"You can go into passive...."

[fw3]

today there are more and more in lobby, real time events that most players like to participate in and with the rise in jet griefers and military weapons that makes taking part in these games, impossible.

I dunno, it seems to me that dodging aggressive players during the Free Roam events is part of the fun of the challenge.

 

When some player has hit 9 targets and I've only hit 5, it's kind of nice when that player gets blown up, allowing me the opportunity to hit a few more and make it competitive.

Of course, if I get blown up I throw my controller at the wall and swear like a headless chicken.

 

After all, it's GTA and not Mario Party.

 

[darkgreenmeme]

If we were not meant to kill other players, we wouldn't be able to.

Oh and my daily objective today is 'kill players'

Just because you dont want to shoot randoms doesn't mean thats how everyone should play, its a sandbox game

 

The kill players objective applies to any game mode, and intelligent players, or at least the ones that realize that the score in this game is RP and $, will use deathmatches to achieve that objective quickly and at a profit, rather than killing kittens in freemode for very little in RP, bad sports points, and expensive ammo bills.

 

I'm not saying what you do is wrong and not allowed, I just think it is idiotic.

Edited December 10, 2015 by darkgreenmeme

[Fraizer]

Hating the players and the game because not everyone in the lobby lines up to suck your cock and don't play the way you want to play. Just find a new game title to play. Jeez.

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

Hating the players and the game because not everyone in the lobby lines up to suck your cock and don't play the way you want to play. Just find a new game title to play. Jeez.

Couldnt agree more, some scrubs like the idea of making the game to a game its not because they are weak noobs.

Hope R* doesnt change anything.

Edited December 10, 2015 by Urustay Gordov

[bicenz]

Nobody's asking for changing anything, we're talking about adding something, and it's a little different. But your agressive way of speaking makes you look so badass that i'm pretty sure everyone will get so scared and stop asking it

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

Man, I am done arguing about this. Those who are against friendly lobbies are stubborn and selfish, plain and simple. And all this arguing isn't going to make a difference, we all know R* is never going to introduce them, at least not in GTA V.

 

 

Im not a big fan of the idea of friendly lobbies and would prefer simple changes to what we have.. But due to how f*ckin retarded the majority of the player base is and how they behave. And how completely oblivious R* is when it comes to cause and effect of certain game mechanics and weapons/vehicles/blips. etc.

 

Then i really don't care if they do add a friendly lobby for players to actually play in. Which would give those friendly players a chance to actually find like minded players who enjoy the game in a less hostile way in a very simple and easy way.

 

People who just keep saying NO. And keep saying go play invite only or stay in passive just can't see the bigger picture.

 

Seriously... who gives a f*ck besides assholes?

 

If R* can split the player base up via extremely lame hard locking auto aim..to auto aim light. Then they sure as hell can make a non hostile lobby for players to play in.

 

 

 

I don't think you can see the bigger picture. Who gives a sh*t about you guys that run around mowing everyone down in your cars or shooting them. For me I just want to enjoy the open world and have zero interest in PvP.

 

Yes I get how GTA was designed, but a lot of us have no interest in the constant killing, who cares. What do people even get out of it .. I don't get it .. you kill someone, oh whoopie, now what, we move on to the next ..

 

I love the fact we have invite only sessions that we can remove the idiots that do enjoy this .. all the power to you guys, have fun and leave us others alone, period.

 

Save your rebuttal, I couldn't care less what you have to say.

 

 

 

LMAO what rebuttal? Maybe you should actually READ what the f*ck i posted next time...

 

 

Seriously...its like your are telling me off for saying "Sure add friendly lobbies" and then going on about how there should be 'friendly lobbies". Obviously you didn't read jack sh*t

 

Hating the players and the game because not everyone in the lobby lines up to suck your cock and don't play the way you want to play. Just find a new game title to play. Jeez.

Couldnt agree more, some scrubs like the idea of making the game to a game its not because they are weak noobs.

