Megakillertron Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Has the Homing Launcher been nerfed? A player was just decimating a lobby in a Laser and all he did to avoid my Missiles was fly in a straight line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAWASAKI KX 500 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 it's overpowerd, and pointless and ruins the game, it's useless againts jets and helicopters can never get any kills anyomore, nor can helicopters fly around safely becuse there is always someone to point a homing launcher at you for no reason, the cuban 800 is unique becuse of its dual engine design it survies the first rocket, but it will eventually lose its second engine and die, so if you like to fly but dont like the homing launcher, then get a cuban 800 and you can still get close to other players Hunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megakillertron Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 it's overpowerd, and pointless and ruins the game, it's useless againts jets and helicopters can never get any kills anyomore, nor can helicopters fly around safely becuse there is always someone to point a homing launcher at you for no reason, the cuban 800 is unique becuse of its dual engine design it survies the first rocket, but it will eventually lose its second engine and die, so if you like to fly but dont like the homing launcher, then get a cuban 800 and you can still get close to other players If attack jets are going to exist in the game though we need a countermeasure which is why the Homing Launcher was added. Otherwise it's too easy, like in the case i just experienced, to run amok with no recourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAWASAKI KX 500 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) it's overpowerd, and pointless and ruins the game, it's useless againts jets and helicopters can never get any kills anyomore, nor can helicopters fly around safely becuse there is always someone to point a homing launcher at you for no reason, the cuban 800 is unique becuse of its dual engine design it survies the first rocket, but it will eventually lose its second engine and die, so if you like to fly but dont like the homing launcher, then get a cuban 800 and you can still get close to other players If attack jets are going to exist in the game though we need a countermeasure which is why the Homing Launcher was added. Otherwise it's too easy, like in the case i just experienced, to run amok with no recourse. exactly! it makes no diffrence to the jets becuse they can out run and show up later, but now ground players are overpowerd against helicopters and slower planes Edited December 21, 2015 by KAWASAKI KX 500 Hunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Has the Homing Launcher been nerfed? A player was just decimating a lobby in a Laser and all he did to avoid my Missiles was fly in a straight line. I'm someone who used to use jets a lot, and still knows how to use them well (not that hard to be honest). The homing launcher always was pretty useless against jets. I remember when it came out - the first few days it caught me off guard afew times, but then I had no problems whatsoever from it. I was dodging them all day long before the snow had even went. How I wish I could say something even remotely similar for helicopters. It's a pretty bad counter to jets, sinc all it does is make them spin in a circle. Meanwhile, everything else is ruined (helicopters/unarmed aircraft). In my opinion, there's a strong case to be made for the homing launcher being the worst addition to the game there has ever been. Back on topic, all jets can easily dodge homing launchers. I made a guide a while back on how to dodge them in a Hydra too. What you're seeing is just more people getting the hang of jets, and realising that they're actually pretty easy to rack up massive amounts of kills with. KAWASAKI KX 500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAWASAKI KX 500 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 homing luncher should be removed or helicopters should be given a flare system, YES helicopters should be op, i didnt spend millions on helicopters just for rockstar to make them pointless with a rocket luncher that is almost free rlk232 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 homing luncher should be removed or helicopters should be given a flare system, YES helicopters should be op, i didnt spend millions on helicopters just for rockstar to make them pointless with a rocket luncher that is almost free Helicopters don't need to be overpowered, but they'd still be far from overpowered even if the homing launcher was gone. They have a tiny range on their weapons (which they can't even aim), and have laughably bad armour. The Savage is destroyed by 4 shots of the new revolver. While I'd love to see it nerfed or even removed, I understand that a lot of people are still under the illusion that it actually does anything to jets. So I'm pushing more for an armour buff for helicopters. They are insanely weak as it is now anyway. That's not to say I wouldn't be happy if the homing launcher went/was nerfed. It has done nothing to help anyone against jets (which are the only aircraft overpowered enough to deserve it). Yet it has ruined the incredibly underpowered helicopters, as well as peaceful aircraft. So I think, to be frank, it was the worst thing they ever added. It's an evil, deceptive, conman of a weapon. Rocket Skates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endjinn Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 . homing luncher should be removed or helicopters should be given a flare system, YES helicopters