You want to hang out on a yacht buy one ,

Don't understand why if you like the yacht why you wouldn't own one yourself.

 

The deck of someone's boat is private property irl, so it's trespassing , do you think the company's who own cruise liners allow people to piss about on the deck of their ships while in port, NO they don't ,

Typical freeloading lazy arse f*ckers who can't be arsed earning the luxury items themselves but can't see why they shouldn't enjoy someone elses

 

 

IRL murder and car theft aint exactly de regueur either but as this is just a video game...and btw your city badge is out of date.

Edited January 6, 2016 by ulrak

[Nutduster]

If it comes down to a matter of opinion and what rockstar chooses to do about this feature, then why bother posting here in the first place? What's the point in sharing your view if you're not actually open to discussing it?

 

I see a consistent lack of sensibility in your choices

 

 

Oh, I am open to sharing and discussing my view. I just don't see the point discussing it with you, because you seem to think this is a debate complete with arguments and rebuttals, and you seem to think that eventually one of us is going to win somehow. That's not going to happen, and it's tedious to engage with you because of it. I talk about subjective opinions all the time - every time I see a movie, eat a meal, or read a book, I share my opinion on it with someone else who experienced the same thing, and tell them whether I liked it or not, and find out what they thought. Sometimes things get a little heated, even. But I don't sit there and demand a "rebuttal" of my opinion of shoestring potatoes on a burger. What you're doing is ridiculous.

 

Yes, the interiors in the game are instanced and thus easy to make invite-only. But extending a similar feature to yacht exteriors is just a minor technical or philosophical hurdle. The defense system is already there; if it killed everyone in range (whether flying or not) as long as they're not excluded in the yacht access setting, and forced them to respawn on the nearest shore, that is a very simple way to solve it. They could have an invisible wall around the yacht, breachable only by the owner and people on the access list; that breaks immersion, but not much more IMO than vehicles spawning 15 feet away from you (which happens every time you use your mechanic or call Pegasus), or for that matter, personal vehicle access (why is it that my car-jacking maniac of a character is suddenly unable to break a window and hotwire a car if another player owns it?). They could put an NPC security detail on board that attacks anyone not on the access list - that's my preference. There are options. You just don't like them because you don't care about this, personally, and none of your other arguments will change that fact; when it comes down to it, you're just another person who believes something for personal reasons and then comes up with arguments to try to prop up those arbitrary beliefs after the fact. Which is why arguing with you is pointless.

 

There is no actual technical or philosophical reason they CANNOT do what I want. From a programming standpoint, at least a couple solutions are viable and not hard to implement. From a philosophical standpoint, the only thing you've got is "but this is public free roam!" - which is meaningless. Yachts don't move around and they sit in otherwise unused patches of vacant ocean. I can't drive my yacht into the middle of downtown and then sit there in a bubble of invincibility in a place that players actually go. Letting me sit out in the ocean by myself (or with friends) in a hot tub has no impact on anyone else's playing experience. If they were prohibited from getting on my yacht, their free roam experience would be essentially unchanged, except that they can't kill and/or annoy me as long as I stay on the yacht. Big effin' deal.

 

Positive Attitude.

 

You own a super-expensive yacht, mansion, nightclub, whatever... and the only people that can visit it are your immediate friends and bodyguards? So what's the point in having it?

 

Sure, one of those 'undesirables' could be an idiot and kill people, steal your boats/helicopters and generally act like a dick, so evict them and don't let them back on.

 

How exactly am I going to evict them? As things stand now, you can't. If they're in passive you can do nothing except pay 25K to move the yacht and hope it removes them, which at least sometimes it will not. If they're not in passive you can kill them - but they can also kill you, and either way, they're probably going to respawn right back on your yacht.

 

I don't mind having randoms aboard if they just want to hang out and see the boat, and if they ask me. I don't want to hang out with uninvited trolls though, and have no options to remove them. Currently the best thing to do is go into the interior and wait until they leave, which is just dumb.

