The Schafter V12 is WAY faster, but the LWB...?

[PatG]

The T20 has a fairly poor top speed though, even a Zentorno rips it apart on open tracks.

Yes I'm very well aware of that, but I just put that there because...

 

To the people talking about outrunning T20s....... you're just getting chase by terrible drivers.

Edited December 19, 2015 by PSgtaplayer1

[ChorizoBlanco]

 

 

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Edited December 19, 2015 by ChorizoBlanco

[xInfamousRYANx]

Ever driven the lurcher and the standard buccaneer ?. LWB makes the car handle very different, same on a lesser extent for the V12's

 

Also, T20 even started at the front and still got overtaken.

 

The T20 has a fairly poor top speed though, even a Zentorno rips it apart on open tracks.

They are the same Zentorno and T20

[We Are Ninja]

Driving to and from the mod shop in all three cars once fully modded revealed no discernible difference in handling, top speed, or acceleration.

 

I noticed you could change the trim color on the V12.

 

I feel like I just got trolled by Rockstar and the forum blowing up the status of the new Schafters.

 

I got Schafted.

Bro, are you on the drugs? The V12 looks like the Schafter and the Schwartzer had a baby. The V12 LWB looks like a Schafter, a Schwartzer and a limo had a baby. If you couldn't tell a difference in driving all three, you must be absolutely ham-fisted, LOL. The original Schafter is positively gutless when compared to the V12's, and the LWB feels slower and clumsier than the SWB. And it's all very noticeable... o.O

[Big_Show]

I won a top speed challenge in the armored V12, it's quick and it takes 1 RPG like an insurgent, Lov it!

 

[Endjinn]

 

The T20 has a fairly poor top speed though, even a Zentorno rips it apart on open tracks.

Way to open up a can of worms dude. lol

[Blasterman4EVER]

You guys act like you work at a Schafter dealership.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Blasterman4EVER

[Sentinel Driver]

 

The T20 has a fairly poor top speed though, even a Zentorno rips it apart on open tracks.

Yes I'm very well aware of that, but I just put that there because...

 

To the people talking about outrunning T20s....... you're just getting chase by terrible drivers.

 

Actually T20 has a top speed of 122mph and it is tied with Zentorno, Turismo and Osiris in top speed

[Anna Deadly]

Driving to and from the mod shop in all three cars once fully modded revealed no discernible difference in handling, top speed, or acceleration.

I noticed you could change the trim color on the V12.

I feel like I just got trolled by Rockstar and the forum blowing up the status of the new Schafters.

I got Schafted.

Noone forced you to buy them stop being so negative if you can't notice the changes in a car's power. This the same thing with the baller "I can't see the difference bla bla bla" it's so annoying. Edited December 19, 2015 by IceColdFrostMT

[Blasterman4EVER]

 

Driving to and from the mod shop in all three cars once fully modded revealed no discernible difference in handling, top speed, or acceleration.

I noticed you could change the trim color on the V12.

I feel like I just got trolled by Rockstar and the forum blowing up the status of the new Schafters.

I got Schafted.

Noone forced you to buy them stop being so negative if you can't notice the changes in a car's power. This the same thing with the baller "I can't see the difference bla bla bla" it's so annoying.

Is it really that annoying? Can you imagine what annoyance I am dealing with on my side over here? I've got people posting pics of the two cars side by side and telling me I am blind as a bat and I keep looking at them and I can still barely tell any difference at all!

 

Like I said, I'm going to have to really, really, really spend some time messing with all three cars to tell any differences.

 

As for the people telling me I haven't driven them enough, with most cars, a simple drive downtown is usually enough to tell if there is any significant and visceral difference between cars.

 

I still think the people here are so adamant about the differences between each one because they want to feel like their purchase is justified over picking up a car you can find on the street.

[Anna Deadly]

 

 

Driving to and from the mod shop in all three cars once fully modded revealed no discernible difference in handling, top speed, or acceleration.