should be op, i didnt spend millions on helicopters just for rockstar to make them pointless with a rocket luncher that is almost free If anything, we need a new, more powerful Homing System. I have no objection to Choppers being given counter-measures, that might actually be more fun. JETS are the problem. There has been a lot of discussion on this forum about this very thing. I think a Merryweather option is probably the best. Maybe a Ground-to-Air system that could be delivered to a players location, much like an Ammo Drop. If a player is being griefed by a jet, one phonecall to Merryweather and they parachute in something like this. Hunter and Forza Harrd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 contentEditable="false">Quote . homing luncher should be removed or helicopters should be given a flare system, YES helicopters should be op, i didnt spend millions on helicopters just for rockstar to make them pointless with a rocket luncher that is almost free If anything, we need a new, more powerful Homing System. I have no objection to Choppers being given counter-measures, that might actually be more fun. JETS are the problem. There has been a lot of discussion on this forum about this very thing. I think a Merryweather option is probably the best. Maybe a Ground-to-Air system that could be delivered to a players location, much like an Ammo Drop. If a player is being griefed by a jet, one phonecall to Merryweather and they parachute in something like this. data-cke-saved-src="http://data.hdwallpapers.im/anti_aircraft_missile_sam.jpg"> Spot on about jets being the problem. Some people don't like to admit it, but jets are pretty overpowered. One thing they could do is nerf both jets and the homing launcher. The jet could have its explosive cannons removed, or it could be made to go much faster so it'd be harder to shoot (as it would in real life). A quick look at wikipedia says some Harriers can reach up to 700mph - I don't know how quick the Hydra goes, but it's clearly not even close to that, and jet pilots would have a much harder time cannon'ing people at that speed. In the case that jets don't get nerfed though, then something needs to be added to truly counter jets from the ground (something like what you put). The current methods are either unreliable and very tricky, or simply not that effective. Without the jets being nerfed, I don't think people would be happy with the homing launcher being nerfed, so helicopters (in my opinion) would deserve flares in this scenario. I personally think helicopters need their armour buffed whatever happens, because right now it's crazy. But that's a little off topic. Back on topic, jets are the problem. They are simply way too powerful. Not to mention they got the homing launcher added, so have upset the balance of all other aircraft that way. Endjinn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAWASAKI KX 500 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 contentEditable="false">Quote . homing luncher should be removed or helicopters should be given a flare system, YES helicopters should be op, i didnt spend millions on helicopters just for rockstar to make them pointless with a rocket luncher that is almost free If anything, we need a new, more powerful Homing System. I have no objection to Choppers being given counter-measures, that might actually be more fun. JETS are the problem. There has been a lot of discussion on this forum about this very thing. I think a Merryweather option is probably the best. Maybe a Ground-to-Air system that could be delivered to a players location, much like an Ammo Drop. If a player is being griefed by a jet, one phonecall to Merryweather and they parachute in something like this. data-cke-saved-src="http://data.hdwallpapers.im/anti_aircraft_missile_sam.jpg"> Spot on about jets being the problem. Some people don't like to admit it, but jets are pretty overpowered. One thing they could do is nerf both jets and the homing launcher. The jet could have its explosive cannons removed, or it could be made to go much faster so it'd be harder to shoot (as it would in real life). A quick look at wikipedia says some Harriers can reach up to 700mph - I don't know how quick the Hydra goes, but it's clearly not even close to that, and jet pilots would have a much harder time cannon'ing people at that speed. In the case that jets don't get nerfed though, then something needs to be added to truly counter jets from the ground (something like what you put). The current methods are either unreliable and very tricky, or simply not that effective. Without the jets being nerfed, I don't think people would be happy with the homing launcher being nerfed, so helicopters (in my opinion) would deserve flares in this scenario. I personally think helicopters need their armour buffed whatever happens, because right now it's crazy. But that's a little off topic. Back on topic, jets are the problem. They are simply way too powerful. Not to mention they got the homing launcher added, so have upset the balance of all other aircraft that way. contentEditable="false">Quote . homing luncher should be removed or helicopters should be given a flare system, YES helicopters should be op, i didnt spend millions on helicopters just for rockstar to make them pointless with a rocket luncher that is almost free If anything, we need a new, more powerful Homing System. I have no objection to Choppers being given counter-measures, that might actually be more fun. JETS are the problem. There has been a lot of discussion on this forum about this very thing. I think a Merryweather option is probably the best. Maybe a Ground-to-Air system that could be delivered to a players