Why are the heist payouts so sh*t?

[Semaj 2JZ♢]

lol heists for money, modders made me rich enough to love the game without worrying about that sh*t.

So it took a mutually invested cheater to get you to love playing this game? You are no GTA fan. GTFOH.

[rlk232]

 

 

The thing is, money isn't easy to make, surely. But it is what it is; it won't be changing anytime soon. Truth is, you have to find a group of competent and patient people willing to do it with you.

 

Most people who say it's super easy to make money are typically either:

• Lucky to have enough friends that are on at the same times as they are
• Are kids or teenagers with no f*cking jobs or
• Are sitting at home on their asses all day not working.

For others who have lives outside of a video game and must work, making money can be time consuming. Not everyone is a professional at the game and/or is so fortunate as others. That's just MHO.

 

Or you can have a full-time job, be married and play about 2-3 hours a day during the week and 4-5 hours daily on the weekend. I get up about 3-3.5m a week doing that just by missions.

 

 

Lucky you. Like I said, not everyone has that kind of free time on their hands. Such as myself.

 

 

You should probably learn that sleep is a waste of time. That's my method for gaming.

[ClareXoBearrx3R9]

 

 

 

The thing is, money isn't easy to make, surely. But it is what it is; it won't be changing anytime soon. Truth is, you have to find a group of competent and patient people willing to do it with you.

 

Most people who say it's super easy to make money are typically either:

• Lucky to have enough friends that are on at the same times as they are
• Are kids or teenagers with no f*cking jobs or
• Are sitting at home on their asses all day not working.

For others who have lives outside of a video game and must work, making money can be time consuming. Not everyone is a professional at the game and/or is so fortunate as others. That's just MHO.

Or you can have a full-time job, be married and play about 2-3 hours a day during the week and 4-5 hours daily on the weekend. I get up about 3-3.5m a week doing that just by missions.

 

Lucky you. Like I said, not everyone has that kind of free time on their hands. Such as myself.

Then you're exactly who Shark Cards were made for...soloing missions works out to about $2/hr vs $20 shark cards, so unless you work at a brick factory in India you're probably better off that way.

 

You're not a better person because you're busy, BTW, and nobody cares.

 

 

Don't be a f*cking idiot. I never said I was a "better" person. If no one cares, let others speak for themselves instead of trying to come off like a bad ass.

[TeammateHelper]

I only play 3 hours a day during weekends (literally 6 hours a week) and I still do well.

 

Either you actually waste your time on things like waiting for a full game on a 2/4 lobby or you have the worst kind of luck.

 

EDIT: Sometimes I don't get to play on Sundays because I was at church and I'm really not feeling like killing people and telling them to f*ck off right after mass. So that's 3 hours a week.

Edited November 23, 2015 by TeammateAssist

[Weedell]

 

 

 

 

The thing is, money isn't easy to make, surely. But it is what it is; it won't be changing anytime soon. Truth is, you have to find a group of competent and patient people willing to do it with you.

 

Most people who say it's super easy to make money are typically either:

• Lucky to have enough friends that are on at the same times as they are
• Are kids or teenagers with no f*cking jobs or
• Are sitting at home on their asses all day not working.

For others who have lives outside of a video game and must work, making money can be time consuming. Not everyone is a professional at the game and/or is so fortunate as others. That's just MHO.

Or you can have a full-time job, be married and play about 2-3 hours a day during the week and 4-5 hours daily on the weekend. I get up about 3-3.5m a week doing that just by missions.

 

Lucky you. Like I said, not everyone has that kind of free time on their hands. Such as myself.

Then you're exactly who Shark Cards were made for...soloing missions works out to about $2/hr vs $20 shark cards, so unless you work at a brick factory in India you're probably better off that way.

 

You're not a better person because you're busy, BTW, and nobody cares.

 

Don't be a f*cking idiot. I never said I was a "better" person. If no one cares, let others speak for themselves instead of trying to come off like a bad ass.

Sure you didn't say it, but you sure implied it with your list of reasons people have more game time than you. If you forgot its quoted above and below

 

...Are kids or teenagers with no f*cking jobs or

Are sitting at home on their asses all day not working.

For others who have lives outside of a video game

Edited November 23, 2015 by Weedell

[MookStunna]

Better thread question would be, "Why are all of the Heist players such s--t?"

 

Seriously, tried this for the first time over the weekend...definite lack of talent and intelligence out there. For both this and the Lamar missions.

[zoso80]

With randoms, yes that can be a problem.

 

I will only heist with friends or people I know. Randoms are just too stressful.