Edited January 6, 2016 by Nutduster

[Reemer]

nothing better than chilling on someone elses yacht.

 

Get to save my 10 million and do pretty much the same sh*t as them.

[mirthless]

Conversely, no one has come aboard my boat since i got it days ago. Not that i am complaining but the novelty has pretty much worn off that not many will bother?

[BiscuitTheCat59]

Didn't really care about the Yachts. It would lose the wow factor soon enough, so I didn't buy one. Now I hear people don't like others going on them? Looks like I'm going to have some fun later

[Shaytan]

But different opinions tend to naturally origin a debate. Talking by myself, I also take my own opinions on a subjective way, but I simply don't understand what's your goal: you don't want people stepping inside your yacht, but why? If they kill you or steal/destroy your heli or boats is understandable, but if they just walk arround what is the problem? And if Rockstar granted your wish to have an invisible wall arround your yacht (that was pretty much the same of me saying I want an invisible wall arround my character so I can walk arround without being in passive without getting killed, or arround my car so nobody can blow it up), what would you do then? Would your gameplay be incredibly improved because you can stare at your screen, on an online game, not interacting with anybody else? Or acting like a kid on the chat spamming stuff like "I'm such a pro I have my own yacht, kill me if you can noobs lolz"?

[Nutduster]

Conversely, no one has come aboard my boat since i got it days ago. Not that i am complaining but the novelty has pretty much worn off that not many will bother?

 

I've had a pretty steady stream of looky-loos (mildly annoying but not a huge deal), as well as guys I killed in free roam who just won't let it go. For instance I killed a guy yesterday who had a bounty on him - just one kill, with an obvious motivation behind it, and then I left the area. He then slapped a $9000 bounty on me, sent me hate mail, and chased me all over the map. I killed him a couple more times while trying to just go about my business. Eventually a friend joined the lobby and we went to my yacht to hang out without being attacked by this lunatic; he proceeded to go passive, get on the yacht with us, and do a bunch of stupid animations while standing directly in front of us, over and over for ten minutes, until we went into the interior and left him outside. Then he stayed out there waiting on us (plus more hate mail) until we quit the session to do a heist.

 

To some extent, GTA is just a troll's paradise anyway. But I don't see the harm in having yachts be one small island of refuge from the assholes.

[Semaj 2JZ♢]

Seeing as the goal of the majority of GTAO players is to piss off their opponent, the last thing you should do is go publicly admit what people can do to accomplish exactly that. Lol. I'd be freeloading, littering and generally annoying any pretentious turd, thinking he/she is an actual somebody just for the virtual crap they have...lolz to the tenth degree.

[Nutduster]

But different opinions tend to naturally origin a debate. Talking by myself, I also take my own opinions on a subjective way, but I simply don't understand what's your goal: you don't want people stepping inside your yacht, but why? If they kill you or steal/destroy your heli or boats is understandable, but if they just walk arround what is the problem? And if Rockstar granted your wish to have an invisible wall arround your yacht (that was pretty much the same of me saying I want an invisible wall arround my character so I can walk arround without being in passive without getting killed, or arround my car so nobody can blow it up), what would you do then? Would your gameplay be incredibly improved because you can stare at your screen, on an online game, not interacting with anybody else? Or acting like a kid on the chat spamming stuff like "I'm such a pro I have my own yacht, kill me if you can noobs lolz"?

 

I want basically just this: to have a place in free roam that I can chill out without danger of being attacked and without trolls doing idiotic animations four inches away from me (and probably waiting until my back is turned so they can turn off passive and THEN kill me). Again: I don't think this is a big ask. And I don't ever spend more than 10-15 minutes on the yacht. I like to go there to get away from free roam violence for a bit, to hang out until I can do another VIP work, or whatever. Don't want to switch sessions because it takes forever sitting through loading screens, and if I'm playing with friends, they have to switch with me (and we all know what a crapshoot that can be).

