"You can go into passive...."

[Endjinn]

 

OK 1 last time, I'm not posting this again.....

 

GTA IV was a straight peer to peer game (google it if you dont understand)

 

in a P2P game nothing runs on R* servers, the host loads a set-up and other players connect to his console.

 

So in a P2P game R* can write thousands of different lobby set - ups because they don't have to provide server space for each one

 

The problem with p2p gaming, and why they are almost extinct in online gaming, is that R* has no control over what happens on the host computer so modding and cheating are fairly simple. Also console RAM severely limits the number of players who can connect at 1 time.

 

GTAO is NOT a P2P game. The game (mostly) runs on R* servers. Each separate Lobby set up must be given space on the server to run. The more combinations the more space.

 

R* could make the decision to add a friendly option and take out aiming options but I don't see that happening this far down the line....

 

 

Or just have bigger servers, if what you were saying was accurate.

 

I'm sure a multi-billion dollar company could afford some extra space.

 

As far as I am aware 'TheHammer' , GTAO uses a P2P Mesh system so I'm not sure where you're getting your information.

 

There seems to be an overwhelmingly negative attitude to a very simple request from players.

Edited December 9, 2015 by Aliashu

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

But Rockstar still added a non-contact option into races, so now we can race in public lobbies without ramming and without restricting ourselves to private sessions and only racing with crew members. I don't see why friendly lobbies would be different. If you don't need friendly lobbies, that's fine, but many others would love them to be in the game, and you don't speak for Rockstar.

The non contact races consists of ghost cars, the same with the passive players. So its the non contact version of freeroam (passive) and because of that we dont need frendly lobbies.

[Furry_Monkey]

Just out of curiosity, if I were in a friendly lobby and I rammed my car into another player, what would happen if...

 

a) They were stood in the street

b) They were in their car

 

or if I rammed into their car when they weren't in it?

 

Or should everyone be as ghosts, as if it were a non-friendly lobby but everyone was actually in passive?

[.Vooodu.]

Man, I am done arguing about this. Those who are against friendly lobbies are stubborn and selfish, plain and simple. And all this arguing isn't going to make a difference, we all know R* is never going to introduce them, at least not in GTA V.

 

 

Im not a big fan of the idea of friendly lobbies and would prefer simple changes to what we have.. But due to how f*ckin retarded the majority of the player base is and how they behave. And how completely oblivious R* is when it comes to cause and effect of certain game mechanics and weapons/vehicles/blips. etc.

 

Then i really don't care if they do add a friendly lobby for players to actually play in. Which would give those friendly players a chance to actually find like minded players who enjoy the game in a less hostile way in a very simple and easy way.

 

People who just keep saying NO. And keep saying go play invite only or stay in passive just can't see the bigger picture.

 

Seriously... who gives a f*ck besides assholes?

 

If R* can split the player base up via extremely lame hard locking auto aim..to auto aim light. Then they sure as hell can make a non hostile lobby for players to play in.

Edited December 9, 2015 by HulioG

[Absolut]

This all would be solved, if bad sport would be given more easily. You kill ten players in an hour, bad sport. Deathmatch fanboys could hang by themselves, and other people could have a game that they enjoy.

 

I can't understand why people get so negative when someone doesn't want to live in constant fear of other players, or would rather peacefully interact with them. I have had some great experiences with friendly players, and have for an example stormed military base with a huge posse. It would be difficult when in passive. Huge firefights with cops, all that. I really don't get the idea of everyone being an enemy.

[.Vooodu.]

This all would be solved, if bad sport would be given more easily. You kill ten players in an hour, bad sport. Deathmatch fanboys could hang by themselves, and other people could have a game that they enjoy.

 

 

*facepalm.

 

If you don't think 10 steps ahead you are just wasting your time replying with sh*t like that..

 

So if i kill 10 players i go to bad sport? Really?

 

So if 10 players all attack me... and i defend myself. I get bad sport... ? Seriously..... No.

 

 

Bad sport should not even exist anyways... Its R* fault for allowing us to hold so much ammo.. explosives, easy access to military vehicles and always on blips. In most cases R* either needs to totally change everything they f*cked up... fix blips OR give players and actual non hostile lobby.

[Sky_Light12]

 

This all would be solved, if bad sport would be given more easily. You kill ten players in an hour, bad sport. Deathmatch fanboys could hang by themselves, and other people could have a game that they enjoy.

 

 

*facepalm.

 

If you don't think 10 steps ahead you are just wasting your time replying with sh*t like that..

 

So if i kill 10 players i go to bad sport? Really?

