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KeWiS

The most accurate GTA map comparison ever!

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KeWiS

Hello mates! Here you can find a very detailed GTA map comparison. The following post is some kind of report, where I'm gonna explain you step by step all my calculations in the whole time-consuming process (It took me circa 1 month to complete this task! O_O).

 

First of all, I want to present some well known for GTA fans assumptions and prove if they're really correct. Here they are:

1. The GTA:VC map is bigger than the GTA III one.

2. San Andreas in GTA:SA is circa 14 sq miles(36 sq km) size.

3. The cities in GTA:SA are compared by size like this: Los Santos > Las Venturas > San Fierro.

4. The GTA IV map is around half a GTA:SA map.

5. Los Santos in GTA V is around the size of GTA IV's Liberty City (with Alderney of course, but remember! Alderney in fact is an another city and even in another state, but in this case Alderney will be included as a Liberty City's borough, so luckily you won't be confused :cool: ).

6. The GTA V map is 49 sq miles (127 sq km) size.

7. Los Santos is the biggest city in 3D Universe.

 

And there will be TWO types of comparison: by total area and land area.

 

NOTE: The GTA V map unfortunately wasn't uploaded in original resolution (4000x4000), but please believe that all my calculations presented below are correct :) Other maps should be uploaded OK .

 

OK, so here we go, but I don't know how to start this s**t! :D

 

KeWiS, jokes off. Let's get it straight...

 

Step 1

 

There are different ways of map measuring. When it comes to me, I use the most predictable method which is running/walking/driving the particular distance (in my case it's half a mile) along the straight south-north or east-west direction. Firstly, I marked one of the characteristical places on every map as a start point. Then, I ran half a mile (checking the travelled distance by foot in game stats from time to time) and after that distance I marked the finish point of my map measurement's unit.

For this comparison I've used 5 maps with different resolutions, so the half-a-mile unit isn't the same on each map. What do I mean? If you draw that unit on each map, it won't have the same pixels length. Let's see this:

 

GTA III, GTA:VC, GTA:SA, GTA IV, GTA V

 

0.5 mile unit:

- GTA III = 205 px

- GTA:VC = 365 px

- GTA:SA = 200 px

- GTA IV = 845 px

- GTA V = 265 px

 

For the area measuring it is vital to establish the area unit, which in this case is 1 square mile. As you might notice, we just need to double each pixel length given above and square.

 

1 sq mile unit:

- GTA III = 168 100 px

- GTA:VC = 532 900 px

- GTA:SA = 160 000 px

- GTA IV = 2 856 100 px

- GTA V = 280 900 px

 

Remember! 1 sq mile = 2.59 sq km!

 

 

Step 2

 

After establishing units, I've had to find 4 extreme points of each map (4 because of 4 world directions, obvious :cool: ) and draw an outer rectangle, in which these extreme points must be situated on its sides. Then, inside this rectangle, I've drawn many, many rectangles, triangles ( :cool: ) and trapezoids, but ONLY on water areas! Why? Well, do some maths: Total area - Water area = Land area. Ain't that simple? :pp If not, you'd better not scroll down, I'm warning you :D

OK, next map pack and water areas in pixels for you to realise the essence of my map measuring O_O

 

GTA III

 

GTA III - water areas:
1. 18 600 px
2. 2 700 px
3. 5 600 px
4. 31 050 px
5. 1 350 px
6. 9 750 px
7. 14 350 px
8. 2 000 px
9. 5 313 px
10. 50 625 px

11. 16 200 px
12. 3 850 px
13. 4 875 px
14. 34 375 px
15. 3 400 px
16. 1 350 px
17. 1 313 px
18. 1 225 px
19. 1 300 px
20. 1 750 px

21. 2 850 px
22. 1 138 px
23. 1 913 px
24. 2 363 px
25. 1 375 px
26. 6 450 px
27. 825 px
28. 1 350 px
29. 6 063 px
30. 788 px

31. 1 600 px
32. 3 600 px
33. 1 875 px

Total: 243 166 px

 

 

GTA:VC

 

GTA:VC - water areas:
1. 20 075 px
2. 20 625 px
3. 111 375 px
4. 20 250 px
5. 8 100 px
6. 4 700 px
7. 14 625 px
8. 44 450 px
9. 36 720 px
10. 27 675 px

11. 38 025 px
12. 2 475 px
13. 9 800 px
14. 6 250 px
15. 10 200 px
16. 1 950 px
17. 3 825 px
18. 64 400 px
19. 7 250 px
20. 10 200 px

21. 14 950 px
22. 9 200 px
23. 4 500 px
24. 7 750 px
25. 14 000 px
26. 70 700 px
27. 54 288 px
28. 24 225 px
29. 2 100 px
30. 1 800 px

31. 1 750 px
32. 5 700 px
33. 1 000 px
34. 4 388 px
35. 2 613 px
36. 4 500 px
37. 5 950 px
38. 2 538 px
39. 1 650 px
40. 800 px

41. 1 925 px
42. 3 000 px
43. 1 200 px
44. 1 650 px
45. 1 575 px
46. 6 038 px
47. 2 875 px
48. 1 438 px

Total: 717 073 px

 

 

GTA:SA

 

GTA:SA - Water areas:
1. 4 500 px
2. 14 400 px
3. 16 275 px
4. 37 800 px
5. 7 475 px
6. 2 625 px
7. 3 600 px
8. 9 600 px
9. 29 375 px
10. 2 700 px

