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Tank's speed needs a buff


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The Insurgent does. It's too quick for an armoured vehicle of that size and weight.

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No. Folks prefer a paper mache Tank over an actual Tank armor.

 

 

Reality says a real tank in real life can barely take one-two RPGs. So maybe players don't want to deal with 6 year olds in tanks that take 6 rpgs to blow up, just so they can go passive and run to a new one.

 

That is the reality of what a tank BUFF does. Weaker and cowardly player will simply all use it all the time, just like back in the day.

 

 

 

I mean, did anyone actually like dealing with squeakers in tanks 24/7? Or where most of you not around back then?

 

 

HAHAHAHAAHAHAA

 

PFFFTT f*ckING LMFAO. Dude, I can say with most guaranteed that you have no idea what the f*ck you are talking about. Period, don't make a fool of yourself and speak out of your ass

 

 

ya.. maybe the guys in these tanks didn't get the memo..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pwmdAjePLY

 

 

Rofl, You're talking about a tank that is 44 year old. The tank we have in the game is based on the leopard 2. Also the rocket launcher you showed in that video is a RPG-29 one of the only RPG that can penetrate a MBT armor. You need to be specific when you say RPG, there are a lot of RPG's. And the one we have in the game is a 7 model. not the 29. So if we're going to be technical like you were trying to be. Let's get all of our facts straight.

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No. Folks prefer a paper mache Tank over an actual Tank armor.

 

 

Reality says a real tank in real life can barely take one-two RPGs. So maybe players don't want to deal with 6 year olds in tanks that take 6 rpgs to blow up, just so they can go passive and run to a new one.

 

That is the reality of what a tank BUFF does. Weaker and cowardly player will simply all use it all the time, just like back in the day.

 

 

 

I mean, did anyone actually like dealing with squeakers in tanks 24/7? Or where most of you not around back then?

 

 

HAHAHAHAAHAHAA

 

PFFFTT f*ckING LMFAO. Dude, I can say with most guaranteed that you have no idea what the f*ck you are talking about. Period, don't make a fool of yourself and speak out of your ass

 

 

ya.. maybe the guys in these tanks didn't get the memo..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pwmdAjePLY

 

 

Rofl, You're talking about a tank that is 44 year old. The tank we have in the game is based on the leopard 2. Also the rocket launcher you showed in that video is a RPG-29 one of the only RPG that can penetrate a MBT armor. You need to be specific when you say RPG, there are a lot of RPG's. And the one we have in the game is a 7 model. not the 29. So if we're going to be technical like you were trying to be. Let's get all of our facts straight.

 

Agree.The RPG that we have now is the rpg-7 which can do little to nothing on a modern tank armor.A challenger 2 survivied 70 rockets.70 fu*kin rokets.

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I think the tank is perfect the way it is.

 

I've seen tanks keep up with cars fine, no need to change its speed. It doesn't need to be buffed to its original state either, I still see tanks cause havoc in free roam.

 

Most recently yesterday, a guy in a tank was killing everyone and it seemed those other guys didn't have an Insurgent, Buzzard, Savage, or Hydra. They were just going into passive mode, till I got my Hydra and killed him. Even heard someone say "About time someone destroyed that tank." If you own a tank and can't kill someone 3-5 times before they kill you, you suck.

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Buffing the speed only for defensive purpose not offensive purpose.Also the guys that were being griefed by that tank must really sucksuck if they canto kill that griefer without aircraft.With a tank u can get 4 5 kills before going down and killing them with the hydra is really easy.

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No. Folks prefer a paper mache Tank over an actual Tank armor.

 

 

Reality says a real tank in real life can barely take one-two RPGs. So maybe players don't want to deal with 6 year olds in tanks that take 6 rpgs to blow up, just so they can go passive and run to a new one.

 

That is the reality of what a tank BUFF does. Weaker and cowardly player will simply all use it all the time, just like back in the day.

 

 

 

I mean, did anyone actually like dealing with squeakers in tanks 24/7? Or where most of you not around back then?

