Most intelligent GTA protagonist?

[wastelandherox9x]

Who do you think is the most smartest of all playable characters?

[universetwisters]

I think the most intelligent protagonist is Mike.

[Osho]

Tommy Vercetti will be my choice from the 3D universe.

Trevor seems my choice in the HD universe.

[Xing of Virtue]

Chop. He's so decisive when it comes to fulfilling his "man's" needs.

 

OT: It's probably Claude.

 

Edited November 19, 2015 by Xing of Virtue

[Osho]

Chop. He's so decisive when it comes to fulfilling his "man's" needs.

He's not a protagonist.

[quejki]

Of course Niko Bellic

[ermaccer]

Vic, smarter than thou killer.

[BlackSnow176]

Tommy Vercetti will be my choice from the 3D universe.

Trevor seems my choice in the HD universe.

 

That would be my answer as well

 

Claude - he seems pretty intelligent, but also has a violent side and would do anything to get his hands on Catalina.

 

Tommy Vercetti - he never lets his emotions get ahead of him and always seems to be a few steps ahead of his enemies. He never showed a weakness and always followed his plans. There's a reason he became the biggest drug lord in Miami.

 

Carl Johnson - not a stupid guy, but not an experienced one, either. Seems like a quick learner. Disqualified of the Top 3 for hating gravity AND not following the damn train.

 

Niko Bellic - he lets his actions speak louder than his words, but isn't exactly a criminal mastermind. Disqalified of the Top 3 for not giving Roman a good spanking.

 

Johnny Klebitz - while he isn't stupid, he isn't Einstein. His heart and loyalty to The Lost tell him what to do, which isn't always the best option. Disqualified of the Top 3 for never showering or changing his clothes. Eww...

 

Luis Lopez - for a manwhore that works at a night club and as a babysitter, he's a pretty smart guy. Like Niko, he lets his actions speak louder than his words. Disqualified of the Top 3 for having one of the worst wardrobes ever.

 

Franklin Clinton - he's a smart guy and a quick learner, but not exactly a criminal mastermind. Disqualified of the Top 3 for ever using a dye pack during a robbery.

 

Michael De Santa - he is one of the most intelligent protagonists in the series, but lets his emotions get ahead of him and does stupid things that he later regrets. He also got married at some point, so he's automatically disqualified of the Top 3.

 

Trevor Phillips - he can be a violent bully, but by no means is he dumb; he may be the most intelligent HD-era protagonist so far. All the dirty clothes and drugs in the world can't hide his genius. Bonus points for fighting the power and sporting a mighty beard

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2015 by BlackSnow176

[Lemoyne outlaw]

 

Chop. He's so decisive when it comes to fulfilling his "man's" needs.

He's not a protagonist.

 

well technically he is. in the chop mission you can switch to him and see his point of view.

 

 

anyway my top 3 would be michael as he is older and sort of wiser. he even plained that blitz play heist on short notice.

 

trevor while he is very violent and crazy he is not dumb. he has his own buissness with only a few people.

 

and the third is vic vance. he was another very smart protag. just starting with martys small empire then growing to be strong enough to fight and beat the mendez bros. .the most feared cartel in vc at the time.

[nickvick197]

Here's how I see it all

 

Claude - Hard to tell through his dull ass personality

 

Tommy - He was definitely the most intelligent out of every protagonist.

 

CJ - CJ is book dumb. While he's obviously not known for his academic education, he can come up with some pretty clever plans.

 

Toni - Not stupid, but extremely impulsive.

 

Vic - He was pretty smart, but lacked a whole lot of common sense. In other words, he's someone who I can depict him as a ditzy genius.

 

Niko - Somewhat smart, but also pretty naive. Mostly because he's a Serbian immigrant.

 

Trevor - He's probably second to Tommy when it comes to intelligence in spite of his jerkassness.

 

Michael - Like Vic, he's a ditzy genius.

 

Franklin - He's really more street smart.

[universetwisters]

You forgot Johnny & Luis, boyo.

[Arachne]

Probably Tommy

[American Viking]

Though not a protagonist so to speak, I'd say Lester is the smartest. He is the brainpower behind most of GTA V's "heists" and apparently a great hacker too.

 

For actual protag, I want to say Niko is the top 3 for sure. Niko comes off uninformed sometimes do to his unfamiliarity with American culture, but he is an excellent reader of people. He was so sure that Vlad was a nobody within Mikhail's organization that he had no qualms about assassinating him. That speaks highly to his ability to read people seeing as how he only saw Vlad a few times, and he also knew Vlad was messing with Mallorie although that was kind of obvious. I do have to take points away from Niko for being so oblivious to Michele's undercover status, but to be fair, first time I played GTA IV I had no clue either. I figured she was just nosy.

Niko is very smart about using people to get his way and manipulating situations in his favor. He is also very careful with who he affiliates. You can tell that Niko liked Phil Bell a helluva lot more than Ray Boccino. Even though he needed Ray for a favor, he knew something stunk about Ray and he was right. So yes, top 3 smartest I believe.

