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Casino, Stock Market, Mission Creator - are they unworkable online?


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Are the most sought after additions to GTA Online ever going to work, let alone feature?

 

Would you take it if these features were added as single-player only, I know I would.

 

You could create story mode missions and upload them to PSN/Xbox Live for others to try, or even make mission playlists and make an actual story out of them? Much like DYOM for GTA SA (http://gtaforums.com/forum/263-design-your-own-mission/)

 

Wouldn't mind an online, live stock market in single player either, and a casino would be great, a chance to get ahead before the big-paying missions (providing it wasn't locked until near the end of the game) .

 

Or is there a way that these features can be implemented online without the inevitable exploitation and potential ruining of the game?

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If we get a casino it would just lead to more complaints.

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Casino would be exploited to hell. Max bet if you lose disconnect from Internet. Already found a way to cheat the system and it's not even out yet. The only other option is make the bets so small it's not worth it to cheat.

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Mission Creator should be possible, at least from an exploitability standpoint. As long as they make all created missions have the same time-based payouts as regular contact missions, and don't let you put in the money or drug pickups available in The LS Connection, you're good to go. An RP cap would also be needed so you can't slaughter infinitely-spawning AI to level up, but that shouldn't be hard either. Maybe the bigger concern they have is how to let us create missions that aren't buggy messes; going by Rockstar's own track record with having to fix missions, that apparently isn't too easy.

 

The Casino should also be possible as long as they put in daily caps for betting, winning, and losing. Then make sure those caps are observed on their servers and cannot be violated by modders or glitchers. They seem to have done a good job with similar concepts like not letting you re-run time trials for the full payout, so I'd think it's doable. Honestly, I figured that thing would be open by now - they know people want it, and some findings long ago indicated they were working on it. Shrug.

 

The stock market... I doubt it's ever coming to Online, and to tell the truth, I don't care about it. I know a lot of people wanted it when the game first came out but it seems so boring to me. The only use I ever had for it in single player was making a quick fortune after I'd already beaten the story.

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The user created content has been 99.9999% crap, I wouldn't want R* to waste time developing more

 

Stock market??? meh

 

Casino? maybe, if they opened the horse track out back it could be a fun way to make some money

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all of them are doable, the problem would be the amount of glitches they would introduce, i think thats the biggest "fear" by R*

 

theres a mess with the created content when it comes to DM/Races all full of spawntraps and ramp races, imagine the missions section filled with user created crap, unless they add a filter i wont want them to release a mission creator.

 

the casino could be a huge thing if done right, it would be rigged as f*ck but hell ill do that sh*t. the problem here lies in a couple things im sure R* would do... betting cap, daily betting limit and playing/betting against other players. a fixed poker game between friends can be used to transfer wealth and we know thats something R* dont want.

 

stock market could a nice thing, i made over 20Billion with every character in sp, i dont think that kind of money could be made online, but it would be cool to play the market, win/lose a couple millions.

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Are the most sought after additions to GTA Online ever going to work, let alone feature?

 

Would you take it if these features were added as single-player only, I know I would.

 

You could create story mode missions and upload them to PSN/Xbox Live for others to try, or even make mission playlists and make an actual story out of them? Much like DYOM for GTA SA (http://gtaforums.com/forum/263-design-your-own-mission/)

 

Wouldn't mind an online, live stock market in single player either, and a casino would be great, a chance to get ahead before the big-paying missions (providing it wasn't locked until near the end of the game) .

 

Or is there a way that these features can be implemented online without the inevitable exploitation and potential ruining of the game?

Mission Creator and Stock Market are probably highly exploitable thus aren't going to be implemented.

 

Casino will be implemented.

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Are the most sought after additions to GTA Online ever going to work, let alone feature?

 

Would you take it if these features were added as single-player only, I know I would.

 

You could create story mode missions and upload them to PSN/Xbox Live for others to try, or even make mission playlists and make an actual story out of them? Much like DYOM for GTA SA (http://gtaforums.com/forum/263-design-your-own-mission/)

 

Wouldn't mind an online, live stock market in single player either, and a casino would be great, a chance to get ahead before the big-paying missions (providing it wasn't locked until near the end of the game) .

 

Or is there a way that these features can be implemented online without the inevitable exploitation and potential ruining of the game?

Mission Creator and Stock Market are probably highly exploitable thus aren't going to be implemented.

 

 

 

 

There should be no reason for a mission creator to be exploitable in any meaningful way (meaning lots of money or RP in short amounts of time).

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Mission creator is my biggest plausible wish for GTAO. It expands the gameplay 100x imo.

