Official PC Gamers Topic V3

[cold fusion 33]

 

I wouldn't play Max Payne 3 even under duress of licking some sweaty donkey balls.

Then be aware that you could be missing out on a potentially great game. I tend wait until a game is actually released and I've played it before I make such strong judgements.

About the fact that the picture doesn't look like Max Payne:

Max Payne Three is set ten years after the first Max Payne. He's had his entire family murdered, he's seen some serious sh*t and done stuff himself that's even worse. There's nothing left for him in New York, hence his move to Brazil. I'd probably think it blasphemy that a Max Payne game is being released with a setting outside of NY, but it actually makes sense as far as the story is concerned. Also, if he ws still wearing the same God damned leather jacket and hadn't even changed his facial appearence in over ten years then I'd find that pretty damn ridiculous.

 

But whatever, this game could be sh*t, it could be great, too bad you'll never know because you're too caught up in your own opinions to actually play some games.

[ptiko]

I don't see why people are so against Max Payne 3.

Because its doing what every other game is doing. Going to some middle eastern country and shooting black people.

Since when was Brazil in the f*cking middle east?

It show's how much I care about this max payne and where gaming is going, I just assume it was somewhere in the middle east.

[mkey82]

 

Then be aware that you could be missing out on a potentially great game.

I have seen the f*cking game on a PS3 and I know for a goddamn fact I won't be missing anything. I hope this sets your mind at ease. You seem to consider every game as a potentially great title, matter of the fact is, the opposite is usually the truth. Also, do not ignore the inherent subjectivity of the issue, if one thinks something is great, it doesn't make it so. If you think something is or could be great, that's your problem, deal with it and leave me be.

 

 

Max Payne Three is set ten years after the first Max Payne.

Apparently, he's been subjected to as many plastic reconstruction surgeries as Liz Taylor in the same time period.

 

 

There's nothing left for him in New York, hence his move to Brazil.

Yes, and it seems in Brazil there aren't such things as a noir setting or trademarked comic book animations.

 

 

Also, if he ws still wearing the same God damned leather jacket and hadn't even changed his facial appearence in over ten years then I'd find that pretty damn ridiculous.

I find him ridiculous enough as is. The fact of the matter is, if the game had been called something else, 90% of people wouldn't even identify it as a Max Payne sequel.

 

 

But whatever, this game could be sh*t, it could be great, too bad you'll never know because you're too caught up in your own opinions to actually play some games.

You seriously need therapy, are you even aware how much that sh*t costs? To play every game that "may" be "great"? You honestly believe I have the time and money to handle all that? No, I don't. Yes, I care about my opinions. Yes, I care about my money and free time, I will not, I repeat, I WILL NOT "invest" any of those into delayed console ports that sh*t all over once great PC game franchises. K?

[cold fusion 33]

 

-snip-

Ok, ok, let's just set our differences aside as our opinions are completely different. Please do not take any insult from anything I've said because none was intended.

 

 

I have seen the f*cking game on a PS3 and I know for a goddamn fact I won't be missing anything.

 

Could I have a link to this footage because I thought the only released media was a few screens shots .

Edited February 6, 2011 by cold fusion 33

[Sunrise Driver]

Next info is not for R* haters. Because no matter what R* is doing they'll hate it.

 

http://jobs.rockstargames.com/

Goto R* Leeds -> Graphics Programmer.

 

I wonder what can it be.

[mkey82]

cold fusion, I wasn't insulted, I just get a bit aggravated when people seem reluctant to accept one man's opinion and move along. Like in the case on MP3, I never judged anyone's opinion on the matter, I merely stated mine.

 

Street Mix, there are much more R* cocksuckers over here then there are haters, OK? Just give it a rest. You know what could R* do to regain some respect? Little things like proper PC releases, no more of that delayed bullsh*t, no more of that "PC gamers arrr pirates" propaganda etc. But I guess, like every nice little fanboy, you'll ignore all facts that collide with your theories and just bend over yet once again for another shafting. Well, congratulations, enjoy, at least your Steam uprising has ended so we should be grateful for that, I guess.

[ptiko]

http://jobs.rockstargames.com/

Goto R* Leeds -> Graphics Programmer.