 

 

HAHAHAHAAHAHAA

 

PFFFTT f*ckING LMFAO. Dude, I can say with most guaranteed that you have no idea what the f*ck you are talking about. Period, don't make a fool of yourself and speak out of your ass

 

 

ya.. maybe the guys in these tanks didn't get the memo..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pwmdAjePLY

 

 

Rofl, You're talking about a tank that is 44 year old. The tank we have in the game is based on the leopard 2. Also the rocket launcher you showed in that video is a RPG-29 one of the only RPG that can penetrate a MBT armor. You need to be specific when you say RPG, there are a lot of RPG's. And the one we have in the game is a 7 model. not the 29. So if we're going to be technical like you were trying to be. Let's get all of our facts straight.

 

Agree.The RPG that we have now is the rpg-7 which can do little to nothing on a modern tank armor.A challenger 2 survivied 70 rockets.70 fu*kin rokets.

 

 

 

...First off the tank in GTA is called a Rhino and it has unlimited magical ammo supply and can be spawned out of thin air for pocket change. Wether its based of this or that... it doesn't matter. The RPG is just called an RPG, not sure how adding a 7 to the end changes anything.

 

I think you guys seem to forget that this is GTA, not some realistic war simulator. No one gives a sh*t about tanks except war nerds, COD/BF kiddies and free roam chicken sh*ts.

 

The fact is any BUFF to the tanks armor would simply make it used more often for the most basic sh*t. Squeaky little kids, K/D freaks and cowards would all roll in them all day long. And most people who play GTA don't care for fighting tanks all day. Its bad enough with average players in Hyrdas running wild in free roam. Tanks would simply ruin it even more, like it already did back when it was OP.

 

Now, if you liked that sh*t when it was op. Thats your choice. But i don't play online to deal with twankers all the time and most people don't

 

As far as speed goes, the actual point of this topic. Well, if you wanna go faster, stop using a tank. Simple as that.

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increase speed and armor but reduce the turret speed

I agree, tanks in real life can reach 60 mph,

 

 

 

It already goes faster then that in GTA O.

 

 

Erm, no. With a speedometer active, the top speed caps out at 39-45mph. It's based off the Leopard 2, which has a top speed of around 44mph, so I would perhaps say, as far as this topic and speed goes, it's one of the most accurate vehicle in the game.

 

In a perfect world:

Buff the tanks back up to their original, properly armoured state but leave the rear, as usual, as a weak point.

Change firing speed to 1 round per 3 seconds.

Double the damage of the turret.

Allow passenger machine gun ability.

Change unlock rank to 110.

 

And then it'd be much better and much more rewarding. Of course, it's never going to happen, but I think it'd be better than the current.

 

Jets shouldn't be an issue for anyone, but if they are being a constant issue, it's not a bitch move to go off the radar and/ or passive mode, after calling a Merryweather helicopter say, and then bailing out of there to the Fort (etc) to get your own jet to fight back. Purchase a Besra in Singleplayer for extra practice to be better in dogfights.

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increase speed and armor but reduce the turret speed

I agree, tanks in real life can reach 60 mph,

 

 

 

It already goes faster then that in GTA O.

 

 

Erm, no. With a speedometer active, the top speed caps out at 39-45mph.

 

 

Drive next to it with a car, drive the car in 1st person to match and check the speed. I bet it goes faster :D

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DevilDaRebel

 

 

 

 

 

 

No. Folks prefer a paper mache Tank over an actual Tank armor.

 

 

Reality says a real tank in real life can barely take one-two RPGs. So maybe players don't want to deal with 6 year olds in tanks that take 6 rpgs to blow up, just so they can go passive and run to a new one.

 

That is the reality of what a tank BUFF does. Weaker and cowardly player will simply all use it all the time, just like back in the day.

 

 

 

I mean, did anyone actually like dealing with squeakers in tanks 24/7? Or where most of you not around back then?

 

 

HAHAHAHAAHAHAA

 

PFFFTT f*ckING LMFAO. Dude, I can say with most guaranteed that you have no idea what the f*ck you are talking about. Period, don't make a fool of yourself and speak out of your ass

 

 

ya.. maybe the guys in these tanks didn't get the memo..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pwmdAjePLY

 

 

Rofl, You're talking about a tank that is 44 year old. The tank we have in the game is based on the leopard 2. Also the rocket launcher you showed in that video is a RPG-29 one of the only RPG that can penetrate a MBT armor. You need to be specific when you say RPG, there are a lot of RPG's. And the one we have in the game is a 7 model. not the 29. So if we're going to be technical like you were trying to be. Let's get all of our facts straight.

