Niobium 11,807 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 fight club is much more fitting in TLAD with the hardcore biker scene and death metal than it is with the partying and expensive cars. johnny even says he loves brawling. so why is fight club in TBOGT instead of TLAD? my guess is that fight club was being made for TLAD but they decided to scrap it, and then later decided to bring it back for TBOGT. pxoesijwr, Eliz, fefenc and 5 others 8 Link to post Share on other sites
PhillBellic 24,575 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Why not have it in both. However have TLAD's Fight Club in a different Location, perhaps somewhere in the Acter Industrial Park, or Tudor Regions? Ivan1997GTA 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Femme Fatale 10,212 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing... gooeyhole 1 Link to post Share on other sites
UshaB 3,751 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 It makes sense for both. TLAD being more of a brawling type of thang. I still feel it fits better in TBOGT (not because of it's colourful theme) because of the protagonist, Luis. A dude with a lean muscular physique who got big in prison to fend off other inmates. He seems like the healthier athletic type that can perform fighting movements, so it feels suited for him more plus he's got those canon kickboxing skills. It also kinda makes sense for Johnny to go all out brawling though. Thelema93 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Xing of Virtue 1,540 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I wish the nightclubs were open in TLAD. theGTAking101 1 Link to post Share on other sites
UshaB 3,751 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I wish the nightclubs were open in TLAD. That wouldn't really seem to fit. Unless they sold drugs to the happy party goers. Did I just make a generalised accusation? Anyway, that's what I think. Link to post Share on other sites
B Dawg 10,421 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I wish the nightclubs were open in TLAD. Only if you have to throw bombs/shoot everyone up inside for a mission. Also yeah, would have loved Cage Fighting in TLAD. I'd do it in TBOGT more often, but when you switch models via SNT, your character can't do combos. Link to post Share on other sites
Gummy 3,532 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I could see fight clubs in TLaD fitting well, maybe in an abandoned subway station or something. Link to post Share on other sites
slimeball supreme 9,445 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I mean, Luis did Cage Fighting. Johnny didn't. It's there because it's part of the story. I could see bar fights working, but not cage fighting. Betting on which biker comes out on top in a no hold barred bar fight. The Dedito Gae, Hybrid_Punk and UshaB 3 Link to post Share on other sites
El Tigre chino 1,245 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 But Johnny has been in too many motorcycle accidents to be fighting hes too frail and broken from his past experiences BlackSnow176 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thafablifee46 983 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 yeah they could have fighting in the clubhouse, either at the bar or in the cage. even though johnny would get his sh*t kicked in lol but it definently fits the theme Link to post Share on other sites
BlackSnow176 1,057 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) I never got the "fighter" vibe from Johnny, even though he shared the same fighting moves as Niko and Luis. He's tough, but in my opinion, as a character, he wouldn't last long in the cage fights, especially in later stages. Plus his bike injuries (he walks with a slight limp and sprints slower than Niko and Luis) make all the MMA stuff ridiculous when he counters with a kick to the head or a spinning punch. Edited October 23, 2015 by BlackSnow176 Hybrid_Punk, UshaB, HoleInTheSky and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites
The Dedito Gae 28,422 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) I never got the "fighter" vibe from Johnny, even though he shared the same fighting moves as Niko and Luis. He's tough, but in my opinion, as a character, he wouldn't last long in the cage fights, especially in later stages. Plus his bike injuries (he walks with a slight limp and sprints slower than Niko and Luis) make all the MMA stuff ridiculous when he counters with a kick to the head or a spinning punch.I agree (with Johnny looking ridiculous pulling the moves of Niko, he would pwn everyone in a cage match, mind you), i can somewhat accept Luis sharing the moveset of Niko, but i can't see Johnny doing highkicks and roundhouses, he should had gotten a different fighting style, like grapples, breaking necks and such. Edited October 23, 2015 by Midnight Hitman Hybrid_Punk, UshaB and Payne Killer 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ClaudX 5,750 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 According to TCRF, it was originally supposed to be in The Lost and Damned. https://tcrf.net/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV_%28Windows%29/Cut_DLC_Content#Cut_Features Niobium 1 Link to post Share on other sites
UshaB 3,751 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 he should had gotten a different fighting style, like grapples, breaking necks and such. We all know what Rockstar's like when it comes to melee combat. All character's needed separate styles. It can't be that hard to change could it? I mean modders can do it why can't R* do it. Payne Killer and BlackSnow176 2 Link to post Share on other sites
