Giantsgiants Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Showing some love for the Vestra: 2Good4U, Hunter and Smooth Longsack 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Longsack Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Showing some love for the Vestra: Man i love it when mine spawns in white and peach. I think it's the second color scheme in the vestra spawn cycle. LOVE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aether Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Are any of you by any chance on the X1, and are you down to dogfight? Gamertag is "zV Tempest Vz" if anyone is interested. Edited September 13, 2015 by zVI Jackal IVz Smooth Longsack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JON22 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 My missile launcher rocket appreciates jets a little too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Longsack Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) My missile launcher rocket appreciates jets a little too much.You couldn't hit half the people in this thread with the hl if they were eating a sandwich and flying one handed. Round and round we go. https://youtu.be/6B2ND3J4d8E"]https://youtu.be/6B2ND3J4d8E Edited September 13, 2015 by Smooth Longsack Daemian, Hunter, Mattoropael and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Longsack Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Are any of you by any chance on the X1, and are you down to dogfight? Gamertag is "zV Tempest Vz" if anyone is interested. Add me. Beauty Longsack. I'm always down to learn some new tricks and not afraid of droppingmy kd to do so. I'm in line of sight and hiii power. Would love to have someone with your experience in the crew as well. Anybody with a kd over 2.0 is welcome to message/add me about getting into the crew. I mainly play with line of sight and we absolutely crush lobbies. You don't have to have a 2.0 kd but it should be close and you should be able to show us, via the kill feed, what you're capable of. I know the kd requirement seems shallow, and it is but we're a warring crew. Our rivals are hiii power, the n9ne and the ewox. I'm not the very best dogfighter but i really am one of the best at killing ground targets from a jet. My friends love the close air support. Ok, it sounds like I'm really talking myself up so I'll end by saying i suck sometimes. Eta- we don't just fly jets either. Some of our rng players are the best I've ever seen. My gtabff (ghilliemaster16 on this forum) is the best ground pounder i know. He's got a thread on the new tank sniping method. Dude is a beast and here is his thread: http://gtaforums.com/topic/812360-tank-sniping-is-back/ We're just a war crew with standards. Edited September 14, 2015 by Smooth Longsack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Just an idea, but if you had two people in a Vestra, could it be an effective combat vehicle? The pilot swoops in close to people on the ground like they would in a jet, while the passenger uses auto aim while close enough? I haven't had the opportunity to test it myself, just curious to see if anyone else has/if it's even possible. I can imagine the homing launcher would make it too difficult, the Vestra's fast and agile for a non - jet plane, but maybe not fast enough. Smooth Longsack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Longsack Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Just an idea, but if you had two people in a Vestra, could it be an effective combat vehicle? The pilot swoops in close to people on the ground like they would in a jet, while the passenger uses auto aim while close enough? I haven't had the opportunity to test it myself, just curious to see if anyone else has/if it's even possible. I can imagine the homing launcher would make it too difficult, the Vestra's fast and agile for a non - jet plane, but maybe not fast enough.Lol. I'd love to try. I can fly the vestra slower than the tank drives and land it almost anywhere on the map. Also, as a diligent pilot on cg, i would have passive mode selected and ready to implement of me and my aircrew were in danger. I'm not above cheap tactics. Speaking of landings, this is a great thread made by retired mafia that deserves more competition. http://gtaforums.com/topic/803484-the-plane-landing-tag-game/ Edited September 14, 2015 by Smooth Longsack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhillieMaster Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just an idea, but if you had two people in a Vestra, could it be an effective combat vehicle? The pilot swoops in close to people on the ground like they would in a jet, while the passenger uses auto aim while close enough? I haven't had the opportunity to test it myself, just curious to see if anyone else has/if it's even possible. I can imagine the homing launcher would make it too difficult, the Vestra's fast and agile for a non - jet plane, but maybe not fast enough. Lol. I'd love to try. I can fly the vestra slower than the tank drives and land it almost anywhere on the map. Also, as a diligent pilot on cg, i would have passive mode selected and ready to implement of me and my aircrew were in danger. I'm not above cheap tactics. Speaking of landings, this is a great thread made by retired mafia that deserves more competition. http://gtaforums.com/topic/803484-the-plane-landing-tag-game/OMG, were trying this later! Smooth Longsack and Hunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSweatySphincter Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Free roam killing NEVER gets old G4M6L3, Shaundi., Bragster and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Longsack Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Free roam killing NEVER gets old Lolololol. Wasn't expecting this vid to be that good. That's EXACTLY how it goes. I almost never speak on the mic just because of this. LOL EXACTLY THIS. Cryptic Entries 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarimboHanky Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It does feel good when you take out an armed aircraft with the cannons. How long have we had target locks on players in vehicles?? Took the savage out and ended up paying bout 100 grand out in insurance! Wtf has 24000 insurance anyway????? you blew up an osiris! My missile launcher rocket appreciates jets a little too much. You couldn't hit half the people in this thread with the hl if they were eating a sandwich and flying one handed. Round and round we go. -youtube video- thats the best thing, dodging homing missiles! yesterday i landed in a lobby and i notice a bunch of people in the beach, by the way they were talking sounded like it was a car meet, a meet in a open lobby haha i spawned at my airport garage, called my hydra, when off radar and sprayed the sh*t out the meet, feels good when you have 10 players shooting homing missiles while you just go around, dive and spray! amassed some 34 kills before they realize they realize the homing launcher wont get the job done and left the session haha Free roam killing NEVER gets old -youtube video- that was awesome. sucks to be on the receiving end! StangOne50 and Smooth Longsack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 My missile launcher rocket appreciates jets a little too much. I think is is an established fact among jet pilots that people who rely solely on their homing launcher are food. Hunter, Smooth Longsack and Daemian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Lp_ Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Got this nice shot when one of my team mates crashed during the EMP setup, Rotary, LeonTheKiller, Mattoropael and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just an idea, but if you had two people in a Vestra, could it be an effective combat vehicle? The pilot swoops in close to people on the ground like they would in a jet, while the passenger uses auto aim while close enough? I haven't had the opportunity to test it myself, just curious to see if anyone else has/if it's even possible. I can imagine the homing launcher would make it too difficult, the Vestra's fast and agile for a non - jet plane, but maybe not fast enough. Lol. I'd love to try. I can fly the vestra slower than the tank drives and land it almost anywhere on the map. Also, as a diligent pilot on cg, i would have passive mode selected and ready to implement of me and my aircrew were in danger. I'm not above cheap tactics. Speaking of landings, this is a great thread made by retired mafia that deserves more competition. http://gtaforums.com/topic/803484-the-plane-landing-tag-game/ I don't know how well it'd work, but I think the Vestra would be the only plane fast enough. Even then, I'm not too sure if it would shake off homing launcher missiles well. I can imagine the same tactic possibly working well with a Cargobob too. Wouldn't be able to dodge missiles, but you could hide behind buildings. Also, the Cargobob can survive a homing launcher missile, and has bulletproof glass, so if it works well the Cargobob might even turn out to be a better attack helicopter than the actual attack helicopters (since they don't have proper armour). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningLord Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Yay! A jet thread! I've been having a growing love for aviation since Summer and I've been so into jets since then. Most of my time in this game nowadays is spent flying. Wish there were more jets in this game, though. Edited September 14, 2015 by LightningLord Mattoropael, Hunter, Aether and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridl0k Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Wish there were more jets in this game, though. I love my jets too but that's a bit of a stretch, we have 3 bizjets 1 707-style miljet single seat trainer fighter (can't be bought) jump jet twin-seat personal jet I probably even forgot 1 or 2. What more do you want? I've been flying the Hydra since it came out, am still learning but I've switched to the Savage to get good on that. Try that - flying low (losing paint to treetops) like it's supposed to, and going from target to target, it's much more powerful than most players make it look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowmurder-ysdet Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It does feel good when you take out an armed aircraft with the cannons. How long have we had target locks on players in vehicles?? Took the savage out and ended up paying bout 100 grand out in insurance! Wtf has 24000 insurance anyway????? you blew up an osiris! My missile launcher rocket appreciates jets a little too much. You couldn't hit half the people in this thread with the hl if they were eating a sandwich and flying one handed. Round and round we go. -youtube video-thats the best thing, dodging homing