 

Better thread question would be, "Why are all of the Heist players such s--t?"

 

Seriously, tried this for the first time over the weekend...definite lack of talent and intelligence out there. For both this and the Lamar missions.

 

The payouts are ok, but not great. The bonuses make them nice especially for the poorer players. But yes, heists separate the wheat from the chaff. The smart strategic players do fine with them. Players that just want to breeze through it or don't play smartly end up not cutting it.

 

Worst heist moment: a guy on my friends list leaves my apt at Eclipse on a motorcyle while we are in the first prison break setup. Idiot t-bones a car and is dead not 15 seconds into the first setup. He did other things, eventually I excused myself from that heist perminently.

 

 

 

 

CarimboHanky, on 21 Nov 2015 - 12:24 PM, said:

for such easy missions, i'd say heist payout are really good!

i mean we have guides, videos and other tricks available, heist are easy, nice payouts, the biggest isdue are the crap people playing them.

Edited November 23, 2015 by zoso80

[HaRdSTyLe_83]

all you need is the pac standard final mission

 

 

 

 

over and over again

[FFDP999]

What do people expect? They want to buy t20s with 1 play through. If people don't like the payout then just don't pay. They are fine the way they are.

[ClareXoBearrx3R9]

 

 

 

 

 

The thing is, money isn't easy to make, surely. But it is what it is; it won't be changing anytime soon. Truth is, you have to find a group of competent and patient people willing to do it with you.

 

Most people who say it's super easy to make money are typically either:

• Lucky to have enough friends that are on at the same times as they are
• Are kids or teenagers with no f*cking jobs or
• Are sitting at home on their asses all day not working.

For others who have lives outside of a video game and must work, making money can be time consuming. Not everyone is a professional at the game and/or is so fortunate as others. That's just MHO.

Or you can have a full-time job, be married and play about 2-3 hours a day during the week and 4-5 hours daily on the weekend. I get up about 3-3.5m a week doing that just by missions.

 

Lucky you. Like I said, not everyone has that kind of free time on their hands. Such as myself.

Then you're exactly who Shark Cards were made for...soloing missions works out to about $2/hr vs $20 shark cards, so unless you work at a brick factory in India you're probably better off that way.

 

You're not a better person because you're busy, BTW, and nobody cares.

 

Don't be a f*cking idiot. I never said I was a "better" person. If no one cares, let others speak for themselves instead of trying to come off like a bad ass.

Sure you didn't say it, but you sure implied it with your list of reasons people have more game time than you. If you forgot its quoted above and below

 

...Are kids or teenagers with no f*cking jobs or

Are sitting at home on their asses all day not working.

For others who have lives outside of a video game

 

 

What I meant in general was that making money isn't as easy or some people as it is for others. Not sure about you, or anyone else on here for that matter, but in GTA Online on PC, practically every lobby is infested with a seemingly no-life script-kiddy. And as soon as the lobby of 25 or so people gets blown up by them, every single time, there's instantly a bunch of people (nearly 10, on average) begging for money.

 

If money was as easy as so many people claim it to be, there wouldn't be so many people begging for money. Sure, there will always be some beggers and people who simply can't play the game properly and thus cheat. But when nearly half the population is begging for money, perhaps people should see that making money isn't such an easy task for everyone. It's easy to say "that's what Shark Cards are for", but again, not everyone has spare cash to throw around for virtual money in a video game.

 

I personally don't cheat nor do I condone cheating. But like I said, with nearly 50% of GTA Online player base constantly begging for money from modders, one has to wonder if money really is all that easy for everyone to make.

 

I'm not suggesting that the payouts should be changed; I'm only pointing out the reality of the matter.

[JAKEBAB]

 

 

 

 

 

 

The thing is, money isn't easy to make, surely. But it is what it is; it won't be changing anytime soon. Truth is, you have to find a group of competent and patient people willing to do it with you.

 

Most people who say it's super easy to make money are typically either:

• Lucky to have enough friends that are on at the same times as they are
• Are kids or teenagers with no f*cking jobs or
• Are sitting at home on their asses all day not working.

For others who have lives outside of a video game and must work, making money can be time consuming. Not everyone is a professional at the game and/or is so fortunate as others. That's just MHO.

Or you can have a full-time job, be married and play about 2-3 hours a day during the week and 4-5 hours daily on the weekend. I get up about 3-3.5m a week doing that just by missions.

 

Lucky you. Like I said, not everyone has that kind of free time on their hands. Such as myself.

