Savage armor buff

[mykdisweak-%&879]

Hello to everyone. I made this poll because i wanted to know what do you all think about savage's armor buff idea. Its based on one of the most armoured helicopters in the world but we all know that is not that armored in GTA, on the contrary its more like that it is made of carbon fiber.So if you think a buff would be necessary,do you think it should add the capacity of withstanding multiple rockets,or it should only add the capacity of withstanding at least one rocket or should add the capacity of resisting a lot of bullets but not the capacity of resisting rockets?

[Hunter]

The Savage should never be brought down by handguns and smgs (as it can be now). Assault rifles and MGs should barely scratch it, and it should take a lot more than 2/3 sniper rounds (the Savage pilot already has to focus on avoiding homing launchers, avoiding sniper rifles shouldn't have to be a huge problem).

 

It should take a big gun to damage a Savage, like a minigun, or the guns on the Technical and Insurgent. Even then, it should take more damage off them than it does at the moment (takes barely any at the moment).

 

I think it should survive a missile, but be left smoking, similar to the Cargobob. But if the homing launcher doesn't get nerfed to the point where helicopters have a fair chance of dodging th missiles, then it would probably be fair to let it take two.

[Nick1020]

It should be buffed to where it'll take 3 rockets to take it down.

[DeathStalkr]

Some other weak should get heavily damaged by one rocket, but not blow up. Like so it would be out of control and in flames and the pilot would be forced to crash. It is impossible to bail out of a Valkyrie and survive even if you see the rocket coming and jump before.

 

Most helicopters (except police maverick) should be buffed up, but the Savage should be armored more the others

Edited August 31, 2015 by DeathStalkr

[Shadowfennekin]

It should take at LEAST two rockets, third brings it down. Ridiculous how few bullets it can take before it goes smoking

[Mattoropael]

Gunfire resistance should be increased regardless of the extent or presence of a rocket resistance increase. As it stands it's an absolute joke in free roam, and sometimes it's a joke even in contact missions.

 

Controls should be kept as sluggish as it is right now. This and its massive hitbox should be the only downsides of its firepower.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

i woud only agree with that if the rocket atleast makes the chopper going down in 10 to 30 seconds

this is coming from someone who is a mil mi 24 fanboy kinda, loved the chopper since mgs1.....loved it even more when i turned 14 and started using the internet for fact finding

 

edit: i think anything but explosives shoud do no damage at all though....that beast shoud be able to withstand .50 caliber hits to the rotors and the cockpit

Gunfire resistance should be increased regardless of the extent or presence of a rocket resistance increase. As it stands it's an absolute joke in free roam, and sometimes it's a joke even in contact missions.

 

Controls should be kept as sluggish as it is right now. This and its massive hitbox should be the only downsides of its firepower.

i think it coud use a top speed buff.....the real thing is also great in a straight line.

slugish in turning and all, i agree with.

it also shoud not be able to avoid a homing launcher misile by outruning it ever

Edited August 31, 2015 by goldadderXD

[LordRaijin]

I feel like I got ripped off by purchasing this chopper when a few measly bullets can cause my chopper to smoke up.

[mykdisweak-%&879]

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

i woud only agree with that if the rocket atleast makes the chopper going down in 10 to 30 seconds

this is coming from someone who is a mil mi 24 fanboy kinda, loved the chopper since mgs1.....loved it even more when i turned 14 and started using the internet for fact finding

 

edit: i think anything but explosives shoud do no damage at all though....that beast shoud be able to withstand .50 caliber hits to the rotors and the cockpit

 

Gunfire resistance should be increased regardless of the extent or presence of a rocket resistance increase. As it stands it's an absolute joke in free roam, and sometimes it's a joke even in contact missions.

 

Controls should be kept as sluggish as it is right now. This and its massive hitbox should be the only downsides of its firepower.

