Lancerator Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Ryder was nice at the beginning of the game, though I never liked him saying negative comments about CJ, and His missions were kinda useless. Not really useless, he was the main gun supplier of the gang and an OG, he took care of Emmet cheap sh*t and stole some grade-a army sh*t into the gang to make it worth. Honker1944 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDeyMon Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Ryder and cj also went to college toghether though, both dropped out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetectivePhelps Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Ryder is too intelligent for this, A genius. Gotta love it. Honker1944 and ITz_cLaude_bAB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watersgta3 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Ryder and cj also went to college toghether though, both dropped out Actually, they dropped out of high school. Ryder even mentions it in one cutscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watersgta3 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) There's just something that really bothered me about Ryder's attitude in the game. We know that Smoke's betrayal had a lot of hints, but what about Ryder? His dedication to Grove Street seemed pretty genuine compared to Smoke when you look back on it. My question is was he truly down with Grove Street up until his betrayal and only was convinced by Big Smoke later on, or was his "Grove 4 Life" attitude he displayed in the beginning just a way to hide his betrayal and make himself seem more loyal? (if that was the case, he did a much better job at it than Smoke) What do you guys think? Edited January 25, 2017 by watersgta3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfilmpjesmaker123 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 The fact that he betrays you while you've known eacother sice forever makes me hate him. Pulaski is an enemy from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strel0k Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Ryder was a irredeemable even if not because of the treason act, everything he did was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVILLAIN Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Ryder was a irredeemable even if not because of the treason act, everything he did was wrong. and CJ never killed anyone? Super Shizuku 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Ryder was a irredeemable even if not because of the treason act, everything he did was wrong.Lance was the supplier of arms to the Gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul72 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Ryder was a irredeemable even if not because of the treason act, everything he did was wrong. Ryder was just a traitor. That's what made him irredeemable. Seriously though, his betrayal was poorly written. Super Shizuku 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaiv Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I mainly liked Ryder because he looked like Eazy E, lol. I hated Big Smoke way more than Ryder. His betrayal seemed worse. CliGibbs27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead tower Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 ryder is a backstabber who was only in it for the drugs and he also did try to f*ck kendl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korupt Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Ryder is my favourite GTA character. He may like to give CJ a hard time, but he is still his friend after all. I think he was the closest friend to CJ. At that time, Sweet didn't like him returning and kept yelling on him, while Smoke likes to bullsh*t him each time CJ asks about Tenpenny. Plus we never saw CJ joking with Sweet, or Big Smoke, but he does with Ryder in the mission " Robbing Uncle sam" I believe Rockstar had other plans for Ryder . -1 Ryder was meant to die in the mission " the green sabre" there are quotes from the mission " hosue party" that would perfectly fit in that mission like : I will go round up some homies!" That will make sense, Sweet goes to the Mulholland Intersection and gets shot, Ryder goes to Big Smoke house and ballas wait him there and kill him or he gets shot with Sweet and dies, while CJ goes to check César. This would explain why Sweet and CJ never talked about Ryder anymore. -2 Ryder was meant to be with CJ while he goes to SF! makes sense as well. Since most of the story in SF is about yay, Ryder would fit there exactly. He may have connections with drug dealers or something, that would help CJ and César bring down the Loco Syndicate. Ryder doesn't hate CJ, there are a lot of examples where friends like to make fun of each other. If you watched the movie " Boyz n da hood" DoughBoy likes to mock Tre and Rick, but he still hugs them and roll with them. When Ricky died, it was the only scene that shows Dough crying, In the movie " Menace 2 Society', O-DOG always makes fun of Caine, he calls him a lil bitch and all. But he still his best friend, and almost cried when he died. @RYDERNIGGA4LIFEBUSTA CliGibbs27, Honker1944, Shifaau9 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancerator Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) Ryder should've died at The Green Sabre or later in the game. It was impossible for the duo (CJ and Cesar) to have kept Ryder on their side if he wouldn't sell them out as Ryder couldn't fit in, he had the looks of an inbred gangbanger with the "ghetto mentality", besides, Ryder tried to do Kendl. Ryder was nothing but a gang banger. A very-well written and memorable one though Edited August 8, 2017 by