GTA SA Special Vehicle Guide [2015]

[toomuchinvigilation]

On my current save file I got one food date, about five dancing dates and zero driving dates (I was reloading each time). Either it's semi-fixed for a save file or I'm having my usual bad luck.

 

EDIT: Thanks, I'll try it.

Edited April 27, 2016 by toomuchinvigilation

[OrionSR]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I've long suspected that the random numbers are not seeded properly but don't really have any proof of the matter. Maybe there's mention of the issue in the SilentPatch topic. As far as I can tell it should be random but stacked heavily in favor of driving dates. Random, but the odds aren't at all even. For each roll without the she drives flag, food gets 10 chances, dance gets 15, and driving gets 20. So we should be looking at percentages of something like 22% food, 33% dance, and 44% driving.

[Nostalgia]

Added: If you don't get the date you want then cancel it (-1% progress) by entering a gym or ammu-nation (etc) and try again.

Also if you cancel a date in this way you can date the girlfriend again immediately - and its possible to get 50%+ progress with a girlfriend very quickly because as long as the date is finished (like going to restaurant) you get positive points from that, but then going to the gym immediately after for the date to end. Works best with Denise earlier into the game, because her house, the restaurant and the gym are all so close together. Quite a few people are aware of this trick but not everyone I guess so thought would be worth mentioning.

Edited April 28, 2016 by Nostalgia

[rhans]

Ok, since I have no idea how to get any of the remaining unobtainable vehicles I decided to upload a video getting the Nebulas again, since my previous one is incomplete. Back then, when I did the video, I though only 2 were UC, but I was mistaken, this time I got all 3:

 

Ok, if you are luckier than me maybe all 3 Nebulas won`t have exploded, its not that uncommon, but I decided to go on and still do the video even if one of them exploded just to show it is still possible to get all 3 (I guess my luck was drained after using it too much of it with the RC Baron), making the whole process a lot easier than what is seen in this video. If one of them happens to explode though, the Red Nebula is a lot heavier than the other 2 and can push them with ease (if the Red Nebula is the one to explode however, you better give up, is way to heavy to be pushed). In this mission there are 10 Nebulas, other than the 3 obtain here, there is 1 Nebula that is a duplicate of one of those 3 UC (unique color) I obtain in this video and the other 6 are UC2 (unique color 2, which in most vehicles is not visible and the only way to know it even exists is by using tools).

Edited April 28, 2016 by rhans

[Lethal Vaccine]

Nice! I will watch it now. It was my goal to get all 3 at the same time when I do the 2nd Save File but I didn't want to use Info Icons like rtyuijhggff does since it takes too long to get lucky for Big Smoke to kill the remaining Russians, so I like doing the Satchel Charge Method with the Sprunk Vending Machine...Getting 1 at a time is too easy and getting 2 at a time is slightly harder but still easier, now getting 3? I will watch now. I only ever saw getting 2 or 9 of them. Never all 3 and just these mandatory 3...

 

EDIT: Woah, the Red Nebula is actually H/EC!!!! Man, to use Minigun to kill Big Smoke on the BF-400 must be dodgy on PS2, though. Those arrows when you aim at something? Doesn't happen on PS2, you might THINK you're shooting at the BF-400, but totally missing it...

Edited April 28, 2016 by MetalMilitia89

[rhans]

Yeah, is strange, even if you hit Big Smoke I think the BF-400 gets damaged, not him, it is really strange.

 

 

I have one question about the FI Patriots in Robbing Uncle Sam, when do they spawn and when do they lose the immunities? I know the gate to the warehouse opens when CJ enters the Mule after loading 6 boxes, is that also when they are spawned or are they actually spawned before that? I might have one idea for the FI Patriot but I would need to know exactly when those things happen.

Edited April 28, 2016 by rhans

[Fooking Rekt]

They spawn as soon as you enter the Mule (as seen in my video) and the proofings are removed pretty much instantly

[rhans]

But how do you know they are not actually spawned before CJ enters the Mule (the wareshouse is closed, so they can`t be seen being spawned)?

[Nick007J]

Yeah, is strange, even if you hit Big Smoke I think the BF-400 gets damaged, not him, it is really strange.

 

 

I have one question about the FI Patriots in Robbing Uncle Sam, when do they spawn and when do they lose the immunities? I know the gate to the warehouse opens when CJ enters the Mule after loading 6 boxes, is that also when they are spawned or are they actually spawned before that? I might have one idea for the FI Patriot but I would need to know exactly when those things happen.