 

i think it coud use a top speed buff.....the real thing is also great in a straight line.

slugish in turning and all, i agree with.

it also shoud not be able to avoid a homing launcher misile by outruning it ever

The cargobob can withstand one rocket, why not the savage(which handles worse and is bigger)

Btw it has higher top speed than the buzzard

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

i woud only agree with that if the rocket atleast makes the chopper going down in 10 to 30 seconds

this is coming from someone who is a mil mi 24 fanboy kinda, loved the chopper since mgs1.....loved it even more when i turned 14 and started using the internet for fact finding

 

edit: i think anything but explosives shoud do no damage at all though....that beast shoud be able to withstand .50 caliber hits to the rotors and the cockpit

Gunfire resistance should be increased regardless of the extent or presence of a rocket resistance increase. As it stands it's an absolute joke in free roam, and sometimes it's a joke even in contact missions.

 

Controls should be kept as sluggish as it is right now. This and its massive hitbox should be the only downsides of its firepower.

i think it coud use a top speed buff.....the real thing is also great in a straight line.

slugish in turning and all, i agree with.

it also shoud not be able to avoid a homing launcher misile by outruning it ever

The cargobob can withstand one rocket, why not the savage(which handles worse and is bigger)

Btw it has higher top speed than the buzzard

 

it shoud have a higher top speed then the swift

 

also the cargobob is unarmed and......i realy destroy those still with one shot....last time in may....did any of the igg changed something ?(ps3)

Edited August 31, 2015 by goldadderXD

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

i woud only agree with that if the rocket atleast makes the chopper going down in 10 to 30 seconds

this is coming from someone who is a mil mi 24 fanboy kinda, loved the chopper since mgs1.....loved it even more when i turned 14 and started using the internet for fact finding

 

edit: i think anything but explosives shoud do no damage at all though....that beast shoud be able to withstand .50 caliber hits to the rotors and the cockpit

Gunfire resistance should be increased regardless of the extent or presence of a rocket resistance increase. As it stands it's an absolute joke in free roam, and sometimes it's a joke even in contact missions.

 

Controls should be kept as sluggish as it is right now. This and its massive hitbox should be the only downsides of its firepower.

i think it coud use a top speed buff.....the real thing is also great in a straight line.

slugish in turning and all, i agree with.

it also shoud not be able to avoid a homing launcher misile by outruning it ever

The cargobob can withstand one rocket, why not the savage(which handles worse and is bigger)

Btw it has higher top speed than the buzzard

 

it shoud have a higher top speed then the swift

 

also the cargobob is unarmed and......i realy destroy those still with one shot....last time in may....did any of the igg changed something ?(ps3)

 

 

 

Every now and then a Cargobob goes down in one, but generally they survive a hit. I'm on 360, and I think they made it like this with the heist update. It was a "nerf" to the homing launcher that didn't really do a lot. They said there'd be increased resilience for large capacity aircraft, and so far the Cargobob is the only one I've seen affected by it.

[Arrows to Athens]

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

 

 

Considering that almost everyone and their grandmother has a homing launcher, yes indeed. I've been taken down by numerous homing launchers in a Hydra. This thing can follow you when flying straight up into the sky and can reach a higher top speed than the jet itself. I've found myself blown up into smithereens whilst doing 120 mph down the entire street with curves by a homing launcher. This launcher is insane and needs to be nerfed.

Edited August 31, 2015 by Fearx--

[Hunter]

 

 

 

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

 

 

Considering that almost everyone and their grandmother has a homing launcher, yes indeed. I've been taken down by numerous homing launchers in a Hydra. This thing can follow you when flying straight up into the sky and can reach a higher top speed than the jet itself. I've found myself blown up into smithereens whilst doing 120 mph down the entire streets with curves by a homing launcher. This launcher is insane and needs to be nerfed.

 

 

 

 

In my opinion, the homing launcher just upsets the balance of too many things, even forgetting helicopters.

 

It messes up the tank (look at all the threads asking for it to be buffed). It messes up the Technical. It interferes with boats, casual flying (Dusters, etc.) and it even gets cars and bikes/bicycles.

[SkynetOnlineID]

I want it to be a tank for the sky.