 

I wonder what can it be.

A job advertisement?

[CharmingCharlie]

Ah you have to laugh at those kidders at Rockstar, especially this "job requirement" :-

 

 

- Must have shipped at least 2 recent PC games

 

That is most certainly NOT something Rockstar or Rockstar Leeds can claim to have achieved . So the potential candidate must have a hell of a lot more experience than any other f*cker at Rockstar Leeds . I doubt it is anything PC related though Rockstar just want good quality staff and we all know they can only be found on the PC.

[The Killa]

Then be aware that you could be missing out on a potentially great game.

I have seen the f*cking game on a PS3 and I know for a goddamn fact I won't be missing anything. I hope this sets your mind at ease. You seem to consider every game as a potentially great title, matter of the fact is, the opposite is usually the truth. Also, do not ignore the inherent subjectivity of the issue, if one thinks something is great, it doesn't make it so. If you think something is or could be great, that's your problem, deal with it and leave me be.

 

 

Max Payne Three is set ten years after the first Max Payne.

Apparently, he's been subjected to as many plastic reconstruction surgeries as Liz Taylor in the same time period.

 

 

There's nothing left for him in New York, hence his move to Brazil.

Yes, and it seems in Brazil there aren't such things as a noir setting or trademarked comic book animations.

 

 

Also, if he ws still wearing the same God damned leather jacket and hadn't even changed his facial appearence in over ten years then I'd find that pretty damn ridiculous.

I find him ridiculous enough as is. The fact of the matter is, if the game had been called something else, 90% of people wouldn't even identify it as a Max Payne sequel.

 

 

But whatever, this game could be sh*t, it could be great, too bad you'll never know because you're too caught up in your own opinions to actually play some games.

You seriously need therapy, are you even aware how much that sh*t costs? To play every game that "may" be "great"? You honestly believe I have the time and money to handle all that? No, I don't. Yes, I care about my opinions. Yes, I care about my money and free time, I will not, I repeat, I WILL NOT "invest" any of those into delayed console ports that sh*t all over once great PC game franchises. K?

...and the biggest ego award goes to...

[mkey82]

... The Killa?

[The Killa]

How much more can you mouth off? I know sometimes I post sh*t and I've been here long enough to know who's quality and who isn't but Cheesus Christ this is some embarrassing sh*te I'm reading. Do you even take notice at the current game market and how much developers are half-arsing they're way through video games nowadays? Do you notice the constant re-hashed sh*te in the name of Call of Duty and EA Games / Sports, yet you have the idea that slagging off R* is a correct thing to do because they don't cater to your childish Wall of Shame?

 

Video games, believe it or not, is art and it is quite complex. R* continues to make games that are different, unique and f*cking quality and it the complete antitheses to the sh*t being churned out by developers today.

 

Come off it. Games will never be perfect, if they are poorly optimized or not. Even if they're made for the 360 / PS3 master race there is going to be issues as far as bugs and so on. Yes, PC gaming does deserve more attention but the fact you're giving the attitude like you are just seems like not only should developers put 100% of their busy time into PC gaming, but 100% of their time into YOUR preferences. What a huge inflated ego that would rival anybody in Hollywood or anybody else... ever.

 

How about you put your energy into promoting the message that game developers should start to take it to themselves to begin to innovate the games in terms of quality and freshness. Because thats a much bigger issue if you ask me, and it doesnt matter if a game is well optimized or not.. it will not change the fact that the game is simply bad.

 

Therefore, thats the reason there are so many "Rockstar Cocksuckers" here is because they continue to make games that challenge new themes and ideas and mouthing off Max Payne 3 when it isn't even released is such a bold opinion you're spewing. Hope Max Payne 3 is the game of the f*cking decade just to spite you and your Wall of I'm-a-giant-douchebag

 

 

 

[The-King]

How much more can you mouth off? I know sometimes I post sh*t and I've been here long enough to know who's quality and who isn't but Cheesus Christ this is some embarrassing sh*te I'm reading. Do you even take notice at the current game market and how much developers are half-arsing they're way through video games nowadays? Do you notice the constant re-hashed sh*te in the name of Call of Duty and EA Games / Sports, yet you have the idea that slagging off R* is a correct thing to do because they don't cater to your childish Wall of Shame?

