The chances of us ever getting online Casinos?

[prestonchan]

there are banner outside of the low end clothes shop said

"sale"

"everything must go"

but their price is just f*cking same as other

so the "opening soon" is just a f*cking mapping image happen to have " O-P-E-N-I-N-G S-O-O-N" on it

IT WON'T HAPPEN

[TCA]

Slim to none.

[Gordanovich]

I was out drinking with some of the Rockstar developers on Friday night, they told me that the casino is owned by the same people who own the Funland amusement park in Liberty City, and that both will be opened simultaneously.

 

True story.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

from"in 2 years" to "never"

its a stupid estimate but the point is there is nothing even remotely sugesting casino is anything more then cut content

[Pennyworth]

No no no no and no. If r* were to do that theyd get sued so fast. And laws are illegal for children to gamebel.

 

Inbe 4lock

[DedetOS1]

rockstar won't let you make your own money with poker because of that cash card thing

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

No no no no and no. If r* were to do that theyd get sued so fast. And laws are illegal for children to gamebel.

 

Inbe 4lock

not sure if not realy bright or trolling this forum.....

rockstar won't let you make your own money with poker because of that cash card thing

thats the only reason why they may implement a casino....but in the other way.

see in real life casino's only make huge profits and people playing there loses.

realy why the hell people are wishing for something that, when implemented woud be an even more huge money sink hole then freeroam is beyond me

[DeadMoonNight]

At this point I don't even care that much. Don't get me wrong, It'd be a blast but GTAO has pretty much run it's course for me. It's been a fun two years, and I'll keep playing here and there, but I'm mostly done with this game.

My real hope is that R* is hard at work on the next Red Dead. Then we'll get some f*cking gambling. I really hope they take all the lessons they should've been learning with the launch and implementation of GTAO to heart and really show us something with an expansive online mode for Red Dead. Should have poker and blackjack and all that sh*t again. I hope they announce it soon.

[Cudwieser]

 

No no no no and no. If r* were to do that theyd get sued so fast. And laws are illegal for children to gamebel.

 

Inbe 4lock

not sure if not realy bright or trolling this forum.....

rockstar won't let you make your own money with poker because of that cash card thing

thats the only reason why they may implement a casino....but in the other way.

see in real life casino's only make huge profits and people playing there loses.

realy why the hell people are wishing for something that, when implemented woud be an even more huge money sink hole then freeroam is beyond me

 

It's called chance. Much like the will they, won't they arguments such as the OP there is always a chance (even when the answer is no). Every one loves to take a chance, especially in the vein glory of that one moment of instant gratification. It is this vanity that casino prey on. As long as one person wins, everyone will try to follow. While the illusion and reward of skill is present against the back drop of luck and fate, many will flock to the citidel of torment and poverty. Those who know will either stay away or play within bounds, but the lost and fickle many will forever push that boulder up the mountain to see it fall at the last.

 

P.s I'm all for the casino. Just not putting my money on it.

 

Odd's 50/1

Edited August 30, 2015 by Cudwieser

[bad_news_21]

I'd say 20% chance it comes. I actually see nightclubs coming before that. Even mansions have a higher chance.

[TheDramaLama]

I'd say 20% chance it comes. I actually see nightclubs coming before that. Even mansions have a higher chance.

If they open up the clubs people will go in once or twice and get bored of it and go back to killing other players. Simple as that, it doesn't matter if they include activities in the clubs because it won't be exciting enough for the small children this game is riddled with.

[infidel74]

Not likely to happen, ever..

I think there would be an issue with the fact young people play this game and that cash cards can be bought by said young people, there would be a legality issue with underage gambling and even gambling in countries where it is completely outlawed.

 

I don't know for sure but that's just what I think.

 

 

Test Drive Unlimited 2 was online and had a full casino with all the types of gambling you would expect. That game was rated for 13+. You didn't get to kill anyone, there were no hookers, and you certainly couldn't purchase a hooker AND kill her like in GTA.

Edited August 30, 2015 by infidel74

[Fozzie]

Any game in which I can't kill a hooker isn't worth my time.

Your argument is invalid.

[MrMadMike]

Would love to see it

Maybe next game

[Niko the awesome]

There is 0 chance of online getting a casino. Rockstar never mentioned anything about a casino, this is pure speculation from the community.

[A Paradox from 94]

It is just a matter of time, it might not be in the mainline GTA 5 game. It might be introduced in an expansion, only thing you have to do is wait.

 

I cant wait to be sitting there at the poker table robbing kids for cash.