I noticed you could change the trim color on the V12.

I feel like I just got trolled by Rockstar and the forum blowing up the status of the new Schafters.

I got Schafted.

Noone forced you to buy them stop being so negative if you can't notice the changes in a car's power. This the same thing with the baller "I can't see the difference bla bla bla" it's so annoying.

Is it really that annoying? Can you imagine what annoyance I am dealing with on my side over here? I've got people posting pics of the two cars side by side and telling me I am blind as a bat and I keep looking at them and I can still barely tell any difference at all!

Like I said, I'm going to have to really, really, really spend some time messing with all three cars to tell any differences.

As for the people telling me I haven't driven them enough, with most cars, a simple drive downtown is usually enough to tell if there is any significant and visceral difference between cars.

I still think the people here are so adamant about the differences between each one because they want to feel like their purchase is justified over picking up a car you can find on the street.

There aren't that many changes in the looks dept except for the bumpers. The Schafter LWB is basically just a long wheel base original schafter in terms of performance but it's stupid to say there isn't an upgrade in the Schafter V12's performance since it can keep up with the supers in terms of top speed. You'll see the difference on the highway not downtown.

 

Edited December 19, 2015 by IceColdFrostMT

[BRAAAP_STUTUTU]

guys just ignore him,chances are he's getting the worst troll,biggest sh*tposter award anyway...

[Reathyr]

Not sure if trolling....hmmmm

 

Eh, for the sake of argument, Schafter V12 SWB 3rd fastest car in the game in a straight line (4th if you count the Dominator Racecar from SP), Schafter LWB similar to normal Schafter in laptimes, handles a bit differently, heavier then the normal one but offset by more powerful engine, visual difference, body kit, slightly longer, larger rear door.

 

Do what that info what you will.

[PatG]

This guy is the type that you could give a million differences between 2 pictures and he'll still not find anything.

 

This is literally a struggle to him

 

[JC Hammer]

I noticed the acceleration bar is higher on the V12. But the 0-60 time was listed the same on the web site, and that was one stat that usually wasn't bogus from that site.

 

But when driving it compared to the others I couldn't feel a difference.

 

 

OMG! Op is creating threads about performance based on the website stats

 

Stop the madness!

Edited December 19, 2015 by TheHammer

[Mike_Read]

Yes there are. no it's not.

 

 

 

Edited to add: should have noticed that this video had already been posted but leaving video here for emphasis!

Edited December 19, 2015 by Mike_Read

[drahnier]

I tested it and the V12 is about 10 seconds faster than the Schafter on a 50 second drive. In fact, they went overboard and made the V12 way faster than it should be.

I suspect that in a few weeks you will see nothing but armored V12 Schafters in freemode.

[waterclay]

This video will explain everything you need to know.

 

[Blasterman4EVER]

This guy is the type that you could give a million differences between 2 pictures and he'll still not find anything.

 

This is literally a struggle to him

 

All three are in my garage parked next to each other and I can't see any differences yet. I only looked at them for a few minutes. I want to say the new ones let you change the trim color and get carbon skirts. But I can't see anything besides that.

 

I'll check the top speed on some long hauls.

 

I still think that people saying the V12 could outrun somebody in a T20 (who can actually drive) is totally laughable.

 

This looks pretty solid:

 

 

 

Yes there are. no it's not.

 

 

 

Edited to add: should have noticed that this video had already been posted but leaving video here for emphasis!

 

Only concrete thing I've seen posted. Thanks.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Blasterman4EVER

[Nuclearsniper]

 

This guy is the type that you could give a million differences between 2 pictures and he'll still not find anything.

 

This is literally a struggle to him

 

All three are in my garage parked next to each other and I can't see any differences yet. I only looked at them for a few minutes. I want to say the new ones let you change the trim color and get carbon skirts. But I can't see anything besides that.

 

I'll check the top speed on some long hauls.

