Armour tests (Savage, new car, Buzzard, and Ruffian)

[Hunter]

I tested the armour on the Savage, Buzzard, Ruffian, and one of those new armoured cars. Each time, I stood outside the vehicle and shot it with the new revolver (I'm aware vehicles are stronger when you're in them, but this is more to compare them to each other).

 

Savage: 4 shots (or 2 to the tail rotor).

 

Buzzard: 8 shots.

 

Car: 32 shots.

 

Ruffian: 37 shots.

 

Edit: There are more tests behind this spoiler:

 

 

 

Hydra: 4 shots.

 

Annihilator: 7 shots.

 

Rancher (unmodified): 11 shots.

 

Hakuchou: This was hard to count, but looked like at least 54 shots.

 

SuperVolito: 7 shots.

 

Valkyrie: 4 shots.

 

Seashark: 2 shots.

 

Cargobob: 8 shots.

 

Blazer (unmodified): 19 shots.

 

 

 

What the f**k? The Ruffian is stronger than 9 Savages? And why on earth is the Buzzard twice as strong as it? This thing needs buffing ASAP.

Edited December 29, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew

[Mattoropael]

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

[.Vooodu.]

Fix what? It sort of gives incentive to use cars and bikes in drive bys don't it?

 

Ruffian... is awesome

Edited December 19, 2015 by HulioG

[Hunter]

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

 

I know right? It's incredible, it's just crazy.

 

The Savage dwarves the Ruffian, yet this tiny little bike is 9 times stronger than it.

 

It's really nothing like the helicopter in any way - the armour is laughable, the gun's range is tiny and it can't even be aimed, doesn't even have flares, etc. It's a joke.

[.Vooodu.]

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

[Hunter]

Fix what? It sort of gives incentive to use cars and bikes drive bys don't it?

 

Ruffian... is awesome

The Ruffian is awesome yes, but there was already enough incentive to use it.

 

When you fly a Savage, you're already plagued by the fact that everyone has access to almost undodge - able homing missiles. That's enough incentive to not use it - why do 4 bullets have to destroy it as well?

[Hunter]

I might do the same kind of test with other vehicles at some point. I will also email Rockstar at [email protected]

 

It's just insanity.

[JAKEBAB]

Savage can constantly pump out rockets, it doesn't need a buff.

[Hunter]

Savage can constantly pump out rockets, it doesn't need a buff.

The Savage's rockets don't lock onto people pointing the homing launcher at you - who are able to lock onto you from great distances and shoot missiles that are much harder to dodge. An attack helicopter having access to rockets is hardly overpowered - it's an attack helicopter, it's not meant to shoot little flowers.

 

How can anyone defend a little bike being almost 10X as strong as a gigantic armoured attack helicopter?

Edited December 19, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a weak noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Urustay Gordov

[JAKEBAB]

The Savage's rockets don't lock onto people pointing the homing launcher at you - who are able to lock onto you from great distances and shoot missiles that are much harder to dodge. An attack helicopter having access to rockets is hardly overpowered - it's an attack helicopter, it's not meant to shoot little flowers.

 

How can anyone defend a little bike being almost 10X as strong as a gigantic armoured attack helicopter?

 

So you want an aircraft that takes no skill? Why not just use the jet then? If the heli was more armored you could and still can without it just spray the sh*t out of the rockets since there is no reload times. The bike has more armor because of the bad drivers in gta who crash all the time, R* would have people bitching that they can't ride a bike without it blowing up every 10 seconds if it didn't have the armor it has.

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

 

WHat makes you think i can't take down jets? LMFAO

 

I never claimed i can't down jets....ever.

 

I've always claimed to not want to DEAL with jets constantly. Key word is constantly... because GTA is NOT always about fighting damn jet trolls. Learn how to read before you run your mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic.. I agree that the chopper should be able to take more bullets.

Edited December 19, 2015 by HulioG

[Hunter]

 

 

 

No, I want an attack helicopter that can withstand more than four bullets - is that really that much to ask for?