I'd rank Johnny right up there with Niko, and Michael too.

Don't give me any sh*t about Tommy Vercetti. It's been forever and a day since I've played Vice City and I don't remember enough about him off the top to say for certain.

I can tell you with no uncertainty that Franklin is probably the dumbest.

[Algonquin Assassin]

I think Niko was always suspicious of Michelle, but never had much to go on. Like when he says after sleeping with her "Nice girl, but umm something strange about her" to himself.

 

From conversations out on dates and such you could tell he was weary. Not enough to know she was working for the government, but enough to suspect something wasn't quite right. At least that's what it comes across to me.

 

Also he knew one of his friends betrayed him and moved to Liberty City. You don't travel halfway across the world on a boat for 7 months looking for someone unless you know for certain. He doesn't exactly come across a criminal mastermind, but I agree that he's a great person reader.

Edited November 20, 2015 by PulpFiction

[PhillBellic]

I reckon Niko is one of the most Intelligent Portagonists. Despite his troubled past he can spend his time contemplating his life, and make some astute observations about how the World works. Additionally, when compared to the Criminals he often works with, he also shows some good manners. Furthermore, when I was reading his E-Mail replies he used good grammar there.

[svanderman]

I think Tommy Vercetti is the smartest. He made Diaz trust him, and then took over his empire. He definitely knows who to have as associates, which is very important.

Second place would be Victor Vance. He started an empire big enough to take down the Mendez Cartel, while handling Lance Vance at the same time. I also liked how he took his time to make a decent plab before getting revenge on the Mendez brothers.

The third place would be Michael. He seems like a smart and experienced guy, but his temper prevents him from being first or second.

[Femme Fatale]

Tommy...

[mp412rex]

All of them got what they wanted, they're all intelligent in their own ways. Ones were smart enough to amass a fortune, others to save their family from powerful enemies and others got their revenge in the end.

[[...]]

Michael De Santa.

[Tycek]

I would say that Niko and Tommy were the most intelligent in the series.

 

Niko was aware of his shortcomings, knew how to approach some people and how to push them to make them do what he wanted. He also sometimes play dumb to get as much as possible from people, which is clearly visible in some of his conversations (with Angie or Jimmy Pegorino for example).

 

Tommy is similar way to Niko knew the way to get to some people and he basically crafted whole plan how to take control over the Vice City.

[The Dedito Gae]

I would say that Niko and Tommy were the most intelligent in the series.

Tommy comes across as kinda naive and unexperienced at moments, Michael is a criminal mastermind ....at times, he gets too carried away with emotions tho.

 

Franklin Clinton - he's a smart guy and a quick learner, but not exactly a criminal mastermind. Disqualified of the Top 3 for ever using a dye pack during a robbery.

He's like in his 20's man, cut him some slack.

 

I can tell you with no uncertainty that Franklin is probably the dumbest.

Why's that?

 

He was the strong headed in V (he never pulled down a house down and he's far ahead of T in that regard) compared to the other two, he was the only one with common sense, he also learns fast and is really reliable in many ways, he's just young and unexperienced, he's not dumb, Toni and CJ come across as simplistic and talentless compared to other protags.

Edited November 21, 2015 by Midnight Hitman

[.Smaher.]

A lot of the GTA protagonists are kinda dumb, tbh. A top contender for me would be Claude. Silent as a mouse, but gets the job done.

[XenoxX]

 

I would say that Niko and Tommy were the most intelligent in the series.

Tommy comes across as kinda naive and unexperienced at moments, Michael is a criminal mastermind ....at times, he gets too carried away with emotions tho.

 

Franklin Clinton - he's a smart guy and a quick learner, but not exactly a criminal mastermind. Disqualified of the Top 3 for ever using a dye pack during a robbery.

He's like in his 20's man, cut him some slack.

 

I can tell you with no uncertainty that Franklin is probably the dumbest.

Why's that?

 

He was the strong headed in V (he never pulled down a house down and he's far ahead of T in that regard) compared to the other two, he was the only one with common sense, he also learns fast and is really reliable in many ways, he's just young and unexperienced, he's not dumb, Toni and CJ come across as simplistic and talentless compared to other protags.

Well Franklins dumb part, is that he still goes after Tanisha, writing her the most cringeworthy EMAILs as well..

[American Viking]

Why's that?

 

He was the strong headed in V (he never pulled down a house down and he's far ahead of T in that regard) compared to the other two, he was the only one with common sense, he also learns fast and is really reliable in many ways, he's just young and unexperienced, he's not dumb, Toni and CJ come across as simplistic and talentless compared to other protags.

 

Let's just get this out of the way real quick. Michael pulling down that house was an honest mistake made in the heat of the moment with clouded judgement. He had just caught his wife cheating, he was in a high speed chase, and the guy was standing on the balcony so how was he to know it wasn't his house.