11. 8 050 px
12. 2 550 px
13. 3 825 px
14. 2 700 px
15. 5 425 px
16. 2 750 px
17. 2 763 px
18. 3 300 px
19. 4 675 px
20. 2 100 px

21. 5 425 px
22. 20 875 px
23. 4 200 px
24. 6 063 px
25. 16 840 px
26. 2 125 px
27. 3 900 px
28. 7 200 px
29. 8 550 px
30. 3 150 px

31. 6 655 px
32. 2 300 px
33. 1 138 px
34. 2 000 px
35. 29 176 px
36. 5 700 px
37. 63 225 px
38. 12 750 px
39. 1 925 px
40. 8 855 px

41. 7 175 px
42. 4 680 px
43. 4 060 px
44. 6 540 px
45. 5 950 px
46. 2 800 px
47. 1 500 px

Total: 411 245 px

 

 

GTA IV (this one must win many kudos! :D)

 

GTA IV - Water areas:

1. 1 107 000 px
2. 98 050 px
3. 7 600 px
4. 81 900 px
5. 1 950 px
6. 2 625 px
7. 1 950 px
8. 41 800 px
9. 7 500 px
10. 387 600 px


11. 6 000 px
12. 92 400 px
13. 7 500 px
14. 8 750 px
15. 8 225 px
16. 12 338 px
17. 37 813 px
18. 29 900 px
19. 18 563 px
20. 26 463 px

21. 20 150 px
22. 12 350 px
23. 21 700 px
24. 2 750 px
25. 27 000 px
26. 9 350 px
27. 4 900 px
28. 8 050 px
29. 8 283 px
30. 5 600 px

31. 12 500 px
32. 17 000 px
33. 5 600 px
34. 11 750 px
35. 9 800 px
36. 2 475 px
37. 18 500 px
38. 36 000 px
39. 47 400 px
40. 22 400 px

41. 44 000 px
42. 3 400px
43. 788 px
44. 1 250 px
45. 76 000 px
46. 143 350 px
47. 7 350 px
48. 1 500 px
49. 7 200 px
50. 510 125 px

51. 11 825 px
52. 7 363 px
53. 37 275 px
54. 21 375 px
55. 9 000 px
56. 6 300 px
57. 36 750 px
58. 18 750 px
59. 35 700 px
60. 7 650 px

61. 1 125 px
62. 92 400 px
63. 17 775 px
64. 4 550 px
65. 9 600 px
66. 10 175 px
67. 44 375 px
68. 142 800 px
69. 152 000 px
70. 36 600 px

71. 8 450 px
72. 2 750 px
73. 8 500 px
74. 16 200 px
75. 94 300 px
76. 12 000 px
77. 3 675 px
78. 28 000 px
79. 46 550 px
80. 9 750 px

81. 14 625 px
82. 7 288 px
83. 6 400 px
84. 5 000 px
85. 25 500 px
86. 15 075 px
87. 11 625 px
88. 25 200 px
89. 20 250 px
90. 5 400 px

91. 20 000 px
92. 14 700 px
93. 12 750 px
94. 75 200 px
95. 18 450 px
96. 60 500 px
97. 73 700 px
98. 26 650 px
99. 42 000 px
100. 11 400 px

101. 20 400 px
102. 2 625 px
103. 126 750 px
104. 27 600 px
105. 96 000 px
106. 7 650 px
107. 18 750 px
108. 30 000 px
109. 12 000 px
110. 53 550 px

111. 130 500 px
112. 5 063 px
113. 3 500 px
114. 963 px
115. 52 200 px
116. 2 250 px
117. 11 400 px
118. 5 100 px
119. 3 150 px
120. 48 000 px

121. 96 600 px
122. 3 200 px
123. 3 500 px
124. 42 000 px
125. 1 480 500 px
126. 12 900 px
127. 19 200 px
128. 195 300 px
129. 11 100 px
130. 140 250 px

131. 20 213 px
132. 11 550 px
133. 138 000 px
134. 2 363 px
135. 13 438 px
136. 20 400 px
137. 8 750 px
138. 3 850 px
139. 65 600 px
140. 9 800 px

141. 45 600 px
142. 34 400 px
143. 5 100 px
144. 31 875 px
145. 48 425 px
146. 1 287 800 px

Total: 8 918 889 px

 

 

GTA V

 

GTA V - Water areas:

1. 192 000 px
2. 14 025 px
3. 79 800 px
4. 2 275 px
5. 4 000 px
6. 1 600 px
7. 73 950 px
8. 2 000 px
9. 4 000 px
10. 2 200 px

11. 107 250 px
12. 3 850 px
13. 10 200 px
14. 517 700 px
15. 10 800 px
16. 7 000 px
17. 3 150 px
18. 4 250 px
19. 8 400 px
20. 40 375 px

21. 64 575 px
22. 151 200 px
23. 12 250 px
24. 12 900 px
25. 9 100 px
26. 2 900 px
27. 11 700 px
28. 17 250 px
29. 19 500 px
30. 7 425 px

31. 58 863 px
32. 18 900 px
33. 14 575 px
34. 69 650 px
35. 397 750 px
36. 63 425 px
37. 2 600 px
38. 1 563 px
39. 12 825 px
40. 1 688 px

41. 7 538 px
42. 6 125 px
43. 48 000 px
44. 5 375 px
45. 43 938 px
46. 43 863 px
47. 5 063 px
48. 163 500 px
49. 273 800 px
50. 4 400 px

51. 25 900 px
52. 189 000 px
53. 9 900 px
54. 63 263 px
55. 19 000 px
56. 7 700 px
57. 23 100 px
58. 4 025 px
59. 2 775 px
60. 16 625 px

Total: 3 002 354 px

 

 

Step 3

 

So now having these results we can finally guess how big land areas in every GTA really are!

