Official PC Gamers Topic V3

[mkey82]

All of those who don't care about R* crippled ports anymore, be it GTA or RDR say "I".

 

I.

[CharmingCharlie]

 

i think everybody wants rdr to go to pc apart from gay ps3 and xbox fanboys

I must be a gay PS3/Xbox fanboy then because I don't particularly want Rockstar anywhere near the PC platform till they take a course called "introductory programming". You just have to look at all the complaints console users have had regarding RDR on their platform to know that the PC version would be a complete and utter mess, especially given Rockstars track history on the PC.

 

I also think it is pretty damn insulting that the PC platform gets the crumbs from Rockstars table. Do I want RDR on the PC, erm no thanks. Right at this moment I am on the fence as to whether I will even bother with the next GTA when they bring it to the PC. I don't think PC gamers should have to put up with this "released a year later" rubbish when you have developers like Avalanche (Just Cause 2 developers) that managed to bring a fantastically competent product to the PC, PS3 and Xbox 360 at the same time. Now if a studio like Avalanche can do it then there is no excuse for Rockstar not doing it either.

 

 

All of those who don't care about R* crippled ports anymore, be it GTA or RDR say "I".

 

I.

Oh yeah and "I"

Edited August 8, 2010 by CharmingCharlie

[Reconite]

All of those who don't care about R* crippled ports anymore, be it GTA or RDR say "I".

 

I.

I played it on 360 anyway, before I got rid of it.

[Sunrise Driver]

 

i think everybody wants rdr to go to pc apart from gay ps3 and xbox fanboys

You think right but smth tells me that RDR isn't so great as Bully or GTA or Midnight Club.

 

I still want it on the PC.

Edited August 8, 2010 by Street Mix

[The-King]

To everyone who doesn't want RDR on the PC I have a few words for you. Suck a nice, firm dick.

 

A broken game is better than no game, anyone who disagrees with that has no right to call themselves a gamer. I'd much rather have to opportunity to play a half broken game with a fantastic story through and through than never get to play that game in it's proper capacity *cough* modded Oblivion *cough*. RDR is pretty much guaranteed stacks of GoTY awards because it is easily one of the most fantastic games ever released, and I for one am dying to see what the game's full graphical potential is. Playing it for several hours last night at a friends house my deepest impression of it, besides it being mind blowingly fantastic is that it needs a PC facelift, badly. I noticed a severe lack of AA/AS at 1080p and it was pretty nasty looking to say the least. DX11 and AA/AS could take what's already one of the prettiest games I've ever played and put it on a whole new level.

 

Quit with the petty, hurr hurr R* is f*cking PC gamers over bullsh*t and grow the f*ck up. What's the f*ck is the point in discussing not doing something? That's akin to driving to work to tell your boss you're not going to come in today because you're sick and bed-ridden. Christ in a f*cking basket, everyone on this forum's heard it so many times I'm not hesitant in the slightest to compare you to Jehovah's f*cking witnesses, you don't realize that no one cares about your stupid whiny ass religion and it doesn't help when you knock on their doors in the middle of watching a movie, eating dinner and fingering your dog; a perfect moment ruined by a couple ego-ridden, opinion slinging, idiots.

[Zook]

perhaps not stunning but I find the Just Cause 2 graphics to be pretty amazing, especially draw distance. *drools*

You know the trees are in 2d they just face you. If you can get it right you can see it happening in a helicopter

[IVSA_Guy]

 

Anyone hoping RDR comes to PC?

Me, yes.

That game seems to be fun to play.

Too bad I dont have a console but I dont want to have one.

I love my PC and PC gaming like the other guy said in orevious page.

RDR is not like cities so that game might run very well on mid end PC.

Its not like GTA IV with all the 1000's things on screens and pure ragdoll Euphoria.

Shooting like jackass to anwhere and everywhere, ftw LOL

Or like The Bad, The Good and The Ugly

 

And cheers to the PC Gaming

i think everybody wants rdr to go to pc apart from gay ps3 and xbox fanboys

I think the same lol

 

And @CharmingCharlie,

for an old man you complain and whine alot.

Sure the workers at R* are big bunches of jackasses and pussies but there is nothing you can do.

Unless you get some 10 kilo C4 and TNT and walking into their studio

and blow yourself and others to death.