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The casino would be hard for R* to implement simply because we can pay real money for GTA dollars so technically / legally the game would be turned into an online gambling game, which are regulated.

The stock market is closed online for the same reason as above imo. I'm no lawyer but the fact is their in-game currency has real value so allowing us to trade / gamble requires more than just your average online video game approval ratings.

 

That or it's all just about the cash cards... either way i'm not into grinding money in a casino in such an awesome game. The stocks maybe but I think the gambling would be best as a friendly thing, like a table in our apartment that we could play with our friends. That way we're not just feeding the cash cow.

 

I'm curious to know... considering the in-game money has real value, do you think the odds would be in our favour at this casino?

Personally I think it would open a whole new series of complaints & conspiracies.

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There should be no reason for a mission creator to be exploitable in any meaningful way (meaning lots of money or RP in short amounts of time).

Maybe, but I tend to think it's a risk Rockstar is unwilling to take.

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There should be no reason for a mission creator to be exploitable in any meaningful way (meaning lots of money or RP in short amounts of time).

Maybe, but I tend to think it's a risk Rockstar is unwilling to take.

The coding on a mission creator would be MASSIVE.

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Sancho Pantches

I feel they might wait with the mission creator release until the interest for the GTAO starts to fade.

Or maybe for the next GTAO. Or maybe the next GTA will be only MP online, and there the

mission creator would be inevitable as R* would not bother to make any kind of story.

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A contact mission creator probably wouldn't be too bad, I'm sure R* could put limitations in place to prevent people from creating missions so they can earn $100k in five minutes or something ridiculous like that.

 

I don't think a casino would be a big problem either, just make it like a real life casino where the odds of winning are really small, and make the entry fees enormous or something.

 

And I personally think the stock market in Online would be a terrible idea, you'd have people grouping together to exploit it. For example, buy a load of stocks in a car company when their shares are really low, then go on a spree and destroy that company's rivals cars to raise the price of their shares then sell them for a profit. It would be too easy to make money with the stock market, and well... shark cards.

the idea of a mission creator and then just hoping rockstar puts enough limitations in it for it not to end like how it went with the deathmatch creator, race creator and sh*t.....

 

 

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realy, gtao is a nice game and stuff but....heh.....not f*cking up things when talking about balancing things and making sure things dont get abused does not seem like something they are any good in :/

 

realy, i might change my mind if i see rockstar releasing an update that does not implement more bugs and gliches, but for now.....i dont think seeing any of the OP's ideas being implemented sounds like a good idea for anyone.

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Casino - It is possible as long as players don't bet GTA's virtual cash since you can buy them by using real life money. Basically GTA Online would need a virtual casino-only currency that can only be used to buy extra stuff that sells in the casino, like maybe clothing, weapon tints, so it wouldn't have a great appeal to some people. I wouldn't mind, I would play it for fun only.

 

 

Stock Market - It'd be so predictable at first that it was going to be hilarious, seeing the prices of the Zentorno going up to 30 millions, but for the same reason as the Casino, it would not be permitted because it's messing with real life money as well.

 

 

Mission Creator - It'd be a lot more complex than the other creators, so I think only 5% of the missions created would be actually fun, but I could be wrong. It'd be nice to have a mission creator to see that.

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Sancho Pantches
I see already a lot of mission creator features in the current capture creator.
If R* could allow to set minimum teams to one, that would make possible to call some capture jobs a "mission".

 

With the director mode it is possible to make some intro/ending cut scenes?
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The mission creator is already in the game though it is inaccessible, how do you think R* created all those linear Contact Missions? The only three things in GTA Online which is properly scripted are the Adversary Modes, Heists and Freemode Events

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For user created missions no thank you. It's already bad enough that rockstar won't remove those 99999999 cash rp Pakour deathmatches.

 

For Casinos Rockstar will most likely make where it's too pricey to actually make a profit. Imagine 100k for a 150k lottery ticket? But if it's ever added I would love to see a car or pegasus vehicle you can only get by winning the grand prize or jackpot.

 

For the stock market Rockstar can put a limit on how much goes down by blowing up or harming whatever. Say if one million players blow up vapid vehicles or clucken bell it'll only go down 10-20 percent.

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Mission Creator was used to make Titan of a Crap and some other custom missions by modders that led to a whole bunch of people getting banned when they played them.

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Casino would be exploited to hell. Max bet if you lose disconnect from Internet. Already found a way to cheat the system and it's not even out yet. The only other option is make the bets so small it's not worth it to cheat.

or, it would remove the money from your account when you place the bet, not after a result

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There should be no reason for a mission creator to be exploitable in any meaningful way (meaning lots of money or RP in short amounts of time).