 

Agree.The RPG that we have now is the rpg-7 which can do little to nothing on a modern tank armor.A challenger 2 survivied 70 rockets.70 fu*kin rokets.

 

 

 

...First off the tank in GTA is called a Rhino and it has unlimited magical ammo supply and can be spawned out of thin air for pocket change. Wether its based of this or that... it doesn't matter. The RPG is just called an RPG, not sure how adding a 7 to the end changes anything.

 

I think you guys seem to forget that this is GTA, not some realistic war simulator. No one gives a sh*t about tanks except war nerds, COD/BF kiddies and free roam chicken sh*ts.

 

The fact is any BUFF to the tanks armor would simply make it used more often for the most basic sh*t. Squeaky little kids, K/D freaks and cowards would all roll in them all day long. And most people who play GTA don't care for fighting tanks all day. Its bad enough with average players in Hyrdas running wild in free roam. Tanks would simply ruin it even more, like it already did back when it was OP.

 

Now, if you liked that sh*t when it was op. Thats your choice. But i don't play online to deal with twankers all the time and most people don't

 

As far as speed goes, the actual point of this topic. Well, if you wanna go faster, stop using a tank. Simple as that.

 

 

The tank was OP back then, I semi agree with this. But first of all, we have many things that can counter it now, thus not making it OP anymore if it's reverted back to the old ways.

 

And your little comment about "no one gives a sh*t about tank except nerds blah blah blah" I should teach you some respect boy. First of all, if "No one gives a sh*t about tank" or how it is in real life. Why make that ignorant comment about how tanks in real life can't take 2 RPG hits? You're a really ignorant person m8. I'm done with you.

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No. Folks prefer a paper mache Tank over an actual Tank armor.

 

Reality says a real tank in real life can barely take one-two RPGs. So maybe players don't want to deal with 6 year olds in tanks that take 6 rpgs to blow up, just so they can go passive and run to a new one.

 

That is the reality of what a tank BUFF does. Weaker and cowardly player will simply all use it all the time, just like back in the day.

 

 

 

I mean, did anyone actually like dealing with squeakers in tanks 24/7? Or where most of you not around back then?

Nope. It was also the money being spent to actually destroy one too

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No it doesn't it's fine as it is, when I'm driving the tank it feels like it can reach speeds as high as 35mph which is really good for a tank, at least it feels like that to me.

 

What it needs is an armor buff, the tanks armor is way to weak right now. The Rhino is supposed to be a heavy tank, which as I recall are supposed to be slow but amazingly powerful. The only real changes that I think need to be made are to it's armor and to it's gun, as mentioned before it's armor performs like it was constructed in a paper mache project and the gun should actually fire tank shells instead of what are practically grenades.

 

EDIT: Forgot to a couple of things. After reading a few posts from some people on here it's come to my attention that barely anyone here is aware of how strong tank armor can be.

 

 

Tanks IRL can deflect bullets, shells and take hits from some explosvies like it's nothing. So why should the tank in the game be any different? Exactly. IMO the rhino should be like its real life counterpart (Leopard 2). It's so weak right now it's sad, it doesn't deflect bullets, it doesn't bouce shots from other tanks (even when the tank is angled) and it takes less than 10 rpg hits to destroy it.

 

R* should make it so that from the front its impenetrable to pretty much everything but make the back a weak spot (like on pretty much every other tank ever made), as well as the tracks (hitting them would immobilize it). It should be able to bounce bullets and other shells based on angle (if you face another Rhino head on then it couldn't pen your front armor, as well as you not being able to pen his) and should take little to no damage from any RPG rockets from the front, a little more than a little when hit on its side, and quite a bit on the rear. I'd say that (from the front) it should be able to take 30 rockets or 30 sticky bombs, deflect infinite bullets from the front (including sniper rounds). From the rear it would take roughly a half of the amount of rockets to destroy it (so 15 :dozing:) and only 5 shells or so from another Rhino. To counter this its turret would rotate pretty slowly as well as having a slower reload time.