Edited August 30, 2015 by A Paradox from 94

[ghostrider135]

All this talk of it wont happen because its considered gambling is a load of bollocks, There is already gambling in the game have you never placed a bet on yourselves to win a race or deathmatch ? So the whole its not allowed point is moot, It simply wont happen because cashcards.

[A Paradox from 94]

 

The Department of Justices New Interpretation of the Wire Act: A Green Light for Video Game Betting?

Posted on February 14, 2012 by Zack Bastian

Last year was tough for online poker. A lot of people were swept away in pokers surge in popularity in the early 2000s. A big part of the spike in was a new generation of players who cut their teeth playing online. You might remember Chris Moneymaker, the first World Series of Poker Champion to qualify from online tournaments. Some used the skills they picked up on the web to transition to the tables of Atlantic City, Vegas, and Reno. Others chose to focus on online play and made a healthy income doing so. The New York Times Magazine profiled one such prodigy, Daniel Cates in late March of last year. But the legality of online poker was suspect since the passage of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA) in 2006.

 

The Department of Justice put a stop to the boom when shut down the biggest and most lucrative poker sites just weeks after the article on Cates was released, including the UIGEA in the indictment. Full Tilt Poker, Poker Stars, and Absolute Poker, played a game of cat and mouse with the US Government, and did business here while operating offshore. They argued online poker was not gambling, but a game of skill. The Department of Justice was not persuaded: they quickly shut down domains, filed a civil lawsuit for money laundering, and froze company assets. With such a dramatic blow to the biggest outlets in the market, it was easy to assume online poker in the United States might not recover at all.

 

Maybe not. In a decision reached in September but made public in late December, the Department of Justice has made a dramatic reinterpretation of the Wire Act. According to the ruling, the laws ban on betting crossing state or international borders now only applies to a sporting event or contest, not to online lottery tickets. Professor I. Nelson Rose made a great post summarizing why this matters for online poker. The Wire Act can be used against people who attempt to make cross-border bets on events. But a lottery is not a bet on a separate event: when you buy a ticket, you are wagering whatever you pay on winning the pot based on the numbers drawn, not something external. Instead, its a bet in the event. As Professor Rose points out, a bet placed during a poker game follows the same logic. When you wager money on your hand, youre not betting on anything other than that round itself.

 

This likely will not mean that the lawsuit against the big poker sites is over with. The Federal Government has made clear they are concerned about technology facilitating illegality, like money laundering. It would be hard to believe that the Department of Justice would make such a sweeping show of force against those poker sites, then abandon the effort. It could mean that online poker could see a rebirth, provided players are in states where that sort of gaming is legal. Due to its checkered past, anybody considering getting into the business would wait and see, making sure they are on solid legal footing before putting down any serious investment.

 

What is particularly interesting to us at Law of the Game is that this could open the door for gamers to make legal bets on their own performance in online gaming tournaments. Players of games like Call of Duty: Black Ops can already wager points used to purchase new items and skills based on their performance in a given round. If it is legal, a player could place cash bets on how they might perform on a given round, or the entire tournament. Remember, it would be a bet in the event, not on. There are some important caveats to consider. It will be up to game companies whether or not this kind of infrastructure is set up. Some might not find it appropriate for a title, either because of the intended audience or the mechanics of the game. Companies would also need to consider whether they want to assume the burden of regulating betting on their game. The Department of Justice would want to make sure that online games were not being used to launder money, so they would expect gaming companies to take appropriate precautions: tracking bettors, making sure games are not fixed, and so on. Game companies have a vested interest in making sure that their product promotes fair competition, and no one wants to get caught up in illegality. That regulatory burden could provide a benefit.

 

Game companies would want a fee for their troubles. It could take the form of a temporally charged amount above and beyond the amount it costs for a subscription service like Xbox Live, or a per-bet percentage on every wager, win or lose. If the gambling systems on games became popular, this income stream could convince a company wary to dive in the market. A wagering system could extend the shelf-life of a game for quite some time. World of Warcraft just turned seven years old, but it is still generating income for Blizzard today. This is due in no small part to the subscriptions every player must buy. Subscription or transactional fees could be a powerful enticement to bring companies into the business.

 

This could also signal the return of integrated gambling models like we saw with Kwari, and an increase in 3rd party tournament sites, as we have previously discussed. It will be interesting to see if a proliferation of tournament sites puts their operators in conflict with the game developers/publishers, and what creative lawsuits may result. Online pokers future is still an open question, and any type of betting on video games would probably be preceded by a more concrete development clarifying pokers legality. But, as Professor Rose points out, there are not many federal regulations left prohibiting the interstate transactions involved in gambling. In fact, there have already been proposals, including one from Representative Barney Frank, to overturn the UIGEA, and move the industry to regulation and taxation on a nationwide level.