 

 

 

Wait ....what game that its not are YOU talking about? ..lol

 

 

You're like the poster boy of why it should be added. Keep talking

Edited December 10, 2015 by HulioG

[bicenz]

Also, talking about "a game is not" if you look at r* newswire, you'll see that highlighted stuff is about players that make something beatiful come out of this game. YouTube & Snapmatic community, car-related crews and anyone actually doing something that makes sense in LS. If you look at trending pics on Snapmatic, apart from Snapmatic crews photographers, you'll always see a lot of "roleplay" snaps: biker crews, offroad meets, and so on. Not mentioning all video remakes you can find on YT - GTA Series Videos anyone?

 

So no, this game is not only for griefers, they are just one part of the big mass of players. What i have mentioned above can be considered "the elite" and obviously you must have almost decent skills to do that kind of stuff in an artistic way. But everyone can play that way just to have fun, and a lot of players would like to do it without affecting anyone. But no, the fat ass kids wannabe-warriors are against it: not only they only shoot shoot shoot like retarded, they also want that everyone sucks their cock and play their way. You want to have fun in a friendly lobby? No, you have to stay here and learn to play my way, otherwise you have to change game.

 

I hope you do realise that your pretentious way to claim yourselves as "the true gta gamers" just makes you look like pricks. If you just get out of you insurgents and hydras and take a look around you'll figure out

 

PS. fun fact: most of snapmatic and roleplay oriented players are also good at shooting. And i'm pretty sure a lot of them can kick your fat asses, actually some of them already do this and there's some crews whose purpose is just kick some griefer ass. But i guess you already know it as long as you weak noobs don't want friendly lobbies because you would lose your easy kills and have to face real fighters

Edited December 10, 2015 by bicenz

[nik_west]

Look guys, I know some of those freeroam-warriors are annoying, but to all that want a friendly lobby system so bad:
Could you please describe to me how this friendly lobby system would work?
And, even more importantly: How could it NOT be abused by said i-came-i-saw-i-killed-warriors??

It's like this "Not being able to use my weapons in passive mode is stupid, I need something to defend myself from those annoying cops!" argument. You do realize that having weapons in passive could be abused as f*ck, right?! Maybe you're just thinking about cops, other's are thinking about waiting until you're next to a vehicle to blow the vehicle up, so the explosion kills you. Even if he doesn't get a kill out of that and the kill feed just says "Player69 died", it wouldn't stop some people to grief the sh*t out of others.

Your friendly lobby system would need to be something, where people aren't walking around as a ghost, because it's anti-social. Where all players still have their weapons, because people hate to not being able to use them against cops. But where players still can't kill each other, even if they try?! Good luck with that, bro...

The only thing that comes to my mind: Have a lobby just like we have now, but you can't go into passive (it's greyed out all the time), and should the kill feed ever recognize a kill like "Player666 killed Player69", the lobby kicks Player666 instantly. Why allow one kill, you might ask. Because in my eyes, you can't bring in enough restrictions to stop people from killing each other, but still not hinder the friendly guys to do everything else they want. So don't even try to think of any complex restrictions, just allow one kill to filter out the psychos. Doesn't sound like such a bad idea, right?! Well... now you have to think like a warrior:

There is a lobby, where people are not killing each other and just walking around like fish in a barrel, waiting to be f*cked by me? Dude, this is even better than those trap $10000000000 10000000000 RP deathmatches. I'll join those all day, kill, get kicked, join again, kill, get kicked, join again... [Okay, let's bring in the restriction that you can't join a friendly lobby for 24 hours IRL, should you've been kicked once.] Dude, when I log into GTA Online, the first thing I'll do is to join pussy mode to kill one of those cry baby bitches. And I'll do the same every day I log into GTA Online... [You think there are not enough warriors for you to notice and annoy the sh*t out of you? Hell, even I would join once a day to get my free kill and I'm not even a K/D whore. This would be just too tempting not to do it So I could see some crying for a ban for life, should you've been kicked from a friendly lobby. Look, first thing: R* is not the company to ban people for life like that, even if it would be just from a mode and not the whole game. But secondly: Mistakes do happen! Should you mess around with your friends and accidently kill one of them, you can't join your beloved mode ever again.]

tl;dr: Please describe a 'proper' friendly lobby system, if you would be so kind?