 

To those of you who are about to shout "THAT'S F*CKING OP", it's not, it's just realistic and to be honest if a little realism is too much for you then I pity you.

 

For starters there would be lots of ways to counter this:

 

- Get a Savage, Hydra, Valkyire or anything else that fires explosive rounds, get behind it and fire, within a few seconds you will have a dead tank, if you don't you're a terrible player.

- Get an RPG or Greande Launcher and fire at the tracks until they're blown off (would take about 4 of 5 rockets or 10 grenades), now since the tank can't move you're free to drive round it and unload a few hits at the back, rinse and repeat until it's destroyed.

- Crash a plane into the back at high speed, might not destroy it but it should damage it quite a bit.

- Request a Merryweather airstrike and have them fire at the back of the tank.

- Get a car plant bombs on it and drive into the back of the tank.

 

Now I understand that it's Grand Theft Auto and not World Of Tanks but it's not OP, at least in a bad way, to have the Rhino perform like an actual tank.

 

 

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If the problem is homing launcher missiles (it is), why not just stop the homing launcher locking on to land vehicles? Makes sense anyway. It doesn't need a speed buff, and could only do with a very minor armour buff - the real problem is that the homing launcher locks on to it.

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The amour needs a buff urgently. Unless you use the off radar Lester thing or people are semi conscious, or AFK, it serves no good purpose. The gun is good, but the armour is a bad joke. Run over some cars or a little explosive and the alarm is sounding. Make it not as strong as originally, but stronger than now. This old GTA feature is useless at present.

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The amour needs a buff urgently. Unless you use the off radar Lester thing or people are semi conscious, or AFK, it serves no good purpose. The gun is good, but the armour is a bad joke. Run over some cars or a little explosive and the alarm is sounding. Make it not as strong as originally, but stronger than now. This old GTA feature is useless at present.

I'd say make it so the tank takes no damage from crushing cars, can't be locked on by the homing launcher, and (optional) can take an extra rpg or two. The old one was too much of a pain in my opinion. But what really messes it up now is the homing launcher and the kamikaze cops.

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I just want to sell it and get some of my money back.

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increase speed and armor but reduce the turret speed

I agree, tanks in real life can reach 60 mph,

 

 

 

It already goes faster then that in GTA O.

 

 

Erm, no. With a speedometer active, the top speed caps out at 39-45mph.

 

 

Drive next to it with a car, drive the car in 1st person to match and check the speed. I bet it goes faster :D

 

 

The in-game speedometers aren't accurate.

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Speed is perfectly fine. It's already ridiculous a Insurgent can withstand more than the tank AND it can chase you all over the place until you find a tight alley way.

 

The tank needs a armor buff. It's f*cking ridiculous how the cops can kill it just by suiciding into your ass.

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I think that tank's acceleration and speed should be really buffed,with all these homing launchers and aircraft shooting at you(especially now that they have lock on to ground vehicles)even when you are only having fun destroying police and minding your own bussiness.What do you all think about that?

It's fine the way it is. Always be aware of your surroundings. If you're minding your own business, you should be able to see threats coming from a mile away. Unless you're just full of sh*t, and would like prolonged tank life to kill a few more folks.

ProTip: Adapt to the environment, don't ask for a crutch.

Have u read? I proposed only to buff speed not armor.Yea armor must be buffed in SP and maybe in MP(i dont think its important tho)
Yeah. Why would you assume I'm talking about armor?

Keep your eye on your surroundings and know when it's time to either (1) move out, (2) get out of the tank, (3) go off radar, etc, etc, etc, etc. Welcome to freemode.

The tanks speed doesn't need to be "really buffed".

But, if you're going into a battle of dots and don't expect all dots to light you up with a homing launcher, rocket launcher, or Grenade launcher...that's on you.

Bottom line: I know it may sound harsh, but don't ask for a crutch for your shortcomings.