missiles! yesterday i landed in a lobby and i notice a bunch of people in the beach, by the way they were talking sounded like it was a car meet, a meet in a open lobby haha i spawned at my airport garage, called my hydra, when off radar and sprayed the sh*t out the meet, feels good when you have 10 players shooting homing missiles while you just go around, dive and spray! amassed some 34 kills before they realize they realize the homing launcher wont get the job done and left the session haha Free roam killing NEVER gets old -youtube video- that was awesome. sucks to be on the receiving end!Why you had to be an a*shole to those players btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockmasterGTA Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It does feel good when you take out an armed aircraft with the cannons. How long have we had target locks on players in vehicles?? Took the savage out and ended up paying bout 100 grand out in insurance! Wtf has 24000 insurance anyway????? you blew up an osiris! My missile launcher rocket appreciates jets a little too much. You couldn't hit half the people in this thread with the hl if they were eating a sandwich and flying one handed. Round and round we go. -youtube video- thats the best thing, dodging homing missiles! yesterday i landed in a lobby and i notice a bunch of people in the beach, by the way they were talking sounded like it was a car meet, a meet in a open lobby haha i spawned at my airport garage, called my hydra, when off radar and sprayed the sh*t out the meet, feels good when you have 10 players shooting homing missiles while you just go around, dive and spray! amassed some 34 kills before they realize they realize the homing launcher wont get the job done and left the session haha Free roam killing NEVER gets old -youtube video- that was awesome. sucks to be on the receiving end!Why you had to be an a*shole to those players btw? He just jealous cause you own a P-996 Lazer that you bought from Warstock Cache and Carry. Mattoropael, Smooth Longsack, CarimboHanky and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Tiger~ Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm quite proud of the fact that I can land a 747 at the Sandy Shores airstrip. The secret is a long, straight. low approach and to remember to retard engines well before landing, rather than smashing onto the runway. Come back when you managed to land at Grapeseed landing strip. Ok buddy; here ya go.... GTAKid667, Th3MaN1, CaptainMental and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Longsack Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Wish there were more jets in this game, though. I love my jets too but that's a bit of a stretch, we have 3 bizjets 1 707-style miljet single seat trainer fighter (can't be bought) jump jet twin-seat personal jet I probably even forgot 1 or 2. What more do you want? I've been flying the Hydra since it came out, am still learning but I've switched to the Savage to get good on that. Try that - flying low (losing paint to treetops) like it's supposed to, and going from target to target, it's much more powerful than most players make it look. I want a besra style jet with something like the technical gun (forward facing though) and i want it to be a two seater. Hunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Wish there were more jets in this game, though. I love my jets too but that's a bit of a stretch, we have 3 bizjets 1 707-style miljet single seat trainer fighter (can't be bought) jump jet twin-seat personal jet I probably even forgot 1 or 2. What more do you want? I've been flying the Hydra since it came out, am still learning but I've switched to the Savage to get good on that. Try that - flying low (losing paint to treetops) like it's supposed to, and going from target to target, it's much more powerful than most players make it look. I want a besra style jet with something like the technical gun (forward facing though) and i want it to be a two seater. Would be hilarious to cherry-tap the average rubbish free roam jet pilot with it. Hunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Longsack Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 ^^^ that's what I'm saying! I want the two seats so someone can witness the awesomeness. Cjs3315, Mattoropael and Hunter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeve613 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Any tips to shorten the endless circling dogfight? I can dodge the missles just fine but when it comes to the guns it seems to be luck if i hit them, we just go back and forth circling around. Use the rudder while turning but turn downwards a little to perform a kind of small swoop. By doing this, you'll gradually end up having him in front of you if he keeps circling. Very true. I win good chunk of my dogfights precisely because I use the rudder to to slide downwards in a turn and gradually cut inside the other guy's turn, which ends up giving me a gunshot if he keeps holding his turn. Another side effect is that this can often force the engagement down to lower altitudes while keeping you out of his line of sight, which makes situational awareness and the ability to avoid terrain even more crucial. I've used this to make several people crash, particularly when flying the Besra where hitting them or making them hit the ground are your only real options. Any tips to shorten the endless circling dogfight? I can