Edited December 10, 2015 by nik_west

[bicenz]

Nothing more easy Let's begin saying that if R* ever adds a similar kind of lobby they wouldn't just put in some restrictions. As they always do when they add something, they have to make it look cool and new and shiny in order to make people want so bad at least to try it Said so, there's a lot of things that can be done just using in a different way some tools that are already featured in the game: the main issue you exposed, the freeroam warriors, can be solved just applying to freeroam the same mechanism that now is used in heists and missions. Not only you can't directly kill your teammates but you can't even use "third parties". In fact, if i blow a car in a mission and my teammate is near it, he won't die. They should just improve this thing avoiding the possibility of vehicular kills that actually are the only way you can kill some human player in missions or heists. There's different way to do work on collisions to make this work, let's remember this kind of lobby would be completely different from the regular one so putting some changes of physics in it should be possible. For example, if hit by a car driven by another player you simply slide and don't fall to the ground or you fall but don't lose health etc.

 

I agree that kickin players or even worst thinking of some bans would not be a good solution. And as i already said a friendly lobby should not just have "restrictions", very few would like to join it if they are made this way. It's more possible that R* can put some exclusives in it: for example, something encouraging meets as a "violet area" (already used in freemode events) where you get rp just entering in it with a muscle car, or a classic sport car etc. I think of it as an evolution of freemode events but obviously excluding PvP activities and exploring the huge amount of things that can be done with this game. Some may find it boring, and it's legit: but it's just a different way to play the game. And no-one forces freeroam warriors to come in these mutilated lobbies where they can't show how badass they are. They can still join regular sessione and discover that, without "cry-babies" to kill, they just are not so badass as they thought. And they became cry-babies too, with the only difference that they are not even able to interact in a friendly way to another human player. Lonely and skilless idiots not only IRL on their crouch but also in-game, as i said several times i perfectly understand why some people doesn't want this kind of stuff in GTAO

Edited December 10, 2015 by bicenz

[XxSoLiDSnAkEOxX]

My crew hunts griefers to protect the innocent. Really what they need to do in this game is remove cops or make them kill me in one shot, armored kuruma, assault shotgun, marksman rifle, explosives do no harm on individual players and jets then this game would be paradise. Also I have no desire to shoot cops in this game in freeroam waste of ammo I just let them kill me.

Edited December 10, 2015 by Agent Mac

[fish61324]

I see this every day in here. When people talk about getting hassled, griefed, chased and ganged on by other players and crews the go-to response is "you can always go into passive" or "solo session bro".

 

Well, kinda sick of that. Im the game today there are more and more in lobby, real time events that most players like to participate in and with the rise in jet griefers and military weapons that makes taking part in these games, impossible.

 

If I am in a lobby and I have to go into passive because of an idiot in a jet or some freeroam rambo wants to up his e-penis by shooting me repeatedly then I can't take part in those events, I can't even protect myself from cops because passive equals no guns.

 

And switching lobbies doesn't really work either because these guys are now everywhere. And why should I have to constantly move between lobbies because of the freeroam rambos and jet kiddies?

 

How about if a player is taking nothing to do with the fight then you leave them out of the fight? I have a rank 580 player last night tell me that "freeroam is a deatmatch bro". Let me make this clear. He shot me, I put my gun away, he shot me again. I walked away, he shot me again. I messaged him telling him I wasn't interested in fighting, he shot me and messaged that before I had to go passive.

 

The level of stupidity in that was awesome.

 

Yes, you can go into passive but it restricts the players ability to interact with the gameworld. And it is forced onto them by people who, it has to be said, cannot cut it in real combat games.

 

So no, we can't always go into passive.

Sounds like you don't like GTA V online. It's part of the game and how this game was made. Don't like it? Play something else. Can't please everybody and it doesn't do any good to cry like a baby on some forum that 0.05% of GTA V online players actually use.

