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Zello

Will we get a GTA with a Mob focus again?

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iiCriminnaaL 49
On 3/29/2020 at 7:09 PM, PaddsterG2k3 said:

Cartels are way underdone in GTA.

The Colombian Cartel and Mendez Cartel were really interesting IMO. Cartels should've been a more significant part of GTA's criminal underworld, especially given how underused they are (especially in GTA V, given the setting).

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The Made Man
38 minutes ago, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:

The Colombian Cartel and Mendez Cartel were really interesting IMO. Cartels should've been a more significant part of GTA's criminal underworld, especially given how underused they are (especially in GTA V, given the setting).

Not only that but they're more relevant to the modern USA's underworld than any other organized crime group. And the Feds/CIA are more focused on taking them down(or working with them). Why didnt GTA V not have that is still a mystery to us. Heck the Cartels are more relevant than freaking militias like Merryweather.... 

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Zello

 

You show up to the construction site one of the no show jobs that you control and pick up some money.

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DeltaV20

@Zello i really wanted to see a dlc like LCS on gta EFLC, Rockstar can make alot great mafia type games meh Take 2 leaved it to 2k games.

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wise_man

IMO, mafia theme should be featured in a standalone expansion/DLC instead of the main title. We already have Mafia to tackle on that theme.

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Zello
1 hour ago, wise_man said:

We already have Mafia to tackle on that theme.

Mafia hardly does a good job just about all of their protagonists hardly enjoy being in the Mafia and Lincoln Clay in Mafia III isn't in the Mafia or a Mobster at all. Also ummm....it's not GTA.

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Utopianthumbs

I always felt the Commission in GTA IV was too exciting to have been unexplored like that, I know GTA don't go for established characters as protagonists but I've always been interested about Sammy Bottino and his adventures running the East Coast in the 80s and 90s and his eventual fate, it seems interesting and a game on similar lines would be cool to play.

 

Though my preference is for us to run our own criminal empire rather than be a made man under a Don, I would be up for a Mafia themed story too cause we've only worked as a hired gun for them and apart from the relatively less popular LCS we didn't have one centred on being part of an organization and rising through its ranks, I guess other game series tackle this but would like to see R* take on this too even if it isn't my first preference for the theme of GTA next

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Orbea Occam

After watching Fear City: New York vs The Mafia - A proper mob theme is what I now want the most. The only games where we have been put in the shoes of an active mob member were Vice City & Liberty City Stories - and they came out damn near 20 years ago now. Obviously the mob had a big presence in GTA IV as well but you only done jobs and errands for them - for me the missions involving Peg, Phil, Ray etc. were some of the most enjoyable parts of the game. 

 

I feel Rockstar have shy'd away from making another game that has a mob theme because maybe they feel it will be cliched or too similar to VC and LCS. But it's been 18 or so years since those games so it would make perfect sense for them to once again make a game thats focused around the mob. If they end up going for a mob theme then I personally would like to see it set in a fictionalised Tri State area with at least two major cities and an expansive rural area in between. 

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Patrizio

A mob focus would be good but I feel its been too recent in IV. As said before, we really need a GTA with a cartel focus. V was a humongous missed opportunity.

 

People argue that an 80s VC couldn't be done again but I feel if Project Americas is true then its ripe for a Cartel feature. Miami in reality had the Trafficante Mafia family and this still be represented.

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Dimitry Rascalov
29 minutes ago, Patrizio said:

A mob focus would be good but I feel its been too recent in IV. As said before, we really need a GTA with a cartel focus. V was a humongous missed opportunity.

 

People argue that an 80s VC couldn't be done again but I feel if Project Americas is true then its ripe for a Cartel feature. Miami in reality had the Trafficante Mafia family and this still be represented.

Well in GTA 4 you were never actually apart of the mob, you were just an errand boy for them on occasion. I think it would be nice to actually start as an associate and get made potentially, then work your way up the chain. I am however with you on the cartel scene, they are heavily underused. What I'd love to see is working your way up through the russian bratva or russian mafiya. They had a far more interesting theme to them, in GTA 4 you had plenty of interactions with them just never got to be a part of them. Theyre also in Vice city as they had drug running operations to LC, with all the stuff added into GTA Online id anticipate a much better experience in single player being able to run night clubs and other illegal businesses with fronts. They kind of set the stage for that, definitely room to improve but its nice to know they've finally added in some of the stuff they kept scrapping like dealing drugs and guns.