 

Even with more armour, the Savage would still have to put up with the homing launcher - which can lock on to you before you're close enough to use any of your weapons. So how it taking more than four bullets is overpowered ... well that's just beyond me.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a weak noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

 

Just because jets can technically be taken down, that doesn't mean they're not overpowered anyway. I remember back when there was a type of god mode where the cheaters were still vulnerable to being squashed by a tank - I don't suppose anyone would argue that using god mode is fair/balanced.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

WHat makes you think i can't take down jets? LMFAO

 

I never claimed i can't down jets....ever.

 

I've always claimed to not want to DEAL with jets constantly. Key word is constantly... because GTA is NOT always about fighting damn jet trolls. Learn how to read before you run your mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic.. I agree that the chopper should be able to take more bullets.

Seriously, get over it. If you cant deal with them, stay on I/O lobbies, players play the way they want. 2 years already passed and they havent still nerfed them. I guess how many times you have been killed by jets to be that butthurt.

Git gud.

[Sky_Light12]

from start , savage is indeed fragile because the helicopter focus offense than balanced

[JoeFury1997]

It's just a matter of balancing the playing field. Remember when the tank was actually like a tank? Players were unstoppable in it and not many people knew how to properly take one out hence the nerf it got, yeah the savage is meant to be armoured but it has to have sh*tty defense for it to be balanced.

 

It would be better if the savage was armoured against npc fire and slightly more armoured against players.

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

WHat makes you think i can't take down jets? LMFAO

 

I never claimed i can't down jets....ever.

 

I've always claimed to not want to DEAL with jets constantly. Key word is constantly... because GTA is NOT always about fighting damn jet trolls. Learn how to read before you run your mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic.. I agree that the chopper should be able to take more bullets.

Seriously, get over it. If you cant deal with them, stay on I/O lobbies, players play the way they want. 2 years already passed and they havent still nerfed them. I guess how many times you have been killed by jets to be that butthurt.

Git gud.

 

 

 

 

Whether or not Rockstar have done anything doesn't show if it needs doing or not. The game could really do with dedicated servers, better matchmaking, better armour on the Savage, etc. but none of that's here.

 

 

 

from start , savage is indeed fragile because the helicopter focus offense than balanced

 

Its offense isn't even that great though - yeah it's powerful, but all of its weapons have a much shorter range than the homing launcher anyway, and it can't actually aim properly.

 

To me, 4 bullets is just going too far.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

 

 

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a weak noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

 

Just because jets can technically be taken down, that doesn't mean they're not overpowered anyway. I remember back when there was a type of god mode where the cheaters were still vulnerable to being squashed by a tank - I don't suppose anyone would argue that using god mode is fair/balanced.Jets arent overpowered, its you people who are underpowered. Jet pilots have to think about not crashing into buildings while they strafe, and countering them is too easy nowadays.I have sniped a lot of pilots, took them down with my tank. Not only me, i also saw other players taking them down easily. And that comes from a jet griefer.

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

WHat makes you think i can't take down jets? LMFAO

 

I never claimed i can't down jets....ever.

 

I've always claimed to not want to DEAL with jets constantly. Key word is constantly... because GTA is NOT always about fighting damn jet trolls. Learn how to read before you run your mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic.. I agree that the chopper should be able to take more bullets.

Seriously, get over it. If you cant deal with them, stay on I/O lobbies, players play the way they want. 2 years already passed and they havent still nerfed them. I guess how many times you have been killed by jets to be that butthurt.

Git gud.

 

 

 

Oooh f*ck f*ck sakes dude. STFU already.

 

I rarely get killed by jets. Because i know how to deal with them.. Seriously.

 

 

AGAIN... its that i don`t want to constantly DEAL with jet trolls which is the issue.

 

 

Jet trolls means i have to stop what im doing and go into ANTI JET troll mode. Theres certain things i change up to deal with them and those things deter form the rest of the FUN things going on in free roam. Like events to pvp with actual players on the ground.

 

So... Get over yourself and your stupid jet. You`re not special and anyone can use them to troll lobbies. Stop trolling this topic.. and get back on the actual topic which is about the armor of the chopper.