[TreFacTor]

I must be one of the few players that doesn't care about randoms on my yacht.

 

.. sh*t... its all cool.

 

 

Probably because im always super stoned when im on my yacht.. Enjoying the buzz.

 

Its not like they can actually do anything, they can't attack. The only thing they can do to try and annoy me is change the radio station... But the jokes on them, because after a few doobs i love every song that plays anyways.

We agree on very little but this I can concur. They can't hurt you or enter the interior so I don't see the problem.

[Jenkiiii]

 

But different opinions tend to naturally origin a debate. Talking by myself, I also take my own opinions on a subjective way, but I simply don't understand what's your goal: you don't want people stepping inside your yacht, but why? If they kill you or steal/destroy your heli or boats is understandable, but if they just walk arround what is the problem? And if Rockstar granted your wish to have an invisible wall arround your yacht (that was pretty much the same of me saying I want an invisible wall arround my character so I can walk arround without being in passive without getting killed, or arround my car so nobody can blow it up), what would you do then? Would your gameplay be incredibly improved because you can stare at your screen, on an online game, not interacting with anybody else? Or acting like a kid on the chat spamming stuff like "I'm such a pro I have my own yacht, kill me if you can noobs lolz"?

 

I want basically just this: to have a place in free roam that I can chill out without danger of being attacked and without trolls doing idiotic animations four inches away from me (and probably waiting until my back is turned so they can turn off passive and THEN kill me). Again: I don't think this is a big ask. And I don't ever spend more than 10-15 minutes on the yacht. I like to go there to get away from free roam violence for a bit, to hang out until I can do another VIP work, or whatever. Don't want to switch sessions because it takes forever sitting through loading screens, and if I'm playing with friends, they have to switch with me (and we all know what a crapshoot that can be).

 

 

Seriously, man, you need to chill.

 

Set the defences of your yacht to ON, which will enforce passive mode when on board, and let the trolls and undesirables to whatever they want. They're only trolling you because you've got something they don't have, try to appreciate that, otherwise they would be on their own yacht enjoying the benefits of it.

 

And send them a message like this:

 

 

LOL

Edited January 6, 2016 by Jenkiiii

[Nutduster]

 

 

 

 

I want basically just this: to have a place in free roam that I can chill out without danger of being attacked and without trolls doing idiotic animations four inches away from me (and probably waiting until my back is turned so they can turn off passive and THEN kill me). Again: I don't think this is a big ask. And I don't ever spend more than 10-15 minutes on the yacht. I like to go there to get away from free roam violence for a bit, to hang out until I can do another VIP work, or whatever. Don't want to switch sessions because it takes forever sitting through loading screens, and if I'm playing with friends, they have to switch with me (and we all know what a crapshoot that can be).

 

 

Seriously, man, you need to chill.

 

Set the defences of your yacht to ON, which will enforce passive mode when on board, and let the trolls and undesirables to whatever they want. They're only trolling you because you've got something they don't, try to appreciate that, otherwise they would be on their own yacht enjoying the benefits of it.

 

 

I am by no means worked up about anything. Just stating my opinion. Personally I don't like when other players follow me around - I don't like it in real life either, it reminds me of that annoying older brother sticking his finger two inches from his younger sibling's face and yelling, "I'm not touching you! I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU!!!" It's totally juvenile and yes, you can try to ignore it, but the game developers have the ability to actually stop them from doing it, which in turn makes the game more enjoyable for people like me. So why not do it?

Edited January 6, 2016 by Nutduster

[Jenkiiii]

 

 

 

 

 

I want basically just this: to have a place in free roam that I can chill out without danger of being attacked and without trolls doing idiotic animations four inches away from me (and probably waiting until my back is turned so they can turn off passive and THEN kill me). Again: I don't think this is a big ask. And I don't ever spend more than 10-15 minutes on the yacht. I like to go there to get away from free roam violence for a bit, to hang out until I can do another VIP work, or whatever. Don't want to switch sessions because it takes forever sitting through loading screens, and if I'm playing with friends, they have to switch with me (and we all know what a crapshoot that can be).