 

(Note: 1 sq mile = 2.59 sq km)

 

GTA III (Total Area) = 3.14 sq miles = 8.12 sq km

GTA III (Water Area) = 1.45 sq miles = 3.76 sq km

GTA III (Land Area) = 1.69 sq miles = 4.38 sq km

 

GTA:VC (Total Area) = 3.52 sq miles = 9.11 sq km

GTA:VC (Water Area) = 1.35 sq miles = 3.5 sq km

GTA:VC (Land Area) = 2.17 sq miles = 5.62 sq km

 

GTA:SA (Total Area) = 14.75 sq miles = 38.2 sq km

GTA:SA (Water Area) = 2.57 sq miles = 6.67 sq km

GTA:SA (Land Area) = 12.18 sq miles = 31.55 sq km

 

GTA IV (Total Area) = 6.23 sq miles = 16.14 sq km

GTA IV (Water Area) = 3.12 sq miles = 8.08 sq km

GTA IV (Land Area) = 3.11 sq miles = 8.06 sq km

 

GTA V (Total Area) = 29.28 sq miles = 75.84 sq km

GTA V (Water Area) = 10.69 sq miles = 27.69 sq km

GTA V (Land Area) = 18.59 sq miles = 48.15 sq km

 

OK, now we've got the results written. And I've decided to make a graphic comparison either! And that also can't go without calculations! <3

 

Let's put it by total size. If you want to compare some things to each other, one of them must be the base. It's easy, I've chosen the GTA V as a base, because it's the biggest map in series. So I've had to change resolutions in other maps (maintaining the ratio of course!).

 

But first we have to find out how much smaller are GTA III, GTA:VC, GTA:SA and GTA IV maps than the one from GTA V.

 

GTA V / GTA IV = 4.7 times

GTA V / GTA:SA = 1.99 times

GTA V / GTA:VC = 8.33 times

GTA V / GTA III = 9.34 times

 

GTA V (2352 x 3504 px) = 8 241 408 px

GTA IV = 1 753 491 px
GTA:SA = 4 141 411 px
GTA:VC = 989 365 px
GTA III = 882 378 px

 

Above we have how many pixels the maps in graphic comparison (total size) must have, maintaining their own ratios.

 

OK, so here is the graphic comparison by Total Size:

CVETqcE.jpg

 

And analogously with the land area:

 

GTA V / GTA IV = 5.97 times

GTAV:GTASA = 1.53 times
GTAV:GTAVC = 8.57 times
GTAV:GTAIII = 11 times
GTA V (2352 x 3504 px) = 8 241 408 px
GTA IV = 1 380 470 px
GTA:SA = 5 386 541 px
GTA:VC = 961 658 px
GTA III = 749 219 px
Graphic comparison by land area:
1Qxm49g.jpg

 

 

I bet you all thought that this is the end. Nah! Take a look at assumption on the top of the post once again. Something's missing, isn't it? :cool:

 

So here are the other maps and calculations to measure:

- GTA III's Portland Island, Staunton Island and Shoreside Vale;

- GTA:VC's Vice City Beach and Vice City Mainland;

- GTA:SA's Los Santos, San Fierro, Las Venturas, Red County, Flint County, Whetstone, Tierra Robada and Bone County;

- GTA IV's Broker, Dukes (also with Charge Island), Bohan, Algonquin (also with Colony Island and Happiness Island) and Alderney;

- GTA V's Los Santos, Los Santos County (also without LS) and Blaine County (also without Alamo Sea).

 

GTA III's Portland Island, Staunton Island

 

GTA 3

Portland:
1. 5 363 px
2. 475 px
3. 2 625 px
4. 900 px
5. 4 388 px
6. 875 px

Total Area = 77 000 px = 0.46 sq miles = 1.19 sq km
Water Area = 14 626 px = 0.09 sq miles = 0.23 sq km
Land Area = 0.37 sq miles = 0.96 sq km

Staunton Island:
1. 2 363 px
2. 1 913 px
3. 5 900 px
4. 3 325 px
5. 1 600 px
6. 8 800 px
7. 1 788 px

Total Area = 106 875 px = 0.64 sq miles = 1.65 sq km
Water Area = 25 689 px = 0.15 sq miles = 0.4 sq km
Land Area = 0.49 sq miles = 1.25 sq km

Shoreside Vale (Land Area) = 0.83 sq miles = 2.17 sq km

 

 

GTA:VC's Vice City Beach

 

Vice City Beach:
1. 6 038 px
2. 2 500 px
3. 1 800 px
4. 10 000 px
5. 23 275 px
6. 12 750 px
7. 12 600 px
8. 5 200 px
9. 9 350 px
10. 4 025 px
11. 10 500 px
12. 1 400 px
13. 5 400 px
14. 39 525 px
15. 1 650 px
16. 1 200 px
17. 3 900 px
18. 9 125 px
19. 1 125 px
20. 51 625 px