 

Video games, believe it or not, is art and it is quite complex. R* continues to make games that are different, unique and f*cking quality and it the complete antitheses to the sh*t being churned out by developers today.

 

Come off it. Games will never be perfect, if they are poorly optimized or not. Even if they're made for the 360 / PS3 master race there is going to be issues as far as bugs and so on. Yes, PC gaming does deserve more attention but the fact you're giving the attitude like you are just seems like not only should developers put 100% of their busy time into PC gaming, but 100% of their time into YOUR preferences. What a huge inflated ego that would rival anybody in Hollywood or anybody else... ever.

 

How about you put your energy into promoting the message that game developers should start to take it to themselves to begin to innovate the games in terms of quality and freshness. Because thats a much bigger issue if you ask me, and it doesnt matter if a game is well optimized or not.. it will not change the fact that the game is simply bad.

 

Therefore, thats the reason there are so many "Rockstar Cocksuckers" here is because they continue to make games that challenge new themes and ideas and mouthing off Max Payne 3 when it isn't even released is such a bold opinion you're spewing. Hope Max Payne 3 is the game of the f*cking decade just to spite you and your Wall of I'm-a-giant-douchebag

Prepare to be called a troll for stating an opinion that's contrary to his.

[Creed Bratton]

Seriously, what's with Max Payne 3 hating? Wait until the game is released before hating it. I don't understand how you can have an opinion on something that doesn't exist yet. That's not an opinion. That's a belief based on Rockstar's previous PC treatment. As such it it a valid belief, but still, chill man.

[mkey82]

Well...

 

 

Do you even take notice at the current game market and how much developers are half-arsing they're way through video games nowadays?

Yes, dear dumbass, I do. Either you need to start reading properly, or wash that sh*t out of your eyes.

 

 

yet you have the idea that slagging off R* is a correct thing to do because they don't cater to your childish Wall of Shame?

No, dear dumbass, no. R* a) lies b) intentionally deceives c) holds back information d) creates deals that hurt gamers and the company in the long run. They don't care and that's why I'll continue saying what I've been saying all along. The quality of the game doens't matter, I'm a paying customer and have the right to do whatever with my time and money. That's all, if they have 0 respect for us, I have 0 respect for them. If you can't comprehend this, who the f*ck cares, really?

 

 

R* continues to make games that are different, unique and f*cking quality and it the complete antitheses to the sh*t being churned out by developers today.

Yeah, very different and unique. Like GTAIV, I mean that type of game has really never been seen. And oh my god, they even have those missions where you drive from point a to point b and kill people along the way. Very inventive, yes.

 

 

How about you put your energy into promoting the message that game developers should start to take it to themselves to begin to innovate the games in terms of quality and freshness.

That is one of the points of the wall

 

 

Because thats a much bigger issue if you ask me, and it doesnt matter if a game is well optimized or not.. it will not change the fact that the game is simply bad.

There have been loads of games practically ruined because of severe stability issues.

 

 

Therefore, thats the reason there are so many "Rockstar Cocksuckers" here is because they continue to make games that challenge new themes and ideas

Yeah, new ideas, like ten years ago. Do you know what a new idea becomes after ten years? Old.

 

 

and mouthing off Max Payne 3 when it isn't even released is such a bold opinion you're spewing. Hope Max Payne 3 is the game of the f*cking decade just to spite you and your Wall of I'm-a-giant-douchebag.

Dear retard, I'm a f*cking private individual on a public forum not changing anyone's opinion about anything. I am saying, they changed too much in the series for me to be still interested in it. Does this make sense to you or should I just whip out some chalk and draw a picture for you?

[dog_day_sunrise]

Yeah, very different and unique. Like GTAIV, I mean that type of game has really never been seen. And oh my god, they even have those missions where you drive from point a to point b and kill people along the way. Very inventive, yes.

Of all the bullsh*t you've posted, I feel the need to flag this one the most.