Maybe they will learn their lesson then.

Otherwise, complaining doesnt help.

Better have a broken game for PC than nothing.

And get rid of patches 5-7

Edited August 8, 2010 by IVSA_Guy

[mkey82]

 

i think everybody wants rdr to go to pc apart from gay ps3 and xbox fanboys

You think right but smth tells me that RDR isn't so great as Bully or GTA or Midnight Club.

RDR is definitively better then Bully (IMO terrible), haven't played Midnight club.

 

RDR is an open ended title placed on a rather huge map with the western setting (which I personally am not crazy about, so there's a bit of bias surely). From what I saw, the story is half baked, the voice acting is not on par with GTA and the lead character left a lot to be desired, similar to GTAIV. The atmosphere in the game is OK and one thing many shat all over in SA, the "empty" map doesn't seem to be that big of an issue in RDR. Obviously, in such setting it doesn't stand out, as there were loads of deserts and mountains, generally open areas on the wild wild west so it only makes sense. Call of juarez had many things done better then RDR, with the exception of things like practically broken gameplay mechanics and horse riding which in COJ sucked ass. Generally the game on PS3 for me looked ghastly, low detail and a lot of FPS issues especially in some towns. Generally I expected a longer game, in the GTA tradition but it was quite short and not that difficult. One way to look at it would be, maybe they wanted to avoid repetitiveness so the same types of missions don't get regurgitated every once in while and in this case they succeeded.

 

That's my opinion anyways.

 

 

I'd much rather have to opportunity to play a half broken game

Thanks to the likes of you, R* doesn't see any reason to change their tactics.

[CharmingCharlie]

 

To everyone who doesn't want RDR on the PC I have a few words for you. Suck a nice, firm dick.

I would hate to deprive you of your hobby The-King

 

 

I noticed a severe lack of AA/AS at 1080p and it was pretty nasty looking to say the least. DX11 and AA/AS could take what's already one of the prettiest games I've ever played and put it on a whole new level.

You know what that is precisely what you WOULD NOT GET, you would get a quick cheap Dx9 Xbox 360 port. So you can dream about Dx11 and AA/AS all you like but you aren't going to get that in RDR on the PC because all Rockstar will do is the bare minimum work to get the game "running" on a PC.

 

 

Blah blah Jehovah's witness blah blah rant rant blah blah, insult insult blah blah.

If you like RDR that much then buy a console, by the sounds of it you aren't that far removed from a console gamer judging by your post.

 

 

And @CharmingCharlie,

for an old man you complain and whine alot.

Sure the workers at R* are big bunches of jackasses and pussies but there is nothing you can do.

Unless you get some 10 kilo C4 and TNT and walking into their studio

and blow yourself and others to death.

Maybe they will learn their lesson then.

Otherwise, complaining doesnt help.

Better have a broken game for PC than nothing.

And get rid of patches 5-7

 

Says the guy that just spent most of the post calling Rockstar Jackasses and pussies and moans they should get rid of patches 5 -7. Hm not the only one here doing the complaining then am I ? If you think it is better to have a broken game than no game at all then there is just no reasoning with someone that thinks that. That is just so far beyond common sense it is quite moronic, I have no doubt if RDR ever did come to the PC you would be right at the front of the queue bitching, moaning and whining that the game doesn't run well.

[Rockworm]

To everyone who doesn't want RDR on the PC I have a few words for you. Suck a nice, firm dick.

 

A broken game is better than no game, anyone who disagrees with that has no right to call themselves a gamer.

I'm sorry but this view point is the reason we got sh*t like E.T. on the Atari or Superman 64. Seriously are you saying that if it was worse than those games than RDR on the PC would be acceptable to you? I'm sorry but there is no reason we should ever accept a broken game period.

 

 

anyway I just go Fallout 3 on my PC.... Losing f*cking sleep over this baby its making me forget all my other games and damn it looks just awesome.

[The-King]

Blah blah Jehovah's witness blah blah rant rant blah blah, insult insult blah blah.

If you like RDR that much then buy a console, by the sounds of it you aren't that far removed from a console gamer judging by your post.