 

Sheesh.

Edited December 19, 2015 by HulioG

[Jenkiiii]

My two cents worth:

 

I agree with @Icantthinkofonew; the Savage is under-armoured and should be able to take more than a single RPG/HL before exploding and killing everyone inside.

 

But I remember when I was a noob; I was out in the desert somewhere and this guy came at me in a buzzard, spawn killing me over and over again. So I started to adopt a similar tactic on noobs myself knowing they didn't have access to RPGs and Miniguns. And that's why Rockstar nerfed the Savage - imagine having that thing coming at you in the desert with unlimited missiles and exploding bullets, over and over again.

 

But that's also where Rockstar have got it wrong. They've nerfed the Savage AND given noobs access to the Homing Launcher. It's a double-whammy negative hit against the Savage that's way to severe...

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a weak noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

 

Just because jets can technically be taken down, that doesn't mean they're not overpowered anyway. I remember back when there was a type of god mode where the cheaters were still vulnerable to being squashed by a tank - I don't suppose anyone would argue that using god mode is fair/balanced.

Jets arent overpowered, its you people who are underpowered. Jet pilots have to think about not crashing into buildings while they strafe, and countering them is too easy nowadays.I have sniped a lot of pilots, took them down with my tank. Not only me, i also saw other players taking them down easily. And that comes from a jet griefer.

 

 

"you people" - Except I've flown jets plenty myself, I even made a guide on how to dodge homing launcher missiles in them. I play the game from all perspectives - on the ground, in a helicopter, in a jet, etc.

 

It's not that hard not to crash a jet. It does take a little practice to get the hang of jets, but nowhere near as much as most players like to make out. More importantly, once you've got the hang of it, it is (in my opinion) pretty unbalanced.

 

Anyway, this topic is about the Savage.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

I tested the armour on the Savage, Buzzard, Ruffian, and one of those new armoured cars. Each time, I stood outside the vehicle and shot it with the new revolver (I'm aware vehicles are stronger when you're in them, but this is more to compare them to each other).

 

Savage: 4 shots (or 2 to the tail rotor).

 

Buzzard: 8 shots.

 

Car: 32 shots.

 

Ruffian: 37 shots.

 

What the f**k? The Ruffian is stronger than 9 Savages? And why on earth is the Buzzard twice as strong as it? This thing needs buffing ASAP.

 

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if the savage gets as strong as a car or ruffian i woud love it more.....i woud not like it to be able to survive a rocket though.....especialy not if the rocket hits anywhere close to the rotors

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

If I was in charge of how strong it was made, I would be tempted to make it survive one missile (since they're so hard to dodge), but at the same time I can see how that would get annoying when you're on the ground.

 

At any rate, it's more important that it at least survives some gunfire anyway - this, to me, is in pretty urgent need of fixing.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

 

 

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

WHat makes you think i can't take down jets? LMFAO

 

I never claimed i can't down jets....ever.

 

I've always claimed to not want to DEAL with jets constantly. Key word is constantly... because GTA is NOT always about fighting damn jet trolls. Learn how to read before you run your mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic.. I agree that the chopper should be able to take more bullets.

Seriously, get over it. If you cant deal with them, stay on I/O lobbies, players play the way they want. 2 years already passed and they havent still nerfed them. I guess how many times you have been killed by jets to be that butthurt.

Git gud.

 

 

Oooh f*ck f*ck sakes dude. STFU already.

 

I rarely get killed by jets. Because i know how to deal with them.. Seriously.

 

 

AGAIN... its that i don`t want to constantly DEAL with jet trolls which is the issue.

 

 

Jet trolls means i have to stop what im doing and go into ANTI JET troll mode. Theres certain things i change up to deal with them and those things deter form the rest of the FUN things going on in free roam. Like events to pvp with actual players on the ground.

 

So... Get over yourself and your stupid jet. You`re not special and anyone can use them to troll lobbies. Stop trolling this topic.. and get back on the actual topic which is about the armor of the chopper.

 

Sheesh.