 

 

Seriously, man, you need to chill.

 

Set the defences of your yacht to ON, which will enforce passive mode when on board, and let the trolls and undesirables to whatever they want. They're only trolling you because you've got something they don't, try to appreciate that, otherwise they would be on their own yacht enjoying the benefits of it.

 

 

I am by no means worked up about anything. Just stating my opinion. Personally I don't like when other players follow me around - I don't like it in real life either, it reminds me of that annoying older brother sticking his finger two inches from his younger sibling's face and yelling, "I'm not touching you! I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU!!!" It's totally juvenile and yes, you can try to ignore it, but the game developers have the ability to actually stop them from doing it, which in turn makes the game more enjoyable for people like me. So why not do it?

 

 

You're right, GTA online should be programmed exactly the way you want it, I'm not arguing with you.

[Nutduster]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I want basically just this: to have a place in free roam that I can chill out without danger of being attacked and without trolls doing idiotic animations four inches away from me (and probably waiting until my back is turned so they can turn off passive and THEN kill me). Again: I don't think this is a big ask. And I don't ever spend more than 10-15 minutes on the yacht. I like to go there to get away from free roam violence for a bit, to hang out until I can do another VIP work, or whatever. Don't want to switch sessions because it takes forever sitting through loading screens, and if I'm playing with friends, they have to switch with me (and we all know what a crapshoot that can be).

 

 

Seriously, man, you need to chill.

 

Set the defences of your yacht to ON, which will enforce passive mode when on board, and let the trolls and undesirables to whatever they want. They're only trolling you because you've got something they don't, try to appreciate that, otherwise they would be on their own yacht enjoying the benefits of it.

 

 

I am by no means worked up about anything. Just stating my opinion. Personally I don't like when other players follow me around - I don't like it in real life either, it reminds me of that annoying older brother sticking his finger two inches from his younger sibling's face and yelling, "I'm not touching you! I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU!!!" It's totally juvenile and yes, you can try to ignore it, but the game developers have the ability to actually stop them from doing it, which in turn makes the game more enjoyable for people like me. So why not do it?

 

 

You're right, GTA online should be programmed exactly the way you want it, I'm not arguing with you.

 

 

And that kind of sh*t right there is why I usually bow out of threads like this early and with great prejudice. What is the point talking to people like you? I'm suggesting an extremely small change that is just an extension of functionality already in the game (mainly the existing yacht access setting and the defense system), and you're acting like I asked Rockstar to grant my character a personal throne on top of Maze Bank and a scepter that can kill any other player at will.

Edited January 6, 2016 by Nutduster

[Jenkiiii]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I want basically just this: to have a place in free roam that I can chill out without danger of being attacked and without trolls doing idiotic animations four inches away from me (and probably waiting until my back is turned so they can turn off passive and THEN kill me). Again: I don't think this is a big ask. And I don't ever spend more than 10-15 minutes on the yacht. I like to go there to get away from free roam violence for a bit, to hang out until I can do another VIP work, or whatever. Don't want to switch sessions because it takes forever sitting through loading screens, and if I'm playing with friends, they have to switch with me (and we all know what a crapshoot that can be).

 

 

Seriously, man, you need to chill.

 

Set the defences of your yacht to ON, which will enforce passive mode when on board, and let the trolls and undesirables to whatever they want. They're only trolling you because you've got something they don't, try to appreciate that, otherwise they would be on their own yacht enjoying the benefits of it.