[Goldie-]

I reckon it should take around 5 rockets. (NO Joke) Heres all your info on the mi-24 hind BTW http://gizmodo.com/mi-24-hind-the-flying-russian-crocodile-can-fight-and-507543530

[LordRaijin]

 

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

 

 

Considering that almost everyone and their grandmother has a homing launcher, yes indeed. I've been taken down by numerous homing launchers in a Hydra. This thing can follow you when flying straight up into the sky and can reach a higher top speed than the jet itself. I've found myself blown up into smithereens whilst doing 120 mph down the entire street with curves by a homing launcher. This launcher is insane and needs to be nerfed.

 

 

Aren't the Hydra generally a slower kind of a Jet? Can't expect much of anything other than to have a heavier version of a lazer.

[mykdisweak-%&879]

 

 

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

 

Considering that almost everyone and their grandmother has a homing launcher, yes indeed. I've been taken down by numerous homing launchers in a Hydra. This thing can follow you when flying straight up into the sky and can reach a higher top speed than the jet itself. I've found myself blown up into smithereens whilst doing 120 mph down the entire street with curves by a homing launcher. This launcher is insane and needs to be nerfed.

 

 

Aren't the Hydra generally a slower kind of a Jet? Can't expect much of anything other than to have a heavier version of a lazer.

The homing launcher is easy to avoid with the hydra you just have to fly in circles as soon as you hear the sound and see the rocker.I do it all the time to punish those who use the homing launcher and as soon as they have finished ammo i spawnkill them.Flying in circles is the easiest thing to do in this game and you can dodge infinite amount of homing rockets with this method.

[A Maned Wolf]

 

 

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

 

 

Considering that almost everyone and their grandmother has a homing launcher, yes indeed. I've been taken down by numerous homing launchers in a Hydra. This thing can follow you when flying straight up into the sky and can reach a higher top speed than the jet itself. I've found myself blown up into smithereens whilst doing 120 mph down the entire street with curves by a homing launcher. This launcher is insane and needs to be nerfed.

 

 

Aren't the Hydra generally a slower kind of a Jet? Can't expect much of anything other than to have a heavier version of a lazer.

 

Its the fastest combat jet top speed wise.

The lazer struggles to keep it in sight.

[Daemian]

At least one rocket definitely

[LordRaijin]

 

 

 

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

Considering that almost everyone and their grandmother has a homing launcher, yes indeed. I've been taken down by numerous homing launchers in a Hydra. This thing can follow you when flying straight up into the sky and can reach a higher top speed than the jet itself. I've found myself blown up into smithereens whilst doing 120 mph down the entire street with curves by a homing launcher. This launcher is insane and needs to be nerfed.

 

Aren't the Hydra generally a slower kind of a Jet? Can't expect much of anything other than to have a heavier version of a lazer.

The homing launcher is easy to avoid with the hydra you just have to fly in circles as soon as you hear the sound and see the rocker.I do it all the time to punish those who use the homing launcher and as soon as they have finished ammo i spawnkill them.Flying in circles is the easiest thing to do in this game and you can dodge infinite amount of homing rockets with this method.

 

 

Very intriguing. I never thought of this idea. What I generally do is fly up and down to avoid getting hit with them. Of course I don't visit the public lobby much, but I notice how effective it is during the Hydra mission on the humane labs heist.

[SixGod]

It should definitely be buffed, I think small arms fire shouldn't even damage it, should take a minimum of 2 RPG's and I also heard the Valkyrie has relatively sh*t life, is that true?

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

 

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

Considering that almost everyone and their grandmother has a homing launcher, yes indeed. I've been taken down by numerous homing launchers in a Hydra. This thing can follow you when flying straight up into the sky and can reach a higher top speed than the jet itself. I've found myself blown up into smithereens whilst doing 120 mph down the entire street with curves by a homing launcher. This launcher is insane and needs to be nerfed.

 

Aren't the Hydra generally a slower kind of a Jet? Can't expect much of anything other than to have a heavier version of a lazer.