I never said i am special for killing players with jets, i only find it funny.Do you think you are special for playing auto aim?.I played a lot of deathmatches on free aim, and have a kd of 3.44 on my other character(the old one, with which i never trolled anyone in freeroam).Imo, get gud and take down some jets if you want someone to listen to you.

On topic, the savage is good the way it is, buzzards have better armor because its cockpit is less bulletproof and it has actually a pea shooter, compared to the savage's explosive cannons. Jets have explosive cannons too, but its less powerful than that of the savage and they have to be aimed while moving at supersonic speeds. Choppers dont have this problem, and its a great advantage over jets if you want to blow up ground players.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I was in charge of how strong it was made, I would be tempted to make it survive one missile (since they're so hard to dodge), but at the same time I can see how that would get annoying when you're on the ground.

 

At any rate, it's more important that it at least survives some gunfire anyway - this, to me, is in pretty urgent need of fixing.

 

survive.....maybe....not soak it up though.....after it woud get hit by a homing launcher rocket it shoud crash within the minute

[Hunter]

survive.....maybe....not soak it up though.....after it woud get hit by a homing launcher rocket it shoud crash within the minute

 

 

That'd be great in my opinion. It really needs more resistance to bullets anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

WHat makes you think i can't take down jets? LMFAO

 

I never claimed i can't down jets....ever.

 

I've always claimed to not want to DEAL with jets constantly. Key word is constantly... because GTA is NOT always about fighting damn jet trolls. Learn how to read before you run your mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic.. I agree that the chopper should be able to take more bullets.

Seriously, get over it. If you cant deal with them, stay on I/O lobbies, players play the way they want. 2 years already passed and they havent still nerfed them. I guess how many times you have been killed by jets to be that butthurt.

Git gud.

 

 

Oooh f*ck f*ck sakes dude. STFU already.

 

I rarely get killed by jets. Because i know how to deal with them.. Seriously.

 

 

AGAIN... its that i don`t want to constantly DEAL with jet trolls which is the issue.

 

 

Jet trolls means i have to stop what im doing and go into ANTI JET troll mode. Theres certain things i change up to deal with them and those things deter form the rest of the FUN things going on in free roam. Like events to pvp with actual players on the ground.

 

So... Get over yourself and your stupid jet. You`re not special and anyone can use them to troll lobbies. Stop trolling this topic.. and get back on the actual topic which is about the armor of the chopper.

 

Sheesh.

I never said i am special for killing players with jets, i only find it funny.Do you think you are special for playing auto aim?.I played a lot of deathmatches on free aim, and have a kd of 3.44 on my other character(the old one, with which i never trolled anyone in freeroam).Imo, get gud and take down some jets if you want someone to listen to you.

On topic, the savage is good the way it is, buzzards have better armor because its cockpit is less bulletproof and it has actually a pea shooter, compared to the savage's explosive cannons. Jets have explosive cannons too, but its less powerful than that of the savage and they have to be aimed while moving at supersonic speeds. Choppers dont have this problem, and its a great advantage over jets if you want to blow up ground players.

 

 

 

Does this topic really have to be turned into a penis - measuring contest?

 

Also, the jets explosive cannons are exactly the same as the Savage's cannon. Jets are stronger too, I'm pretty sure. They can also dodge homing launchers quite easily.

[.Vooodu.]

 

Do you think you are special for playing auto aim?.

 

 

 

...When i play free roam i play in free aim. Whats your issue man..lol

 

 

At this point im just gonna report you for trolling even tho i barely ever report anyone.. As much as like to argue with people, i only like to argue when on topic and people actually have points.

 

You are not on topic. You are making no sense.. and really being a troll.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

survive.....maybe....not soak it up though.....after it woud get hit by a homing launcher rocket it shoud crash within the minute

 

 

That'd be great in my opinion. It really needs more resistance to bullets anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

WHat makes you think i can't take down jets? LMFAO

 

I never claimed i can't down jets....ever.

 

I've always claimed to not want to DEAL with jets constantly. Key word is constantly... because GTA is NOT always about fighting damn jet trolls. Learn how to read before you run your mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic.. I agree that the chopper should be able to take more bullets.