 

 

I am by no means worked up about anything. Just stating my opinion. Personally I don't like when other players follow me around - I don't like it in real life either, it reminds me of that annoying older brother sticking his finger two inches from his younger sibling's face and yelling, "I'm not touching you! I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU!!!" It's totally juvenile and yes, you can try to ignore it, but the game developers have the ability to actually stop them from doing it, which in turn makes the game more enjoyable for people like me. So why not do it?

 

 

You're right, GTA online should be programmed exactly the way you want it, I'm not arguing with you.

 

 

And that kind of sh*t right there is why I usually bow out of threads like this early and with great prejudice. What is the point talking to people like you? I'm suggesting an extremely small change that is just an extension of functionality already in the game (mainly the existing yacht access setting and the defense system), and you're acting like I asked Rockstar to grant my character a personal throne on top of Maze Bank and a scepter that can kill any other player at will.

 

 

You need to chill out, man - you're one of the people I listen to on this forum, so here goes, let me explain it to you.

 

The external part of your yacht is not private property per se, it's still an accessible part of the public freemode lobby, including the choppers and boats that spawn there. That's the way Rockstar have programmed it. The reason Rockstar did this is so that there is an open section containing cushions and canopies and hot-tubs available for guests and trolls alike, that anyone can visit in passive mode and enjoy, and also an internal section of the yacht that only you and your invited guests can access - an area with four bedrooms, weapons, a bar, bathrooms, wardrobes, etc... an internal section that acts in exactly the same way as one of your apartments, including a small loading sequence, away from the freemode lobby.

 

I know you don't like the way Rockstar have programmed the game, with the external part of the yacht essentially being an extension to the freemode experience, but that's the way it is, and I agree with it because it's an attempt at making GTA online more sociable. And you can still turn on defences to rid yourself of griefers.

 

Your issue is learning how to deal with the pelvis thrusting dickheads.

[Nutduster]

You are offering a lot of baseless speculation about what Rockstar did and why they did it. I think assuming they did anything on purpose, or that even if it's deliberate that it will stay that way forever, is a mistake. If so, why does the yacht access setting seem to do nothing? Why does moving the yacht sometimes take other players with me and sometimes not? And why does moving the yacht cost 25K but only lasts as long as you're in the same session?

 

It's not unheard of for Rockstar to either not program something right, or to program it one way and then change their minds and do something else later. Personally I feel that a floating apartment/vehicle that costs 6-10 million can and should have options to be free of trolls. That's my opinion, and bottom line, no amount of words from anybody is going to change that. By all means disagree - I find it a better use of my time to bow out of this pointless, circular conversation and go email Rockstar about it again.

[Str33tJustus]

Should uninvited strangers be allowed on your yacht? No.

Do I care even the slightest if they come aboard? No.

 

Poor people like nice things too. If they're invading your yacht while in passive, then they're not only poor but also scared for their lives. That's no way for a virtual representation of someone to live, it's just sad...let them see that the grass truly is greener on the other side.

Edited January 6, 2016 by Str33tJustus

[Gabriela_L]

nothing better than chilling on someone elses yacht.

 

Get to save my 10 million and do pretty much the same sh*t as them.

 

lol that is what makes them angry

[Fox2Quick]

In all actuality, this discussion is more of an extension of the balconies on properties discussion. The exterior of the owned property is open to the public. That's just the way it is. You can use hyperboles all you want (ex: "it's not like I'm asking for a throne on top of maze bank..."), but that doesn't change the fact that you are indeed looking for the game to be changed in order to suit your personal wants. That in and of itself isn't the issue, the issue is that you're complaining about the way the game currently functions and essentially implying that it NEEDS to be changed to how you want because it doesn't function right as is. In reality, there are several existing in-game solutions/preventative measures in place to avoid such situations that you're bothered by. The fact that you're unhappy with those existing options is one thing, but to claim that you're not debating about it when you've clearly spent time countering people's comments is silly.