Maybe, but I tend to think it's a risk Rockstar is unwilling to take.
The coding on a mission creator would be MASSIVE. the basic mission creator already exists in the game it's just not available.

 

This is an old video so don't get your hopes up. It's been patched.

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The casino would be hard for R* to implement simply because we can pay real money for GTA dollars so technically / legally the game would be turned into an online gambling game, which are regulated.

The stock market is closed online for the same reason as above imo. I'm no lawyer but the fact is their in-game currency has real value so allowing us to trade / gamble requires more than just your average online video game approval ratings.

I was saying this 2 years ago. The casino will never happen online as long as people can buy GTA$ with real money unless they do away with the money aspect entirely.

 

Make it like any free poker app you download to your phone or hell, like the poker game available in RDR online. You only played with the chips dolled out at the beginning and you win when every other player is eliminated. You make no financial profit, only earn XP and maybe unlock some exclusive content like T-Shirts or whatnot.

 

A person with no cash has an equal chance as a billionair of winning the same prizes. Skill, not bank will determine the winner.

 

But the community as a whole would crucify R* for doing that.

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Where do yall come up with this "GTA $ can be bought with real money so it's illegal" statement from? Its not even close to gambling. Can you win real money through GTA??? There's your answer right there.

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Funny enough I did this thread about 2 weeks ago. I guess regularity appeals more than the latter...

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What haven't people exploited? Every creator game mode has been exploited. If they add things who cares if people exploit them when they have exploited them from day one.

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Where do yall come up with this "GTA $ can be bought with real money so it's illegal" statement from? Its not even close to gambling. Can you win real money through GTA??? There's your answer right there.

The GTA$ you buy with Cash Cards are products not money. They are non transferable. I cannot redeem my GTA$ millions for real money.

We already have gambling in GTAonline. The betting in races ring any bells?

I think the casino would make a nice addition.

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If we get a casino it would just lead to more complaints.

 

But here is what is entertaining....if you don't get a Casino, ever, it will lead to complaints. This is no win for Rock Star.

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Where do yall come up with this "GTA $ can be bought with real money so it's illegal" statement from? Its not even close to gambling. Can you win real money through GTA??? There's your answer right there.

chill, no one said it's illegal. I said games that offer online gambling need to jump through more hoops than other games that don't. It's a fact.

 

+ How is playing the casino & stocks not even close to gambling? Was that sarcastic?

If not here's another fact. You can spend real money to buy GTA$ / gambling chips. That's the only issue, it's not about winning real money, only potentially spending more of it to gamble it away at a virtual casino.

On a lighter note, if the odds were like a real casino I think after a couple rounds you would agree it's a gamble to throw money at the machine, real or fake.

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Where do yall come up with this "GTA $ can be bought with real money so it's illegal" statement from? Its not even close to gambling. Can you win real money through GTA??? There's your answer right there.

chill, no one said it's illegal. I said games that offer online gambling need to jump through more hoops than other games that don't. It's a fact.

 

+ How is playing the casino & stocks not even close to gambling? Was that sarcastic?

If not here's another fact. You can spend real money to buy GTA$ / gambling chips. That's the only issue, it's not about winning real money, only potentially spending more of it to gamble it away at a virtual casino.

On a lighter note, if the odds were like a real casino I think after a couple rounds you would agree it's a gamble to throw money at the machine, real or fake.

I'm guessing either you haven't gambled(in Vegas or sportsbook) in your life before or you are still in grade school(high school included). It's not even close to gambling with real money...the whole spend REAL $ on GTA is all by CHOICE...you can't win real money in Vegas or on a sportsbook without having REAL $ to begin with. Edited by Non Fiction
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Where do yall come up with this "GTA $ can be bought with real money so it's illegal" statement from? Its not even close to gambling. Can you win real money through GTA??? There's your answer right there.

chill, no one said it's illegal. I said games that offer online gambling need to jump through more hoops than other games that don't. It's a fact.

 

+ How is playing the casino & stocks not even close to gambling? Was that sarcastic?

If not here's another fact. You can spend real money to buy GTA$ / gambling chips. That's the only issue, it's not about winning real money, only potentially spending more of it to gamble it away at a virtual casino.

On a lighter note, if the odds were like a real casino I think after a couple rounds you would agree it's a gamble to throw money at the machine, real or fake.

Not really no. As long as you do not gain any profit (read: real life money) from it this can't be considered gambling

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