Seriously, get over it. If you cant deal with them, stay on I/O lobbies, players play the way they want. 2 years already passed and they havent still nerfed them. I guess how many times you have been killed by jets to be that butthurt.

Git gud.

 

 

Oooh f*ck f*ck sakes dude. STFU already.

 

I rarely get killed by jets. Because i know how to deal with them.. Seriously.

 

 

AGAIN... its that i don`t want to constantly DEAL with jet trolls which is the issue.

 

 

Jet trolls means i have to stop what im doing and go into ANTI JET troll mode. Theres certain things i change up to deal with them and those things deter form the rest of the FUN things going on in free roam. Like events to pvp with actual players on the ground.

 

So... Get over yourself and your stupid jet. You`re not special and anyone can use them to troll lobbies. Stop trolling this topic.. and get back on the actual topic which is about the armor of the chopper.

 

Sheesh.

I never said i am special for killing players with jets, i only find it funny.Do you think you are special for playing auto aim?.I played a lot of deathmatches on free aim, and have a kd of 3.44 on my other character(the old one, with which i never trolled anyone in freeroam).Imo, get gud and take down some jets if you want someone to listen to you.

On topic, the savage is good the way it is, buzzards have better armor because its cockpit is less bulletproof and it has actually a pea shooter, compared to the savage's explosive cannons. Jets have explosive cannons too, but its less powerful than that of the savage and they have to be aimed while moving at supersonic speeds. Choppers dont have this problem, and its a great advantage over jets if you want to blow up ground players.

 

 

 

Does this topic really have to be turned into a penis - measuring contest?

 

Also, the jets explosive cannons are exactly the same as the Savage's cannon. Jets are stronger too, I'm pretty sure. They can also dodge homing launchers quite easily.

 

the savage deserves a complete resistance against anything less then a round fired from a heavy sniper

 

also ignore that other guy, every turd with a feel for balance knows the jet is ridiculously overpowered.....and you can cure ignorance, but not stupid

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Hind is called the Flying Tank.

 

Just look at the sorry excuse we call a Rhino in GTAO. "Incredibly fragile metal coffin" is apparently what the word "tank" means to Rockstar.

 

It can take 3-4 rpgs and TON of bullets, it has unlimited shells and can be delivered to you constantly for a small fee.

 

Theres nothing really wrong with the tank. Unless you think it should be a one man troll machine. Which at this point goes to the hydra which should be nerfed

Fu*k off, every time i see you you complain about jets because you cant take them out, you are a weak noob.

Git Gud HulioG, and then your words will have a weight.

 

 

Just because jets can technically be taken down, that doesn't mean they're not overpowered anyway. I remember back when there was a type of god mode where the cheaters were still vulnerable to being squashed by a tank - I don't suppose anyone would argue that using god mode is fair/balanced.

Jets arent overpowered, its you people who are underpowered. Jet pilots have to think about not crashing into buildings while they strafe, and countering them is too easy nowadays.I have sniped a lot of pilots, took them down with my tank. Not only me, i also saw other players taking them down easily. And that comes from a jet griefer.

 

 

"you people" - Except I've flown jets plenty myself, I even made a guide on how to dodge homing launcher missiles in them. I play the game from all perspectives - on the ground, in a helicopter, in a jet, etc.

 

It's not that hard not to crash a jet. It does take a little practice to get the hang of jets, but nowhere near as much as most players like to make out. More importantly, once you've got the hang of it, it is (in my opinion) pretty unbalanced.

 

Anyway, this topic is about the Savage.

In this game almost nothing takes much practise.

Sniping?In GTA 5 i can become a good sniper in 5 minutes, in battlefield i need a lot of practise if i want some chance at sniping other people.

Driving? Dont make me laugh. 5 years old kids can defeat adults in a GTA online races nowadays, and you call that needs practise?. Play some hardcore game simulators and then we will talk about it.

There a lot of other examples i could make if you want.

I agree with you btw that avoiding homing missiles takes a lot of mad skill in a chopper, but only that and few others, very few, so jets shouldnt be penalized for that.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Urustay Gordov