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Zello

Will we get a GTA with a Mob focus again?

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Cheatz/Trickz

I prefer a protagonist with no allegiances to any one organisation. Mobsters are so pretentious, it is always better to be the guy who will happily do their dirty work for money but is not about to be swept up in all their personal politics. 

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Zello
3 hours ago, Cheatz/Trickz said:

Mobsters are so pretentious, it is always better to be the guy who will happily do their dirty work for money but is not about to be swept up in all their personal politics. 

The personal politics is what makes the Mafia interesting though.

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ROCKSTAR MANIC

As much as I love mob inspired plots or themes. I think R* should get with the times and implement a more modern organized crime theme. Yes, there was in IV and V. IV was more of the old school tradition while V had only a small glimpse of organized crime.

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Cheatz/Trickz
2 hours ago, Zello said:

The personal politics is what makes the Mafia interesting though.

True and the Sopranos is one of the best shows, but I prefer protagonists who see through it all and not get caught up in those politics.  

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the consigliere

Working as a 'soldier' or a hired gun would be the most fun and applicable to gta, higher up mob guys wouldn't be taking all the risk as you do in gta missions. 

 

Also working with/for a variety of criminal organisations sounds good to me, not just one. 

 

But yeah hopefully this is a direction they go toward instead of more government crap. 

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el carlitos

Cartel is the new Mob.

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Mister Pink
On 5/13/2019 at 6:21 PM, Zello said:

The personal politics is what makes the Mafia interesting though.

Absolutely. Yeah the politics are interesting. Nobody sees through it all like the other chap suggested. It affects them all. You have to play the game to move up the chain. And it can be really dirty. Love the power moves. The who is next in line etc etc and how the politics effects relationships and exciting business deals, especially between families like in the Sopranos how Johnny Sachs and Phil Leotardos power vacuum and destabilisation leading to the war between New York and New Jersey. 

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Zello

A two city game could work with the Mafia.

 

You're a mobster from Carcer and the family sends you down to Venturas to handle it's Casino operations. You travel between the two cities.

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TheSantader25
2 minutes ago, Zello said:

A two city game could work with the Mafia.

 

You're a mobster from Carcer and the family sends you down to Venturas to handle it's Casino operations. You travel between the two cities.

Is your name also Nicky? 

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Zello
1 minute ago, TheSantader25 said:

Is your name also Nicky? 

I'd like a combo of Nicky and Ray Luca.

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SonnyNapoli

Fughettaboutit!

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Zello
On 6/8/2019 at 9:14 AM, SonnyNapoli said:

Fughettaboutit!

Go home and get your shinebox.

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ichizuzu

I wouldn't want a mob focused storyline unless it was a period piece or unless they go the GTA 3 route and totally divorce the game world from reality and what I mean by that is; no mention of real life people or celebs, no current issues political satire, no cutting edge tributes to television shows or movies that were released in the last few years. GTA 3 was more of an overall satire of American culture and media and how outsiders view it. It wasn't necessarily specific to a certain place or time period. It wasn't realistic and wasn't meant to be so having stereotypical mafia goons walk around with fully automatic combat shotguns and engaging in shootouts with overall clad Triad members wasn't really something that felt out-of-place.

 

They couldn't do a contemporary mafia story if they are going to rely too much on satirizing the current state of the U.S. because, frankly, the mafia has no real relevance as a criminal network or as a source for popular culture anymore. However, if they went back to their early 3D era roots I believe they could pull it off.

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Zello
On 7/22/2019 at 2:57 PM, ichizuzu said:

They couldn't do a contemporary mafia story if they are going to rely too much on satirizing the current state of the U.S. because, frankly, the mafia has no real relevance as a criminal network or as a source for popular culture anymore. However, if they went back to their early 3D era roots I believe they could pull it off.

Thats why we need a game set in the past. Back when the Mafia had power.

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Max.pain

absolutely would like to see. lcs was awesome at this and toni was an awesome guy for such a game as well.