woggleman 3,946 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Cage matches would have fit all three in the IV trilogy. Hybrid_Punk and gooeyhole 2 Link to post Share on other sites
gooeyhole 3,852 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Cage matches would have fit all three in the IV trilogy. Imagine a fight club (lol) story arc. Payne Killer 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ClaudX 5,750 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 If it were in all three, it would be weird casually fighting Luis after the incident at the museum. UshaB 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PhillBellic 24,575 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Would you guys think Niko would be into Fight Clubs? Link to post Share on other sites
B Dawg 10,421 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Would you guys think Niko would be into Fight Clubs? Yes, with Brucie cheering! Niobium 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrid_Punk 3,710 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Would you guys think Niko would be into Fight Clubs? If it paid well, most definitely. Link to post Share on other sites
slimeball supreme 9,445 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Would you guys think Niko would be into Fight Clubs? Yes, with Brucie cheering!"C'mon, Nikky! You're a winner, genetically superior. If you can't beat this guy - nobody can!" B Dawg, American Viking, PhillBellic and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites
American Viking 1,627 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I too think that a fight club of sorts would've been better placed in TLaD. It would've been great to be able to compete in cage fights right there in the clubhouse...hell, we could travel to other clubhouses and fight their champions too. I can see Johnny competing or prizes...maybe a new bike or a military grade weapon. The only issue I have with that is that Johnny is a little disabled. I'm sure he could win a few of the lower tier fights but he's in no condition to be fighting champions. I always felt the fight club in TBoGT was just out of place. Luis never struck me as someone who would use his time to compete in such a thing. He always struck me as a pretty boy, ladies man who would be big on the club scene. UshaB 1 Link to post Share on other sites
UshaB 3,751 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Luis always struck me as a pretty boy, ladies man who would be big on the club scene. "Never underestimate your opponent". But I can see what your saying. American Viking 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GTA-Biker 6,340 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Yeah,I agree that cage fighting would fit the gritty themes of TLAD and GTA 4,probably better than TBOGT (which is mostly about luxury lifestyle,night clubs and partying).I even remember seeing some of the cage fighters that use character models of bikers,so cage fighting isn´t something unknown to Liberty City biker gangs.And also,while Johnny does have some problems with running because of his bike accidents,that doesn´t mean he´s not a tough fighter,and according to some of his dialogue he has experience in brawling. Another thing that I think should have been done differently is that each protagonist should have his own fighting style (those military-style fighting moves and weapon disarms fit Niko well since he´s a former soldier,but they look weird when performed by an outlaw biker or a night club bouncer),but for some reason R* repeated the same mistake in GTA 5 too. Edited October 29, 2015 by LeopardGecko UshaB 1 Link to post Share on other sites
UshaB 3,751 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Another thing that I think should have been done differently is that each protagonist should have his own fighting style That is my only dream in a gta game.................. American Viking, GTA-Biker and Jeansowaty 3 Link to post Share on other sites
American Viking 1,627 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Another thing that I think should have been done differently is that each protagonist should have his own fighting style That is my only dream in a gta game.................. Each character needs their own animation for EVERYTHING if Rockstar really wants to make them unique. UshaB 1 Link to post Share on other sites
UshaB 3,751 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I know man, I don't understand why they haven't even considered it. But other than that I just want a gta protag with some slick mma skills to pay da billz! Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Grey 727 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) The cage fights would really suit Johnny's lifestyle, we see him in alot of gun fights with the AOD and he fits right in and we see Angels of Death members in cage fights in TBoGT. What says he wouldnt be apart of that because he mentions he likes to fight at random times in the game he even might compete for money and a good time and would make TLAD more fun as it already is with the gang wars and illegal street races. Edited January 4, 2016 by Jason Grey Niobium 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Algonquin Assassin 51,126 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I think cage fights were fine for Luis due to his underground fight experience. What TLAD should've had was parking lot brawls where instead of being confined in a cage you're surrounded by bikers and their bikes that could be used as weapons. This also could've introduced a chain as a weapon. Link to post Share on other sites