The homing launcher is easy to avoid with the hydra you just have to fly in circles as soon as you hear the sound and see the rocker.I do it all the time to punish those who use the homing launcher and as soon as they have finished ammo i spawnkill them.Flying in circles is the easiest thing to do in this game and you can dodge infinite amount of homing rockets with this method.

 

Still gets me sometimes regardless.

It should definitely be buffed, I think small arms fire shouldn't even damage it, should take a minimum of 2 RPG's and I also heard the Valkyrie has relatively sh*t life, is that true?

It's no different than the Savage. Though it can withstand more damage before it starts smoking and it's lighter as well.

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

 

 

people want this thing to withstand a rocket ?

wow people are crazy

Considering that almost everyone and their grandmother has a homing launcher, yes indeed. I've been taken down by numerous homing launchers in a Hydra. This thing can follow you when flying straight up into the sky and can reach a higher top speed than the jet itself. I've found myself blown up into smithereens whilst doing 120 mph down the entire street with curves by a homing launcher. This launcher is insane and needs to be nerfed.

 

Aren't the Hydra generally a slower kind of a Jet? Can't expect much of anything other than to have a heavier version of a lazer.

The homing launcher is easy to avoid with the hydra you just have to fly in circles as soon as you hear the sound and see the rocker.I do it all the time to punish those who use the homing launcher and as soon as they have finished ammo i spawnkill them.Flying in circles is the easiest thing to do in this game and you can dodge infinite amount of homing rockets with this method.

 

Still gets me sometimes regardless.

 

It should definitely be buffed, I think small arms fire shouldn't even damage it, should take a minimum of 2 RPG's and I also heard the Valkyrie has relatively sh*t life, is that true?

It's no different than the Savage. Though it can withstand more damage before it starts smoking and it's lighter as well.

 

 

 

The Hydra can dodge homing launcher missiles, but it needs a slightly different method to the Lazer (http://gtaforums.com/topic/811388-how-to-dodge-homing-launcher-missiles-in-a-hydra/).

 

Still doesn't change that it's a completely overpowered weapon though.

[ronniejohnes48]

Yeah, it's too weak.

[SkynetOnlineID]

Still gets me sometimes regardless.

You're not doing it right sometimes.

 

 

Aren't the Hydra generally a slower kind of a Jet? Can't expect much of anything other than to have a heavier version of a lazer.

The Hydra is faster for getting from A to B (and I think higher top speed) but it slows down to a haul if you have the landing gear out or are in hover mode. The Lazer has faster acceleration and it more maneuverable.

 

 

 

It should definitely be buffed, I think small arms fire shouldn't even damage it, should take a minimum of 2 RPG's and I also heard the Valkyrie has relatively sh*t life, is that true?

It's no different than the Savage. Though it can withstand more damage before it starts smoking and it's lighter as well.

 

I was really disappointed when I brought the Valkyrie for free roam. It's not like the one in the heist where it could withstand multiple lock on rockets.

[Hunter]

I made a similar thread about the Savage's armour a while back, and emailed the results to Rockstar at [email protected]

 

90% of people agreed on my thread that it deserved an armour buff, so I hope they took note of that. So far on this thread, 40 out of 44 people agree that it needs some kind of armour buff. So I think mykdisweak-%&879 should email the results of this to Rockstar. I think everyone should actually.

[Arachne]

I agree,we need something to fight against the jets

[iBUCKEYE]

I agree,we need something to fight against the jets

Mini-gun

HS

Rocket launcher

Homing launcher(against scrubs)

[Arachne]

 

I agree,we need something to fight against the jets

Mini-gun

HS

Rocket launcher

Homing launcher(against scrubs)

 

Those only have 10% of chance of destroying jets

Edited August 31, 2015 by Arachne

[Hunter]

 

 

 

I agree,we need something to fight against the jets

Mini-gun

HS

Rocket launcher

Homing launcher(against scrubs)

 

 

 

 

All of those can be avoided via dive bombing though, which means if you're on your own (a jet can't dive bomb multiple people at once), you're basically doomed.