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rjmthe2nd

The mob is overrated and were featured in lll, VC, SA, LCS and IV.  If you're clamoring for it you probably never played those games, besides there's always the Mafia franchise 

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Dimitry Rascalov
14 minutes ago, rjmthe2nd said:

The mob is overrated and were featured in lll, VC, SA, LCS and IV.  If you're clamoring for it you probably never played those games, besides there's always the Mafia franchise 

You're welcome to your opinion but I believe its hardly rated at all, just cause they're present in the games doesn't mean they cover them well. I've played every GTA game that's been made all the way back to the very first one and from playing each one none of them really captured the modern day mafia experience. You also really can't use the old games before GTA 4 as they were set in an alternate universe and don't count towards the more modern realistic push rockstar seems to be going for. GTA 4 had a lot of mob influence but you were never really apart of the organization which is  what a lot of people crave that actual experience of being part of a crime family and working in one. The Mafia series does well at least in the first and second games the third one was garbage, but again that's a different time period captured. Overall though I don't think it would matter so much as being in the Italian mafia, Russian Mafiya, Cartels, or just being apart of a crime syndicate people crave more organized crime underworld influence of some sort to be apart of, that's where being a CEO, Biker VP, Gun Runner, all those expansions in GTA Online stem from.

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rjmthe2nd
4 minutes ago, Dimitry Rascalov said:

You're welcome to your opinion but I believe its hardly rated at all, just cause they're present in the games doesn't mean they cover them well. I've played every GTA game that's been made all the way back to the very first one and from playing each one none of them really captured the modern day mafia experience. You also really can't use the old games before GTA 4 as they were set in an alternate universe and don't count towards the more modern realistic push rockstar seems to be going for. GTA 4 had a lot of mob influence but you were never really apart of the organization which is  what a lot of people crave that actual experience of being part of a crime family and working in one. The Mafia series does well at least in the first and second games the third one was garbage, but again that's a different time period captured. Overall though I don't think it would matter so much as being in the Italian mafia, Russian Mafiya, Cartels, or just being apart of a crime syndicate people crave more organized crime underworld influence of some sort to be apart of, that's where being a CEO, Biker VP, Gun Runner, all those expansions in GTA Online stem from.

 

You're being biased, Mafia crime families have been in many GTA games regardless of universe. The mafia is an overrated crime organization In media, the same way vampires are completely overrated and outdated.

 

I'd be anticipating a Mafia IV if I wanted to get my mob guy "fix" 

 

and if VI is in Vice City then you already know what's going to be the focal point.

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Dimitry Rascalov
1 minute ago, rjmthe2nd said:

 

You're being biased, Mafia crime families have been in many GTA games regardless of universe. The mafia is an overrated crime organization In media, the same way vampires are completely overrated and outdated.

Of course im being biased that's my opinion lol but regardless of my "Bias" its going in that direction either way otherwise they wouldn't have put that stuff into GTA online which got amazing reviews for doing so. Also for mafia coverage in the media hasn't been a mass scale deal for decades not since John Gotti, I hear far more about drug cartels than I've heard about a mafia family in the past 10 years. I should also point out that saying its "overrated" is also a bias lol as that's your opinion and tons of people still crave the modern day mafia experience.

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rjmthe2nd
1 hour ago, Dimitry Rascalov said:

Of course im being biased that's my opinion lol but regardless of my "Bias" its going in that direction either way otherwise they wouldn't have put that stuff into GTA online which got amazing reviews for doing so. Also for mafia coverage in the media hasn't been a mass scale deal for decades not since John Gotti, I hear far more about drug cartels than I've heard about a mafia family in the past 10 years. I should also point out that saying its "overrated" is also a bias lol as that's your opinion and tons of people still crave the modern day mafia experience.