 

So if 10 players all attack me... and i defend myself. I get bad sport... ? Seriously..... No.

 

 

Bad sport should not even exist anyways... Its R* fault for allowing us to hold so much ammo.. explosives, easy access to military vehicles and always on blips. In most cases R* either needs to totally change everything they f*cked up... fix blips OR give players and actual non hostile lobby.

 

oh now you've changed back to blips , i taught last time was assisted aim in free aim session

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

This all would be solved, if bad sport would be given more easily. You kill ten players in an hour, bad sport. Deathmatch fanboys could hang by themselves, and other people could have a game that they enjoy.

 

 

*facepalm.

 

If you don't think 10 steps ahead you are just wasting your time replying with sh*t like that..

 

So if i kill 10 players i go to bad sport? Really?

 

So if 10 players all attack me... and i defend myself. I get bad sport... ? Seriously..... No.

 

 

Bad sport should not even exist anyways... Its R* fault for allowing us to hold so much ammo.. explosives, easy access to military vehicles and always on blips. In most cases R* either needs to totally change everything they f*cked up... fix blips OR give players and actual non hostile lobby.

 

oh now you've changed back to blips , i taught last time was assisted aim in free aim session

 

 

 

I didn't change anything... Its different a topic..

 

Dafuk?

[Sky_Light12]

 

 

 

This all would be solved, if bad sport would be given more easily. You kill ten players in an hour, bad sport. Deathmatch fanboys could hang by themselves, and other people could have a game that they enjoy.

 

 

*facepalm.

 

If you don't think 10 steps ahead you are just wasting your time replying with sh*t like that..

 

So if i kill 10 players i go to bad sport? Really?

 

So if 10 players all attack me... and i defend myself. I get bad sport... ? Seriously..... No.

 

 

Bad sport should not even exist anyways... Its R* fault for allowing us to hold so much ammo.. explosives, easy access to military vehicles and always on blips. In most cases R* either needs to totally change everything they f*cked up... fix blips OR give players and actual non hostile lobby.

 

oh now you've changed back to blips , i taught last time was assisted aim in free aim session

 

I didn't change anything... Its different a topic..

Dafuk?

just reminding you

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

 

 

This all would be solved, if bad sport would be given more easily. You kill ten players in an hour, bad sport. Deathmatch fanboys could hang by themselves, and other people could have a game that they enjoy.

 

 

*facepalm.

 

If you don't think 10 steps ahead you are just wasting your time replying with sh*t like that..

 

So if i kill 10 players i go to bad sport? Really?

 

So if 10 players all attack me... and i defend myself. I get bad sport... ? Seriously..... No.

 

 

Bad sport should not even exist anyways... Its R* fault for allowing us to hold so much ammo.. explosives, easy access to military vehicles and always on blips. In most cases R* either needs to totally change everything they f*cked up... fix blips OR give players and actual non hostile lobby.

 

oh now you've changed back to blips , i taught last time was assisted aim in free aim session

 

I didn't change anything... Its different a topic..

Dafuk?

just reminding you

 

 

 

Dafuk?

[Sky_Light12]

Dafuk?

i know you said that again

[Furry_Monkey]

 

 

Bliss.

[.Vooodu.]

 

Dafuk?

i know you said that again

 

 

 

That means Dafuk?|

 

As in my opinion on Auto aim in free aim has not changed... Because that it is a different subject.

 

 

And myself and you are in a different topic. Which is about free roam hostiles... and passive... and dealing with it.

 

So dafuk means.. WTF are you talking about. Why would I need you to remind of different opinions on different subjects? Because my opinions on both those different subjects has not changed.

 

I like ketchup on my fries.. Not so much on my burgers. Gonna remind me about that too next post on something that has nothing to do with fries or burgers.? Just incase you think i don't remember?

 

Dafuk?

 

 

 

Bliss.

 

 

Yes i know... When you get put in your place.. You stay there like a good monkey.

Edited December 9, 2015 by HulioG

[Sky_Light12]

 

 

Dafuk?

i know you said that again

 

 

 

That means Dafuk?|

 

As in my opinion on Auto aim in free aim has not changed... Because that it is a different subject.

 

 

And myself and you are in a different topic. Which is about free roam hostiles... and passive... and dealing with it.

 

So dafuk means.. WTF are you talking about. Why would I need you to remind of different opinions on different subjects? Because my opinions on both those different subjects has not changed.

 

I like ketchup on my fries.. Not so much on my burgers. Gonna remind about that to next time on something that has nothing to do with fries or burgers.? Just incase you think i don't remember?