[STEEZYR]

How would a friendly lobby work? how would you stop someone ghost riding a car into you or crashing a plane youre sharing on purpose?

[bicenz]

How would a friendly lobby work? how would you stop someone ghost riding a car into you or crashing a plane youre sharing on purpose?

 

Did you read my post up here? And i don't even work at Rockstar. If a randumb player like me can figure out a way i guess R* employees can do it 1000 times better. It's simple, the games already recognizes a kill by another player from a normal death, in fact if you ride into another player or crashes a plane you are killing the player. So every single occasion when the game says "X killed Y" become "Y dies" or simply Y doesn't die. The idiot X crashes the plane and dies and the poor Y just jump off to the ground as he does in Director Mode with immortality. There's a lot of ways to stop trolls from trolling.

Edited December 10, 2015 by bicenz

[STEEZYR]

 

How would a friendly lobby work? how would you stop someone ghost riding a car into you or crashing a plane youre sharing on purpose?

 

Did you read my post up here? And i don't even work at Rockstar. If a randumb player like me can figure out a way i guess R* employees can do it 1000 times better. It's simple, the games already recognizes a kill by another player from a normal death, in fact if you ride into another player or crashes a plane you are killing the player. So every single occasion when the game says "X killed Y" become "Y dies" or simply Y doesn't die. The idiot X crashes the plane and dies and the poor Y just jump off to the ground as he does in Director Mode with immortality. There's a lot of ways to stop trolls from trolling.

 

Jumping out of a car and letting it slam into a player detatches the connection of the car from the player so it doesnt show up as a pvp death, same as blowing up explosive tanks next to players, there will always be ways around it

[bicenz]

They can just introduce some system to delay it, the connection doesn't detatches immediately but after few seconds. Just making an example. GTAO probably leads people to think that trolls always find a way to troll but it's just not true. Trolls are usually stupid. If they always find a way is because GTAO is designed for them. Let the time pass, let some other AAA game be released, and maybe our dream will come true. A game more oriented for normal brains where trolls and various retarded find it hard to have some fun

[ClareXoBearrx3R9]

LOL @ people acting like they are a badass all because they are decent in a video game.

 

I agree with the OP, go to Battlefield, or if think you're so badass, play with people at your own level. Or, stick to deathmatches.

[STEEZYR]

LOL @ people acting like they are a badass all because they are decent in a video game.

 

I agree with the OP, go to Battlefield, or if think you're so badass, play with people at your own level. Or, stick to deathmatches.

Or just keep killing in free mode, as its just as much a part of the game as anything else

[ClareXoBearrx3R9]

 

LOL @ people acting like they are a badass all because they are decent in a video game.

 

I agree with the OP, go to Battlefield, or if think you're so badass, play with people at your own level. Or, stick to deathmatches.

Or just keep killing in free mode, as its just as much a part of the game as anything else

 

Yeah, but if your doing it to prove you're better than anyone else, you aren't proving sh*t. Deathmatches were specifically designed for killing, far more than free mode was. Which would be obvious seeing as when the game came out, killing people would eventually make you a bad sport. Funny, people never became bad sports for killing in a deathmatch. I wonder why.

Edited December 10, 2015 by ClareXoBearrx3R9

[nik_west]

the main issue you exposed, the freeroam warriors, can be solved just applying to freeroam the same mechanism that now is used in heists and missions. Not only you can't directly kill your teammates but you can't even use "third parties". In fact, if i blow a car in a mission and my teammate is near it, he won't die. They should just improve this thing avoiding the possibility of vehicular kills that actually are the only way you can kill some human player in missions or heists. There's different way to do work on collisions to make this work, let's remember this kind of lobby would be completely different from the regular one so putting some changes of physics in it should be possible. For example, if hit by a car driven by another player you simply slide and don't fall to the ground or you fall but don't lose health etc.

I don't think they would add those 'funky' physics, because R* is trying to maintain some kind of a "realism factor" in the game. But if they were: Maybe people couldn't kill you, but they can still annoy the sh*t out of you by constantly ramming you. Wouldn't that destroy the whole thought of a friendly lobby in the first place? And if these physics are exclusive to the mode, even more people would join to ram you just to check the "new" physics out.

