Should The Savage get a Buff in the next update?

[Fireboy769]

C'mon. Everyone knows that the Savage should really have a buff. It's a freaking Hind! (That reminds me of a Apache Helicopter) A Hind is supposed to be a flying tank! A absolute Death Machine! A impressive piece of equipment. Except we get a helicopter that can barely take a whole pistol magazine..

[Hunter]

Without question yes. Absolutely. Definitely. 100%.

 

Even with stronger armour, the Savage would have a lot of other short comings to keep it balanced. The cannon has a short range (unlike a Hind), the cannon can't be aimed (unlike a Hind), it has no flares (unlike a Hind), most important of all - it has almost no chance of dodging a homing launcher (unlike a Hind).

 

There are already so many downsides to this helicopter that I think Rockstar can afford to give it just one strength. The armour it has right now is just crazy anyway - I tested and four bullets of the new revolver literally made it explode.

 

That's not balanced. It's also physically impossible. If it wasn't for my strong feelings of mourning for this wonderful helicopter, it would, however be laughable. The flying tank (Savage/Hind) wasn't made to be a joke though. It needs an armour buff ASAP.

 

Edit: the proof's in the pudding:

 

 

 

 

In other news:

 

 

 

Edited December 21, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew

[nWo_Y2J_2015]

Everything should have a buff.

[Is this The Guy?]

Yes definitely

[Hunter]

I did a test earlier. I'm on a 360 right now, so can't put a link to it, but here was the main highlight of the results:

 

The Savage exploded after 4 bullets from a revolver.

 

The Ruffian (a little bike) blew up after 37 shots from the same gun.

 

There's clearly something very funny with the armour on the Savage.

[saintsrow]

Everything should have a buff.

Since I own the Savage, yes, it should be buffed.

 

Damn piece of sh*t turns like a barge, and as everyone has pointed out, it's paper thin. I want a instant-response, super-maneuverable, super-speed, indestructible flying death machine.

 

Yes, buff it.

 

[Sentinel Actual]

It is honestly pathetic. Hinds are designed to tank anti-armour rounds up to 23mm, they're called "flying tanks" for a reason. They're not maneuverable, but they have the firepower and the armor to take on most anything. They have flares too, to ward off anti-air missiles. The Savage is not these things and it needs to be. All helicopters need flares, or take out the abomination that is the Homing Launcher.

[Hunter]

@Fireboy769

 

Once more people have voted, you should email the results of this to Rockstar. Just yesterday I emailed them the results of my tests, and gave the best argument for a Savage armour buff I could give. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't - but I want a Savage armour buff more than anything else in the game, so I'll be trying my hardest. I might send another email and plead with them.

Edited December 21, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew

[JC Hammer]

It's a Soviet POS!

 

It should breakdown on its own every few minutes...

[Rented]

More armor and the canon should be only usable by the Co pilot (which makes it more powerful since it's more precise but still not OP)

[Snowej]

The armour it has right now is just crazy anyway - I tested and four bullets of the new revolver literally made it explode.

 

Wondering if you tested that with a pilot? I know with cars, they take much, much more damage if there's no driver.

[DaveGrimes96]

It should, but it won't

Edited December 21, 2015 by DaveGrimes96

[Pizentu]

"NO" shouldnt even be an option. It needs to take at least one rocket but 2 preferably. Doing this and making the rockets a little cheaper and hold more.

[shadyelf]

this is the problem with multiplayer games

 

things can't be as cool as they should because of balance...and we can't have it in SP because R* wants us all online

 

but yeah it could use some buffs, it handles like a drunk elephant and can take as many hits as a bunny

[Hunter]

 

The armour it has right now is just crazy anyway - I tested and four bullets of the new revolver literally made it explode.

 

Wondering if you tested that with a pilot? I know with cars, they take much, much more damage if there's no driver.

 

No, though I was aware of that and made sure the Ruffian had no driver either - the test was more a comparison of the two. At any rate, the Ruffian took over 9 times as may bullets as the Savage did - while it took 37, the Savage only took 4.

 

I did the same with the Buzzard, which took 8 shots. There was also a car that took 32, and the Hakuchou (which took 54).

 

I have taken down many Savages before just by spraying them with bullets, and within seconds they'll die - it's incredible how weak it is.

[Is this The Guy?]

And bulletproof windows

[Pizentu]

And bulletproof windows

I think that is taking it too far. That would definitely make it OP. It does need to take more rockets though.

[CrysisAverted]

Better Armor

Missiles run out because logic

[MajorVienna]

Drop your buffs we are merged.

 

But seriously, yes.

[FFDP999]

Sure why not? What's the point of owning something cool and powerful if it has weaker protection than a drunk man on a faggio.

[DustyRider]

I think all the military vehicles need to be as tough as their real life counterparts (or close) but have limited ammo.

[elfoam]

It needs to be able to withstand one homer before is smokes and a second to give it critical damage (blow it up if it has any previous bullet damage etc).

[-Morbid-]

Yes, but it won't. Same with the Valkyrie and the tank.

 

As for the Savage though, it needs to be able to take at least one rocket without blowing up, and it needs a serious buff against small arms fire as well. A little group of 3 Ballas with pistols shouldn't be able to take it out of the sky in 30 seconds or less.

 

Valkyrie almost needs it more. The Savage you can at least camp far away with the rockets and finish things. With the Valkyrie flying low enough to let your gunners use the miniguns will end up with the thing smoking and beeping after a few passes.

[Karrecod]

100%, yes. People that voted no are salty trolls.

[jabloki]

Yes, definetly, absolutley, 100% yes.

[Hunter]

Now that I'm on a PC I can put a link to the armour tests I did:

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/833800-armour-tests-savage-new-car-buzzard-and-ruffian/

 

Pretty disappointed they haven't fixed it already with the festive surprise - it needs fixing right away, so I really don't know what's keeping them. Can't they just get things done for once?

Edited December 29, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew

[Alvarez]

Add the non-export version instead, with Ukrainian markings. ;P

 

This would be the true Savidge. Actually armored one.

[Furry_Monkey]

So you make a thread with a question in the title about whether or not the Savage should have a "buff", then you add a poll to the thread so that people can freely express their opinions, and then you start the thread with this...

 

C'mon. Everyone knows that the Savage should really have a buff.

 

 

 

 

No - it shouldn't have a buff. That's my answer.

[Hunter]

 

 

So you make a thread with a question in the title about whether or not the Savage should have a "buff", then you add a poll to the thread so that people can freely express their opinions, and then you start the thread with this...

 

C'mon. Everyone knows that the Savage should really have a buff.

 

 

 

 

No - it shouldn't have a buff. That's my answer.

 

 

It's biased yeah, but anyone in their right mind would say of course it needs a buff.

 

You'd have to be a maniac to think it doesn't. Crazy. Delusional.

[Ukeman5]

It's a Soviet POS!

 

It should breakdown on its own every few minutes...

More often than not incredibly robust. On the aircraft front I'd take an Il, mig or yak over, probably the worst disaster in aviation since quite possibly the Me 163 komet, the F-35 Jsf.

 

Back on topic. The thing does deserve a buff of some description. It's just too weak for what it is. Useful on missions until the aim bot Ai make the engines stutter with their pistols