I'm the only one who hates Michael?

[The Dedito Gae]

The other two protags in V get a lot of hate, Trevor for being cheap written and terribly inmature and Franklin for being boring as f*ck, Michael for some reason gets away of this, i don' see people hating him, guy is not badass or cool, he's always whining, he's alays wallowing in remorse of things he did, his family is more annoying than Armando and OG Loc put together, there's even people who put it as his favorite protag and worst, they compare him to Tommy, the f*ck?

I seriously can't see why this guy gets that much love, he's awful as a protagonist, thank god we have other two guys to play as, i seriously would never touch this game if i was forced to play as Michael all the time.

[Undyne]

I agree tbh. As much as I hate to say it, Trevor is more tolerable than Michael AND his family.

[Slam_Jones]

I agree tbh. As much as I hate to say it, Trevor is more tolerable than Michael AND his family.

 

I agree, too. I'd rather listen to Trevor than any of the De Santa family.

[TheTechPoTaToCHIP]

Even though he is my favorite (i will elaborate on that a bit later) I actually kinda see him being similar to Dmitri, he betrayed his best friend and one of the last things Niko said to him "I guess the survival of the fittest thing really meant a lot to you" kinda solidified him as being similar to Dmitri if the player chooses the Kill Trevor ending.

 

As for why he's my favorite, I don't know. I kinda relate and sympathize with him. I know he's egotistic but he owns up to it when Trevor points it out, he tries to do better. The reason he keeps complaining is because of his horrible childhood and his obsession with movies giving him a delusion that his life is supposed to be like a Vinewood action star. In many ways, I feel sorry for him and feel happy when everything goes well for him and his family (depending on the ending). He keeps complaining about his family but he feels absolutely depressed when they leave him meaning despite all the complaints, he still loves them. And I think he's rather badass for doing a lot of high action crazy sh*t despite his age, he does some pretty over the top and high octane stuff in the game. I think the reason people compare him to Tommy is because he would probably who Tommy would become after the end of Vice City, the reason I like him over Tommy is because he has a (very flawed) personality, unlike Tommy's cookie cutter, boring, badass non-personality. I played Vice City multiple times and I still think Tommy is just boring with barely any personality, only defined by threatening people and building his empire. I know what he does but by the end of the game, I don't know who he is.

[Xing of Virtue]

I had to eliminate the judas. That fat slob would eat his own kids.

[Shadowfennekin]

I didn't like him cause he was an ass to Trevor the whole story pretty much. And I never truly believed he got out of the life to save his family, it was to save his own skin.

 

 

He's not at the bottom of my Protagonist pole though. CJ is there.

[Sonny_Black]

His relation with his family is so cliché and annoying.

[mcorleone_9015]

Even though i don't "hate" him, i get what you are saying. People see him as a badass and all, but but i don't see why... so yes, maybe he is a "badass" in the sense that he rob banks, do crazy sh*t sometimes but at the same time, he's lazy as hell (he never tries to change his lifestyle or correct his decadent family until Franklin and Trevor meet him in the story) and he's always complaining about everything but he's attitude doesn't make any difference... However i think he gets better in late part of the story.

[gooeyhole]

Michael is my favorite BECAUSE of his issues, because of his complaining, because of his family - that's the point. On one hand he's dealing with Trevor, and doing special ops sh*t for the FBI, yet on the other hand, he's dealing with the mundane, the boring, his family. Without him the story would serve no purpose. It also isn't a coincedence that the best part of the game is without Trevor. Mike could have carried the entire game. His chemistry with the supporting cast is what makes him the most impressive.

 

His banter with Dave? Top notch.

Arguments with Trevor? Top notch.

Arguments/banter with Frank? Top notch.

 

F and Trevor are a very forced dynamic when you hear them interact during hangouts. M and F are at least both cynical and have a bit of common ground.

 

Though I'll admit this, IF we get a story DLC, I hope Mike isn't a huge part of it.

Edited September 19, 2015 by Canadian Badass

[The Dedito Gae]

..It also isn't a coincedence that the best part of the game is without Trevor. Mike could have carried the entire game....

These two.

The game went to the sh*tter when the FIB appeared in the storyline , Michael introucing Franklin as the son he never had, the IAA bullsh*t, i'd rather have Trevor killing entire lost MC fleets to expand his bussiness than Michael being a bitch to the FIB.

[Humzz]

I agree, I don't get how Michael is the best protagonist for some people. He is, in my opinion, one of the worse protagonists in GTA history.

 

I was expecting a Tony Soprano/De Niro like character e.g. a tough, smart middle-aged crime king but what we got was the complete opposite.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

They're all terribly unlikable and I couldn't care less if all of them died. I'll even say this, Johnny was a better protagonist than all of them and I don't even like Johnny.

