NTAuthority Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Hi, I just bought a new copy of GTA V as my previous 4 got banned (one in August, three(!) banned earlier today - note that I never cheated or even played GTA:O on 2 of the 4 accounts), and an hour after activating (I haven't even played the game, or logged in to the account except to activate, exiting the game when it first entered the main menu), and an hour later I received an e-mail message saying I got a 'SC Admin Ban Report' against my account, and now I have a 'NotAllowed/Privilege' ban (that is, permanent, for 'violating the Terms of Service' and being unable to play even singleplayer, while I never even used this account at all)? I don't think the 'Terms of Service' contain a 'you're not allowed to play if you're NTAuthority' clause, or even a clause allowing them to ban by hardware ID (as I used a different ISP, e-mail address and provider, Steam account and the lot)...? Rockstar/Take-Two, you've really sunk to the deepest low a game publisher can have, revoking a game purchased for real money only an hour after activation without even having 'cheated' (or having run FiveM itself, in case you people wonder)... ... discuss. Edited December 15, 2015 by NTAuthority Moving Idiot, PhillBellic, M.K.N. and 40 others 43 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSFT Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 At first I was going to chastise you thinking you bought a non legit version of the game... But then I seen you the guy thats only trying to better GTAV with that sick mod... Looks as tho they have it against you for that... dunno why when you do have the support of the community. Hope it works out... Sweet Bellic and PkUnzipper 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068260903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DentureDynamite Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) I understand that R*/Take Two are apparently trying to "protect their turf" so-to-speak, but all I can figure is that it must be embarrassing for them to have ideas out there admittedly better than their own...only way to explain it in the end. The way they're going about "protecting their turf" and the attitude itself that comes across is probably going to hurt them more than help them. Benevolence generates more respect than animosity. Edited December 15, 2015 by DentureDynamite YG., lolleroz and Sweet Bellic 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068261046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Bellic Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 R* is worse than sh*ttysoft. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068261082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppafewpills Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Doubtful you got banned for no reason at all.... Just the fact that you tried to circumvent the system by buying more and more copies tells me you knew what was going on. Trust me, I've been banned by rockstar and then by Sony. I did deserve my bans... I was being a tough guy with scripts and pretending to be an awesome modder. 007JamesBond, YG., Lamborghini1335 and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068261112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quant Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Why am I not surprised? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068261678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 This is so sad I can't even comment anything appropriate. What EA was in 2008... BS_BlackScout and PkUnzipper 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068262033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvic Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 This should explain it. J4M3Z, EvilDog77, YG. and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068262265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rclone1 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Buying new copies and getting banned? so youre not using the same account right? sounds like they just IP banned you. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068262534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K0ol-G-R4P Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Doubtful you got banned for no reason at all.... Just the fact that you tried to circumvent the system by buying more and more copies tells me you knew what was going on. Trust me, I've been banned by rockstar and then by Sony. I did deserve my bans... I was being a tough guy with scripts and pretending to be an awesome modder. What system is he trying to circumvent by legally purchasing multiple copies of a game? WTF Edited December 16, 2015 by K0ol-G-R4P ClareXoBearrx3, PkUnzipper, Mince and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068262873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-Bobski Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I don't think the 'Terms of Service' contain a 'you're not allowed to play if you're NTAuthority' clause, or even a clause allowing them to ban by hardware ID (as I used a different ISP, e-mail address and provider, Steam account and the lot)...? A hardware ID is based on... hardware. You can change ISP, IP adress, e-mail or even use a VPN but if you install the game on the same PC you used in earlier installs R* would still know it's you. Also, R* can ban whoever they want for whatever made up reason. Not much you can do about that. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068263056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Arrow Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 They banned you because probably it has something to do with FiveM. Not trying to offend you but Im just being straight to the point. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068263117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sveittjpong Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 They banned you because probably it has something to do with FiveM. Not trying to offend you but Im just being straight to the point. Thank you, Cpt. Obvious! The point is that THIS IS NOT OK! Just the fact that you tried to circumvent the system by buying more and more copies tells me you knew what was going on. f*cking WHAT?! How the hell is it OK for Rockstar to let someone buy a product and then immediately ban them from using it without them even using it?! Microsoft Word, ClareXoBearrx3, Shimmer and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068263137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DentureDynamite Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) ^^ Not exactly the point of the thread (I know), but if NTAuthority bought the game via a credit card, he can at least get 100% of his money back; all it takes is submitting proof of the claim (i.e. a screenshot of the ban) and a receipt of the game purchase to them. Been there, done that with shyster companies... They'll deal with the R* stuff on his behalf. Edited December 16, 2015 by DentureDynamite Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068263335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Arrow Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 They banned you because probably it has something to do with FiveM. Not trying to offend you but Im just being straight to the point. Thank you, Cpt. Obvious! The point is that THIS IS NOT OK! I get what you said but no matter how legal you buy the game multiple times,the company will still think you as a threat to their asset.Hence,you will get insta ban. PkUnzipper 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068263374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sveittjpong Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 