 

If you fall and don't lose any health, that's still preventing you from your game and people would use it to grief others.

 

i don't even work at Rockstar. If a randumb player like me can figure out a way i guess R* employees can do it 1000 times better.

I don't know you, but from the way you're writing you don't seem dumb to me. I just think that a game like GTA, a game designed to start out as a small criminal to become this kingpin mastermind, where weapons are a huge part of the game, it's not that easy to limit your action against other players and still not creating massive restrictions.

[Nuclearsniper]

 

 

 

 

 

I think we should be grateful that passive mode even exists to be honest. It's not a perfect solution but it does work well, on current gen that is.

 

Passive is great for the people who wants to get away from the action. The problem is that the griefers are abusing the passive to avoid dying. Rockstar should put a longer cool down on passive. Maybe a 5-10 minutes cooldown instead of the current 1 minute

 

No, they should completely eradicate passive mode from the game, and add friendly lobbies instead. It makes more sense that way.

 

I kind of like the fact that i can do my own things in a 30 players lobby and if I see interesting action going on i can just choose to go out of passive and go for it. If they do two separate lobby like you are saying, it means more loading time for the same situation and its not guaranteed that there will be cool action going on in another lobby

 

It wouldn't be that much of a hassle really. Just go back to SP and change the friendly filter. Don't know why you would change from 'I wanna shoot some players up' to 'No more killing for me' that frequently. But then again, it wouldn't be a hassle to change the filter from SP and find a session right after that.

 

And I dont know what is so bad about the passive system. Rockstar had made the dlc free so they dont have to have different lobby type.That way, its easier for them to give the best connection possible to everyone. (keyword here Possible before someone whines about how bad the server are)

 

What server gta:o has no servers,

[bicenz]

 

the main issue you exposed, the freeroam warriors, can be solved just applying to freeroam the same mechanism that now is used in heists and missions. Not only you can't directly kill your teammates but you can't even use "third parties". In fact, if i blow a car in a mission and my teammate is near it, he won't die. They should just improve this thing avoiding the possibility of vehicular kills that actually are the only way you can kill some human player in missions or heists. There's different way to do work on collisions to make this work, let's remember this kind of lobby would be completely different from the regular one so putting some changes of physics in it should be possible. For example, if hit by a car driven by another player you simply slide and don't fall to the ground or you fall but don't lose health etc.

I don't think they would add those 'funky' physics, because R* is trying to maintain some kind of a "realism factor" in the game. But if they were: Maybe people couldn't kill you, but they can still annoy the sh*t out of you by constantly ramming you. Wouldn't that destroy the whole thought of a friendly lobby in the first place? And if these physics are exclusive to the mode, even more people would join to ram you just to check the "new" physics out.

 

If you fall and don't lose any health, that's still preventing you from your game and people would use it to grief others.

 

i don't even work at Rockstar. If a randumb player like me can figure out a way i guess R* employees can do it 1000 times better.

I don't know you, but from the way you're writing you don't seem dumb to me. I just think that a game like GTA, a game designed to start out as a small criminal to become this kingpin mastermind, where weapons are a huge part of the game, it's not that easy to limit your action against other players and still not creating massive restrictions.

 

 

You are probably right, it would be hard to completely avoid trolls and annoying behaviours by other players... and also some weird physics would not look so good in a realistic game as GTA V. I didn't mean i'm dumb in the proper sense of the word but i'm sure not a game developer so i hope that my ideas that are not perfect could be done better by R* And i still think that encouraging friendly activities and removing the whole KD thing could make the game more enjoyable for those who are not interested in constant fighting and make trolls and freeroam warriors less capable to ruin their experience... but as you said the whole game-concept is about getting more and more rich and well-armored so maybe it would be a too radical change. Who knows? Maybe with a future big DLC as the famous SP one, with a brand new multiplayer section... ok maybe now i'm dreaming too much sure af that, as we already said, NOW the gta community is still not "ready" for a thing like that

Edited December 11, 2015 by bicenz

[zoso80]

That's your prerogative.