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Viceportcoke

When you say mob focus are you just speaking of just the Italians? Or mob as in any mob? Cartels, russian mob, yakuza etc... I would like to see rockstars take on the cartel orginization. I mean have you guys been seeing whats going on with the mexican cartels lately. Reading the news about them is like a script out of a movie.

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Zello
32 minutes ago, Viceportcoke said:

When you say mob focus are you just speaking of just the Italians? Or mob as in any mob? Cartels, russian mob, yakuza etc... I would like to see rockstars take on the cartel orginization. I mean have you guys been seeing whats going on with the mexican cartels lately. Reading the news about them is like a script out of a movie.

The Italian American Mafia 

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knoteven
On 10/30/2015 at 11:57 AM, American Viking said:

I've been wondering the same thing for years Zello. While GTA has always touched on the Mafia, never have they gone so in depth that we felt apart of the Mobster lifestyle. GTA IV was pretty good about it getting us involved with em, but we were still just a fresh off the boat killer. I think the problem lies in the unavoidable comparisons to the Godfather and Mafia games, as well as the fact that if they went classic Mafia with it they would need to reinvent many aspects of GTA to fit the time frame, but I wouldn't want to play as the Mafia in current times. That said, sooner or later they'll get back around to it but if GTA V proved anything, it's that they're trying to take a break from the typical theme of GTA.

Gta liberty city stories was very mob focused as you played as made man Toni Cipriani who worked for the Leone family. But since then I agree there hasn't been much around it not in HD universe at least.

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billiejoearmstrong8

I've had enough of Italian mafia in GTA to be honest, been there done that. A focus on crime/organised crime yes please, and maybe the mob could be involved in some way, but I'd rather it wasn't the main focus and not to play as an Italian mobster again. Playing as either a member of another type of gang or a criminal not affiliated to a gang would be preferable. 

 

Mob focused would still be better than government agency focused though, anything but that.

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Zello
On 11/4/2019 at 11:31 PM, knoteven said:

Gta liberty city stories was very mob focused as you played as made man Toni Cipriani who worked for the Leone family. But since then I agree there hasn't been much around it not in HD universe at least.

Toni Cipriani didn't feel like a mobster at all 

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His relationship with Salvatore was like Smithers and Mr. Burns.

 

 

Not to mention once he became a Made man the game was the same. Made man status elevates you in the Mafia. It's kinda like making Partner at a big law firm, at one of the big 4 accounting firms, or at the investment banks. 

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Zello
On 5/17/2019 at 3:48 AM, Mister Pink said:

Absolutely. Yeah the politics are interesting. Nobody sees through it all like the other chap suggested. It affects them all. You have to play the game to move up the chain. And it can be really dirty. Love the power moves. The who is next in line etc etc and how the politics effects relationships and exciting business deals, especially between families like in the Sopranos how Johnny Sachs and Phil Leotardos power vacuum and destabilisation leading to the war between New York and New Jersey. 

and the snitching. When guys started ratting out to the feds you knew it wouldn't end well sometimes it was heartbreaking.

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Zello
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I'd like to see a game in the Midwest. Usually a lot of games and TV shows/movies focuses on the New York and east coast Mafia families. I'd like to see a game in Carcer City based on Kansas City I know it's not the most attractive place if not Kansas City, Detroit or Chicago could work.

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The Made Man
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Please no! f*ck no! If the Italian mafia is the focus of this next GTA game then I'm not bothering picking it up. f*ck that. Why are some people on this site so obsessed with the Italian Mafia? The Italian Mafia has appeared in GTA 3, had a big role in Vice City, appeared in GTA SA, had another giant role in LCS, had another giant role in GTA 4, had another role in GTA TLAD and had another big role in GTA TBOGT. Seriously, we complain about V but no Italian mafia was a big fresh air.

 

What makes it worse is that the Italian mafia is already oversaturated in American popular culture whether it be TV shows or Films. You want Italian mobs? Then wait for Mafia 3. Mexican and South American drug cartels are more relevant in the underworld today here in America and yet Rockstar still has not given them proper attention in the HD universe and they are deserving of one. Especially with shows like Narcos, El Chapo, Hip Hop shoutouts, etc. They have been appearing in the news rapidly since 2008 and the drug war has reintensified. Italian mafia for what? Mexican, South American and Caribbean drug groups need their shine now. And I find them much more interesting than the Italian mafia. I pray to God GTA VI is not Italian mob focused my head is already hurting. Modern Latin American and Caribbean drug groups we have yet to have a GTA story on them in GTA.

