Friendly and non-friendly lobbies are a must

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

Why can't you go passive when getting owned...too much pride?

It's not about getting owned, video game warrior.

Ok. Now answer the question.

 

Your question is pointless because it isn't about being owned. It is about adding more diversity to the game with the use of friendly and non-friendly lobbies. If you want to mindlessly kill, then you can go and play in non-friendly lobbies, which is why it's called NON-friendly lobbies. If you want to cruise around and have fun without being killed, then go play in friendly lobbies.

 

You'd rather have a temporary invincibility ghost mode in lobbies where friendly fire is on by default, rather than have separate lobbies dedicated to being passive? You'd rather have a few ghosts running around here and there in Los Santos?

Edited November 24, 2015 by Fearx--

[bicenz]

The point that most people don't seem to get is that the real pleasure of a friendly lobby would not be the fact of being safe. We all manage to stay safe, if we want to play peacefully, just avoiding other players. Or using passive mode that doesn't make sense cause there's no fun in cruising around like a ghost while everyone else is shooting each other. The real pleasure, the real meaning of a friendly lobby would be the INTERACTING with other players, the fact that as long as you can't kill each other you MUST do something else. And there's a lot of things that you can do around the map, you simply just don't do it cause the choice by now is fighting or cruising around alone/with your friends. Ok, it also happens that you meet a friendly random but it's maybe 1% well in the friendly lobby it would be 100% cause in that kind of lobby killing each other is just not possible.

 

Not that i expected something different but trying to drive the thread in the same old childish questions as "you scared huh?", "you don't like being owned huh?" just shows why an awesome sandbox multiplayer has became just some sort of nonsense version of COD. Because most people doesn't even let you enjoy the funny battlefield-like gameplay, it's not war and strategy but "try to get some easy kills and brag about your KD ratio". Killing each other is funny but is not the only thing to do and it definitely get boring if you don't have any choice that having to deal with an huge amount of people that plays the game this way.

 

Most people don't really want to properly fight in this game, they just want to find some easy target and then brag about on the internet. that's why a friendly lobby option would make me truly appreciate the war-like one.

Edited November 24, 2015 by bicenz

[shadowoperative]

If passive you don't appear as a ghost to yourself. Why do you care if other players are shooting each other? Do your own thing.

 

You are just trying to control other players freedom.

 

#entitlement

[bicenz]

The problem is not the appearence of a ghost lol the problem is that you actually are a ghost, as long as you're totally alone. And maybe i didn't explain myself so well but i never go passive: i usually am on the other side, i am fighting with other players or making my own business. But i do this because since november 2013, the very first times i played online on PS3, i understood that you can play this way or otherwise you can try do something that is not fun at all and actually doesn't make sense at all. I think there is a HUGE amount of players that would like to play friendly but as long as they are not blind or stupid they understood that it's nearly impossible unless you are with your crewmates/friends.

 

Giving them the OPTION to play in a friendly lobby doesn't control anyone freedom, those who want to fight can still choose a regular one and fight. This option would actually give the friendly players the freedom that now is only an abstract thing, the only freedom that would definitely get to an end is the freedom to brag about a nonsense KD ratio obtained by shooting to people that don't want to shoot. If R* ever introduces this option personally i probably never use it: too busy having fun hearing kids cry cause they ar not able anymore to get a single kill

Edited November 24, 2015 by bicenz

[Quarthon]

If passive you don't appear as a ghost to yourself. Why do you care if other players are shooting each other? Do your own thing.

 

You are just trying to control other players freedom.

 

#entitlement

 

1. I hate when I'm in passive and a few assholes come around the corner with 10 cop cars chasing them. Then the cops bump into me and I now have a wanted level.

 

2. Im sitting in my car in passive and some dick gets in my car with a wanted level, which gives me a wanted level.

 

3. Do a heist or get disconnected and come back out of passive mode and not know it. I'm going about my business thinking Im still in passive, then some douche nozzle kills me.

 

Many more reasons I could list but Im at work and gotta get back at it. But I gotta say you contradict yourself in your post Shadow. You're telling people to do their own thing, but thats not always possible in a rowdy PvP lobby. All people are asking for is a lobby where they can just chill and not worry about shenanigans, and you are telling them they shouldnt be able to have it. So in turn its YOU who is trying to control other players freedom.

[shadowoperative]

Too much pride to go passive.

 

SMH

[Arrows to Athens]

If passive you don't appear as a ghost to yourself. Why do you care if other players are shooting each other? Do your own thing.

 

You are just trying to control other players freedom.

 

#entitlement

Wait, isn't restraining someone from playing in friendly lobbies and restricting them to use passive mode a form of taking away people's freedom? Hypocrite much?

[shadowoperative]

How does going passive restrict you?

[Arrows to Athens]

How does going passive restrict you?