 

I'd suggest finding a group of like minded players and doing free roam events in a friends or invite only session? Free roam is a giant death match, the moment the free roam events started the trolling of participants started. It's all about friends only or invite sessions with friends I'm telling you.

 

The game is fun that way.

Yeah, well, I guess I'm beat here. The game is no longer fun, I spent a long time playing it and trying to play with other people but I guess I'm the wrong type of guy to be playing gta. I was looking to play with people not spend all night getting hunted down and having to change lobbies. So that's it for me I guess.

[XxSoLiDSnAkEOxX]

Not if all your friends are in a freeroam session with you.

[Endjinn]

The problem with friend/invite only sessions is that you will forever be playing with the same group of people over and over again.

 

This may be fine for some, but how else are you going to meet other like minded players?

 

Making friends with Heist/Mission members is precarious at best. (there are some very strange people online lol).

 

The only realistic solution is to have a freemode session that removes Player-to-Player targeting. Add a 2 person 'kick' option to combat trolls in vehicles and you're in business. Easy.

Edited December 12, 2015 by Aliashu

[Broblab]

alright. so..

 

ive read this entire forum thread.

 

here is what ive gathered from it.

 

the jet griefers are either getting crapped out of badsport. or the jet isnt cool anymore and everybody now owns one.

 

probably a mixed bag of both.

[Mattoropael]

 

 

LOL @ people acting like they are a badass all because they are decent in a video game.

 

I agree with the OP, go to Battlefield, or if think you're so badass, play with people at your own level. Or, stick to deathmatches.

Or just keep killing in free mode, as its just as much a part of the game as anything else

 

Yeah, but if your doing it to prove you're better than anyone else, you aren't proving sh*t. Deathmatches were specifically designed for killing, far more than free mode was. Which would be obvious seeing as when the game came out, killing people would eventually make you a bad sport. Funny, people never became bad sports for killing in a deathmatch. I wonder why.

 

 

Comparatively speaking, deathmatches reward the skilled, and free roam PvP rewards the prepared.

 

It doesn't matter if you have lightning reflex if you're caught cruising in Burton on a Faggio without passive mode by a dude in a Kuruma.

[Arrows to Athens]

This level 55 (possibly a hardcore player who made a new character) dressed all in gear came towards me to kill me. I hid behind the wall and took me out with a rocket. Then I kill him back with a mini gun, but he also manages to kill me at the same time. I then get invited by a hate message from the guy that goes ''Pussy motherf*cker why you use minigun?''. Yep, he said this even though he used a rocket to cheaply take me out and was coming after me. He then want on to taunt me about my high rank, assuming I've got a modded account and how I'm not legit. He also kept talking about how I'm sh*t for a high rank. Like, everything is about skills and being the best warrior in this game for these try-hards, and when someone doesn't play their way or isn't as rambo is a noob pussy.

 

Even crew members can be dicks. One of the NODO crew members gunned me down point black for no reason at all. I tried to kill him back, but he insisted on going into passive mode and waiting for the right time to exit and take me out. I just don't get people sometimes tbh.

 

Passive mode causes more problems than actually solving them.

Edited December 12, 2015 by Fearx--

[bicenz]

If someone waste his time sending you a message, best answer is "lol". He probably will get mad and eat his own hands

[Candy_Licker]

Well, I don't have too many problems with griefers, I don't know why, maybe since I'm in good sports or I'm just good at avoiding them. On the other hand, I'm in passive mode anyway, on PC you have to, since chances are very high that some modder will blow the whole session up sooner or later. I love passive mode, and I don't find it too restricting unless you are really into those freemode events, and here, only the ones involving planes proved troublesome.

[Arrows to Athens]

If someone waste his time sending you a message, best answer is "lol". He probably will get mad and eat his own hands

I try so hard to ignore them and go on my way, but I have this need to get them through their worries and calm them down from whatever mishap.