Then you're exactly who Shark Cards were made for...soloing missions works out to about $2/hr vs $20 shark cards, so unless you work at a brick factory in India you're probably better off that way.

 

You're not a better person because you're busy, BTW, and nobody cares.

 

Don't be a f*cking idiot. I never said I was a "better" person. If no one cares, let others speak for themselves instead of trying to come off like a bad ass.

Sure you didn't say it, but you sure implied it with your list of reasons people have more game time than you. If you forgot its quoted above and below

 

...Are kids or teenagers with no f*cking jobs or

Are sitting at home on their asses all day not working.

For others who have lives outside of a video game

 

 

What I meant in general was that making money isn't as easy or some people as it is for others. Not sure about you, or anyone else on here for that matter, but in GTA Online on PC, practically every lobby is infested with a seemingly no-life script-kiddy. And as soon as the lobby of 25 or so people gets blown up by them, every single time, there's instantly a bunch of people (nearly 10, on average) begging for money.

 

If money was as easy as so many people claim it to be, there wouldn't be so many people begging for money. Sure, there will always be some beggers and people who simply can't play the game properly and thus cheat. But when nearly half the population is begging for money, perhaps people should see that making money isn't such an easy task for everyone. It's easy to say "that's what Shark Cards are for", but again, not everyone has spare cash to throw around for virtual money in a video game.

 

I personally don't cheat nor do I condone cheating. But like I said, with nearly 50% of GTA Online player base constantly begging for money from modders, one has to wonder if money really is all that easy for everyone to make.

 

I'm not suggesting that the payouts should be changed; I'm only pointing out the reality of the matter.

 

It's not that hard really a lot of those people begging are just lazy, that's the thing with this generation there lazy and think there entitled to everything, i wouldn't say that was the best example to make your case. 6+ hours on a good day to make $500k isn't the best but also stops everyone from having everything.

[fear_the_nut70]

Shark cards...

 

I made 2.4 million on pacific Standard last night. I put in a few hours, but still.

 

Just gotta know what you are doing, that's all.

[Retroview1955]

The Humane Labs raid, which is by far the heist I see the most when doing a quick job heist, rewards $540,000 on normal mode. The "final" heist of GTA Online, the Pacific Standard job, rewards $1000,000 on normal mode.

 

Usually if you're not the host you get 15% or less. In quick job heist, I've seen the Humane Labs raid the most by far, and I've never seen the Pacific job ever.

 

Considering the time you have to put in (on average I have to replay the mission at least five times because someone always f*cks up), and the prices of stuff you can buy in GTA Online, the payout is really sh*t.

 

By comparison, the final heist in the singleplayer pays out a whopping $201,600,000.

 

If you want a decent apartment in GTA Online, you have to drop at least a couple of hundred grand. And then there's a sh*t ton of money to spend on good looking cars. Not to mention tuning them, which is expensive as sh*t. Hell, even clothes in GTA Online are expensive.

 

Why do the heists give such a sh*tty payout? It's really hard for me to believe that a couple of guys would infiltrate a high security government operation for "just" a couple of hundred grand, which they have to split up between the four of them.

Get a dedicated team and play through all the heists. Even do the Pac Standard several times. You could easily make 5 million in a weekend.

[ClareXoBearrx3R9]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The thing is, money isn't easy to make, surely. But it is what it is; it won't be changing anytime soon. Truth is, you have to find a group of competent and patient people willing to do it with you.

 

Most people who say it's super easy to make money are typically either:

• Lucky to have enough friends that are on at the same times as they are
• Are kids or teenagers with no f*cking jobs or
• Are sitting at home on their asses all day not working.

For others who have lives outside of a video game and must work, making money can be time consuming. Not everyone is a professional at the game and/or is so fortunate as others. That's just MHO.

Or you can have a full-time job, be married and play about 2-3 hours a day during the week and 4-5 hours daily on the weekend. I get up about 3-3.5m a week doing that just by missions.

 

Lucky you. Like I said, not everyone has that kind of free time on their hands. Such as myself.

Then you're exactly who Shark Cards were made for...soloing missions works out to about $2/hr vs $20 shark cards, so unless you work at a brick factory in India you're probably better off that way.

 

You're not a better person because you're busy, BTW, and nobody cares.

 

Don't be a f*cking idiot. I never said I was a "better" person. If no one cares, let others speak for themselves instead of trying to come off like a bad ass.

Sure you didn't say it, but you sure implied it with your list of reasons people have more game time than you. If you forgot its quoted above and below

 

...Are kids or teenagers with no f*cking jobs or

Are sitting at home on their asses all day not working.