 

Please name one truly original game released in, oh, the last 20 years. The answer is- there isn't one. Everything is based on something else, the root of every genre is lost in the ether of decades, and nothing is really original anymore. Physics puzzles? Been done before? Multiplayer? Been around for decades. Shooters? Strats? Simulators? Platformers? Racing games? Even open-world games have existed for years. What are you suggesting instead? A GTA game where you drive to peoples houses and present them with a bunch of flowers, followed by tapping Shift-F alternately to give them a handjob on their doorstep? Don't thin kit will sell to well, personally

[d0mm2k8]

sh*t's got f*cking serious. This is what opinions do to people.

[CharmingCharlie]

 

Seriously, what's with Max Payne 3 hating? Wait until the game is released before hating it. I don't understand how you can have an opinion on something that doesn't exist yet.

I think people have every right to be concerned, tell me of what you have seen so far has anything shouted "this is a Max Payne game" ? I don't even recognise the main character as Max Payne he looks that different. I bet if Rockstar released a series of unlabelled screenshots of the game you wouldn't even know they were from Max Payne, unless they actually tell you it is from Max Payne. Now couple that with the truly horrendous port of GTA 4 AND the fact they have done nothing else on the PC since then well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that a lot of people are hardly going to have any "faith" in Rockstar producing anything competent.

 

Hell at this point I am not even that convinced they will bother with a PC version. I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that the PC version may get cancelled or delayed.

 

 

A GTA game where you drive to peoples houses and present them with a bunch of flowers, followed by tapping Shift-F alternately to give them a handjob on their doorstep? Don't thin kit will sell to well, personally

Ha don't be silly, I mean next you will suggest a game that has play dates where you can take people bowling and watch limited comedy routines or lame arse theatre. They could really add to the atmosphere if they enabled your play date friends to phone you every five f*cking minutes on the phone ........ yeah that would be really really cool... Oh wait a minute it's been done

[mkey82]

 

Please name one truly original game released in, oh, the last 20 years.

GTA3 was pretty goddamn original, to name one. I shall not comment on the rest of your spewing as I will not waste time reading it.

 

Anyway, to hopefully close this unfortunate matter, I would like to release this following statement:

 

To me, as a private person not associated with any company/publisher/manufacturer/whatever Max Payne 3 in this rather early stage of development does not look very interesting. I wish not enter into too detailed description, for the fear someone may be influenced by my personal private personal opinion, I think it suffice to say that, at this time, it seems to me R* has taken a bit too much from the series to make this sequel. In combination with my weariness when it comes to third person action adventure games, Max Payne 3 isn't a title I would particularly like to play, especially when considering the issue of limited amounts of free time and funds.

 

If anyone doesn't agree with my right to make this type of decision, I can only say - f*ck off. At the same time, if anyone has a perfectly opposite opinion about this game, I have 0 issues with that and I wish you all the best, I hope you'll get your money worth.

 

On the R* front, I would like to restate something that has been mentioned countless times: while they do make good games (even if I personally didn't enjoy GTAIV that much, it definitively is a very good and solid game by today's standards; on the other hand I really enjoyed TLAD and still enjoy TBOGT as I still haven't completed it and to me these expansions seem like something GTAIV was supposed to be from day one) I personally do not like the way they treat their customers. I guess that, when one takes into consideration the vastness of the GTAIV project; the fact it took 4 years to make; the fact it doesn't run that well on any platform one can forgive and forget about performance issues. After all, in some masochistic way, one may find hope in a dream that one day, they'll probably buy a faster PC and thusly enjoy GTAIV at full potential. That's better then not playing the game at all, obviously. Of course, R* being a big company that it is, maybe could have an official support forum, but they don't deem one necessary.

 

When I take a moment to reconsider the fact that R* has managed to not discuss the PC platform for something like 5 years prior to GTAIV PC release announcement, it doesn't fill me with much respect for the said company. They didn't have the openness of heart to come forward and say something like "look guys, we expect massive sales on consoles and our current projections show that a simultaneous PC release would hurt our chances, maybe even further delay the release date, however there is a PC version in the works, for sometime later this year" I would be pissed, but at the same time content, as it would show they care after all, not forcing our hand into buying something we don't really want. Also, had they any intention to actually make good sales on PC, maybe they could have invested some dosh into promotion for the PC release, but no, they just went for the good old quick mention of the coming PC release on a totally unrelated press conference.