They banned you because probably it has something to do with FiveM. Not trying to offend you but Im just being straight to the point. Thank you, Cpt. Obvious! The point is that THIS IS NOT OK! I get what you said but no matter how legal you buy the game multiple times,the company will still think you as a threat to their asset.Hence,you will get insta ban. And that is NOT OK. From the OP: I don't think the 'Terms of Service' contain a 'you're not allowed to play if you're NTAuthority' clause, or even a clause allowing them to ban by hardware ID (as I used a different ISP, e-mail address and provider, Steam account and the lot)...? J4M3Z and Sweet Bellic 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068263491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_MK_ Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Just wow,a hardware ID ban ? how is this even legal since you haven't cheated ? that's a clear message from take2dicks and lowstar that they don't want you anywhere near their game,this is pure nazisim. Edited December 16, 2015 by _MK_ Sweet Bellic 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068263526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiretitan Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) This is bullsh*t. They don't want you to even play their damn game. This is not at all acceptable. But unfortunately, we can do sh*t, even though its illegal. I'm really sorry NT. You still have our support. Edited December 16, 2015 by raburs Sweet Bellic, ClareXoBearrx3, GAMIR_GTA and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068263755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal3lf Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I know your intentions are good with FiveM, but I'm happy if it's true that Rockstar have implemented hardware bans. I haven't been able to properly play GTA V for a few months now with literally 1-3 hackers in each session, and I hope this will deter some of them from thinking about using mods and cheats in GTA: O. abnorm, PkUnzipper and BS_BlackScout 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068263952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiretitan Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I know your intentions are good with FiveM, but I'm happy if it's true that Rockstar have implemented hardware bans. I haven't been able to properly play GTA V for a few months now with literally 1-3 hackers in each session, and I hope this will deter some of them from thinking about using mods and cheats in GTA: O. He never used FiveM or cheated. There is no plausible explanation to a hardware ban/permanent ban. K0ol-G-R4P 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068263983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafour Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 ^^ Not exactly the point of the thread (I know), but if NTAuthority bought the game via a credit card, he can at least get 100% of his money back; all it takes is submitting proof of the claim (i.e. a screenshot of the ban) and a receipt of the game purchase to them. Been there, done that with shyster companies... They'll deal with the R* stuff on his behalf. It's not about the money... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068264124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Not sure exactly where but I read about the current DRM used in GTA V that R* installs some software that collects the hardware configuration and each time you verify your entitlement the software checks the license with your hardware info. If it doesn't match, you wont be able to play to avoid the same copy being installed on different computers. Its listed under the T&C of the agreement, and so I guess, they simply banned you completely from playing the game. No point in buying new copies since they already have the required hardware info to verify your actual emtitlement each time you install the copy. Try installing the new copy with a new RGSC account and on a new computer. UltraGizmo64 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068264147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal3lf Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 He never used FiveM or cheated. There is no plausible explanation to a hardware ban/permanent ban. I never said he cheated, and yes there is a plausible explanation. I just bought a new copy of GTA V as my previous 4 got banned Over the past few updates Rockstar could have been slowly testing hardware checks on accounts/IP's that have been banned multiple times. If "a different ISP, e-mail address and provider, Steam account and the lot" is true then what else is there to explain? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068264243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaringFiddle Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 There is no "hardware id" on a PC - not in the same sense as there is on a console. There was that short lived CPU ID thing, but that is gone for many years. The way M$ does it is to make a hash of all of your hardware PCI ID and the like. Change out enough components and its a new PC. I doubt R* is doing anything like that. There is something else going on here. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068264498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
samfit Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 There is no "hardware id" on a PC - not in the same sense as there is on a console. There was that short lived CPU ID thing, but that is gone for many years. The way M$ does it is to make a hash of all of your hardware PCI ID and the like. Change out enough components and its a new PC. I doubt R* is doing anything like that. There is something else going on here. Yeah, it´s weird as f*ck. It seems apparent that you´re not telling us the whole story, OP. B00Minyourface 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068264555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Additional Notes: Software installations required authentication software that recognizes certain hardware attributes for entitlement, digital rights management, system, and other support purposes. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068264618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvic Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 @ NT Authority the post I made wasn't to make fun,but to show the mentality of RS. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068264629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaringFiddle Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Additional Notes: Software installations required authentication software that recognizes certain hardware attributes for entitlement, digital rights management, system, and other support purposes. ok - so Steam does do a hardware hash similar to M$. So - if he purchases game non-steam (you would think he would have at least tried to) then *bam* no hardware hash... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068264641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anda7x Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Well,that sucks....but i think is possible take you money back,since you not played the game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068264655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaringFiddle Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 cant you get a steam refund within so many days of purchase I thought? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/832985-bought-a-new-game-copy-instantly-banned/#findComment-1068264664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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