What? Because I'm not going to simply close my mind to a game because everybody else in my circle of interests is circle-jerking about it being terrible and/or having the potential to be terrible? I'll never go off on a tangent calling something horrible when it hasn't even been announced, it's just a stupid thing to do, period. Why should I have to act like a pessimistic old codger because I'm a PC gamer, I try to take everything with a optimistically-realist tinge, anything less and I'd feel like I wasn't giving my all to being a gamer. Sure, I can bitch about something I don't like in a game's preview, but in the end I'll still hold high hopes for the game until the moment I play it.

 

Speculation is one thing, but constant, incessant bitching is f*cking irritating.

[GritEngine]

Ummmmm, just to be sure everyone knows here and we can all be on the same page and stop making things up and ignoring the signs that showed RDR was troubled before it even came out, RDR is only a bad game because of the people who made it... that is the same seemingly incompetent bunch that brought work home and hated their job instead of get a new one to the point their wives wrote open letters blaming rockstar for their men being unable to cut it in Triple AAA game space - as RDR's state on release clearly shows.

 

Toronto would port that sh*t nicely and it would come with all the fixes that RDR did already to Rage compared to GTA IV. It would be awesome, and if the next GTA is coming to PC, they might as well port that, it's half the job anyway.

 

And anyone who has a problem with rockstar, in all honesty, with all the other more broad gaming forums, if you hate rockstar, why are you here?

 

I'm here because I like rockstar and I am a pc gamer, internet savvy kind of guy. That's why I'm here.

[Sunrise Driver]

If you don't care about R* games and other "non-true PC games" it doesn't mean that all don't.

 

I agree with The-King: I prefer "half-broken" Bully and GTA IV to well-optimized FEAR 2, AvP 2010, DMC4, MW2 etc. (nothing good besides optimization).

 

Also: before saying that PC games from R* suck look at console versions - sh*t graphics and also some bugs. GTA VCS has more glitches than GTA IV PC without patches. And VCS still better than 95% of games.

 

 

If you like RDR that much then buy a console

Wow, advice from a PC gamer. Nice job. The game is out only for 2.5 month and nothing is known yet.

Edited August 8, 2010 by Street Mix

[IVSA_Guy]

To everyone who doesn't want RDR on the PC I have a few words for you. Suck a nice, firm dick.

I would hate to deprive you of your hobby The-King

 

 

I noticed a severe lack of AA/AS at 1080p and it was pretty nasty looking to say the least. DX11 and AA/AS could take what's already one of the prettiest games I've ever played and put it on a whole new level.

You know what that is precisely what you WOULD NOT GET, you would get a quick cheap Dx9 Xbox 360 port. So you can dream about Dx11 and AA/AS all you like but you aren't going to get that in RDR on the PC because all Rockstar will do is the bare minimum work to get the game "running" on a PC.

 

 

Blah blah Jehovah's witness blah blah rant rant blah blah, insult insult blah blah.

If you like RDR that much then buy a console, by the sounds of it you aren't that far removed from a console gamer judging by your post.

 

 

And @CharmingCharlie,

for an old man you complain and whine alot.

Sure the workers at R* are big bunches of jackasses and pussies but there is nothing you can do.

Unless you get some 10 kilo C4 and TNT and walking into their studio

and blow yourself and others to death.

Maybe they will learn their lesson then.

Otherwise, complaining doesnt help.

Better have a broken game for PC than nothing.

And get rid of patches 5-7

 

Says the guy that just spent most of the post calling Rockstar Jackasses and pussies and moans they should get rid of patches 5 -7. Hm not the only one here doing the complaining then am I ? If you think it is better to have a broken game than no game at all then there is just no reasoning with someone that thinks that. That is just so far beyond common sense it is quite moronic, I have no doubt if RDR ever did come to the PC you would be right at the front of the queue bitching, moaning and whining that the game doesn't run well.

Sure we all complains and whine about them.

And Im whining about R* Toronto, not R* North.

So Toronto needs to get their sh*t thogheter and fix these crap we all

experiences about GTA4.

But they give up after patch 7.

Next GTA game and RDR should seriousley be ported to PC BY R* NORTH.

Toronto is full of morons wich only cares about some few $$$

Its a big mistake from North only doing the converting job by Toronto.

GTA4 PC makes Toronto lose money, now they loose our faith too.

 

I read Bully is a sh*tily optimised game too?

And R* London is again a bunch of idiotic morons.

 

So, in these cases, R* North is the best.