SMACKED! CliGibbs27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 No he is not that bad. He is a minor side character to add a little life to the game. CliGibbs27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korupt Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I don't think Ryder was ever "minor" if we look at early magazines and first missions, BS, R and S were equal, it seems rockstar had other plans for him but for some reason scrapped it. CliGibbs27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerpyCake_2005 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Well if you would compare Ryder's actions in the game, he isn't really interested in the Loco Syndicate. He just did it because Smoke asked him, also, Ryder is, as you may already know a busta. Meaning to say that he's doing it either for fame or just to show off. In my point lf view, Rockstar made a terrible decision to make the plot in the game. Now if only there were some "parallel universe" we can go through and play the parallel version of the game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Ryder was disloyal as we all know. But I think he was a great character. Loved the fact the looked like Eazy-E. Also he reminded me of some snakes I know in real life. Self-serving, a little two-faced, stab you in the back, kind of guy. I thought he was believable in his motives and actions. Also MC Eiht's voice-acting is great. He just has a great voice. I also loved the way he broke CJ's balls all the time. It's like the ball-breakers do this to deflect from their own sneakiness and short-comings. I would also be surprised if any of you don't know that Ryder AKA MC Eiht has a track in San Andreas.. Maybe GTA V too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxNsQ31yN7c Edited September 2, 2017 by Mister Pink Am Shaegar and CliGibbs27 2 ＲＵＢＢΣＲ░Ｊ♢ＨＮＮＹ （スオッ） Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korupt Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Yeah MC EIHT had a track in San Andreas, 'the hood they took me under" we can hear it in strip clubs xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Whoa guys, the topic is abut Lance in the game, not voice actors and side business. CliGibbs27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helegad Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Ryder and cj also went to college toghether though, both dropped out Actually, they dropped out of high school. Ryder even mentions it in one cutscene. Actually there's no evidence they even got as far as high school. IIRC "third grade" is mentioned once. Edited September 4, 2017 by Helegad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watersgta3 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Ryder and cj also went to college toghether though, both dropped out Actually, they dropped out of high school. Ryder even mentions it in one cutscene. Actually there's no evidence they even got as far as high school. IIRC "third grade" is mentioned once. "Hey CJ, tell me why I didn't finish high school" Yeah. No evidence whatsoever. (sarcasm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyNapoli Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Ballas King, wise_man, Shifaau9 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliGibbs27 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 11/16/2015 at 10:33 AM, Rocket Skates said: I thought Jeffrey was actually quite funny. Robbing Uncle Sam was annoying though because I used to find using the forklift a pain in the snatch. Agreed. I was so annoyed with the forklift and og joke is actually pretty funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Zedd Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I think ryder is the kind of person that the likes of tenpenny are always looking for an opportunity as easy targets that can be bargained and mainpulated than a person like cj who won't relent and betray their own people, while ryder chose to ally with those who can offer him lots of drugs instead. I don't think ryder was a bad person, he had become too much dependent on drugs, and the only way he can get more drugs was by choosing to side with smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballas King Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I always regret killing him,he doesnt even shoot back at pier 69. he might have been a bad mouth but was always loyal to the family, until house party, when he disappears going to call smoke but never returns for the fight. On 12/12/2016 at 10:38 PM, RedDeyMon said: Ryder and cj also went to college toghether though, both dropped out Ryder didnt even finish school, he dropped out cause of attacking a school teacher for wearing Ballas color and was doing drugs since he was 10 xd. so no idea what you making up lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolototu Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasloye Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 People hate Ryder because they are focusing on his attitude. I think Ryder still treats CJ a friend but in that way since they are childhood friends along with Sweet, Smoke and Jeffrey-I mean- "OG Loc". Rockstar should have made Ryder with CJ and Sweet's side. All of his missions have contributions for the Families. And there is NO PROOF that Ryder betrayed Grove. I wished that Ryder didn't betrayed Grove and stayed on the Johnson brothers' side. Honker1944 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogrom Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Never thought Ryder was a traitor Smoke made him, he had no choice He sincerely wanted to help CJ and had positive feelings for him Honker1944 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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