Total Area = 729 000 px = 1.37 sq miles = 3.55 sq km
Water Area = 212 988 px = 0.4 sq miles = 1.04 sq km
Land Area = 0.97 sq miles = 2.51 sq km

 

 

GTA:VC's Vice City Mainland

 

Vice City Mainland:
1. 5 550 px
2. 2 100 px
3. 13 650 px
4. 4 813 px
5. 158 100 px
6. 20 300 px
7. 13 000 px
8. 5 850 px
9. 29 325 px
10. 4 988 px
11. 23 600 px
12. 9 100 px
13. 114 800 px
14. 4 950 px
15. 23 750 px
16. 1 688 px
17. 8 575 px

Total Area = 990 450 px = 1.86 sq miles = 4.82 sq km
Water Area = 444 139 px = 0.83 sq miles = 2.15 sq km
Land Area = 1.03 sq miles = 2.67 sq km

 

 

GTA:SA's Los Santos, San Fierro, Las Venturas

 

GTA:SA

Los Santos:
1. 12 813 px
2. 8 800 px
3. 11 850 px
4. 10 650 px
5. 12 400 px
6. 4 000 px
7. 6 325 px
8. 7 500 px
9. 50 600 px

Total Area = 435 000 px = 2.72 sq miles = 7.05 sq km
Water Area = 124 938 px = 0.78 sq miles = 2.02 sq km
Land Area = 1.94 sq miles = 5.03 sq km

San Fierro:
1. 5 075 px
2. 14 350 px
3. 29 375 px
4. 8 850 px
5. 3 088 px
6. 12 513 px
7. 18 500 px
8. 8 750 px
9. 34 800 px
10. 2 713 px

Total Area = 406 850 px = 2.54 sq miles = 6.58 sq km
Water Area = 138 014 px = 0.86 sq miles = 2.23 sq km
Land Area = 1.68 sq miles = 4.35 sq km

Las Venturas:

Total Area = 340 200 px = 2.13 sq miles = 5.52 sq km
Water Area = 5 600 px = 0.04 sq miles = 0.1 sq km
Land Area = 2.09 sq miles = 5.42 sq km

 

 

GTA:SA's Red County, Whetstone, Tierra Robada

 

Red County:
1. 16 800 px
2. 2 400 px
3. 6 900 px
4. 2 900 px
5. 17 600 px
6. 4 200 px
7. 12 300 px
8. 5 363 px
9. 29 025 px
10. 16 125 px
11. 3 900 px
12. 34 500 px
13. 4 638 px
14. 16 400 px
15. 2 925 px

Total Area = 447 225 px = 2.8 sq miles = 7.25 sq km
Water Area = 175 976 px = 1.1 sq miles = 2.85 sq km
Land Area = 1.7 sq miles = 4.4 sq km

Whetstone:
1. 4 000 px
2. 42 750 px
3. 4 675 px
4. 5 950 px
5. 4 200 px
6. 4 200 px
7. 6 500 px
8. 6 075 px

Total Area = 251 450 px = 1.57 sq miles = 4.07 sq km
Water Area = 78 350 px = 0.49 sq miles = 1.27 sq km
Land Area = 1.08 sq miles = 2.8 sq km

Tierra Robada:
1. 8 400 px
2. 19 600 px
3. 3 750 px
4. 8 050 px
5. 2 700 px
6. 63 000 px
7. 16 675 px
8. 86 788 px

Total Area = 381 150 px = 2.38 sq miles = 6.16 sq km
Water Area = 208 963 px = 1.31 sq miles = 3.4 sq km
Land Area = 1.07 sq miles = 2.76 sq km

 

 

GTA:SA's Flint County, Bone County

 

Flint County:
1. 12 750 px
2. 13 125 px
3. 41 075 px
4. 7 288 px
5. 3 150 px
6. 3 000 px
7. 1 463 px
8. 15 525 px

Total Area = 325 850 px = 2.04 sq miles = 5.28 sq km
Water Area = 97 376 px = 0.61 sq miles = 1.58 sq km
Land Area = 1.43 sq miles = 3.7 sq km

Bone County:
1. 20 600 px
2. 9 200 px
3. 44 100 px
4. 16 875 px
5. 4 700 px

Total Area = 351 000 px = 2.19 sq miles = 5.67 sq km
Water Area = 95 475 px = 0.6 sq miles = 1.55 sq km
Land Area = 1.59 sq miles = 4.12 sq km

 

 

GTA IV's Broker, Bohan, Alderney

 

GTA IV:

Broker:
1. 86 250 px
2. 45 050 px
3. 59 000 px
4. 11 250 px
5. 12 000 px
6. 276 000 px
7. 32 800 px
8. 5 100 px
9. 23 375 px
10. 25 850 px
11. 13 600 px
12. 28 700 px
13. 6 000 px
14. 13 163 px
15. 45 900 px
16. 4 950 px
17. 21 850 px
18. 5 500 px
19. 9 300 px
20. 9 800 px
21. 26 250 px
22. 24 000 px

Total Area = 1 902 750 px = 0.67 sq miles = 1.74 sq km
Water Area = 785 688 px = 0.28 sq miles = 0.73 sq km
Land Area = 0.39 sq miles = 1.01 sq km

Bohan:
1. 14 175 px
2. 91 800 px
3. 28 500 px
4. 16 250 px
5. 72 000 px
6. 7 288 px
7. 40 600 px
8. 3 000 px
9. 3 800 px
10. 40 800 px
11. 7 525 px
12. 12 950 px
13. 24 400 px
14. 8 775 px
15. 49 400 px