Edited September 19, 2015 by Scaglietti

[Sonny_Black]

They're all terribly unlikable and I couldn't care less if all of them died. I'll even say this, Johnny was a better protagonist than all of them and I don't even like Johnny.

This

[Caysle]

It's weird that people think Michael is the worst GTA protagonist, when there is Franklin Clinton. Michael is better than baby F imo

[Maibatsu545]

Even though he is my favorite (i will elaborate on that a bit later) I actually kinda see him being similar to Dmitri, he betrayed his best friend and one of the last things Niko said to him "I guess the survival of the fittest thing really meant a lot to you" kinda solidified him as being similar to Dmitri if the player chooses the Kill Trevor ending.

 

As for why he's my favorite, I don't know. I kinda relate and sympathize with him. I know he's egotistic but he owns up to it when Trevor points it out, he tries to do better. The reason he keeps complaining is because of his horrible childhood and his obsession with movies giving him a delusion that his life is supposed to be like a Vinewood action star. In many ways, I feel sorry for him and feel happy when everything goes well for him and his family (depending on the ending). He keeps complaining about his family but he feels absolutely depressed when they leave him meaning despite all the complaints, he still loves them. And I think he's rather badass for doing a lot of high action crazy sh*t despite his age, he does some pretty over the top and high octane stuff in the game. I think the reason people compare him to Tommy is because he would probably who Tommy would become after the end of Vice City, the reason I like him over Tommy is because he has a (very flawed) personality, unlike Tommy's cookie cutter, boring, badass non-personality. I played Vice City multiple times and I still think Tommy is just boring with barely any personality, only defined by threatening people and building his empire. I know what he does but by the end of the game, I don't know who he is.

Really? That's interesting because to me Michael is the one with the boring cookie cutter personality. He's basically a watered down Midwest Tony Soprano ripoff. All of his scenes at the therapists office are almost note for note the same things Tony Soprano said on his show. Other than that, he's pretty boring. His family is one giant cliche. Oh wow the mother is vapid and likes yoga and cheats on the husband. That's definitely original.

 

Also you obviously weren't paying attention to the cutscenes of Vice City because Tommy does a lot more than just threaten people. Just take the cutscenes where he talks to the old man about how he used to help his father who also ran a print works. Do we even know anything about Michael's past other than he had a "rough upbringing"? No, so right off the bat he's more generic than Tommy. To be honest though, all of the characters of V are bland and watered down compared to Vice City's cast. I'll take Lance Vance and Phil Cassidy over boring Clothes ironing Franklin and one-note 'totul Syko' Trevor Phillips any day.

Edited September 20, 2015 by Maibatsu545

[BlueHue]

I think the characters where desighned not to be likable.

[Flachbau]

I probably hate all three equally, to be honest. Trevor was over the top, which was cool sometimes, but very annoying every other time. Franklin was basically a cliche former gang banger and is trying to get out of the hood. Michael was some dude stuck in whatever decade and has a lot of anger issues..

[Official General]

Truthfully speaking, I think all 3 protagonists are wack, Trevor being the worst of them.

 

But focusing on Michael, I don't hate him. I just thought Michael's character and his individual story was so boring. That family guy stuff just didn't work, it felt so cheap, tacky and it was very corny. I didn't care about his psychololgical issues either, that too was tedious. There was really no exciting drive or motive for me to want to play as him. And Michael's FIB dealings singlehandedly ruined a majority of the storyline.

Edited September 20, 2015 by Official General

[Osho]

I don't like nor hate. He is okay. Not bad.

[Son of Zeus]

Truthfully speaking, I think all 3 protagonists are wack, Trevor being the worst of them.

This 100%. I don't hate Michael either, but like you said, the cliche' and corny Hollywood family sh*t didn't work out. He's boring, but atleast got some sort of development. He's better than Trevor, like everybody else is.

Edited September 20, 2015 by Son of Zeus

[SmokesWithCigs]

this thread is filled with proto hipsters.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Michael's awesome. Sue me.

[combustion]

Dude betrays friends for personal gain. Even when Franklin is about to kill him, he tries to change Franklin's mind by saying that they should eliminate Trevor. Michael is a betrayer, manipulating and then backstabbing others. That's the only thing I like about him. He cares about his piece of s**t family, has a childish attraction towards Solomon Richards and movies, and how did he allow himself to be captured by the Triads? Basically, he has more boring qualities than interesting ones.

 

But compared to the other two, he is the most I'd like to play as. A rich, middle-aged white dude, with an impressive car collection, private hangar, dockyard, helipad and chain of theaters and owns a coutry club. That's what I really like to play as.

[UshaB]

Michael's awesome. Sue me.

 

Alright, just send me your address and credit card details please.

 

Thank you.

[chilleverest]

OG Loc was annoying alright, but in a genius way, even for a cameo, the guy was well written and had character.