Like how they did with SA.

Ofcourse in 2005 there were no high-end PC's but that game RUNS on Intel chipsets.

 

And now the apes at R* Toronto should be fired and get a job at garbage truckdrivers.

 

[CharmingCharlie]

 

What? Because I'm not going to simply close my mind to a game because everybody else in my circle of interests is circle-jerking about it being terrible and/or having the potential to be terrible? I'll never go off on a tangent calling something horrible when it hasn't even been announced, it's just a stupid thing to do, period. Why should I have to act like a pessimistic old codger because I'm a PC gamer, I try to take everything with a optimistically-realist tinge, anything less and I'd feel like I wasn't giving my all to being a gamer. Sure, I can bitch about something I don't like in a game's preview, but in the end I'll still hold high hopes for the game until the moment I play it.

 

Speculation is one thing, but constant, incessant bitching is f*cking irritating.

Well you seem to be pretty closed minded with regards to playing RDR on the console, if you think RDR is such a fantastic game then I really cannot understand why you are sitting around waiting and hoping for a PC version, after all you are a "gamer" aren't you ? I mean you being a "gamer" means you don't care what platform the game is on, all you are meant to care about is the "game".

 

As for me being a "pessimistic old codger" I prefer to think of my self as a realist, you just need to look at Rockstars history to see that they have never devoted anything but the bare minimum resources to bringing their products to the PC. I do not see any reason why that should change for RDR especially when there is no proven market for RDR on the PC unlike there was for GTA 4.

 

 

Toronto would port that sh*t nicely and it would come with all the fixes that RDR did already to Rage compared to GTA IV. It would be awesome, and if the next GTA is coming to PC, they might as well port that, it's half the job anyway.

Where is your proof that Toronto would "port that sh*t nicely" ? It has been over two years and they still haven't got GTA 4 working properly but all of a sudden a miracle happens and they can port RDR perfectly.

 

 

And anyone who has a problem with rockstar, in all honesty, with all the other more broad gaming forums, if you hate rockstar, why are you here?

 

I'm here because I like rockstar and I am a pc gamer, internet savvy kind of guy. That's why I'm here.

I am here because I used to be a huge Rockstar fan and I like these forums so I post here. Now last time I checked this is the general gaming section and you don't need to provide "proof of Rockstar fandomhood" to be able to post in this section. All I have done is show that not all PC gamers are chomping at the bit to play RDR and going by Rockstars history of porting on the PC we shouldn't expect a half decent port. But apparently we should be prepared to accept any old sh*t Rockstar throws our way according to some posters on this board.

[Creed Bratton]

I want RDR for PC. But if they release it I'm not gonna buy it until I hear from users that the game runs good and until I see some YouTube videos from users proving it's not a sh*tty port. I don't trust professional reviews one bit!

[mkey82]

I personally never said that any GTA sucked on PC comparing to the console version, console versions always sucked more obviously and as a PC gamer I sincerely don't care about the state of console titles. They may or may not suck, I don't care. What I would like to see is a working title, out of the box for the next game R* "develops" on PC, whichever it may be.

 

Also, to all of you guys saying we would have nothing had it not been for GTAIV or RDR, I have to laugh. Hard. There are at least two dozen games in the past two years I put more hours in then GTAIV. Obviously, it's a matter of opinions and taste, no?

Edited August 8, 2010 by mkey82

[Abel.]

To be honest, I am indifferent towards RDR's possible conversion to the PC. GTA IV was different, not only did I like the game whilst sampling the PS3 version, but it held

an almost prolific status due to its 2-year long hype. Honestly, I love GTA IV but the quality of the port was absolutely dire on release day, I was thankful that my troubles

were minimal, limited to some pop-in and shader issues. It's undeniable that Rockstar has worked to resolve the majority of these issues to result in what I would call a

currently respectable, solid game, and, the game does look miles better on the PC.

 

However, the title has taken over a year to reach this state. My point here is that companies of stature far below that of Rockstar (well, in terms

of wealth if anything) have been producing titles with additional features and support for our new APIs to provide new graphical effects, among other PC features.

Notable games include Just Cause 2 which makes splendid use of the PC's hardware to provide the graphical fidelity we expect for the effort we

put into building our PCs, yet the respective developers receive much less funding and, mainly, managed to bloody release their games simultaneously on all platforms.