 

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Is this the reason why some of you want a past setting??

On 10/30/2015 at 8:47 PM, El Tigre chino said:

Don't you think it's unrealistic for some mafia goon now to be involved in shootouts drive reckless without his boss getting mad and contemplating "whacking"him The mob ain't like those low budget movies you see on Netflix now days are they are trying to keep as much quiet as they can be that trying to make money sports betting they don't whack people as much because it's too much heat from the Feds American pop culture is obsess with them as for the question do I think rockstar could pull it off? Yes but it have to work with the "new" mafia meaning not Italian meaning you have to kick up money to the boss and hope to become him one day

Heck here in NYC the mafia barely exists. They been pushed into Staten Island(which didn't even exist in IV) and the Bronx. Don't get me wrong they do some hits but most of them are very old and try and keep quiet. They hardly try and get violent. NYPD have been doing rico cases against STREET gangs. So you can imagine how scared the mob are. When it comes to organized crime here in NYC you hear more about the Chinese and Albanian criminals. Especially regards to human/sex trafficking. 

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The Made Man

And to be clear I'm also tired of the Black street gang banging topic too(I love it btw  and I'm also BLACK but..... We need to explore a different topic). Now I would've mind a Black drug dealing type organization like Playboy X crew from IV or Black Mafia Family. Those two don't "gang bang" but are more focused on drugs and making money. 

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iiCriminnaaL 49
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8 minutes ago, The Made Man said:

And to be clear I'm also tired of the Black street gang banging topic too(I love it btw  and I'm also BLACK but..... We need to explore a different topic). Now I would've mind a Black drug dealing type organization like Playboy X crew from IV or Black Mafia Family. Those two don't "gang bang" but are more focused on drugs and making money. 

Does it exist in real life? I haven't heard of it before, but I guess it would be really refreshing and interesting to cover.

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The Made Man
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7 minutes ago, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:

Does it exist in real life? I haven't heard of it before, but I guess it would be really refreshing and interesting to cover

Yes, it existed in real life. Two brothers from Detroit who moved to Atlanta and established a drug organization. And had contacts with Mexican cartels. 

 

 

They are to this day very infamous in Atlanta even among rappers. And had close connections with Mexican cartel cells. This is why many ATL rappers shout out Mexicans. And yes BMF was very rich but too flashy. And yes, Black American organized drug crews DO exist but they are very lowkey and don't flash like BMF. And yes, they are even in the rap game. You can find them in places like Atlanta, Miami, Detroit, Houston, Baltimore and other cities not LA or NYC. 

 

Black American kingpins/hustlers is another topic GTA hardly explored. I was VERY excited with Playboy X and Dwayne because they were that. Like for example J Prince in Houston who is said to be a scary dude but on the surface he looks like a regular businessman. Again, this is something GTA/Rockstar hardly touched. Hustling/Drug kingpin Black American crews. 

 

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Algonquin Assassin
43 minutes ago, The Made Man said:

Please no! f*ck no! If the Italian mafia is the focus of this next GTA game then I'm not bothering picking it up. f*ck that. Why are some people on this site so obsessed with the Italian Mafia? 


No offence, but isn’t that a little ironic coming from someone with the username “The Made Man”?😛

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The Made Man
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3 minutes ago, SonOfLiberty said:


No offence, but isn’t that a little ironic coming from someone with the username “The Made Man”?😛

It is. That was the time when I was obsessed with the Sopranos. And none offense taken.

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Patrizio

Regarding black mafias - also see people like Bumpy Johnson, Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes.

 

Regarding the Mafia - it’s been way overdone. As the Made Man said - Cartels are way underdone in GTA. The only way I’d accept the Mafia is seeing the real Italian ones - not their American counterparts.

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