They spawn when player enters Mule, along with line "Head to the lock up in Willowfield". They don't have immunities even for a single frame.

[Fooking Rekt]

The only "immunity" they keep is being Heavy and Locked

[Lethal Vaccine]

I have one question about the FI Patriots in Robbing Uncle Sam

 

Tbh, I doubt these will ever work. EVER...

 

I have hopes for the AP BF-400, but even that is a big stretch, but the AP Patriot is even a bigger stretch, though...

[rhans]

Oh damn, I don`t know exactly what a single frame is but I suposed it is very little (25 fps means a frame is = 1/25 second?). I found a way to stop the script for this mission like 1 or 2 seconds after entering the Mule, but damn, 1/25 seconds is too little.

 

Also, what happens if I hold ESC, do the frames go faster or slower?

Edited April 28, 2016 by rhans

[Fooking Rekt]

ESC opens the menu right? The frames are the same but you have a lower amount of FPS

[Nick007J]

Oh damn, I don`t know exactly what a single frame is but I suposed it is very little (25 fps means a frame is = 1/25 second?). I found a way to stop the script for this mission like 1 or 2 seconds after entering the Mule, but damn, 1/25 seconds is too little.

 

Also, what happens if I hold ESC, do the frames go faster or slower?

I think you misunderstood me (or I formulated it badly). I mean there is not a single frame during which Patriots are proofed. When Patriots become visible, they don't have proofs already. Duping can't solve this issue either, because even if there are two copies of the mission running, when second creates its Patriots, first one's Patriots will not be proofed.

 

As of FPS, total will be increased to about 50, however there still will be 25 gameplay frames, if I am not mistaken. There is interesting effect regarding pause buffering and pickups, but it is offtopic here.

[Fooking Rekt]

Regarding the Mutant Sentinel, what modding options will crash the game, and which ones won't?

[rhans]

Thanks Nick, I guess my plan had no hope after all. As for the FI Shamal I tried a bunch of stuff, like duping, and OMF0 while holding a phone call during the cutscene it has immunities and jump from the plane during the cutscene, but nothing worked.

 

About the UT Sentinel I think you can mod exhaust, wheels, spoilers (spoilers are not available on Loco Low, but if you create a UT Sentinel in a transfender instead you can choose spoilers, but not worth it as a UT from Loco Low is "more" unique), front bumper and rear bumper.

 

There are a total of 8 options of spoiler in Transfender, and Sentilnel can have 4 of those. When making a UT Sentinel in a Transfender you can choose one of the other 4 spoilers options if the car used supports it.

 

Since there still isn`t a video using Bug777`s method to obtain the FI Packer, FI Sultan and the EP/FP/CP BF-400, I decided to make one:

 

I got this BF-400 just for the sake of making a " more complete" video, even though I don`t plan on keeping it in my save. I would rather keep this BF-400 intead:

Using both methods allow to spare the info icon pick up, which who knows maybe one day could be useful on another vehicle (like the FI Tanker for example, even though it uses the hopital info icon and not the police station).

Edited April 29, 2016 by rhans

[OrionSR]

I'm reluctant to describe the FI Patriots as unobtainable or impossible since that'll probably make you try even harder. But I had an idea that might help frame the difficulty of the task. The challenge to keeping the immunities is to destroy the vehicles or stop the script after the vehicles have been created and before the army passengers are added. So try recording just that. My thought was to use a remote camera mod to view the spawn location as they are created and then slow the video down and check the spawn process frame by frame.

[rhans]

Thanks Orion,I guess I will upload my FI Patriot failed attempt then. Maybe someone will be able to see a way of improving it.

[Bnd]

Most of mods crash game, just need to test what crashes what not, wheels doesnt crash at all i belive.

[Fooking Rekt]

I should make a list of ALL vehicles in the game with what Lowrider modifications are compatible. Maybe that'll be useful for some other missions.