As for Franklin, he was not strong minded. He was weak minded...demonstrated everytime he took exception to Lamar's gangsterism but continued to follow the monkey into gang warfare. This also showcased his lack of intelligence. That and how easy it was for Stretch to lead him and Lamar to a warehouse to be crossed. Sure Franklin had his reservations and suspicions about Stretch, but he still followed like a lamb to slaughter. Then there's the ol' story about the dye pack going off during his first robbery I believe. C'mon, you're gonna team up with a professional bank robber to pull off Hollywood style heists, and a dye pack foiled your plan. I'm not sure I'd trust that guy.

Then there's Tanisha who, once again in his weak mind couldn't fathom the idea that she had moved on. This is called thick headedness. Oh, and let's not forget all the times he helped that crack whore whose boyfriend wouldn't work because he was cracked out himself. Call it loyalty if you want, but I call it being used and being to near sighted to see your own stupidity.

Don't get me started on his butchery of the English language, how he contributed nothing to any of the heists ideal wise, how he road Michael's coat tail, or his hypocritical nature.

[The Dedito Gae]

...Michael pulling down that house was an honest mistake made in the heat of the moment with clouded judgement...

Yeahh, honest mistake, we all been there, alas, that was too much for a so called calm guy as Michael.

That and how easy it was for Stretch to lead him and Lamar to a warehouse to be crossed. Sure Franklin had his reservations and suspicions about Stretch, but he still followed like a lamb to slaughter...

He was double crossed, big deal, any gta protag went thru that, don't pretend you saw that coming.

...Then there's the ol' story about the dye pack going off during his first robbery I believe. C'mon, you're gonna team up with a professional bank robber to pull off Hollywood style heists, and a dye pack foiled your plan. I'm not sure I'd trust that guy....

It was his first time?

Like, he rolls with T the whole time, i'm sure he did it worst but he's still a capable henchman.

Then there's Tanisha who, once again in his weak mind couldn't fathom the idea that she had moved on..

We all had a girl like that, F just has feelings and at least knows what he wants, unlike Michael who whines about his family and then cries about them when gone....

... Oh, and let's not forget all the times he helped that crack whore whose boyfriend wouldn't work because he was cracked out himself. Call it loyalty if you want, but I call it being used and being to near sighted to see your own stupidity...

That would be empathy or compassion, granted, he was used, but i don't see it as red flag of stupidity.

Don't get me started on his butchery of the English language...

That would touch a nerve, but it would be nice to get a black ptotag that doesn't talk in ebonics.

...his hypocritical nature.

If being an hypocrite is a sign of idiocy, then Victor, Michael and Trevor are the biggest f*ckwits ever in gta history. Edited November 22, 2015 by Midnight Hitman

[UshaB]

Trevor maybe? Also, never finished Vice City as I found crossing over from PS2 to Xbox really difficult so I don't know much about Tommy.

[Tycek]

 

I would say that Niko and Tommy were the most intelligent in the series.

Tommy comes across as kinda naive and unexperienced at moments, Michael is a criminal mastermind ....at times, he gets too carried away with emotions tho.

I don't see how exactly the second part of the sentence correlates to the first, especially that I never mentioned Michael.

 

Tommy may be sometimes a bit naive and acting like he's inexperienced, but it's quite understandable for a guy who spent 15 years in a joint. Also we don't know his past too well, because his role in the Forellis wasn't fully explained. We know that he was made at some point ("Yeah, I've been part of a family before alright. It didn't work out."), but we weren't informed that he was a capo or maybe just a wet job guy.

 

Either way, I would say that his plan to play both sides for Haitians and Cubans to fuel their war, doing Cortez's errands to keep him closer and acting a bit naive to Diaz to buy time and learn his ways were pretty clever ideas. In the end he get job done with minimal casualties in his own team, so I would say he was pretty intelligent and capable of taking care of his own.

 

 

Michael is indeed portrayed as criminal mastermind, but in reality his whole fame comes from Lester (who is the real intelligent guy - getting millions and using pawns like Michael, who are expandable to extent, to not make his hands dirty). Michael's role was limited to picking an approach (already planned by Lester) and picking guys (again chosen by Lester). In the end Michael is not doing real sh*t apart from handling the gun pretty well.

His own decision are not thought very well - he escaped from NY, but of course he didn't thought about changing his identity or appearance, he torn down the house without thinking about the consequences, he used his tacky catchphrase, he allow FIB to use him as their bitch, he allow Trevor to get near Mandrazo, etc. Only thing that was more or less well thought was his NY escape plan (but we don't know whose idea that was - could be Lester's again), but even then he allowed it to not work as planned since Trevor escaped the ambush.

Edited November 22, 2015 by Tycek

[Peppa Pig]

Tommy Vercetti.

[Paul72]

The most intelligent protagonists are Tommy, Niko, and Trevor.

[Johnny Spaz]

Nobody's mentioned Huang Lee.