Modojo Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) What part of "no more updates for old gen" is so hard for people to understand? They didn't say "no more updates EXCEPT", they said "NO MORE" Since it went over your head, let me clear things up... I was pointing out that the last-gen consoles could handle a few more added cars. The reason they're not included isn't due to technical limitations - it's because Rockstar didn't want to add them. You understand now? Even if they did include cars, it wouldn't actually be considered DLC content to them because every update always comes in bulk and it will continue to get bigger in the later updates. You can't order a mint mojito with no mint; the same thing applies to GTAO updates. Edited November 2, 2015 by Modojo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I am surprised to see that LG players are OK for no more support in terms of patching / fixing of the game. Its wrong on R* part to not forward the updates which correct certain issues over to LG customers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Eh. I find it lame that they don't even take the time to patch some of the game's most important bugs and glitches, but I guess it had to happen sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClareXoBearrx3R9 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) This is like bitching at Microsoft for not providing anymore updates for Windows XP. The last generation consoles are outdated, get over it. You really expect a sane company to waste more time and money on systems that have 512 MB of RAM or less? Deal with it and get over it. Time to upgrade and if you can't afford it, then deal with it. People don't go bitching because Microsoft isn't supporting Windows 2000 anymore, at this day and age. Edited November 2, 2015 by ClareXoBearrx3 Igor Bogdanoff and Nah nah nah Gta 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 @ ClareXoBearrx3 It seems like you believe all successive versions of Windows, XP onwards, be W7, W8.1, W10 are just basically the same thing with better looks and polish, but nothing new or modern that Windows XP can't handle. So, why upgrade then? In case of LG and NG GTA V, its basically the same game with better looks and polish, that's all. The returning content is just a bonus for old players which new players don't receive anyways. Go and check out Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Edition on how to handle such re-releases with the right improvements and additions that makes sense to finally bury the old edition and call it quits. DO:S EE is a complete overhaul with new voices, lines, tweaked story, ending, new difficulty mode, and other changes. On the other hand, GTA V seems mostly cosmetic on surface and hardly any significant changes to the actual gameplay making it worth buying like a SP DLC, outside the FPS gimmick that I don't even care about. Director Mode is the only thing that's worth for considering your time, but its too limited to just a scenario at any given point and doesn't bring much dynamic variety to introduce more activities, missions, and things to engage in playing it over and over again w/o DM. In short, LG still should have received the patches, at the very least, since its still the same game on NG version with nothing interesting to justify the full price for double dipping as far as SP goes, until they release a SP DPC with a complete edition to make sense for buying it again on NG and stop supporting the LG mp412rex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarnageRacing00 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 What part of "no more updates for old gen" is so hard for people to understand? They didn't say "no more updates EXCEPT", they said "NO MORE" Since it went over your head, let me clear things up... I was pointing out that the last-gen consoles could handle a few more added cars. The reason they're not included isn't due to technical limitations - it's because Rockstar didn't want to add them. You understand now? Actually, it's entirely possible that it's due to technical limitations. You don't know what Rockstar has had to do to cram more stuff into the old versions of the game - you THINK it's as easy as just adding more cars and clothing, but you don't KNOW. I'm sure hey could have put the two new cars in, but they had to stop somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 They can add them but with lesser details and such. I mean, how are the existing f*ckin' content, be cars and/or weapons on LG are running with those poor RAM? Huh?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlk232 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 They can add them but with lesser details and such. I mean, how are the existing f*ckin' content, be cars and/or weapons on LG are running with those poor RAM? Huh?? Doesn't work that way, bro. I agree it's bs for them not even to do bugfixes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 It works. Rockstar has admitted in the earlier newswire post explaining why they don't want to bring those content on LG simply because they are created with details in mind not suitable for LG without downgrading them. rlk232 and Officer620 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 They can add them but with lesser details and such. I mean, how are the existing f*ckin' content, be cars and/or weapons on LG are running with those poor RAM? Huh?? Are you trying to say why are the current things in LG able to be on LG? It's kinda hard go read your posts, but if so: Because they used the remaining resources...? Lol. Took me a lot of time to figure that one out, I must say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 What? All I am trying to say is, there's a difference between adding new features like missions, activities, etc, and something on top of a current type of item already in place like cars, weapons, etc. How can console limit the amount of items you can add to a particular type? Like Hines said in an interview related to FO4: "Bethesda will dial back graphics in favour of complex systems" Similarly it should work for a bunch of cars, and extra weapons, too, which I don't think