 

To summarize: so be it if you're unhappy with the way it is now, you are free to share that, but you're posts come off as a bit entitled. The way you've worded your opinion on the matter reads as if you feel you're entitled to have R* make changes because you personally are frustrated with the way other people choose to interact with you in an open, multiplayer environment.

[Pete_1]

Killing unwanted visitors with Hydra's cannon is good way to get rid off them. Turn defenses off just before you are going to start firing. Repeat as many times needed, but beware of homing missiles. I don't usually mind if randoms go to visit on my Yacht while I'm away, but those annoying ones either gets sniped or I use the Hydra.

[Bonus Bertie]

Yeah yeah yeah, this is the 100th time this thread has been made.

 

Hmm...yeah, you're right...um...yeah. Goodbye

Reported for off topic and trolling. Same every thread.

[Jenkiiii]

Can anyone confirm that you're able to use 'personal' passive mode on board other peoples' yachts?

 

If so, I don't think that's right. The yacht owner should be able to globally enforce passive mode on/off on their yacht and be able to kill and evict undesirable players.

Edited January 6, 2016 by Jenkiiii

[SaltyGTAFMember]

Can anyone confirm that you're able to use passive mode on board other peoples' yachts?

 

If so, I don't think that's right. The yacht owner should be able to globally enforce passive mode on/off on their yacht and be able to kill and evict undesirable players.

If you enter the yacht and have passive mode on then, the owner cannot undo your passive. If you go on the yacht then the yacht is passive mode and the players are not.

It'll be game broken if you can undo someone passive mode.

Even if it was possible a safe hazard would add a countdown to the yacht owner then everyone else would blast you(cannot enter yacht during countdown).

Edited January 6, 2016 by DumbForum

[Jenkiiii]

 

Can anyone confirm that you're able to use passive mode on board other peoples' yachts?

 

If so, I don't think that's right. The yacht owner should be able to globally enforce passive mode on/off on their yacht and be able to kill and evict undesirable players.

If you enter the yacht and have passive mode on then, the owner cannot undo your passive. If you go on the yacht then the yacht is passive mode and the players are not.

It'll be game broken if you can undo someone passive mode.

Even if it was possible a safe hazard would add a countdown to the yacht owner then everyone else would blast you(cannot enter yacht during countdown).

 

 

Sure, but when the yacht owner turns the yacht defences OFF, and subsequently re-equips personal weapons, passive mode should also be disabled on all yacht visitors so that the yacht owner can evict undesirables by killing them.

 

You shouldn't be able to board another person's yacht in passive mode when the yacht owner doesn't want you to, or how else can the yacht owner evict you?

 

I'm trying to establish if this is true?

[tannedchoccyuk]

i like strangers on my yacht.. i always kill them more times than they kill me.. i know how to use my weapons.. i kill them until they leave, go passive, or their dead body fells in the water and respawn at the beach.. so we can do some sniper game where i probably also kill them more times. if they choose to go passive, i put defense system on, show " no way" with my fingers..hang around with them till they go off passive again, turn defense off and kill them again a few times. they will all end up leaving the session anyway... i dont like people moaning about strangers, it just tells me how weak they are. u didnt pay 10 mill to jerk of in your hot tube alone, u wanted attention now youve got it.. deal with that...peace.

[Shaytan]

 

Can anyone confirm that you're able to use passive mode on board other peoples' yachts?

 

If so, I don't think that's right. The yacht owner should be able to globally enforce passive mode on/off on their yacht and be able to kill and evict undesirable players.

If you enter the yacht and have passive mode on then, the owner cannot undo your passive. If you go on the yacht then the yacht is passive mode and the players are not.

It'll be game broken if you can undo someone passive mode.

Even if it was possible a safe hazard would add a countdown to the yacht owner then everyone else would blast you(cannot enter yacht during countdown).

That's a really dangerous feature to add to the game's code, because of PC - it makes me really uncomfortable to think it could be exploited by modders, even because passive mode is in multiple situations a possible way to avoid them.