You're telling us to use passive mode, whilst restraining us to play in friendly lobbies. That's restricting and taking away people's freedom. And I like how you completely ignore everything that we say, and instantly go back to your nonsensical passive mode solution. We've already established why friendly lobbies would be more effective than passive mode, and why passive mode actually poses more of a problem than a solution, but you insist on ignoring us and going back to your same point again.

Edited November 24, 2015 by Fearx--

[Quarthon]

 

How does going passive restrict you?

You're telling us to use passive mode, whilst restraining us to play in friendly lobbies. That's restricting and taking away people's freedom. And I like how you completely ignore everything that we say, and instantly go back to your nonsensical passive mode solution. We've already established why friendly lobbies would be more effective than passive mode, but you insist on ignoring us and going back to your same point again.

 

Like I said earlier, not one person has a legitimate argument as to why we shouldnt have friendly lobbies. They lost the debate.

[shadowoperative]

You want friendly lobbies. I don't care.

 

It splits the player base.

Edited November 24, 2015 by shadowoperative

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

How does going passive restrict you?

You're telling us to use passive mode, whilst restraining us to play in friendly lobbies. That's restricting and taking away people's freedom. And I like how you completely ignore everything that we say, and instantly go back to your nonsensical passive mode solution. We've already established why friendly lobbies would be more effective than passive mode, but you insist on ignoring us and going back to your same point again.

 

Like I said earlier, not one person has a legitimate argument as to why we shouldnt have friendly lobbies. They lost the debate.

 

The incessant ''Too much pride to go passive mode because you're being owned?'' is already a clear indication that he has nothing else valuable to say.

[Quarthon]

You want friendly lobbies. I don't care.

 

It splits the player base.

If it splits me from players like you I definitely support friendly lobbies.

[Arrows to Athens]

You want friendly lobbies. I don't care.

 

It splits the player base.

By the look of your previous posts, it does seem like you do. In fact, it appears as if it emotionally affects you, as you fear that you won't be able to increase your K/D as much because more people will play in friendly lobbies? I don't know to be honest.

[bicenz]

How does going passive restrict you?

 

OMG are you serious? You can't use weapons when you are in passive. There is a lot of potential co-op activities that could be done but are not even possible and you know why? Because the average GTAO player is a subtle scrub that prefers going in and out from passive mode or pretend to act friendly and kill you while you're not supposed to fight. In fact you can't hurt other players in missions and heists cause it's clear how they would end if they were not made this way.

 

When i do fights most people run away or go passive as long as they get killed 2-3 times. That's no fun at all. It's not about pride, it's about making a decision if you want to be friendly or not. So f*cking tired of subtle scrubs that increase their KD this way and then brag about on the internet as they're Rambo. Splitting lobbies would end, or at least decrease, this annoying sh*t. Period.

[Sock Dry]

I totally agree, imagine all the cool things a group of 30 people could do in the game if everyone wasn't so afraid of getting shot in the face/inclined to shoot everyone in the face. Impromptu meet at the top of chiliad, 20+ cars going of the edge simultaneously. 20+ jets flying in formation then everyone bailing out to land on the maze bank with a mass suicide pact at the end. It'd put a lot of life back into the game IMO.

[shadowoperative]

 

You want friendly lobbies. I don't care.

 

It splits the player base.

If it splits me from players like you I definitely support friendly lobbies.

Good deal cupcake. I am home now and going to play. Have fun in your rose garden.

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

You want friendly lobbies. I don't care.

 

It splits the player base.

If it splits me from players like you I definitely support friendly lobbies.

Good deal cupcake. I am home now and going to play. Have fun in your rose garden.

 

Feel tough when you kill virtual players in a game huh?

[DubzyNZ]

The people that disagree with this idea are the same people that jet grief and send you hate for going into passive.

This is a great idea OP, I would love to be able to play this game without retards...

[bicenz]

 

 

 

You want friendly lobbies. I don't care.

 

It splits the player base.

If it splits me from players like you I definitely support friendly lobbies.

Good deal cupcake. I am home now and going to play. Have fun in your rose garden.

 

Feel tough when you kill virtual players in a game huh?

 

 

Fix this: feel though hitting virtual easy targets in a game That's the only problem they all have. Splitting a f*cking dozens millions player base when a lobby can be filled with only 30 is a non-f*king-issue. They won't feel so though anymore with a real mothaf*king war in GTAO. They would see their precious KD ratio quickly turn in a 0.25 and cry That's why they don't want friendly lobby, as long as it clearly would not affect their freedom as we explained several times

Edited November 24, 2015 by bicenz

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

 

 

You want friendly lobbies. I don't care.

 

It splits the player base.

If it splits me from players like you I definitely support friendly lobbies.

Good deal cupcake. I am home now and going to play. Have fun in your rose garden.

 

Feel tough when you kill virtual players in a game huh?