Total Area = 1 287 800 px = 0.45 sq miles = 1.17 sq km
Water Area = 421 263 px = 0.15 sq miles = 0.39 sq km
Land Area = 0.3 sq miles = 0.78 sq km

Alderney:
1. 101 750 px
2. 936 000 px
3. 12 000 px
4. 7 000 px
5. 23 400 px
6. 35 650 px
7. 3 825 px
8. 14 950 px
9. 4 675 px
10. 9 000 px
11. 29 213 px
12. 6 975 px
13. 12 500 px
14. 137 475 px
15. 109 725 px
16. 28 750 px
17. 32 800 px
18. 11 000 px
19. 27 000 px
20. 42 000 px
21. 18 600 px
22. 128 100 px
23. 6 650 px
24. 42 400 px

Total Area = 4 394 250 px = 1.54 sq miles = 3.99 sq km
Water Area = 1 781 438 px = 0.62 sq miles = 1.61 sq km
Land Area = 0.92 sq miles = 2.38 sq km

 

 

GTA IV's Dukes, Algonquin

GTA IV's Charge Island, Colony Island, Happiness Island

 

Dukes:
1. 120 900 px
2. 88 125 px
3. 34 000 px
4. 78 175 px
5. 263 250 px
6. 2 800 px
7. 3 413 px
8. 16 775 px
9. 84 150 px
10. 2 625 px
11. 14 688 px
12. 136 000 px
13. 11 550 px
14. 29 250 px
15. 132 750 px
16. 10 800 px
17. 197 000 px
18. 7 800 px
19. 10 000 px
20. 18 450 px
21. 48 400 px
22. 8 500 px
23. 11 813 px

Total Area = 2 972 900 px = 1.04 sq miles = 2.69 sq km
Water Area = 1 331 214 px = 0.47 sq miles = 1.22 sq km
Land Area = 0.57 sq miles = 1.47 sq km

Charge Island:
1. 10 950 px
2. 3 125 px
3. 2 275 px

Total Area = 143 000 px = 0.05 sq miles = 0.13 sq km
Water Area = 16 350 px = 0.01 sq miles = 0.03 sq km
Land Area = 0.04 sq miles = 0.1 sq km

Dukes (with Charge Island) = 0.61 sq miles = 1.57 sq km

Algonquin:
1. 22 050 px
2. 228 375 px
3. 274 313 px
4. 5 600 px
5. 142 350 px
6. 21 200 px
7. 31 350 px
8. 16 675 px
9. 6 375 px
10. 2 125 px
11. 2 625 px
12. 55 575 px
13. 29 138 px
14. 2 613 px
15. 6 800 px
16. 16 875 px
17. 210 600 px
18. 1 575 px
19. 119 700 px
20. 43 500 px
21. 17 550 px
22. 6 800 px
23. 58 050 px
24. 3 575 px
25. 55 500 px
26. 3 163 px
27. 40 300 px
28. 129 525 px
29. 50 400 px
30. 4 650 px

Total Area = 4 024 350 px = 1.41 sq miles = 3.65 sq km
Water Area = 1 608 927 px = 0.56 sq miles = 1.45 sq km
Land Area = 0.85 sq miles = 2.2 sq km

Colony Island:
1. 17 463 px
2. 2 588 px
3. 6 450 px
4. 4 050 px
5. 4 275 px
6. 4 725 px
7. 4 200 px

Total Area = 140 250 px = 0.05 sq miles = 0.13 sq km
Water Area = 43 751 px = 0.02 sq miles = 0.05 sq km
Land Area = 0.03 sq miles = 0.08 sq km

Happiness Island:
1. 14 950 px
2. 2 475 px
3. 1 238 px
4. 9 500 px
5. 3 000 px

Total Area = 110 000 px = 0.04 sq miles = 0.11 sq km
Water Area = 31 163 px = 0.01 sq miles = 0,03 sq km
Land Area = 0.03 sq miles = 0.08 sq km

Algonquin (with Colony Island and Happiness Island) = 0.91 sq miles = 2.35 sq km

 

 

GTA V's Los Santos, Blaine County

 

GTA V

Los Santos:
1. 50 825 px
2. 7 400 px
3. 13 600 px
4. 4 100 px
5. 14 400 px
6. 6 300 px
7. 4 500 px
8. 140 400 px
9. 36 800 px
10. 29 400 px
11. 4 500 px
12. 11 900 px
13. 62 100 px
14. 34 650 px
15. 31 000 px
16. 36 000 px
17. 19 800 px
18. 138 250 px
19. 67 838 px
20. 16 100 px

Total Area = 2 343 000 px = 8.34 sq miles = 21.6 sq km
Water Area = 729 863 px = 2.6 sq miles = 6.73 sq km
Land Area = 5.74 sq miles = 14.87 sq km

Blaine County:
1. 36 538 px
2. 38 063 px
3. 5 063 px
4. 151 500 px
5. 259 000 px
6. 4 400 px
7. 25 900 px
8. 181 800 px
9. 14 025 px
10. 192 000 px
11. 79 800 px
12. 2 275 px
13. 4 000 px
14. 1 600 px
15. 73 950 px
16. 2 000 px
17. 4 000 px
18. 2 200 px
19. 5 950 px
20. 58 900 px
21. 27 200 px
22. 16 500 px
23. 24 000 px
24. 13 200 px
25. 4 200 px
26. 15 750 px
27. 28 000 px
28. 14 500 px
29. 44 950 px