I only use tank to go on a police rampage or when i have a bounty. When i have a bounty yeah i go to Sandy shores airfield or los santos beach coz i know players will attak me and those places are big.But when i am going on a police rampage and it shoes tank icon i am an easy target to jets and due to jets (but also helis now due to lok on)being too fast i cant escape them for that i proposed to buff tanks speed so we can have a chance.Yeah, I gotcha. But you really don't need speed to avoid them. You could easily jump out of the tank and that disables the jets/'copters rockets from locking on to you.

 

You could go off radar once you see them coming towards you. And don't be afraid to use passive mode.

 

But you have to remember, when you're in Freemode...always check your "Expanded Map" every few seconds and keep tabs on all dots and how close they are to you. (FYI, in case you don't know, double tab Down on the D-Pad to expand the mini map; may have to tap it three times if you're in Current Gen with a lobby of 19 or more)

 

And if a jet is flying around in your proximity, stop your rampage and focus on what that jet is doing.

 

Yes true jet is one thing but homing launcher missiles another thing.A smart player who shoots at me with its rokets will have 70 % of chance to hit me even if im perfect at dodging them due to the tanks acceleration being too slow.A skillfull jet pilot will dodge the rockets 100% of the time if he has skill. Why dont reward the tank player if he has skill of dodging them by buffing the speed.

Buff the speed up on anything and skill wouldn't be needed to dodge anything.

 

If you're staying in your tank when you have a dot around or when a jet is coming, there's your problem.

 

Your skill to survive in Freemode is lacking. Nope, no speed buffing for you.

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Speed is okay,resistance is futile and that motherf*cking turret should be usable by an second player

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No. Folks prefer a paper mache Tank over an actual Tank armor.

 

 

Reality says a real tank in real life can barely take one-two RPGs. So maybe players don't want to deal with 6 year olds in tanks that take 6 rpgs to blow up, just so they can go passive and run to a new one.

 

That is the reality of what a tank BUFF does. Weaker and cowardly player will simply all use it all the time, just like back in the day.

 

 

 

I mean, did anyone actually like dealing with squeakers in tanks 24/7? Or where most of you not around back then?

 

 

HAHAHAHAAHAHAA

 

PFFFTT f*ckING LMFAO. Dude, I can say with most guaranteed that you have no idea what the f*ck you are talking about. Period, don't make a fool of yourself and speak out of your ass

 

 

ya.. maybe the guys in these tanks didn't get the memo..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pwmdAjePLY

 

 

Rofl, You're talking about a tank that is 44 year old. The tank we have in the game is based on the leopard 2. Also the rocket launcher you showed in that video is a RPG-29 one of the only RPG that can penetrate a MBT armor. You need to be specific when you say RPG, there are a lot of RPG's. And the one we have in the game is a 7 model. not the 29. So if we're going to be technical like you were trying to be. Let's get all of our facts straight.

 

Agree.The RPG that we have now is the rpg-7 which can do little to nothing on a modern tank armor.A challenger 2 survivied 70 rockets.70 fu*kin rokets.

 

 

 

...First off the tank in GTA is called a Rhino and it has unlimited magical ammo supply and can be spawned out of thin air for pocket change. Wether its based of this or that... it doesn't matter. The RPG is just called an RPG, not sure how adding a 7 to the end changes anything.

 

I think you guys seem to forget that this is GTA, not some realistic war simulator. No one gives a sh*t about tanks except war nerds, COD/BF kiddies and free roam chicken sh*ts.

 

The fact is any BUFF to the tanks armor would simply make it used more often for the most basic sh*t. Squeaky little kids, K/D freaks and cowards would all roll in them all day long. And most people who play GTA don't care for fighting tanks all day. Its bad enough with average players in Hyrdas running wild in free roam. Tanks would simply ruin it even more, like it already did back when it was OP.

 

Now, if you liked that sh*t when it was op. Thats your choice. But i don't play online to deal with twankers all the time and most people don't

 

As far as speed goes, the actual point of this topic. Well, if you wanna go faster, stop using a tank. Simple as that.

 

You can't give a real life example of an RPG destroying a tank, and then back up saying that "GTA is a fake game" "Why are you comparing it to real life?!"

 

WTF? You just gave a real life example and now you are back-tracking.