[B Dawg]

I'll take Lance Vance and Phil Cassidy over boring Clothes ironing Franklin and one-note 'totul Syko' Trevor Phillips any day.

Anyone who doesn't take Lance Vance Dance and Phil over V protagonists need to have their arm blown off

Edited September 20, 2015 by B Dawg

[Queen Elizabeth II]

Well, he is the best out of worst protagonists.

[Xing of Virtue]

"You guys make an honest killer like me sick."

 

Michael Townley

[Fuzzknuckles]

Michael is an awful character, a detestable whining piece of sh*t that radiates bore-rays, lulling me with their soporific power, turning my brain to mush as he trudges through his dreadful existence.

 

You are not alone.

 

I had high hopes for Michael, as he was clearly going to be the Neil McCauley (Heat) of the piece - the experienced career heist man, the legendary criminal. But he was a fat boring old duffer with a dysfunctional-by-numbers family. The ex-stripper, pro-shopper, tart with a heart wife who's f*cking her tennis instructor (among others), the fat, lazy, stoner-gamer son, the wannabe-star daughter and the non-specific latin American maid. Everything about Michael is a tedious cliche.

 

And he just gets worse and worse as the story goes on. He becomes more difficult to sympathise with as he's falling back into the life because he's bored, but complains about being back in the life. This is mainly driven by the presence of Trevor, but he brought that on himself by being a ridiculous show off.

 

When Michael meets Solomon, a new set of switch animations is opened up, centered around the studios. We see him humiliating and degrading a security guard, reminding the security guard that he's the boss. He's not, though, is he? He doesn't work at the studio. He just helped Solomon out and got his name on the movie, but Michael seems to think this elevates him to some kind of actual movie-maker. But he's just a jumped up little prick, waving his metaphorical cock around, acting like everyone should be singing his name in praise. Even when everything falls down around him and he repents, he's still the same arsehole, wallowing in self pity and generally being a dick.

 

No, you are not the only one that hates Michael. He's incredibly unsympathetic and even as an anti-hero, someone you can't root for. Throw Trevor into the mix and...

 

Well, I pretty much only have time for Franklin.

[Official General]

Even though he is my favorite (i will elaborate on that a bit later) I actually kinda see him being similar to Dmitri, he betrayed his best friend and one of the last things Niko said to him "I guess the survival of the fittest thing really meant a lot to you" kinda solidified him as being similar to Dmitri if the player chooses the Kill Trevor ending.

 

As for why he's my favorite, I don't know. I kinda relate and sympathize with him. I know he's egotistic but he owns up to it when Trevor points it out, he tries to do better. The reason he keeps complaining is because of his horrible childhood and his obsession with movies giving him a delusion that his life is supposed to be like a Vinewood action star. In many ways, I feel sorry for him and feel happy when everything goes well for him and his family (depending on the ending). He keeps complaining about his family but he feels absolutely depressed when they leave him meaning despite all the complaints, he still loves them. And I think he's rather badass for doing a lot of high action crazy sh*t despite his age, he does some pretty over the top and high octane stuff in the game. I think the reason people compare him to Tommy is because he would probably who Tommy would become after the end of Vice City, the reason I like him over Tommy is because he has a (very flawed) personality, unlike Tommy's cookie cutter, boring, badass non-personality. I played Vice City multiple times and I still think Tommy is just boring with barely any personality, only defined by threatening people and building his empire. I know what he does but by the end of the game, I don't know who he is.

Lol this is funny. So Michael is 'better' than Tommy because, let's see.....

 

Michael has a family and they give him problems, oh wow, so interesting. He endlessly moans and complains about his life and needs to see a psychiatrist, ooooh I'm so intrigued, look at how deep he is. He's a middle aged man that still robs banks and gets involved in action-packed moments - reminds me of some corny ass 1980s action hero man on a TV show, so cool right ? Ha ha don't make laugh even more.

 

So what did you expect Tommy to be ? Some complex, deep character out of a Shakespeare play ? He's a Mafioso, that's what they are all about, money, power and respect - everything Tommy symbolised. What made Tommy so great as a GTA protagonist was that his character and story was simple, and straightforward, but yet very effective - and if done right, this method works so well, and it did with Tommy. A low-level mobster with a murderous instinct, ruthless drive and ambition arrives in a new city with grand plans to take over the local underworld and create a powerful and rich criminal empire. All done with great finesse and style. That is what made VC so entertaining and engrossing, and Tommy so popular. That's all it was ever supposed to be, nothing more. What just because Tommy didn't have a family and see a shrink you find him less interesting ? Ok well it's your opinion, but I can't take it seriously after reading this joke of a post you just wrote.

 

How you can even compare Michael to Tommy is joke in itself.

 

@ Midnight Hitman

 

Off topic, I just saw your profile image about Mortal Kombat fatality move so funny ha ha ha ha ha !!!! Loooool !!!

Edited September 20, 2015 by Official General