Total Area = 3 557 400 px = 12.66 sq miles = 32.79 sq km
Water Area = 1 331 264 px = 4.74 sq miles = 12.28 sq km
Land Area = 7.92 sq miles = 20.51 sq km

Alamo Sea = 0.52 sq miles = 1.35 sq km

Blaine County (without Alamo Sea) = 7.4 sq miles = 19.16 sq km

Los Santos County (with Los Santos) = 11.19 sq miles = 28.99 sq km
Los Santos County (without Los Santos) = 5.45 sq miles = 14.12 sq km

 

 

Finally end of my calculations! Back to assumptions, which are true and which are false? Let's see.

 

1. "The GTA:VC map is bigger than the GTA III one."

True. Despite of 3 islands, Liberyy City in GTA III is smaller than the Vice City in sequel. It's because LC is quite compact, while VC doesn't have many streets and roads. But on the other hand, Vice City is good developed in south-north direction and, as you can see, none of the LC's three parts is as big as Vice City Mainland or Vice City Beach.

 

2. "San Andreas in GTA:SA is circa 14 sq miles (36 sq km) size."

True, if we include total size 14.75 sq miles (38.2 sq km). False, if we include land size 12.18 sq miles (31.55 sq km).

 

3. "The cities in GTA:SA are compared by size like this: Los Santos > Las Venturas > San Fierro."

Well.... These cities don't have any island, so that they should be considered by a land size. And according to my calculations: San Fierro - OK, it's the smallest of them three (size of GTA III's Liberty City). No doubt. But to my surprise Las Venturas turnt out to be much bigger than Los Santos! :blink: I don't know if I made mistake right here, but playing GTA:SA I've always felt like LS is more developed and diversed than LV! .... But mommy, I like so much LS :(False....

 

4. "The GTA IV map is around half a GTA:SA map."

When it comes to total size it's True (6.23/14.75 sq miles; 16.14/38.2 sq km). When it comes to land size, it's False (3.11/12.18 sq miles; 8.06/31.55 sq km) - near 4 times smaller.

 

5. "Los Santos in GTA V is around the size of GTA IV's Liberty City"

This one is quite tricky too! Looking at the graphic comparison (by total size), LC seems to be near the size of LS, but I extended the north border of Los Santos (everywhere when I see GTA V's Los Santos map people forget to include Galileo Observatory and Vinewood Sign, geez!) and that's why we see bigger numbers by "City of Saints". Well, maybe not much controversial like the previous with LV and LS, but False.

 

6. "The GTA V map is 49 sq miles (127 sq km) size."

False, False, FALSE!!! The map is NOT that big even when we include the total size! :nervous: The land area is ONLY half bigger than the GTA:SA's one! Brutal reality :sui:

 

7. "Los Santos is the biggest city in the 3D Universe."

I'm also dissapointed with this statement that Vice City is above 0.5 sq km bigger than GTA:SA's Los Santos, which seems more diverse and compact. It's really sad... :(False

 

To sum up, I don't know where and how many mistakes I've made in this comparison, but I've tried my best and I'm counting on you with pointing me out what to improve. It was a nice experience for me to make such a very detailed comparison like this and maybe I'll use it as a base for my concept map, who knows! :)

 

And in the end, I want to point out what could go wrong in my comparison. What are the reasons for such controversial things like:

1. In GTA:SA Las Venturas is bigger than Los Santos.

2. Los Santos in GTA V is much bigger than Liberty City in GTA IV.

3. Algonquin is smaller than both Vice City Mainland and Vice City Beach.

 

That's just for now. :) If you want to find out how big is the particular area of each GTA map, please let me know in this thread and I'll consider doing it ;) Hope you all enjoy my thread without any "headache" :D

 

Regards,

KeWiS

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theGTAking101

Wow, good job.

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Failure

This must be time-consuming... thank you for sharing :)

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mcorleone_9015

That is really interesting and must have cost a lot of work, thanks a lot.

It's really amazing how they managed to create such a big map with so many things and details back in 2004 and how it took so long to be surpassed in terms of size...

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Osho

O M G !!!

:O:O:O

I always wanted see someone tried to make such map comparisons in complete details.

Thank U So muuuch!

Copy, pasted and saved on my computer ;)

Again, Excellent job! :^: I highly appreciate your time and efforts for the same. :)

I'd suggest this to be PINNED.

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thehambone

Wow, great job! I admire your efforts as it must've taken quite a long time to churn out these results. :)

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RedDagger

Damn, good job!

 

Especially finding the land area of the GTA IV map, 146 shapes in total :p

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ArKel_18

An excellent job OP! Congratulations, many websites should've done this when comparing the GTA V map back in 2013 lol

 

Doing GTA San Andreas map in 2004 was a huge task but with a perfect result, that gave Rockstar a deserved prestige, why couldn't they make V's map as good as San Andreas...

 

Or at least release the HD port to PS3 lol, I miss it a lot

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KeWiS

I have updated top post with an assumption:

"Vice City is the biggest city in 3D Universe."

 

And the conclusion to this in the end of the post.

 

 

Doing GTA San Andreas map in 2004 was a huge task but with a perfect result, that gave Rockstar a deserved prestige, why couldn't they make V's map as good as San Andreas...