are as complex as the ones currently seen in LG outside the additional details on them to make it look more impressive with better cosmetics and effects possible only through the power of NG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoxX Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 What? All I am trying to say is, there's a difference between adding new features like missions, activities, etc, and something on top of a current type of item already in place like cars, weapons, etc. How can console limit the amount of items you can add to a particular type? Like Hines said in an interview related to FO4: "Bethesda will dial back graphics in favour of complex systems" Similarly it should work for a bunch of cars, and extra weapons, too, which I don't think are as complex as the ones currently seen in LG outside the additional details on them to make it look more impressive with better cosmetics and effects possible only through the power of NG. This is extra time invested in just "making content suitable for LG" that alone is bs. Also compromising graphics EVEN MORE?! Have you ever played on LastGen?! Graphics ALLREADY Have been compromised in Online, even more? No thats not possible. Its a FACT Last Gen would and was limiting R* and this limiting factor is now gone for good KashKashMania and Igor Bogdanoff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KashKashMania Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 What's it matter anyway? Microsoft is shutting off the 360 servers in 2016 (apparently February is being thrown around) and i doubt R* will even keep the PS3 servers up after that. If they did I'd be surprised, and that's if Sony doesn't shut them down first. We already know R* has no intent of putting any SP content out any time soon, however it's not completely off the stove, just pushed to the back burner, but the likelihood of anything for SP coming out before February 2016 is so unlikely it's pathetic, and I doubt R* would even make it compatible for LG. Give up, your consoles are outdated. Your frustration is unwarranted. R* told everyone at least twice that PS3/360 would eventually no longer recieve content, and they told us the first time a year before the Freeroam Events update. They started truly utilizing and executing that point with things like gun skins. Be glad you got over a year of frequent, free content updates, understand that you don't know anything about game design, and that even PC's have requirements to run GTA:V/Online, and at least if you ever decide to upgrade to PS4/XB1/PC you can transfer your online status to your new console even if you don't stay within the same console family. Also, I have to ask, are you also mad that no other developer is making games for your consoles either or are you just mad that R* isn't providing updates to you after almost 2 full years? UltraGizmo64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flachbau Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) What's it matter anyway? Microsoft is shutting off the 360 servers in 2016 (apparently February is being thrown around) Sorry to burst your bubble, but there's no way it'll be that soon. They still make money off of it, and it's most likely a large portion of income as well. Don't be silly. No offense, but you're just repeating everything that has been said already. Also, I'm not really angry about it considering I don't even own a console anymore. Edited November 2, 2015 by Android mp412rex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KashKashMania Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 What's it matter anyway? Microsoft is shutting off the 360 servers in 2016 (apparently February is being thrown around) Sorry to burst your bubble, but there's no way it'll be that soon. They still make money off of it, and it's most likely a large portion of income as well. Don't be silly. No offense, but you're just repeating everything that has been said already. Also, I'm not really angry about it considering I don't even own a console anymore. Microsoft announced they would "support Xbox 360 for three years before phasing it out in 2016" Sony only planned a 10 year life cycle for PS3 (and they said it 5 years ago) and 10 years is in 2016. So, yes it will be that soon. It may not come in February 2016, but it'll surely be before January 2017. Well if I'm repeating anything it's because it's the truth and if people still aren't understanding it then it's their own fault and they need to grow up and understand technology has limitations, even PC's have limitations and requirements needed to play GTA:V/Online. Apple doesn't push updates to their outdated phones anymore either, because why? Because device limitations. I will admit the PS4 and XB1 are just upgraded versions of the PS3/360 with things like more standard memory, processing power, graphics, etc, but the technology in them is still upgraded. If you're not angry then my question does not apply to you. Osho and UltraGizmo64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I didn't know about the support from console manufacturers itself is going to die off soon. I have to admit you have proved me wrong with a strong reason to upgrade to the newer systems. KashKashMania and UltraGizmo64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flachbau Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) It's a public forum, dude. Your question can apply to anyone. Edited November 2, 2015 by Android Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KashKashMania Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I didn't know about the support from console manufacturers itself is going to die off soon. I have to admit you have proved me wrong with a strong reason to upgrade to the newer systems. TBH I didn't know about Sony until tonight when I was looking for the 360 articles, i guess we all learned something new tonight. I mean it sucks but I upgraded from ps3 to ps4 and to me it was worth it. I'm not even talking just for GTA:V but for all the other games that are coming out. Just cause 3 & Mafia 3 coming out this year and next, I'm debating on getting Destiny but a lot of my friends play it and say it's worth