 

I guess a lot more could be written, but for people who remember it's not really needed, for those who choose not to remember it doesn't make any difference, does it?

 

Going back to the matter of limited resources, I really have to make a decision of which games and companies will and will not support. This right is my own and I don't see how can anyone, especially an illiterate, take it away from me. What I feel toward R* and their games is not hate (as many people like to label as hater anyone who follows some other line of though; from primate types of behavior, this is the one that puzzles me the most), it's simply discontent and distrust.

 

In closing, I hope we can learn to agree to disagree, should the need arise.

Edited February 6, 2011 by mkey82

[dog_day_sunrise]

Please name one truly original game released in, oh, the last 20 years.

GTA3 was pretty goddamn original, to name one. I shall not comment on the rest of your spewing as I will not waste time reading it.

You're pretty sh*t at presenting a point of view. And what was so original about GTA 3? Whichever way you look at it- a 3D incarnation of a classic top-down game or a combination of a driving sim and a crude third person shoot-em-up, they're not exactly fresh ideas.

[Ash_735]

Even though some of his views are a bit, erm, strong, I do agree that Max Payne 3 won't be good, I'm a huge Max Payne fan, and I stuck by Max Payne 3 even after I learnt soo much stuff would be torn out, the final factor for me was losing James McCaffrey, I mean, yeah, a lot can change, but how the hell can Rockstar think it was a good idea to GET RID OF THE VOICE OF MAX PAYNE??? The guy we've had speaking to us for the past two games, letting us know his thoughts, etc, and Rockstar just ditched him to save money and get some cheap NYC Actor instead. No, that was the final straw for me.

 

If you want to know what happened to Max Payne, play Alan Wake, James Mcaffrey makes a cameo in that game doing the voice over reading one of Alan's books about an NYC cop who's family was murdered, the story takes place directly after Remedy's un made Max Payne 3 where he dies at the end, THAT'S the ending, whatever Rockstar come up with in this generic console oriented shooter is not the true story of Max Payne.

[OverTheBelow]

Even though some of his views are a bit, erm, strong, I do agree that Max Payne 3 won't be good, I'm a huge Max Payne fan, and I stuck by Max Payne 3 even after I learnt soo much stuff would be torn out, the final factor for me was losing James McCaffrey, I mean, yeah, a lot can change, but how the hell can Rockstar think it was a good idea to GET RID OF THE VOICE OF MAX PAYNE??? The guy we've had speaking to us for the past two games, letting us know his thoughts, etc, and Rockstar just ditched him to save money and get some cheap NYC Actor instead. No, that was the final straw for me.

 

If you want to know what happened to Max Payne, play Alan Wake, James Mcaffrey makes a cameo in that game doing the voice over reading one of Alan's books about an NYC cop who's family was murdered, the story takes place directly after Remedy's un made Max Payne 3 where he dies at the end, THAT'S the ending, whatever Rockstar come up with in this generic console oriented shooter is not the true story of Max Payne.

I don't think James' soft narrative voice would suit the guy on the boxart of Max Payne 3 (MP3, ha) somehow.

[Mister Pink]

I wouldn't play Max Payne 3 even under duress of licking some sweaty donkey balls.

Then be aware that you could be missing out on a potentially great game. I tend wait until a game is actually released and I've played it before I make such strong judgements.

About the fact that the picture doesn't look like Max Payne:

Max Payne Three is set ten years after the first Max Payne. He's had his entire family murdered, he's seen some serious sh*t and done stuff himself that's even worse. There's nothing left for him in New York, hence his move to Brazil. I'd probably think it blasphemy that a Max Payne game is being released with a setting outside of NY, but it actually makes sense as far as the story is concerned. Also, if he ws still wearing the same God damned leather jacket and hadn't even changed his facial appearence in over ten years then I'd find that pretty damn ridiculous.

 

But whatever, this game could be sh*t, it could be great, too bad you'll never know because you're too caught up in your own opinions to actually play some games.

I totally agree. Makes sense. I've been a fan of Max Payne when it came out and it's attention to funny little details and humour like the stuff on the T.V. is right up Rockstars alley.