 

The answer is simple. In the HD Universe Rockstar wants to create worlds realistically, I mean the world is more natural and similar to their real-life counterparts. Maybe we feel like GTA:SA's map is more diverse than GTA V's, but the older SA had many curve roads and the draw distance was a few times smaller. Furthermore, when you're driving along the grassy north border of Red County it's kinda weird that you see a sandy desert of Bone County simultaneously. And that's why GTA V map seems less diverse because of the natural change of environments. That's how I could explain this ;)

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DaWiesel

IV's map looks pretty small compared to V's Los Santos. I mean LS is definitely bigger than LC, but it looks too big compared to IV's whole map. I always thought that V's LS is pretty much the same size as IV's map but I didn't know that it's actually noticeably bigger than that.

 

XCalinX will hate this though, lol.

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IV's map looks pretty small compared to V's Los Santos. I mean LS is definitely bigger than LC, but it looks too big compared to IV's whole map. I always thought that V's LS is pretty much the same size as IV's map but I didn't know that it's actually noticeably bigger than that.

 

XCalinX will hate this though, lol.

 

Well... The results in my top post tell, that by the total size, V's Los Santos is quite bigger than IV's Liberty City, but by the land size LS is nearly 2 times bigger than LC! Yeah, in GTA IV we have much water areas and LS in GTA V is a one piece of land (with no islands), but having played both games I felt like both cities are enormous and I couldn't even guess which one is bigger!

 

In Liberty City, there are many skyscrapers that makes the city bigger than really is. For example, Algonquin has most of them and I've always got feeling that is a huge borough and learning it from the heart takes very much time! But acording to my results (if my method of measuring maps is reliable), Algonquin (and also Alderney) is smaller even than Vice City Beach and Vice City Mainland separately! O_O Kinda weird...

 

And Los Santos has way less high buildings, so that R* expanded the rest of the city to increase a "huge-metropoly" feeling. And that's why LS is bigger than LC.

 

Conclusion: ROCKSTAR KNOWS VERY WELL HOW TO MANIPULATE WITH SPACES :cool:

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(Ambient)

Great job, OP! :^:

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Stoney0503

inb4 xCalinx attempts to prove you wrong by comparing 1 street of LS to all of LC and claim LC is bigger.

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KeWiS

inb4 xCalinx attempts to prove you wrong by comparing 1 street of LS to all of LC and claim LC is bigger.

 

I'm wating :cool:

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Hazelnot

Damn. How long did these calculations take? I mean jesus, even the post looks like it took like half an hour to make.

 

So LS really is bigger than LC huh. I was really worried LC was bigger because in real life LA is bigger than NY. I can now rest easily huh.

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Chamberman20

Why to go, super smart.

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Peck R. Wood

do the same with past gta titles, bully and red dead redemption

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KeWiS

Damn. How long did these calculations take? I mean jesus, even the post looks like it took like half an hour to make.

 

Calculations took me couple of weeks and that post took me 5 hours to make :D I just wanted it to be accurate and clarified without any misunderstandings. :)

 

 

do the same with past gta titles, bully and red dead redemption

 

I'm afraid I will not do this, because:

1. Past GTA titles don't have distance travel measurement and even stats.

2. I'm not planning to play Bully.

3. If I had PS3 or XBox 360, I would measure the size of the RDR map. For now it's only a dream :D

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inb4 xCalinx attempts to prove you wrong by comparing 1 street of LS to all of LC and claim LC is bigger.

 

Well, near a half a year gone and still no response from xCalinx.

 

Conclusion from this: My comparisons are definitely reliable :cool:

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GrudgefromSanAndreas

Man R* made VC bigger than LC in 3d era which is absurd if NYC is larger than Miami. Hope they don't repeat the mistake when they make HD Vice City

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Anywhere USA

 

inb4 xCalinx attempts to prove you wrong by comparing 1 street of LS to all of LC and claim LC is bigger.

 

Well, near a half a year gone and still no response from xCalinx.

 

Conclusion from this: My comparisons are definitely reliable :cool:

I have ....... A few more GTA map size questions for you.

1. GTA III. Upstate Liberty. It's in the minimap, playable or not, the dodo don't care. Does it make it bigger then VC? How does upstate Liberty alone compare to places like shoreside vale or bohan.

2. North Yankton. Once again a little trickier to define, but possible

3. The 2d games. Besides china town wars(which is LC from 4 without Alderney..... So Liberty city proper) there is the original, 2, and Advance. Advance is heavily based on IIIs map, and 2s is split up into sectors.

1s could be tricky, with lots to calculate. Besides the whole map, you have to tell us how big each city is(fairly simple, almost the exact same, tiny difference in land size due to streets, and small change in water area) although some(like 2d LC) could even be further sub devided.

Come on, give me the true scale of Grand Theft Auto

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KeWiS

OK, I came back since I'm visiting gtaforums only from time to time and I see some questions to answer, so here we go ;)

 

 

 

inb4 xCalinx attempts to prove you wrong by comparing 1 street of LS to all of LC and claim LC is bigger.


Well, near a half a year gone and still no response from xCalinx.