dodge the missles just fine but when it comes to the guns it seems to be luck if i hit them, we just go back and forth circling around. It all depends on your enemies speed. In the typical circular dog fight one person is usually at full afterburner. If this is so just hit the air brakes to tighten your turn radius. If they get far enough away but you can't get right behind them, try turning in the opposite way with an inside turn (toward the belly of your hydra/lazer). So an "S" shaped turn without rolling the plane. Full afterburner should only be engaged to maintain your desired speed or when you get behind them and they try to pull/straighten out of the typical circular dogfight. This is the other big factor that lets me win so many dogfights. The relation between airspeed, turn radius, and altitude is practically second nature to me after having played so many flight combat games, whereas I see lots of people who just hold down the throttle in afterburner constantly. I often don't even have to airbrake at all, I when I see a purple afterburner plume on the guy I am turning with I know I can get away with just letting off the throttle completely because I know I will turn inside him in a few seconds. Another tip is using the landing gear. Combined with the airbrakes, it can slow you down in a hurry when need be. It also lowers your idle throttle speed a bit. which can be useful for some ground targets. The gear should NOT be used in a dogfight though, because even though it will slow you down, it won't let you turn any more tightly and makes you more sluggish. If you can manage to do it while dogfighting, using the Off the Radar function can be a game-changer, because lots of players seem to rely on the minimap more than actually using the camera to see their opponent's position by physically looking at their jet. Personally, I enjoy Hydra vs. Hydra fights the most, because the slow acceleration and braking of it make conserving airspeed and directing momentum more important than in the Lazer. 2Good4U and Smooth Longsack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huckmonkey Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 What makes this 'official'? Is there an inofficial thread for this topic? This.Not good in jets? This thread ain't for you. Move along and don't be bothered. What makes this 'official'? Is there an inofficial thread for this topic?I find that a homing missile is a good way to get the jet you've already gained position on to turn. Thus, losing speed and entering cannon range for the kill.I use this. Definatly a good tactic. Smooth Longsack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarimboHanky Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 -snip- Why you had to be an a*shole to those players btw?one dont just get to wear this by being nice to people... Smooth Longsack, LeonTheKiller, StangOne50 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affalterbach Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I hope they add new spawn locations for the Jet when you call for it via Pegasus. Maybe on Eclipse Towers roof or something. Shadowmurder-ysdet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huckmonkey Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Any tips to shorten the endless circling dogfight? I can dodge the missles just fine but when it comes to the guns it seems to be luck if i hit them, we just go back and forth circling around. Use the rudder while turning but turn downwards a little to perform a kind of small swoop. By doing this, you'll gradually end up having him in front of you if he keeps circling.^This is correct. The trick is finding that tightes turn radius, and using slight randomness to throw off your opponent. I find that the tightest turn is very slightly faster than idle. Two ways to get that is by slightly tapping throttle, or adding a slight swoop to your circle. Slightly tapping throttle(while using rudder) tightens your turn. A slight random swoop will do the same thing and possibly confuse your opponent for a moment. By doing this you slowly gain ground either getting behind them, or preasuring them to break or crash. Watch closly for that break because ot could be your chance. The riskiest thing you can do is to make a drastic change in the flight pattern(although it could be your last hope). You are trying to slowly get behind your opponent, or put enough preasure to force them to make a mistake, or break the circle first. It is intense, and you have to be able to be pacient and calm, and work every angle while you wait for the slightest opportunity. Also... I would say I fly 70% by radar when in action. Smooth Longsack and 33Jetson23 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSweatySphincter Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm no where close to being as good as those people on youtube. I want to master the Jet to the point where I can terrorize an entire session at will. Still have lots of practice to do, and when/if I reach that level I want to make a youtube series: Diary of A Jet Griefer. But for now, I'm still below average A Paradox from 94 and Smooth Longsack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowmurder-ysdet Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 -snip- Why you had to be an a*shole to those players btw?one dont just get to wear this by being nice to people...Lol ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