 

mkey82

 

I have seen the f*cking game on a PS3 and I know for a goddamn fact I won't be missing anything. I hope this sets your mind at ease. You seem to consider every game as a potentially great title, matter of the fact is, the opposite is usually the truth. Also, do not ignore the inherent subjectivity of the issue, if one thinks something is great, it doesn't make it so. If you think something is or could be great, that's your problem, deal with it and leave me be

 

 

In reference to the bold bit, how is it a matter of fact? Also, how is your 'private' opinion 'private when you're posting it on a public forum.

 

You seem bitter and cynical towards gaming. I like anticipating games but if you feel "You seem to consider every game as a potentially great title, matter of the fact is, the opposite" well then that just proves how sceptical you are. You're also being hypocritical here saying that people's opinion is just opinion and gaming is subjective but your opinion (see bold) is the right opinion.

 

I also counted about 4 times when you just insulted someone by resorting to name calling when their posts weren't provocative at all. You are just making yourself look bad.

 

*Awaits similar insults to follow..*

 

Apologies for not being on topic.

 

 

 

[OverTheBelow]

When have R* ever made a disappointing game? Apart from the typical OMG NO PLAENS IN GTA4 which i don't give two sh*ts about, I don't think people have ever been disappointed in a game by them so far.

 

*awaits gunfire*

[baptiste]

Please name one truly original game released in, oh, the last 20 years.

GTA3 was pretty goddamn original, to name one. I shall not comment on the rest of your spewing as I will not waste time reading it.

You're pretty sh*t at presenting a point of view. And what was so original about GTA 3? Whichever way you look at it- a 3D incarnation of a classic top-down game or a combination of a driving sim and a crude third person shoot-em-up, they're not exactly fresh ideas.

Wow.

 

Did you actually just say all that crap?

[CharmingCharlie]

 

When have R* ever made a disappointing game?

Hm lets see there was the god awful Bully (with performance that made GTA 4 look like lightning), then there was the abysmal Manhunt 2 and finally the piece de resistance GTA 4 which was a f*ck awful port and quite literally an insult. The last decent game Rockstar released on the PC platform was GTA SA and even that had horrible technical issues, crappy optimisation and school yard bugs and glitches. Let's face it Rockstars history on the PC platform does not exactly inspire confidence.

[Creed Bratton]

I actually have no issues with Bully. Have it on PS2 and bought it on PC. Although when I purchased the PC version the patch was already out that fixed the performance issues.

[Ash_735]

Even though some of his views are a bit, erm, strong, I do agree that Max Payne 3 won't be good, I'm a huge Max Payne fan, and I stuck by Max Payne 3 even after I learnt soo much stuff would be torn out, the final factor for me was losing James McCaffrey, I mean, yeah, a lot can change, but how the hell can Rockstar think it was a good idea to GET RID OF THE VOICE OF MAX PAYNE??? The guy we've had speaking to us for the past two games, letting us know his thoughts, etc, and Rockstar just ditched him to save money and get some cheap NYC Actor instead. No, that was the final straw for me.

 

If you want to know what happened to Max Payne, play Alan Wake, James Mcaffrey makes a cameo in that game doing the voice over reading one of Alan's books about an NYC cop who's family was murdered, the story takes place directly after Remedy's un made Max Payne 3 where he dies at the end, THAT'S the ending, whatever Rockstar come up with in this generic console oriented shooter is not the true story of Max Payne.

I don't think James' soft narrative voice would suit the guy on the boxart of Max Payne 3 (MP3, ha) somehow.

But that just proves the point that this isn't a proper Max Payne game! Is Max Payne now going to have a growling and booming angry voice? Constantly shouting? That's just out of character, plus, it's not like they changed the voice of some background character, IT'S BLOODY MAX PAYNE! That iconic voice just fits perfectly with the character, it's like having a Metal Gear Solid game without David Hayter. I mean, if McCaffrey took time out to record lines for Alan Wake, just as a Cameo, that must prove how much he's on good terms with Remedy, so for Rockstar to complain that his voice doesn't suit the game and them going for someone cheaper just doesn't sound all that good to me!

[mkey82]

 

In reference to the bold bit, how is it a matter of fact?