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DevilDaRebel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No. Folks prefer a paper mache Tank over an actual Tank armor.

 

 

Reality says a real tank in real life can barely take one-two RPGs. So maybe players don't want to deal with 6 year olds in tanks that take 6 rpgs to blow up, just so they can go passive and run to a new one.

 

That is the reality of what a tank BUFF does. Weaker and cowardly player will simply all use it all the time, just like back in the day.

 

 

 

I mean, did anyone actually like dealing with squeakers in tanks 24/7? Or where most of you not around back then?

 

 

HAHAHAHAAHAHAA

 

PFFFTT f*ckING LMFAO. Dude, I can say with most guaranteed that you have no idea what the f*ck you are talking about. Period, don't make a fool of yourself and speak out of your ass

 

 

ya.. maybe the guys in these tanks didn't get the memo..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pwmdAjePLY

 

 

Rofl, You're talking about a tank that is 44 year old. The tank we have in the game is based on the leopard 2. Also the rocket launcher you showed in that video is a RPG-29 one of the only RPG that can penetrate a MBT armor. You need to be specific when you say RPG, there are a lot of RPG's. And the one we have in the game is a 7 model. not the 29. So if we're going to be technical like you were trying to be. Let's get all of our facts straight.

 

Agree.The RPG that we have now is the rpg-7 which can do little to nothing on a modern tank armor.A challenger 2 survivied 70 rockets.70 fu*kin rokets.

 

 

 

...First off the tank in GTA is called a Rhino and it has unlimited magical ammo supply and can be spawned out of thin air for pocket change. Wether its based of this or that... it doesn't matter. The RPG is just called an RPG, not sure how adding a 7 to the end changes anything.

 

I think you guys seem to forget that this is GTA, not some realistic war simulator. No one gives a sh*t about tanks except war nerds, COD/BF kiddies and free roam chicken sh*ts.

 

The fact is any BUFF to the tanks armor would simply make it used more often for the most basic sh*t. Squeaky little kids, K/D freaks and cowards would all roll in them all day long. And most people who play GTA don't care for fighting tanks all day. Its bad enough with average players in Hyrdas running wild in free roam. Tanks would simply ruin it even more, like it already did back when it was OP.

 

Now, if you liked that sh*t when it was op. Thats your choice. But i don't play online to deal with twankers all the time and most people don't

 

As far as speed goes, the actual point of this topic. Well, if you wanna go faster, stop using a tank. Simple as that.

 

You can't give a real life example of an RPG destroying a tank, and then back up saying that "GTA is a fake game" "Why are you comparing it to real life?!"

 

WTF? You just gave a real life example and now you are back-tracking.

 

 

That's what literally caused me to post my last post. so much +11111

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I hate tanks but I would be for bringing them back to their original state. We have more ways to bring them down now.

 

I used to enjoy the thrill of evading a tank.

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I hate tanks but I would be for bringing them back to their original state. We have more ways to bring them down now.

 

I used to enjoy the thrill of evading a tank.

Agreed. I hated invincible tanks back in the day but it's amusing to destroy them even with more armor and watch kids cry lol

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The tank is not fine the way it is but I wouldn't make it faster, I would buff it's armor either back to or close to the way it originally was. You just don't see tanks as much anymore, they've been replaced with jet trolls who I think are much worse than tank trolls.

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The whole thing needs a buff, the freaking useless armour, the range and the speed.

 

If the tank recieves a buff, the heavy sniper should also buff back to ps3 pre-nerfed state where it can shoot through stuff and have a longer view range.

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Basically, I would like to see the tank generally buffed a bit, but made harder to use effectively so it is easy to take down idiots in tanks but harder to take down skilled players. Some thoughts to this end:

 

Leave the speed/acceleration as is

Increase the armor vs. small arms

Running over small vehicles should crush and destroy them, but not cause them to explode and damage the tank or attract police stars.

Running into larger vehicles should immediately destroy them, and cause some reduced damage to the tank.

Slightly increase the armor vs. explosives (maybe one more RPG to destroy)

Decrease the fire rate of the cannon, but slightly increase the range and damage

Reduce the turret turning speed slightly, but also slightly improve the turn speed of the actual tank

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