This is my main complaint, we waited months for the PC release of GTA IV and, worse still, no news of its development was divulged to is in the intervening time.

This is one of my main grievances with larger companies like Epic and Rockstar, these are companies with the resources to develop a fine PC version of their "Triple-A"

titles, release it simultaneously with the console equivalents at no detriment to the quality of the game, but instead we must wait for what has become an average of 8 months

for an inferior product. The sad thing is that this is not baffling, it's undeniable that money is the only contributing factor here, whether it derives from a console manufacturer's

intention to restrict our access to a game or whatever. Despite all this negativity, we still have excellent companies like GSC Gameworld, producers of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R franchise,

producing stunning games for our platform, and, guess what, even though they publish their games exclusively on "the dead platform", Call of Pripyat sold 2 million copies as of May

and the developer is regarded with respect and admiration by PC Gamers everywhere, but console gamers are unaware of the company's existence .

 

So, we still have some excellent companies, such as GSC, not bound by monolithic publishers, developing games which push our PCs and, more importantly, provide a rich,

absorbing experience unattainable on the consoles.

 

As I said initially, I don't really care if RDR comes to the PC, in fact, if it's the excellent game its patrons are waxing on about in the RDR topic, then I might give it a try,

providing it's what I call a "proper PC Game". By this, I mean , as Mkey82 rightly said, it must be developed on the PC to result in a product that not only controls well, but runs

just as (if not better) than the console versions.

Edited August 9, 2010 by elanman

[The-King]

Gears was a fantastic PC port, I was actually shocked at how well it transitioned, not to mention the added compliment of an entire PC exclusive chapter.

 

In the end though money speaks louder than words, most game developers receive oodles of cash to keep their games console exclusive for periods of time, or publishers use underhanded means to sell more games and keep control of content for their games (see MW2 for reference)

 

The biggest problems I've noted with recent releases is the lack of graphical options. BC2 and MOH gave you maybe six or so options in game then pretty much forced everything else on you. Wanted to turn off all that Shader Model 3.0 sh*t? Well you're sh*t out of luck because the only thing we want you to change is the AA/AS, resolution, texture quality, depth of field and maybe one or two other simple options. I discovered a long time ago that HDR and other fancy sh*t like that has a tendency to chop my FPS down to measly proportions, yet I've only come across a couple of recent games that actually include the option to disable it. Even Valve are following this sh*tty trend and it's damn shameful, since both L4D2 and Alien Swarm have forced HDR.

[IVSA_Guy]

Gears was a fantastic PC port, I was actually shocked at how well it transitioned, not to mention the added compliment of an entire PC exclusive chapter.

 

In the end though money speaks louder than words, most game developers receive oodles of cash to keep their games console exclusive for periods of time, or publishers use underhanded means to sell more games and keep control of content for their games (see MW2 for reference)

 

The biggest problems I've noted with recent releases is the lack of graphical options. BC2 and MOH gave you maybe six or so options in game then pretty much forced everything else on you. Wanted to turn off all that Shader Model 3.0 sh*t? Well you're sh*t out of luck because the only thing we want you to change is the AA/AS, resolution, texture quality, depth of field and maybe one or two other simple options. I discovered a long time ago that HDR and other fancy sh*t like that has a tendency to chop my FPS down to measly proportions, yet I've only come across a couple of recent games that actually include the option to disable it. Even Valve are following this sh*tty trend and it's damn shameful, since both L4D2 and Alien Swarm have forced HDR.

Yeah, HDR slows down the FPS of many games I tried.

And having HDR forced on, thats a dirty joke.

[oldage]

 

 

The biggest problems I've noted with recent releases is the lack of graphical options. BC2 and MOH gave you maybe six or so options in game then pretty much forced everything else on you. Wanted to turn off all that Shader Model 3.0 sh*t? Well you're sh*t out of luck because the only thing we want you to change is the AA/AS, resolution, texture quality, depth of field and maybe one or two other simple options. I discovered a long time ago that HDR and other fancy sh*t like that has a tendency to chop my FPS down to measly proportions, yet I've only come across a couple of recent games that actually include the option to disable it. Even Valve are following this sh*tty trend and it's damn shameful, since both L4D2 and Alien Swarm have forced HDR.