Well, I look at it this way - it takes a lot of work to make a good game and since most studios just don't cut it, consequentially most games are simply not great/good. The same goes for movies, music and basically everything else. Those who are bad define what is good. But right you are, since this "good" factor is subjective, that bit is not a fact obviously. It was more of a figure of speech, not something I consider to be an universal fact. Luckily, there is always someone who will pull out a bit of text out of an ode to subjectivity and try to make it look like something else. I hope this puts your mind at ease.

 

 

Also, how is your 'private' opinion 'private when you're posting it on a public forum.

As I'm a private individual not representing anyone nor trying to influence anyone's opinion, I consider my opinions to be private. As they are my own private personal opinions, the fact I shared them doesn't change anything in this regard, as far as I'm concerned.

 

 

You seem bitter and cynical towards gaming. I like anticipating games but if you feel "You seem to consider every game as a potentially great title, matter of the fact is, the opposite" well then that just proves how sceptical you are. You're also being hypocritical here saying that people's opinion is just opinion and gaming is subjective but your opinion (see bold) is the right opinion.

I explained the bolded bit above, what you see as cynicism I consider to be realism. Nothing more, nothing less. The last game I anticipated was Mafia 2 (turned out to be sh*t). The game before that was GTAIV (a disappointment on my end). The following games I anticipate are Diablo 3 and Witcher 2, I can only hope this will put your mind at ease x2.

 

 

resorting to name calling when their posts weren't provocative at all.

Well, you should maybe read more carefully next time around.

 

 

just to spite you and your Wall of I'm-a-giant-douchebag

He kind of opened it, you know? Even without this, when someone flat out refuses to accept that my views may differ from theirs, I'm ready to see that as provocation. Call me stupid or whatever, I really don't care.

 

 

*Awaits similar insults to follow..*

I guess you'll have to retake those psychology lessons, the theory hasn't sunk in as should the first time around.

 

 

so for Rockstar to complain that his voice doesn't suit the game and them going for someone cheaper just doesn't sound all that good to me!

I think this happened to GTAIV as well. Just look what Liotta did for Vercetty. This is one of the main reasons I don't want them redoing VC, they would just f*ck up a perfect experience. Also, it's not the first time they say "uhhh, it just doesn't suit the character. So we'll just rip out the parachute and stick it into the DLC as Luis is a much more airborne person that Niko was." Bollocks, they needed to spread content over three games so they did what had to be done.

[FullMetal]

Eventhough I don't like the 'change' of Max Payne 3 and what they're doing with it so far, I probably will buy it anyways and will play it to form a proper opinion about the game.

 

But still, hear me out (this is coming from a die hard Max Payne fan). Max Payne isn't about certain specific details (not ONLY bullet time, or flappy leather jackets, shoooting, his name, the fine humor, the film noir style, the insanely awesome monologues, the sometimes Tarantino-esque characters, the "comics" or whatnot)... it's about the whole package.

 

The whole atmosphere made Max Payne (1+2) in my opinion one of the most original and epic "third person shooter" games/franchise(s) in the world. So, if one were to completely redo said franchise with a insanely different approach they must either have alot of balls to push through with their "ideas" that are blasphemous to some (like myself)... or be really really stupid. My point is: it's either going to be really good or it'll be really bad.

 

Also, Max Payne changed from MP1 to MP2. In the first he was a young NYPD cop and it pretty much showed in his appearance. In the second he grew older, a couple of years later and it also showed in his appearance. Alot of people hated the change in face... I for one was pretty happy about it because the main things of the franchise were still there.

 

But the 'slight change' from MP1 to MP2 is nothing compared to what they seem to have done with MP2 to MP3.

[OverTheBelow]

When have R* ever made a disappointing game?

Hm lets see there was the god awful Bully (with performance that made GTA 4 look like lightning), then there was the abysmal Manhunt 2 and finally the piece de resistance GTA 4 which was a f*ck awful port and quite literally an insult. The last decent game Rockstar released on the PC platform was GTA SA and even that had horrible technical issues, crappy optimisation and school yard bugs and glitches. Let's face it Rockstars history on the PC platform does not exactly inspire confidence.

I didn't mean in terms of performance, you fool.