 

Dafuk?

i was hoping you would say " what " than dafuk

oh , so french fries is your fav ?

[Endjinn]

I've nothing left to say except:

 

"You Think You Own The Roads Dontcha? You Peddling Pricks" - Trevor.

 

I think that may have some relevence here.

[bicenz]

 

But Rockstar still added a non-contact option into races, so now we can race in public lobbies without ramming and without restricting ourselves to private sessions and only racing with crew members. I don't see why friendly lobbies would be different. If you don't need friendly lobbies, that's fine, but many others would love them to be in the game, and you don't speak for Rockstar.

The non contact races consists of ghost cars, the same with the passive players. So its the non contact version of freeroam (passive) and because of that we dont need frendly lobbies.

That's not exactly the same thing, i think it was just an example of how r* can actually create new options even if some players cry "we don't need it" i think there's no need to remind you that some guys saying "we" on a forum doesn't mean you are actually speaking for all the playerbase. You guys don't need it, we got it. What you guys don't seem to get, even if told multiple times, it's the fact that passive mode is not a solution for those who need it. Keeping on beating this dead horse can only lead people to tell you "ok man whatever" like the nurses do when they have to deal with retarded. If it's what you want, you are really achieving it.

Edited December 9, 2015 by bicenz

[rapidwiz]

 

I live in passive mode, you just get used to it, it's a pain I agree, but it is what it is. Play with friends who are trustworthy, i generally don't bother with the free roamevents a) because they boring b) the payout sucks and c) because of idiots shooting you, but if you like it and get killed who cares.

 

Even when I am in an invite sessions, my habit is so bad, I go into passive with only me in it. When I need something, then I come out .. if you don't care about your K/D, just avoid the heavy populated areas.

 

The other thing I used to do if someone killed me when I was AFK and just happen to see them, I immediately put a bounty on them so they can't go into passive or so I can hunt them. Putting a bounty on them has two effects, they running scurrying to their apartment or leave the session, it's quite funny to watch or someone else kills them if they stay, both are pretty funny to watch. Normally I only put $1K bounty, it's enough to annoy them but not enough to get excited about. Also every time they come out of a mission the msg reminds them they have a bounty which is annoying to say the least.

Dude, you should know better than to put a Bounty on someone unless they are some low level scrub..

Someone puts a Bounty on me and I am gonna do 1 of 2 things, either go get my Insurgent and refill my sticky bombs or I'll go get a Jet and use the Red skull to hide my Insurgent/Jet icon and spend the next 45mins laying waste to a lobby. You never put a Bounty on someone that might even be remotely decent in a Jet, you're just asking for trouble..

 

 

 

I couldn't less what you do after you get the bounty, all I know is you now have to deal with it. You kill me for no reason or I am AFK, you going to get a $1K bounty so I can annoy you. If you enjoy bounties great, knock yourself out and go waste time with it.

 

What I have seen happen is people leave the session or go hide in their apartments, to me that is victory. I have even had the pleasure of Lester call me during a heist to say that the problem has been taken care of, so I don't even need to stick around to get the pleasure of someone taking you out. Most times someone will claim the bounty. What is even more enjoyment to me is that you go waste a day's game time waiting for the $1K bounty to be claimed by yourself. All 3 of these results are a pleasure in my book.

 

My point is go fight people who want to fight and leave the rest of us alone to do our thing.

[rapidwiz]

 

Man, I am done arguing about this. Those who are against friendly lobbies are stubborn and selfish, plain and simple. And all this arguing isn't going to make a difference, we all know R* is never going to introduce them, at least not in GTA V.

 

 

Im not a big fan of the idea of friendly lobbies and would prefer simple changes to what we have.. But due to how f*ckin retarded the majority of the player base is and how they behave. And how completely oblivious R* is when it comes to cause and effect of certain game mechanics and weapons/vehicles/blips. etc.

 

Then i really don't care if they do add a friendly lobby for players to actually play in. Which would give those friendly players a chance to actually find like minded players who enjoy the game in a less hostile way in a very simple and easy way.

 

People who just keep saying NO. And keep saying go play invite only or stay in passive just can't see the bigger picture.

 

Seriously... who gives a f*ck besides assholes?

 

If R* can split the player base up via extremely lame hard locking auto aim..to auto aim light. Then they sure as hell can make a non hostile lobby for players to play in.

 

 

 

I don't think you can see the bigger picture. Who gives a sh*t about you guys that run around mowing everyone down in your cars or shooting them. For me I just want to enjoy the open world and have zero interest in PvP.