it, I loved the Infamous series and love Second Son and First Light, and Mad Max wasn't bad, it went by quick but it was fun in that demolition derby way and I have to admit vehicular combat is seriously fun and I kinda wish R* would take some notes. Even if you don't play online sony still let's you use apps like Netflix and Amazon Prime Video and even Microsoft has moved a lot of features out from behind the paywall now, so it's pretty much down to which 3 exclusive app groupings do you like more, the ones on XB1 or the ones on PS4? Or which console family are you already in/the majority of your friends on? PS+ isn't even that much though at $60/year and it;s even cheaper if you do like me and wait for it to go on sale on amazon and I only ended up paying $45 for a year and I ended up buying 3 years worth which stacks so I don't have to worry about it until 2017 I think? I say save up, you've got some time left before everything shuts down, yeah you'll miss out on the Halloween stuff, but let's be honest it's not THAT great. Plus once you upgrade it'll be like christmas because of all the new cool stuff you'll get all at once, and that's besides the exclusive stuff from being a returning player. It's a public forum, dude. Your question can apply to anyone. I'll take that as "I'm sorry I talked out of my ass*ole instead of doing a quick Google search about the life expectancies of the consoles." and I accept your apology. UltraGizmo64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flachbau Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 You'd be wrong thinking it was an apology. Find me a credible source and then maybe I'll think about offering you one. Until then, get off your high horse bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KashKashMania Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 You'd be wrong thinking it was an apology. Find me a credible source and then maybe I'll think about offering you one. Until then, get off your high horse bro. 360: IGN & Geek.com & Latinos Post all said the same thing as the other sources I listed, 360 is being phased out in 2016 because they all heard it from Microsoft's Chief Marketing guy at the Citi Global Technology Conference in 2013 and Microsoft hasn't come out and said otherwise. PS3: Bloomberg & 1up.com & Gameinsdustry.biz all said the same thing about Sony and how it's got half way through it's life at 5 years old. Then there's the fact that developers left and right are announcing they're no longer working on games for PS3/360 so even if Sony and Microsoft will continue to support PS3 and 360 no one's going to be making games for them so why would the manufacturers support them when there's no new games coming out for them. Ubisoft announced this back in May of this year along with Activision saying the same thing a day later. Activision released the new Tony Hawk game on LG and CG but LG doesn't get the multiplayer feature that CG does. How can I be on a high horse when I'm just telling you what Microsoft said over 2 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr!minal Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Live services for Xbox 360 won't be shut down anytime soon for one simple reason - the recently announced backwards compatibility on Xbox One. Xbox 360 virtualization on XB1 uses Xbox 360 backend (OS and core services) and is dependent on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland stronk Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Live services for Xbox 360 won't be shut down anytime soon for one simple reason - the recently announced backwards compatibility on Xbox One. Xbox 360 virtualization on XB1 uses Xbox 360 backend (OS and core services) and is dependent on that. It will be. The reason why they announced that is because people will have a good reason to switch to One as they will be able to play all their old games like nothing happened but M$ will save a lot money with this by ending support to X360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I thought we are talking about single player. Do Xbox users need Live account to even play offline mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I thought we are talking about single player. Do Xbox users need Live account to even play offline mode? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Then SP users have no good reason to not upgrade to X1. Christmas is the best time for the best deal. Edited November 2, 2015 by Osho Dangerous and sad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Bogdanoff Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) IIRC M$ won't shut down 360 servers for long time now due to backwards compatibility on xbox one. Edit: always miss one post. Edit2: anyway: 360: IGN & Geek.com & Latinos Post all said the same thing as the other sources I listed, 360 is being phased out in 2016 because they all heard it from Microsoft's Chief Marketing guy at the Citi Global Technology Conference in 2013 and Microsoft hasn't come out and said otherwise. These are old news, as they didn't know they would have such problems with sale so they would never come up with backward compatibility and others things. Edited November 2, 2015 by Tomasak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flachbau Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Never knew Latinos Post was a highly credited source for gaming news, lol. A.O.D.88, UltraGizmo64 and tom_p1980 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 PS3 shutting down in 2016? Well f*ck me, SP in last gen is boring as f*ck! Dangerous and sad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp412rex Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 They are ending support, meaning they won't update it anymore however the services will still be up and running, considering that BLOPS 3 and rise of the tomb raider are still going to be released for last gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fac316 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 seems like the patches do more harm then good, got rid of them b/c of framerate issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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