location, much like an Ammo Drop. If a player is being griefed by a jet, one phonecall to Merryweather and they parachute in something like this. data-cke-saved-src="http://data.hdwallpapers.im/anti_aircraft_missile_sam.jpg"> Spot on about jets being the problem. Some people don't like to admit it, but jets are pretty overpowered. One thing they could do is nerf both jets and the homing launcher. The jet could have its explosive cannons removed, or it could be made to go much faster so it'd be harder to shoot (as it would in real life). A quick look at wikipedia says some Harriers can reach up to 700mph - I don't know how quick the Hydra goes, but it's clearly not even close to that, and jet pilots would have a much harder time cannon'ing people at that speed. In the case that jets don't get nerfed though, then something needs to be added to truly counter jets from the ground (something like what you put). The current methods are either unreliable and very tricky, or simply not that effective. Without the jets being nerfed, I don't think people would be happy with the homing launcher being nerfed, so helicopters (in my opinion) would deserve flares in this scenario. I personally think helicopters need their armour buffed whatever happens, because right now it's crazy. But that's a little off topic. Back on topic, jets are the problem. They are simply way too powerful. Not to mention they got the homing launcher added, so have upset the balance of all other aircraft that way. if i may just step into the ridicolus here. the jets are so overpowerd and game ruining that at this point we migth as well get a new passive mode system where you have to choose if you want to target all players or players on ground or players not in vehicles, if two players dont have the same setting they can not figth, but then again, probably easier to nerf the jet/launcher or buff up the other aircraft such as helicopters, with armor and maybe even anti lock on flares, or the jet could be alot harder to steal from the base, 1 problem i se with nerfing the hydra is that the hydra owners would get the EXACT same problem as the helicopter owners do now, a massive pricetag for something that does not work, i paid alot for my valkyrie and so far it's miniguns are usless against players on the ground as they cant aim downwards, the main cannon is only effective when hovering directly above the target wich leaves the helicopter and its vrew open for attack from other players in the area, so if anything the launcher should be made less effective against helicopters and small planes, the helicopters needs more armor as they lose the abillity to fly after just a few shots, but probably most important, we need a way to defend ourselvs against jets, jets in real life mostly drop bombs and do dogfigths against other jets anyway, so whats the point of explosive bullets to use on defenseles players? 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Endjinn Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) I actually really like the Homing Launcher, but for cars rather than aircraft. There's just something really funny about blowing someone up two blocks away, especially after they've tried a driveby. Edited December 21, 2015 by Aliashu Heysuse and Misanthrope Z 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megakillertron Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 . homing luncher should be removed or helicopters should be given a flare system, YES helicopters should be op, i didnt spend millions on helicopters just for rockstar to make them pointless with a rocket luncher that is almost free If anything, we need a new, more powerful Homing System. I have no objection to Choppers being given counter-measures, that might actually be more fun. JETS are the problem. I agree, Jets are the issue. Give choppers infinite flares with a cooldown. Or make it so you can't lock onto them at all, i really don't mind. I just need something that's capable of taking a jet down so i can savage the pilot when they're forced to spawn on the street. Hunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheater420 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) All they need to do is add flares for helicopters and make the jet cannon shoot bullets like the mini guns on the valkry or the new limo with a gun on it. Ps did anyone know that new limo mini gun can reach people on their yacht well your on the beach. Edited December 21, 2015 by Cheater420 Hunter and Endjinn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Bean Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 All they need to do is add flares for helicopters and make the jet cannon shoot bullets like the mini guns on the valkry or the new limo with a gun on it. Ps did anyone know that new limo mini gun can reach people on their yacht well your on the beach. Helicopters could really use flares. I'm getting tired of someone shooting a homing launcher from directly in front of me, the rocket whizzes by, only for it to pull a complete U turn and hit me in the back. Helicopters have become useless since they added it in. Some major changes need to happen for the sake of balance. - Helicopters and all non lethal aircraft get flares that have X amount of uses ***or*** Helicopters and all non lethal aircraft receive a massive armor buff so they can take a minimum of two rockets before blowing up. - Jet cannon fires bullets instead of nuclear warheads. They would be equal in power to the current ammunition, but would have no explosive element. - Jets armor/health drastically reduced so that they will explode after 5-6 heavy sniper shots. Right now it takes 10+ shots from a heavy sniper to even disable (engine smoking) a jet, at which point the jet pilot runs to the nearest helipad and gets another jet. Jets can take a homing launcher rocket and not even blow up, but what is supposed to be a heavily armored helicopter (the savage) explodes after one rocket, and can be disabled with less than a magazine from any assault rifle. - Killing another player with a lethal aircraft (buzzard, savage, hydra, etc) and possibly lethal land vehicles disables passive mode for 15 minutes, with the timer resetting after every kill. Many jet whores will end up crashing and when their previously defenseless victims swoop in to get some payback, they jump into passive mode and run straight to the helipad and get another jet. Passive mode should be for people who want to play peacefully, not a place for cowards to hide when they lose their only advantage against someone. - Hydra should not be able to spawn at helipads. I don't care if it can hover or not, it's way too powerful to be so easily accessible. I don't see how anyone could think aerial vehicles are balanced right now, because the hydra just dominates everything with its ability to simply outrun homing rockets and the fact that it can spawn anywhere that a helicopter can. Helicopters get shot down like flies because of the homing launcher that only misses under very strict circumstances. Every lobby you get into nowadays is full of jet reliant cowards who jump into passive upon death and skill-less wiggle snipers (which is for another thread). Hunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertakerfreak1127 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I was so happy when they put the Homing Launcher in the game. I thought "Finally! Something I can take these assholes in jets down with!"Then I realized it's virtually worthless against jets, mainly because it's so goddamn easy to avoid them. If I see a jet, I go into passive and let the guy enjoy paying all those premiums and stroking himself to his K/D ratio. Not worth it. Hunter and Endjinn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAWASAKI KX 500 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 All they need to do is add flares for helicopters and make the jet cannon shoot bullets like the mini guns on the valkry or the new limo with a gun on it. Ps did anyone know that new limo mini gun can reach people on their yacht well your on the beach. - Killing another player with a lethal aircraft (buzzard, savage, hydra, etc) and possibly lethal land vehicles disables passive mode for 15 minutes, with the timer resetting after every kill. Many jet whores will end up crashing and when their previously defenseless victims swoop in to get some payback, they jump into passive mode and run straight to the helipad and get another jet. Passive mode should be for people who want to play peacefully, not a place for cowards to hide when they lose their only advantage against someone. agreed, jet ''pilots'' should not be able to abuse passive mode! Hunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeephouser Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'm a Buzzard pilot and the HL doesn't worry me in the slightest. The minigun is a much greater threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAWASAKI KX 500 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'm a Buzzard pilot and the HL doesn't worry me in the slightest. The minigun is a much greater threat. ok....how? is there a thecnique you use to avoid the homing launchers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) I'm a Buzzard pilot and the HL doesn't worry me in the slightest. The minigun is a much greater threat. ok....how? is there a thecnique you use to avoid the homing launchers? There's a way to (mostly) get around the homing launcher. But it's pretty obvious, using buildings as cover. This assumes you have buildings though, which pretty much cuts off the entire top half of the map. It also restricts a helicopter's ability to fight groups of enemies, since you'll almost definitely be seen long enough to get a lock on at some point. Overall, it still doesn't change that the missiles are unreasonably difficult to actually dodge (dodge, not hide from/evade). It's sometimes possible I know, but difficult enough that it's fair to say it's very overpowered against helicopters. I can usually get quite a few kills out of helicopters, but it's very risky, and sometimes I get a lot of kills; other times none. It's rolling the dice. In my opinion, just because something can technically be worked around, that doesn't mean it's balanced. Technically, a pistol might explode a tank if you shot enough times - a tank vs a pistol is still an unfair fight though. That's how I see the homing launcher/helicopters. Edited December 23, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk9fan97 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 like with all the military vehicles it should have never been added to GTA Online. All you got is whimps using them non stop and killing people for no reason with it. If Rockstar had even an ounce of logic they would at the very least nerf all the military vehicles and the homing launcher..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeephouser Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 If you fly straight at a person with a HL, they will fire and miss. Drop a rocket on them as you fly by, and you've won. Even in the open, this technique works. If you miss, you can still loop back around and get them. It gets harder with two HLs operating in the open. With three, you should definitely bug out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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