 

Yes I get how GTA was designed, but a lot of us have no interest in the constant killing, who cares. What do people even get out of it .. I don't get it .. you kill someone, oh whoopie, now what, we move on to the next ..

 

I love the fact we have invite only sessions that we can remove the idiots that do enjoy this .. all the power to you guys, have fun and leave us others alone, period.

 

Save your rebuttal, I couldn't care less what you have to say.

Edited December 9, 2015 by rapidwiz

[Retroview1955]

bitch and moan please

i also rather have friendly and non friendly lobbies but hey.....

What's the point of that? Someone will turn a friendly lobby into a non friendly lobby very quickly.

Ever played a contact mission? That's a friendly game mode, but some a-hole will get mad at me because I won't ride with them and run me over or an idiot in an Insurgent will push my car into the water.

Once I respawn or recover my car, I cost us the mission so no one gets paid and then leave.

I suggest you consider just playing in a lobby with just your friends and crew members. Depending on how big your crew is, they turn on you as well.

Edited December 9, 2015 by Retroview1955

[blingdiablo]

It's pretty obvious that those that seek out other players in freeroam in order to kill them are doing so because it gives them a rush. They're looking to feel better about themselves by "proving" they ARE better by beating other people at a game.

 

They get a special kick out of killing people and not being killed in return. Because that "proves" to themselves they are better, and they can even have it quantified with a k/d ratio they can later stroke themselves to. So it produces tactics like reverse Zentornos + stickies, "jet griefers" and tanks pre-nerf.

 

Basically, this game is tailored to the mentality of an angsty, pissy, impotently mad-at-the-world 14 year old male that wishes they could be as bad ass as they imagine they are.

 

GTA is really interesting because of the type of personality it attracts... think about it, it's psychotic behavior exemplified, and best of all, no real-life consequences! Kill all the innocents you want, no repercussions. Be a bully, be an asshole! LOL at the passive cry babies that don't fight back or run away from you, be PROUD of how BADASS YOU ARE.

 

Yeah... with people like that, there's no reasoning, no logic, no possible argument against their behavior that will make any difference.

 

I mean, sh*t, the Bad Sport lobbies were created for a reason, specifically assholes like that.

 

But really if you KNOW you're going to encounter people like that in this game, f*cking do what you can to either avoid it or stoop to their level, play their game, and beat them at it. That's the only thing they understand or respect, is getting their ass whooped. But be careful, because if you fight and lose, it only makes them bolder.

 

Frankly, I say f*ck those people they're not worth the time or effort, and I stick to invite/friend only lobbies. I ain't sweatin' it.

 

Besides, freeroam fights are a waste of money. I ain't got time for that.

 

tl;dr - haters gonna hate

[am30]

^ Armchair psych right here folks.

Edited December 9, 2015 by am30

[blingdiablo]

^ Armchair psych right here folks.

 

Or, y'know, just an educated observation.

[Lay]

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Edited December 9, 2015 by Lay

[am30]

 

^ Armchair psych right here folks.

 

Or, y'know, just an educated observation.

 

 

Or, y'know, a bullsh*tter.

[HKM87]

So what's wrong about splitting the player base even more??

[Udrift]

By splitting, do you mean grouping all the people that only do invite only, and currently aren't a part of freemode?

 

Do you think you are going to notice that 1 million out of the 5 million online players are gone?

 

I think it would make more sense to have one type of aiming lobby, and people who want free-aim can easily join a crew, I hear those lobbies are usually pretty empty.... It might work out better for them.

Again, by splitting, do you mean actually bringing all the people in invite only into a social setting?

[Big_Show]

Hey OP Passive works just fine for me, if you're not interested in fighting people then you don't need your weapons so what's your problem? Passive mode doesn't restrict anything apart from the weapon wheel and certain phone functions, big deal.

 

As another alternative to Passive Mode, I keep a heist active so I can accept Lester's invite and jump straight to my apartment if I'm stuck somewhere with someone annoying me.

 

I rather R* just leave it the way it is and focus on developing new content.

[Udrift]

New content, especially contact missions would be nice. I would take 100 new contact missions over friendly lobbies, although I don't think friendly lobbies would take more than a day to make.

 

People do still play contact missions. There are a lot of other things that have fizzled out. It seems like they will probably make more things that fizzle out, and come out with some new shoes. That would be game changing.

[bicenz]

> Complains about people telling him to go passive

> Still everyone tells him that "passive mode just works fine"

 

[Arachne]

I'm still waiting for cockstar to realise that having passive lobbies is an better option than having one of the cheapest ways to break the action and get cheap kills.

Edited December 10, 2015 by Arachne