For others who have lives outside of a video game

 

 

What I meant in general was that making money isn't as easy or some people as it is for others. Not sure about you, or anyone else on here for that matter, but in GTA Online on PC, practically every lobby is infested with a seemingly no-life script-kiddy. And as soon as the lobby of 25 or so people gets blown up by them, every single time, there's instantly a bunch of people (nearly 10, on average) begging for money.

 

If money was as easy as so many people claim it to be, there wouldn't be so many people begging for money. Sure, there will always be some beggers and people who simply can't play the game properly and thus cheat. But when nearly half the population is begging for money, perhaps people should see that making money isn't such an easy task for everyone. It's easy to say "that's what Shark Cards are for", but again, not everyone has spare cash to throw around for virtual money in a video game.

 

I personally don't cheat nor do I condone cheating. But like I said, with nearly 50% of GTA Online player base constantly begging for money from modders, one has to wonder if money really is all that easy for everyone to make.

 

I'm not suggesting that the payouts should be changed; I'm only pointing out the reality of the matter.

 

It's not that hard really a lot of those people begging are just lazy, that's the thing with this generation there lazy and think there entitled to everything, i wouldn't say that was the best example to make your case. 6+ hours on a good day to make $500k isn't the best but also stops everyone from having everything.

 

I get that and for the most part, agree. But like I said, not everyone has 6 hours to play. My main issue is that a normally can't play for any longer than 45 minutes... Just too many things to do.

 

Anyhow, I'm personally not complaining about the system. But my point was, there are plenty of others who feel that making money isn't that easy. People admit to it all the time online and while many are indeed lazy, some have still admitted that it takes so long. IMHO, the GTA Online economy has been f*cked, thanks to the great number of cheaters in GTA Online. Literally on PC anyway, in a session with 5 people, at least one person is cheating with a script or other cheat.

[High King]

I think anyone who remembers grinding Violent Duct, Rooftop Rumble, and Coveted for days just to reach 500k will agree that the heist payouts are pretty fair.

[rlk232]

I think most of us agree that a 10-15% boost, even 25%, would be fair. Prison Break is brutal to play through for 500k max, split 4 ways.

[CarimboHanky]

I think most of us agree that a 10-15% boost, even 25%, would be fair. Prison Break is brutal to play through for 500k max, split 4 ways.

PB brutal to play?!

 

that one is the easiest one after fleeca.

 

all setups are easy and so is the finale.

 

it can get tricky if doing a elite run but on regular gameplay is piss easy!

[Hominin]

to encourage modders. R* is getting more stupid every day, when they introduced the multi-million super cars (which makes sense, supercars are expensive IRL and useful in races), they at least provided the double rewards heists so people could afford them legitimately. then they bring out these stupid lowriders which in real life are owned by working class people and cost tens of thousands, not a couple of million and didn't provide any way to make that kind of money within a reasonable time-frame. not surprisingly, modding/hacking/cheating has completely gone out of hand since they released that DLC. i've even discussed this with R* management who don't think people mind grinding for months (if you have a life on the side) to afford 1 useless car and won't go to modders for the money instead. how these people managed to develop a game with that level of intelligence is beyond me

 

the shark card argument is mute as well, you couldn't get a fully modded lowrider unless you buy the "whale shark card" which is $65, around the same price as the game itself. does anyone buy those?

Edited November 24, 2015 by Hominin

[CarimboHanky]

 

just this past week i made over 2 millions without doing a single heist, just playing missions, freeroam events and stuff like that.

 

theres so many money making options, theres no need to grind or buy cashcard.

 

you just have to play the game.

[Hominin]

 

 

just this past week i made over 2 millions without doing a single heist, just playing missions, freeroam events and stuff like that.

 

theres so many money making options, theres no need to grind or buy cashcard.

 

you just have to play the game.

 

as i said, i was talking about people with lives. i also make a fortune every week from just playing but i'm a lazy bastard with money so i can spend a lot of time playing. some people have jobs to go to, kids to look after or if they're younger, homework to do. you're not going to make $2mil a week playing a few precious spare hours.

Edited November 24, 2015 by Hominin

[Shaundi]

I think most of us agree that a 10-15% boost, even 25%, would be fair. Prison Break is brutal to play through for 500k max, split 4 ways.

 

I think a 10% boost would be enough.

[Shootinalloveryourface]

If you do the internet disconnect under the bridge glitch you can make a killing. We just did the finale 5 times. Banked $2m in lil over an hour and a half.

[ersd123fastman]

Cuz kush kards.