[Lethal Vaccine]

even though I don`t plan on keeping it in my save. I would rather keep this BF-400 intead

 

What exact Save my I ask? It seems like you're skipping around to many Missions, all over the Map. Some in Los Santos, some in San Fierro, etc, etc. What exact Save are you working on? Sometimes I see Hotknifes and Phoenixes driving around in your Videos, too, obviously with Sports Car Cheat enabled, etc, etc. You never talked about any big, legit Save, so I was wondering what you were working on and if and when you were gonna make a big Save with 60-77 Special Vehicles in the SAME Save with ZERO Cheats, Minimum Deaths, 0 Busted, Minimum Mission Failures, etc, etc, etc...

 

It seems you just like obtaining random Vehicles with no intention on ever going for a big Save or in any of the other GTA's, either...

 

Btw, the back of the Packer can be raised. If it's raised, the Sultan and BF-400 don't fall off the back so easily since the ramp won't be on a slant and just straight across instead...

Edited April 29, 2016 by MetalMilitia89

[Fooking Rekt]

It seems you just like obtaining random Vehicles with no intention on ever going for a big Save or in any of the other GTA's, either...

I.m.o it seems more like he is making videos on stuff that hasn't been recorded yet and a big save without recordibg

[Bnd]

Each car have other "Crash/Not Crash" situation, for example, Savanna Roof crashes on Sentinel, but doesn't on Greenwood

[Lethal Vaccine]

As always, learning more and more...I watched some Videos of fnxrak taking Vehicles to LV from LS early and I just re-watched jam8tone's Maximizing Storage Space Video that is over 1 hour long and also saw him take the Barracks from LS to LV using a couple different Undrowning Zones. My question is:

 

Do you think the AP Packer can be taken to LV Impound right after obtaining it or do you think it's way too big and way too slow to get it to LV?

 

I also don't get why jam8tone insists on Vehicles being deleted from the Impounds if they aren't a certain type. For instance, he makes note that a Packer isn't good to store in the LS/SF Impounds, yet, I was able to do that already and keep it there from Just Business to Verdant Meadows when I bought the Airstrip to store it in the Hanger...I also wish I knew the DIFFERENCES from Xbox to PS2 or PC to PS2, etc. The way he does the Impounds even on Xbox as that is the Platform he is recording on for that Maximizing Storage Space Video is different to what I had to do on PS2, yet again...If I ever do an even bigger Save than what I have now, I think I seriously will at LEAST use the LV Impound to store 3 more Vehicles and probably the LS Impound as well and maybe one Vehicle or so in the SF Impound, etc, etc. Having an EP/FP Enforcer and EP/FP Barracks might be neat to have and that is what jam8tone has stored in the LV Impound with the Leviathan, Hydra, and Rustler in the SF Impound and the Raindance, Police Maverick, and News Chopper in the LS Impound...

 

Leviathan is probably the least needed since there is a DP Leviathan and imo, a DP Leviathan is better than an EP/FP Leviathan. Yeah, I know, AP Leviathan but that is the OM0 Method Vehicle which I'd never obtain in a big Save. Those Methods to obtain Vehicles would be off limits if I did another big Save. So if I were to put Aircraft in the Impounds, I'd go for the DP Leviathan instead of making an EP/FP Leviathan or obtaining the AP Leviathan. Like the Police Maverick. I know there is an AP Police Maverick but for the big Save, I'd get one early for the Impound and make it EP/FP...

Edited April 29, 2016 by MetalMilitia89

[Fooking Rekt]

Landstalker: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Bravura: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts, Roof.

Buffalo: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Tanker: /

Perennial: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts.

Dumper: /

Firetruck: /

Trashmaster: /

Stretch: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Manana: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts, Roof.

Infernus: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Voodoo: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Pony: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Mule: /

Cheetah: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts.

Ambulance: /

Leviathan: /

Moonbeam: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Roof.

Esperanto: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Taxi: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Washington: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Bobcat: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts.

Mr. Whoopee: /

BF Injection: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Hunter: /

Premier: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Roof.

Enforcer: /

Securicar: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Wheels.

Banshee: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Predator: /

Bus: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Rhino: /

Barracks OL: /

Hotknife: Wheels.

 

 

Vehicles i currently tested with Savanna modifications. / means i can't enter Transfender with it, the modifications listed don't crash the game.

 

If somebody can provide me with a carcols.dat file or whatever it is which allows me to mod ALL vehicles, even Planes and Boats, that'd be great for testing.

Edited April 29, 2016 by Fooking Rekt

[LieutenantCB17]

Do you think the AP Packer can be taken to LV Impound right after obtaining it or do you think it's way too big and way too slow to get it to LV?