Conclusion from this: My comparisons are definitely reliable

I

have ....... A few more GTA map size questions for you.
1. GTA III. Upstate Liberty. It's in the minimap, playable or not, the dodo don't care. Does it make it bigger then VC? How does upstate Liberty alone compare to places like shoreside vale or bohan.
2. North Yankton. Once again a little trickier to define, but possible
3. The 2d games. Besides china town wars(which is LC from 4 without Alderney..... So Liberty city proper) there is the original, 2, and Advance. Advance is heavily based on IIIs map, and 2s is split up into sectors.
1s could be tricky, with lots to calculate. Besides the whole map, you have to tell us how big each city is(fairly simple, almost the exact same, tiny difference in land size due to streets, and small change in water area) although some(like 2d LC) could even be further sub devided.
Come on, give me the true scale of Grand Theft Auto

 

 

1. Hmm, that's a good question! I have to fly once with Dodo to check how big is the upstate area! However all of the maps of GTA III are so different when it comes to including that part of the LC, but I hope it's doable to calculate this.

2. The thing with North Yankton is that you have to use a trainer or a glitch to reach there I guess ;S Or during the prologue mission of GTA V. But it's the same thing with the upstate in GTA III - there's no accurate map of it, so it would be harder to estimate the size of the town.

3. Hah, I see you like my previous comparison :D but as I did write then - it might be very hard to calculate GTA 1 and GTA 2 cities' sizes accurately, but maybe if I find a good method then I would think of doin this stuff again. For now I have to figure out how I manage to run GTA 1 and 2 on Windows 10 xD

 

Thanks for questions mate! You gave me new challenge to do. Idk when I will do this but if I get it right I promise to make a new post here with it ;)

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Lock n' Stock

I knew Rockstar were bullsh*tting when they claimed V's map was larger than SA, IV and RDR combined. SA and IV possibly, but RDR as well? Not a chance.

 

Great job.

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Posted (edited)

Comparing pixels isn't an accurate form of measurement as each game has their own scale. We need to compare using the actual scale of them and the only actual %100 accurate way to do that is to fully (I mean fully including all props and stuff) port all of the maps into the same game at once.

Until someone does that there will never be a truthful answer to the age old question.

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GrudgefromSanAndreas

Just take a good look at this picture altho it's just 3d era maps but you can compare them better there (or maybe not since it's tiny)

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On 3/31/2018 at 6:44 AM, KeWiS said:

OK, I came back since I'm visiting gtaforums only from time to time and I see some questions to answer, so here we go ;)

 

I

have ....... A few more GTA map size questions for you.
1. GTA III. Upstate Liberty. It's in the minimap, playable or not, the dodo don't care. Does it make it bigger then VC? How does upstate Liberty alone compare to places like shoreside vale or bohan.
2. North Yankton. Once again a little trickier to define, but possible
3. The 2d games. Besides china town wars(which is LC from 4 without Alderney..... So Liberty city proper) there is the original, 2, and Advance. Advance is heavily based on IIIs map, and 2s is split up into sectors.
1s could be tricky, with lots to calculate. Besides the whole map, you have to tell us how big each city is(fairly simple, almost the exact same, tiny difference in land size due to streets, and small change in water area) although some(like 2d LC) could even be further sub devided.
Come on, give me the true scale of Grand Theft Auto

 

 

1. Hmm, that's a good question! I have to fly once with Dodo to check how big is the upstate area! However all of the maps of GTA III are so different when it comes to including that part of the LC, but I hope it's doable to calculate this.

2. The thing with North Yankton is that you have to use a trainer or a glitch to reach there I guess ;S Or during the prologue mission of GTA V. But it's the same thing with the upstate in GTA III - there's no accurate map of it, so it would be harder to estimate the size of the town.

3. Hah, I see you like my previous comparison :D but as I did write then - it might be very hard to calculate GTA 1 and GTA 2 cities' sizes accurately, but maybe if I find a good method then I would think of doin this stuff again. For now I have to figure out how I manage to run GTA 1 and 2 on Windows 10 xD

 

Thanks for questions mate! You gave me new challenge to do. Idk when I will do this but if I get it right I promise to make a new post here with it ;)

Well, i may have gotten kinda bored.........wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll......................

 

And it might get even better in the near future!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I've since made a expanded version featuring EVERY SINGLE TOWN/VILLAGE/HAMLET/GHOSTTOWN, MILITARY BASE, AND BODY OF WATER, IN THE SERIES. Plus North Yankton. Yeah. I just haven't edited it yet.

Also, trying to hire one of those two big Size comparison YT channels to make a professonially edited one using my measurements(well their mostly mine, thanks to LE SQUARE and especially KeWiS for a few big ones )

On the plus side, this could be my ticket out of Micro channel and into the Mini/Tiny channel category!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEHAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Anywhere USA

I SAID YEEHAW.

YOU ALIVE

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KeWiS

@up Yeah, I'm alive. I was just rarely visiting forums though :D

 

And yeah, I know I kinda promised to do more comparisons and map calculations but other things in my life got me busy.

But nice to see someone besides me continues this idea so kudos for you Anywhere USA :D 

 

Idk if you use my method but I'll check it accurately since maybe I'll find another good method to calculate maps :)

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KeWiS

Hello GTA and R* fans! I have a 'little' surprise for you and it's currently in development :D

 

Check this thread by the end of this week! (I hope there won't be no need to postpone this gr8 stuff ❤️ )

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On 8/14/2018 at 11:43 PM, Anywhere USA said:

Well, i may have gotten kinda bored.........wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll......................

 

How did you calculate map sizes of 2D era games?

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