 

I still think that people saying the V12 could outrun somebody in a T20 (who can actually drive) is totally laughable.

 

This looks pretty solid:

 

 

 

Yes there are. no it's not.

 

 

Edited to add: should have noticed that this video had already been posted but leaving video here for emphasis!

 

Only concrete thing I've seen posted. Thanks.

I've outrun t20's in this and my banshee its not hard the v12 is massively superior to the regular and lwb

[RealGroovyMotion]

Last night I came second in the top speed challenge, I was only 1kph slower than my friend's T20 and I was not even on the highway yet

[Above Omnipotence]

No, The T20's top speed is slightly slower than the Zentorno, Osiris, and Turismo.

[Maxxi]

If you can't tell the differences in visuals, you're pretty blind. If you can't tell the performance and handling differences, you haven't driven the cars enough. Either way, you haven't done enough research and testing to prove anything.

 

It's got the body parts and customization options of a Schwartzer and even the handling's more Schwartzer than Schafter. It slides a bit more than the Schafter, which is more planted and turns a lot better.

 

This is mostly for the V12.

 

Pictures courtesy of BengeyBoy

 

This post pretty much sums up everything you need to know about the Schafter V12.

 

 

Nice ugotsmoked signature, by the way. Brings me memories of a giant dumbass who couldn't figure out his own brain.

[Blasterman4EVER]

Okay... finally noticed a difference while in the garage looking at the LWB. It's longer. I noticed its ass sits closer to the wall of the garage. It's maybe about a foot longer at the most. The difference is subtle, however.



Looking at above pictures...

And now I see the difference in the front bumper with the openings. and the fog lamps, and the height of the trunk, width of the car when looking at the trunk, and the bottom of the rear bumper.

These are all subtle differences to me. I was expecting very significant changes in the garage. It still feels like kind of a waste of money, at least for the LWB vs. the original... especially if other people are saying it doesn't seem faster.


I'm about to go drive around the V12. It looks shorter.

Admittedly, I was pretty tired when I bought the new two and fully upgraded them. I didn't have the energy to perform a highlights exercise.

But:

It's coming together, but I still feel like I got Schafted.

EDIT: The V12 doesn't seem shorter than the original. Edited December 19, 2015 by Blasterman4EVER

[Aqua97]

I had the normal Schafter, sold it and got the V12, that thing is a beast! More fast and better handling, and looks.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Aqua

[PatG]

OP has finally come to his senses. Thanks goodness.

 

I'd say this thread no longer serves its purpose anymore.

[seven50iL]

It's longer and it's a v12. Im not a Benz guy but correct me if im wrong is it based off the s600? And I guess we can assume the scafter is just a short wheel base s550. This car looks more like a w2221 than a w220.

 

I would love a w140 or a 7 series e38 though.

I have to agree with OP to some extent though. The Scafter v12 does not look long cause they messed up the front side windows. All LWB sedans in general have short front windows and extremely long windows in the rear. They should of make it a tad bit shorter for the front windows. The Cognosenti is the best limo in the game at the moment. (If you play with headsets, the road noise is extremely quiet)

[Blasterman4EVER]

I gave it enough time on the highways and even in the city.

The V12 is WAY FASTER.


http://youtu.be/Xezg3z5IE8I


Forgive me.

[Blasterman4EVER]

This is probably the best heist vehicle in the game now. Non-armored if you're good and don't need extra protection, armored if you need extra protection... but the armored version is a lot slower, right?

[PatG]

I had the normal Schafter, sold it and got the V12, that thing is a beast! More fast and better handling, and looks.

Never forget the sound.

This is probably the best heist vehicle in the game now. Non-armored if you're good and don't need extra protection, armored if you need extra protection... but the armored version is a lot slower, right?

Armored versions are typically slower than their non-armored versions. Same as how LWB versions are slower than the regular ones.

 

Not slower by a huge difference, but maybe 1 second or less.

Edited December 19, 2015 by PSgtaplayer1