[Hominin]

k, for an actually useful comment, do your daily objectives (they're about due so i'm outta here). they never change them so you can find the shortcuts and do them in half an hour max each day. the bonuses really add up if you can spare that half hour every day and have friends to help you with the trickier ones. Doesn't require any cheating or glitchinig.

Edited November 24, 2015 by Hominin

[JustRob]

 

I think most of us agree that a 10-15% boost, even 25%, would be fair. Prison Break is brutal to play through for 500k max, split 4 ways.

PB brutal to play?!

 

that one is the easiest one after fleeca.

 

all setups are easy and so is the finale.

 

it can get tricky if doing a elite run but on regular gameplay is piss easy!

 

 

Prison Break is not easy, it's f*cking retarded. I've always hated that one the most.

 

To start with, when you step out of the prison bus and start walking, for some reason the guard at the corner always f*cking makes you. Like seriously, how? You're dressed as a cop and a prisoner and you just came out of a prison bus. How the f*ck could he possibly know?

 

Then he starts shooting at you, or you shoot him first if you're fast enough. Then there's like five guys behind you who immediately start shooting at you, so say goodbye to any armor you may have had. Then you have to climb up above, where you're basically a moving target that says "SHOOT ME" until you get back down and into cover.

 

I'd actually say that Humane Labs is easier than Prison Break, just because at least Humane Labs provides enough cover and you can rest a few seconds every now and then to eat some snacks if needed.

[CarimboHanky]

you're not going to make $2mil a week playing a few precious spare hours.

well i just did...

 

im married, 3 kids and full time job(on-call 24/7) that gets to play maybe 2-3 hours a day.

 

so its possible to make a million or two.

 

like i said in other thread the problem is that people are too lazy and simply want stuff handed to them.

[JustRob]

Also, on the subject of making money, it's really f*cking dumb that you can't sell high end cars you find in traffic. If I find an Infernus I should be able to sell it for some nice extra cash. But no, ofcourse not. That would be too easy, right?

[CarimboHanky]

 

 

I think most of us agree that a 10-15% boost, even 25%, would be fair. Prison Break is brutal to play through for 500k max, split 4 ways.

PB brutal to play?!

 

that one is the easiest one after fleeca.

 

all setups are easy and so is the finale.

 

it can get tricky if doing a elite run but on regular gameplay is piss easy!

 

Prison Break is not easy, it's f*cking retarded. I've always hated that one the most.

 

To start with, when you step out of the prison bus and start walking, for some reason the guard at the corner always f*cking makes you. Like seriously, how? You're dressed as a cop and a prisoner and you just came out of a prison bus. How the f*ck could he possibly know?

 

Then he starts shooting at you, or you shoot him first if you're fast enough. Then there's like five guys behind you who immediately start shooting at you, so say goodbye to any armor you may have had. Then you have to climb up above, where you're basically a moving target that says "SHOOT ME" until you get back down and into cover.

 

I'd actually say that Humane Labs is easier than Prison Break, just because at least Humane Labs provides enough cover and you can rest a few seconds every now and then to eat some snacks if needed.

i played PB many times, 90% of the time as prisoner and never had any issues...

 

from top of my head...

 

1-step off the bus

2-shoot the guards

3-walk a bit

4&shoot the guard in the catwalk

5-climb the ladder

6-shoot the 2 guards in the roof

7-move to the stairs

8-from there "the guard" shoot the guards spawning on the buildings across while the prisoner moves to trigger the cutscene.

 

 

if youre losing your armor before step 6 you just playing it wrong.

 

if youre playing with people that know how to play, you can have the buzzard giving air support to the prisoner/guard.

 

i always played with competent people, maybe thats why it seem so easy.

[Business_Cat]

 

you're not going to make $2mil a week playing a few precious spare hours.

well i just did...

 

im married, 3 kids and full time job(on-call 24/7) that gets to play maybe 2-3 hours a day.

 

so its possible to make a million or two.

 

like i said in other thread the problem is that people are too lazy and simply want stuff handed to them.

 

yeah this is absolutely true and almost the same for me. A nine to five office job, serious and regular badminton games and play GTAO 2-3 hours a day and make 1-1.5 million a week just playing daily objectives, freemode events, car sales, robbing all the stores and when my friends are online, we do heists. Even with just doing the normal routine, I steadily make money and get everything I want.

[darkgreenmeme]

Because Rockstar know people are gullible enough and willing to spend time more than they need to work for in-game money.

Those Rockstar people, trying to get people to play the game, they are so evil.