there was a community made tool for graphical settings though (I remember it having way more options to change)

[The-King]

 

 

The biggest problems I've noted with recent releases is the lack of graphical options. BC2 and MOH gave you maybe six or so options in game then pretty much forced everything else on you. Wanted to turn off all that Shader Model 3.0 sh*t? Well you're sh*t out of luck because the only thing we want you to change is the AA/AS, resolution, texture quality, depth of field and maybe one or two other simple options. I discovered a long time ago that HDR and other fancy sh*t like that has a tendency to chop my FPS down to measly proportions, yet I've only come across a couple of recent games that actually include the option to disable it. Even Valve are following this sh*tty trend and it's damn shameful, since both L4D2 and Alien Swarm have forced HDR.

there was a community made tool for graphical settings though (I remember it having way more options to change)

For which one? I mentioned a good five games

[oldage]

 

 

The biggest problems I've noted with recent releases is the lack of graphical options. BC2 and MOH gave you maybe six or so options in game then pretty much forced everything else on you. Wanted to turn off all that Shader Model 3.0 sh*t? Well you're sh*t out of luck because the only thing we want you to change is the AA/AS, resolution, texture quality, depth of field and maybe one or two other simple options. I discovered a long time ago that HDR and other fancy sh*t like that has a tendency to chop my FPS down to measly proportions, yet I've only come across a couple of recent games that actually include the option to disable it. Even Valve are following this sh*tty trend and it's damn shameful, since both L4D2 and Alien Swarm have forced HDR.

there was a community made tool for graphical settings though (I remember it having way more options to change)

For which one? I mentioned a good five games

oh my bad, it was BC2.

[OverTheBelow]

http://www.zumodrive.com/share/5csVNGU4Zj

..is a link to the launcher/BC2 config tool. Nothing new, it just puts all the settings from the settings file into a GUI.

 

 

Notable games include Just Cause 2 and Red Faction: Guerilla, both make splendid use of the PC's hardware to provide the graphical fidelity we expect for the effort we

put into building our PCs

Bzzzt! wrong. Red Faction Guerilla is by no means a good port.

[Abel.]

 

Gears was a fantastic PC port, I was actually shocked at how well it transitioned, not to mention the added compliment of an entire PC exclusive chapter.

 

I agree, I love Gears of War, I've no doubt the PC version IS the best version. However, the fact that Epic has decided not to let us have Gears of War 2, despite allowing us its predecessor, is inexcusable.

Moreover, the port did take an entire year to reach our platform.

 

OverTheBelow: admittedly, Red Faction isn't the best port, but it was released on the same day as the console version, its visuals are greatly improved, including sun shafts and increased particle effects.

I've found that its patches have resolved its main issue, which was a crash when entering the graphics options in-game. Other than that, I really saw no evidence of it being as woefully bad as other ports

of today.

Edited August 8, 2010 by elanman

[NinjaWJ]

y were we talking bout RDR? Its a bad game anyways.

[The-King]

y were we talking bout RDR? Its a bad game anyways.

 

Because in a reality that isn't obscured by idiotic bias and worthless automatic preconceptions it's actually an amazing game that's more deserving of a proper PC release than any other game I've ever played.

[[SM]CJZera]

I have to agree, RDR is by no means a bad game, especially if it comes (and it better does D:) to PC, since I can already imagine the potential...

 

Am I the only one who's growing up hate on the newest graphics? I have quite a good computer, but god damn it's hella hard to play any game at all on 1680x1050, most of the time it can't even have AA... or in the case of Fallout it has to be in some smaller res I don't care to remember and craploads of AA to compensate (still love it tho <3)

 

I hope we get it's PC release soon

[NinjaWJ]

i dont care if RDR comes onto PC or not i just hope more peopel can experience the game

[The-King]

 

CJZera,Aug 8 2010, 19:37] or in the case of Fallout it has to be in some smaller res I don't care to remember and craploads of AA to compensate (still love it tho <3)

If you have a processor with more than two cores Fallout runs like sh*t regardless. For some reason Bethesda's version of Gamebryo is built to only run properly on machines with only two cores, so if you have more than two cores it won't handle itself as well as it would with only two working cores.

 

Just a note really.

 

@Ninja: Why the f*ck would you want people to experience something you deem bad? Seems rather hypocritical.