 

I tried that when i made the video of it, Unfortunately its not possible. The Packer is too slow to climb the big sand bank under the water.

[Bnd]

 

 

 

Ambulance: /

Banshee: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Barracks OL: /

BF Injection: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Bobcat: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts.

Bravura: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts, Roof.

Buffalo: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Bus: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Cheetah: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts.

Dumper: /

Enforcer: /

Esperanto: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Firetruck: /

Hotknife: Wheels.

Hunter: /

Infernus: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Landstalker: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Leviathan: /

Manana: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts, Roof.

Moonbeam: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Roof.

Mr. Whoopee: /

Mule: /

Perennial: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts.

Pony: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Predator: /

Premier: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Roof.

Rhino: /

Securicar: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Wheels.

Stretch: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Tanker: /

Taxi: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Trashmaster: /

Voodoo: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Washington: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

 

http://www.alphabetize.org/

Use this for more clean look of the list.

[Fooking Rekt]

 

 

 

 

Ambulance: /

Banshee: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Barracks OL: /

BF Injection: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Bobcat: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts.

Bravura: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts, Roof.

Buffalo: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Bus: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Cheetah: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts.

Dumper: /

Enforcer: /

Esperanto: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Firetruck: /

Hotknife: Wheels.

Hunter: /

Infernus: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Landstalker: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Leviathan: /

Manana: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts, Roof.

Moonbeam: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Roof.

Mr. Whoopee: /

Mule: /

Perennial: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Sideskirts.

Pony: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Predator: /

Premier: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels, Roof.

Rhino: /

Securicar: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Wheels.

Stretch: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Tanker: /

Taxi: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Trashmaster: /

Voodoo: Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

Washington: Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Wheels.

 

 

 

 

http://www.alphabetize.org/

Use this for more clean look of the list.

Thanks, i will do that as soon as the list is finished.

[Lethal Vaccine]

 

I tried that when i made the video of it, Unfortunately its not possible. The Packer is too slow to climb the big sand bank under the water.

 

Thanks for the information. I was wondering since I never tried it, so it's a FACT it MUST be kept in the LS Impound until The Country is unlocked to store it in Doherty if it's even possible, OR wait until Verdant Meadows is unlocked like I did, to store it in the Hanger. Plus, storing it in SF isn't good as it takes up too much space and there is now MORE THAN 16 Vehicles in which are obtainable in SF. So using the space to store the Packer would be a bad idea. It's best to just keep it in LS until Verdant Meadows is unlocked then...

[rhans]

My saves don`t use cheats, and the only video that I uploaded that used sport cars cheats was the FI UC Maverick, but it had "(not recommended)" in the title , because of the side effects its not something worth doing, thats why I didn`t care at all that the video had cheats and even said myself that is just better getting wasted than doing that. Besides that none other video I uploaded had sports cars cheat.

 

I already did many saves, I just don`t talk too much about them, mainly because up until now it my best save was basically a very similar save to the one fnxrak has, so I didn`t think it was worth mentioning (I didn`t care about some of the EP/FP he did, like BMX, and also skipped some of the UC2 vehicles too, because they are my least favorite type of vehicle) . The videos where I obtained vehicles in LV or in SF are not my main saves, those saves were only there for the purpose of making the video. The video where I recorded getting the 3 UC Nebulas and the FI Packer + FI Sultan however, was done in my main save, since I know I can invest a good ammount of effort in this one, with very low chance of something being discovered and making it outdated. Also, I avoid any unneeded wasted/busted added to the stats, and I don`t care as much about mission attempts but I try to keep it low as well.

 

Also, regarding the FI Patriot, here is what I tried, I though it was worth a try, unfortunately it didn`t work, but maybe with a bit of tweaking might work eventually? Can I use "Replay" button to start the second instance? Since it seems by the time CJ exits the Mule and the second instance starts the Patriots already lost the proofing. I would need to find a way of making them spawn and stop the script even faster than shown in the video:

 

Also, I tried duping the mission from the start, similar to what I did in the notorious video of the UC FI Maverick without suicide (not recommended) thinking that 2 Patriots would be generated and only 1 would lose the proofings, but it doesn`t work, you simply can`t put the boxes inside of the crate if you dupe this mission, making you unable to complete it:

 

Edited April 29, 2016 by rhans