 

 

Fix this: feel though hitting virtual easy targets in a game That's the only problem they all have. Splitting a f*cking dozens millions player base when a lobby can be filled with only 30 is a non-f*king-issue. They won't feel so though anymore witha real mothaf*king war in GTAO. They would see their precious KD ratio quickly turn in a 0.25 and cry That's why they don't want friendly lobby, as long as it clearly affect their freedom as we explained several times

 

Yeah, they say it splits the player base, but ignore the 3 different types of aim settings and the bad sport system that already splits the player base. Hmmm I wonder why...?

[DentureDynamite]

Why can't you go passive when getting owned...too much pride?

 

^^ No pride detected in that statement; nope; not at all... lol Oh, the irony!

 

Hate to burst your bubble, but many players have better things to do in-game than be annoyed by players like yourself.

Edited November 24, 2015 by DentureDynamite

[El-Gaddafii]

the people that don't agree with this idea are probably the same people that ride around in their kuruma or insurgent all day wearing a bulletproof helmet playing in auto-aim, the type that go passive the moment u blow up their kuruma and go collect it immediately cause their too scared to travel in anything else the same type of person that will then come on social media, internet forums like this one etc. to boast their K/D and how 'dey got mad skillzz' lol

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

You want friendly lobbies. I don't care.

 

It splits the player base.

If it splits me from players like you I definitely support friendly lobbies.

Good deal cupcake. I am home now and going to play. Have fun in your rose garden.

 

Does taking your butthurt feelings to other threads make you feel better, warrior?

[DubzyNZ]

the people that don't agree with this idea are probably the same people that ride around in their kuruma or insurgent all day wearing a bulletproof helmet playing in auto-aim, the type that go passive the moment u blow up their kuruma and go collect it immediately cause their too scared to travel in anything else the same type of person that will then come on social media, internet forums like this one etc. to boast their K/D and how 'dey got mad skillzz' lol

I agree, it sounds like that guy that boasts about his 10kd.... I don't understand it, no one actually cares lol.

k/d is not something that shows skill anyway, skill is being able to tackle any job/heist flawlessly all the time, not griefing a level 5 that doesn't know how to use a gun to pad your k/d.

[El-Gaddafii]

 

the people that don't agree with this idea are probably the same people that ride around in their kuruma or insurgent all day wearing a bulletproof helmet playing in auto-aim, the type that go passive the moment u blow up their kuruma and go collect it immediately cause their too scared to travel in anything else the same type of person that will then come on social media, internet forums like this one etc. to boast their K/D and how 'dey got mad skillzz' lol

 

I agree, it sounds like that guy that boasts about his 10kd.... I don't understand it, no one actually cares lol.

k/d is not something that shows skill anyway, skill is being able to tackle any job/heist flawlessly all the time, not griefing a level 5 that doesn't know how to use a gun to pad your k/d.

exactly! this is GTA its never been about the K/D its about the $$$ ... whens the last time you bought a T20 with k/d points ? lol exactly ..there really is no point having a k/d stat in GTA

[blusunone]

I agree with you op. Back in gta 4 days, that was exactly how it was set up; each lobby either had friendly fire on or off; there was no switching around, no "oh sh*t the person i was just griefing is shooting back at me, time to enable pussy mode and follow them around annoying them until they let their guard down again". It really doesnt make sense to want to mix pacifist players in with griefers and lunatics either.

 

But oh well. It isn't likely to change anytime soon, no matter how many people complain about it.

[TreFacTor]

I agree with you op. Back in gta 4 days, that was exactly how it was set up; each lobby either had friendly fire on or off; there was no switching around, no "oh sh*t the person i was just griefing is shooting back at me, time to enable pussy mode and follow them around annoying them until they let their guard down again". It really doesnt make sense to want to mix pacifist players in with griefers and lunatics either.

 

But oh well. It isn't likely to change anytime soon, no matter how many people complain about it.

But This isn't Gta4 or RDR. Its a different game. Passive mode works for not killing anyone. Its the Devs way of saying koombaya. Edited November 25, 2015 by TreFacTor

[bloatedsack]

Too much pride to go passive.

 

Incorrect. I spend 99% of the time in passive because I simply don't like to deal with having to watch my back constantly for someone with an inferiority complex to come along and prove himself, or better yet "troll" by simply killing over and over when I have zero interest.

 

On the other hand, I don't enjoy being a phantom:

I don't enjoy not being able to counter cops, angry peds, or gangs.

I don't enjoy driving through other cars and players.

I don't enjoy not being able to see them fully, it's visually annoying.

I don't enjoy not being able to take part in freemode events (which, when joining, should remove "passive" for everyone involved in PvP events).

 

Friendly-fire off would simply make it more enjoyable, and allow myself and others who like the open world aspect to be a little more social without having to wonder if this particular person is the one who's got to prove the magnitude of his epeen.

[SPECTER II]

It would work. I'm not sure why some people say otherwise.

Edited November 25, 2015 by SPECTER II