 

By biased I'm referring to you loving the mob aesthetic not just your opinion on what the game should be about.

 

Mafia, like vampires are overrated doesn't matter if it has been decades, it's extremely played out, hence why we aren't seeing an excess of mob or vampire related anything

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Dimitry Rascalov
23 minutes ago, rjmthe2nd said:

 

By biased I'm referring to you loving the mob aesthetic not just your opinion on what the game should be about.

 

Mafia, like vampires are overrated doesn't matter if it has been decades, it's extremely played out, hence why we aren't seeing an excess of mob or vampire related anything

Yes again giving an opinion on something is literally in itself a bias as that's my view point on something, I love the mob theme and so do many others or this wouldn't even be a discussion however I'm not obsessed with the italian mafia so much as I am the Russian mob.  Zombies have been "played out" as you put it and yet people are cranking those games out non stop and they still do okay that's not even including the half a dozen zombie shows that also do okay, if there is a market for it then it will always do well. As seen with the latest mob movie The Irishman people absolutely loved that movie, if mob movies were played out then it would have done horribly. You're free to have your preference in not wanting a mob theme but if the masses want it then it will be a possibility lol, the masses of GTA wanted drug trafficking and poof it was put in Online mode, they wanted to run a night club they did that. Kids had an obsession with gang banging life so poof GTA V provided them a fix for that. If it is a mob theme for the next game then great, if its not then great I just prefer they take the route of GTA 4 and make it a gritty story where you can connect with the characters. 

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rjmthe2nd
12 hours ago, Dimitry Rascalov said:

Yes again giving an opinion on something is literally in itself a bias as that's my view point on something, I love the mob theme and so do many others or this wouldn't even be a discussion however I'm not obsessed with the italian mafia so much as I am the Russian mob.  Zombies have been "played out" as you put it and yet people are cranking those games out non stop and they still do okay that's not even including the half a dozen zombie shows that also do okay, if there is a market for it then it will always do well. As seen with the latest mob movie The Irishman people absolutely loved that movie, if mob movies were played out then it would have done horribly. You're free to have your preference in not wanting a mob theme but if the masses want it then it will be a possibility lol, the masses of GTA wanted drug trafficking and poof it was put in Online mode, they wanted to run a night club they did that. Kids had an obsession with gang banging life so poof GTA V provided them a fix for that. If it is a mob theme for the next game then great, if its not then great I just prefer they take the route of GTA 4 and make it a gritty story where you can connect with the characters. 

 

 

Skimmed through your post, doesn't matter at the end of the day we won't see a mob focused GTA ever again. I don't even know why you started to interact with me lol

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Dimitry Rascalov
1 minute ago, rjmthe2nd said:

 

 

Skimmed through your post, doesn't matter at the end of the day we won't see a mob focused GTA ever again. I don't even know why you started to interact with me lol

And again that's your opinion as you can't predict due certainty

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rjmthe2nd
2 minutes ago, Dimitry Rascalov said:

And again that's your opinion as you can't predict due certainty

 

Of course, I just have a feeling it won't be focused on the mafia. 

 

especially after GTA V.

 

 

As I said before, you have a better shot at getting this in a Mafia IV.

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Dimitry Rascalov

GTA V had nothing to do with the mafia because of the location, the mafia don't operate in California so it makes sense they wouldn't be there, I'm not sure how you some how came to the conclusion it'll never happen cause of GTA V. They do operate in Florida, Chicago, Vegas and several other places on the east coast. Mafia 4 wouldn't be a guarantee either as 3 had very little to do with the mafia and more to do with stupid time period nonsense like fighting the KKK, Vietnam crap, and doing CIA nonsense lol. Depending on where the game is set would determine their influence in the story.

 

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KingAJ032304

If it's mob focused I hope is stay as far from Liberty City simply because if every GTA is going to take 10+ years to make, I Really don't want to waste it on LC again.

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éX-Driver

If it’s Liberty City, it should be the Irish mob. If it’s Vice City, it should be some south american cartel. If it’s Las Venturas/Carcer, it should be the Italian mafia.  If it’s San Fierro, it should be the Triads.

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