 

As budgets get tighter, there is always the lingering question of whether the previous moral objections to online gambling might give way to the very present opportunity to increase government revenue and create jobs. If companies can put in the time and effort to keep the competition fair and above board, we might be able to put cash down on our performance on Mario Kart. Which, reminds me: do not bet on a game of Mario Kart with Mark, it is a bad idea

 

[Stephen]

Casino in online ? Lol, you'll have a better shot at seeing an outdoor ice skating rink in the middle of the Sahara Desert. Single Player might be a different story, welcome to the forums OP, and the casino topic horse has been beaten to death over a dozen times on here. Lets say by the grace of Jehovah it came online. Do you think Rockstar would have it setup that people would be winning 10 mill playing roulette ? You would see a mass influx of crybaby threads on the R* support forum and here, about how the casino is milking them dry. Too many bad things can happen with casinos in the fictional and non fictional sense.

Edited August 30, 2015 by SteveNYC

[SingingTrout85]

I just want'em, so I can rob'em. The solo mans Heist! = )

[Dirty Burger]

Casino in online ? Lol, you'll have a better shot at seeing an outdoor ice skating rink in the middle of the Sahara Desert. Single Player might be a different story, welcome to the forums OP, and the casino topic horse has been beaten to death over a dozen times on here. Lets say by the grace of Jehovah it came online. Do you think Rockstar would have it setup that people would be winning 10 mill playing roulette ? You would see a mass influx of crybaby threads on the R* support forum and here, about how the casino is milking them dry. Too many bad things can happen with casinos in the fictional and non fictional sense.

 

I would fully expect the odds to be in favor of the Casino much more than a player. It's called 'tough luck' and many, many, MANY casino goers in real life face this same consequence. I see a lot of people saying that due to shark cards there would be no Casino when it seems like the opposite would be more correct.

 

lets just say 10 people go to the 'rockstar casino' if and somehow it was ever released.

 

the odds are:

 

1 person is going to strike it rich and make a huge chunk of change

the other 9 people are going to lose a lot of money playing

 

That would mean the odds of one of those players buying a shark card to make up for their losses would be dramatically increased.

[Fennimoe]

Not likely to happen, ever..

I think there would be an issue with the fact young people play this game and that cash cards can be bought by said young people, there would be a legality issue with underage gambling and even gambling in countries where it is completely outlawed.

 

I don't know for sure but that's just what I think.

If you cannot cash out for real money, then it's not considered real gambling and nothing bad could happen.

[Guest]

Time to get the tin foil hat out again... More cash card conspiracies. *Yawn*.

[Cubanoking99]

I doubt we'll get is for the same reason we don't have stocks online, they would be maliciously exploited again breaking the gta "economy".

[MatthewH]

I doubt we'll get is for the same reason we don't have stocks online, they would be maliciously exploited again breaking the gta "economy".

The only gta economy that exists is inside R*'s deluded mind.

[Cudwieser]

Economy involves the flow of wealth, not the accumulation of it. In saying that money must be amassed before it can be spent. As long as there are means to make money and a prerequisite to spend it then the amount of money you make is irrelevant as long as it is continually spent. If R* want an economy they need to up the rent, apply penalties and justify the cost of living by allowing us to make more money to spend. Maybe if the wages of war were more apparent such as having to fix your vehicles before you store them (or while you store them). This way an economy may happen.

[SuperSpartan747]

 

Not likely to happen, ever..

I think there would be an issue with the fact young people play this game and that cash cards can be bought by said young people, there would be a legality issue with underage gambling and even gambling in countries where it is completely outlawed.

 

I don't know for sure but that's just what I think.

If you cannot cash out for real money, then it's not considered real gambling and nothing bad could happen.

 

In addition to this, can't you already place bets on who's gonna win during car races? Is that not a form of gambling? If there is no issue there and Rockstar is still selling shark cards, then it makes no sense for them to hold back from opening the casino due to shark cards. If they never open the casino, it's for an entirely different reason.

[Flachbau]

I personally doubt this is ever coming, ever.

 

Agree with you on this. They are more focused on giving us free DLC cars that look like they came from Saints Row. The majority of them are hideous, imo.

[truebornjester]

Was just about to comment the same.

 

 

Not likely to happen, ever..

I think there would be an issue with the fact young people play this game and that cash cards can be bought by said young people, there would be a legality issue with underage gambling and even gambling in countries where it is completely outlawed.

I don't know for sure but that's just what I think.

[Miscer]

I would play so much poker... would easily win against all the squeakers that don't know how to play.