Why are bad sport lobbies necessary in game like GTA?

[Assasin_Zack]

 

 

 

Or get a new gen console/gaming pc

Why should I buy a new console when my PS3 is still brand new and is working perfectly?

And I won't buy a whole f*cking console for one stupid game. And even if I did, I can't play Online. Problem unsolved.

Pc does not require xbox live gold/ps plus = problem solved

My PC can't run the game and I'm not into Sandbox gaming on PC nor am I going to waste cash on a gaming PC. Problem UNsolved, again.

 

Your signature is quite ironic then if you don't have a PS4/Xbox One nor are you willing to put down money to get a decent PC. And soon there wont be any new games released for the PS3. All you're doing is making it hard for yourself

Edited August 21, 2015 by Assasin_Zack

[.Vooodu.]

 

^^

This. Well stated. The real life "logic" of players like HulioG never cease to amaze and baffle me. HulioG's line of reasoning is exactly the type which a lot of #yoloswag [email protected] @$$hats were using back in the multi billionare days---before R* swept the money glitches on the servers last Christmas.

 

 

 

 

 

I don`t even attack friendly players AND.. i never even owned an Adder, let alone chrome.

 

[PkUnzipper]

 

So you're saying... That R* themselves wants to us be friendly and they do nothing to provoke us to fight each other? And things like bountys, muggers and unlocks for killing players are just for show.

 

You can say what you said till your face turns blue.. Guess what? You don't get punished for killing players.

 

 

Is there a reason why players like you can't use the DM, LTS, Capture, and dozens of other PvP & K/D designed mission markers that litter the map? I can understand why you would rather not limit your CoD/SR4 styled activities to a specific area on the map. But if you want to specialize in that kind of chaos, then that's what Invite Only sessions are for. Why the hell can't you go into an invite only session, have your friends/crew join you and then wreck as much chaos and mayhem as you want? Why do you have to ruin the game for other ppl who don't care to play the way you do?

 

Once again R* needs to give us two servers. Or fix the completely f*cking broke Invite Only sessions so that players who join those get returned to that session instead of the regular public ones.

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

So you're saying... That R* themselves wants to us be friendly and they do nothing to provoke us to fight each other? And things like bountys, muggers and unlocks for killing players are just for show.

 

You can say what you said till your face turns blue.. Guess what? You don't get punished for killing players.

 

 

Is there a reason why players like you can't use the DM, LTS, Capture, and dozens of other PvP & K/D designed mission markers that litter the map? I can understand why you would rather not limit your CoD/

 

 

 

 

Dude..

 

I DON`T ATTACK FRIENDLY PLAYERS.

 

 

And i played COD once for 20 minutes 5 years ago.

 

 

Look man, if you want a proper right up on me il send you one.. Stop guessing, you`re waaaay offf.

Edited August 21, 2015 by HulioG

[Quinn_flower]

I'm sorry remove passive mode no thanks. I would like to play with others with out a asshole being a dick to me.

[NBAKingzFan10]

 

 

 

 

Or get a new gen console/gaming pc

Why should I buy a new console when my PS3 is still brand new and is working perfectly?

And I won't buy a whole f*cking console for one stupid game. And even if I did, I can't play Online. Problem unsolved.

Pc does not require xbox live gold/ps plus = problem solved

My PC can't run the game and I'm not into Sandbox gaming on PC nor am I going to waste cash on a gaming PC. Problem UNsolved, again.

 

Your signature is quite ironic then if you don't have a PS4/Xbox One nor are you willing to put down money to get a decent PC. And soon there wont be any new games released for the PS3. All you're doing is making it hard for yourselfThe PS2's last game was in 2014, 13 years after the PS2's release and 7 years after the PS3 was released. If that's any indication, he's got a loooong way until he's "making it hard for" himself.

 

In any event, his ability/inability to upgrade to NG is irrelevant here, and shouldn't be seen as a practical solution. That's as much a solution as "play the sims", which is disingenuous as it assumes that harassing other players is part of the game and unavoidable. If that were true, BS wouldn't exist and R* wouldn't have a code of conduct or EULA specifying as such.

[Assasin_Zack]

 

 

 

 

 

Or get a new gen console/gaming pc

Why should I buy a new console when my PS3 is still brand new and is working perfectly?

And I won't buy a whole f*cking console for one stupid game. And even if I did, I can't play Online. Problem unsolved.

Pc does not require xbox live gold/ps plus = problem solved

My PC can't run the game and I'm not into Sandbox gaming on PC nor am I going to waste cash on a gaming PC. Problem UNsolved, again.

 

Your signature is quite ironic then if you don't have a PS4/Xbox One nor are you willing to put down money to get a decent PC. And soon there wont be any new games released for the PS3. All you're doing is making it hard for yourselfThe PS2's last game was in 2014, 13 years after the PS2's release and 7 years after the PS3 was released. If that's any indication, he's got a loooong way until he's "making it hard for" himself.

 

In any event, his ability/inability to upgrade to NG is irrelevant here, and shouldn't be seen as a practical solution. That's as much a solution as "play the sims", which is disingenuous as it assumes that harassing other players is part of the game and unavoidable. If that were true, BS wouldn't exist and R* wouldn't have a code of conduct or EULA specifying as such.

 

It may be irrelevant to the overal discussion but, have you seen his signature? And the last PS2 game was FIFA 14, not really a worthwhile game.

 

And I never said harassing others is part of the game.

"Because GTA isn't just about causing havoc and chaos. This is just something people do and think it's part of the game. Some players just want do drive around and customise their cars and make some money. The game wouldn't be a whole lot of fun if dicks could show up with a tank and destroy everyone with zero consequences. "or play World of Warcraft" What the f*ck was that for?"

 

My exact comment on the first page.

[ten-a-penny]

Then deal with the problems

Pathetic response is pathetic.

 

Your signature is quite ironic then if you don't have a PS4/Xbox One nor are you willing to put down money to get a decent PC. And soon there wont be any new games released for the PS3. All you're doing is making it hard for yourself

Please tell me that you're not serious. Please.

I said I play on multiple platforms, not "I'll get every possible gaming platform out there!". And I don't care if people even forgot what a PS3 is, if my favorite game of all time is over 21 years old.

[J Cobra]

 

@Ten-a-penny You're full of sh*t.

Says the idiot who treats this game like CoD. Great... Another guy who thinks he's the next mature dude,because he has morals in a video games, and doesn't play COD. Grow up.

[J Cobra]

^ Sshh. Don't tell him how to play the game! People like him are waay to sensitive. They have all the rights to command us and telling us how to play but we have no rights to do the same.

For the last f*cking time,I'm not forcing anyone to do anything! Now shut the hell up. Edited August 21, 2015 by J Cobra

[§†range]

Isn't this game about crime, and chaos? Why should we care if a bunch sensitive cry babies, or children can't take getting killed, or getting their crap blown up in a video game. It's not like we're cheating. We're doing what you're suppose to do in a game like this. Why the hell is Rockstar, encouraging us not to cause mayhem when they give us so much weapons and arsenal that kills? So we can show the weapon's colors off? What they need to do is take off passive mode, and get rid of the bad sports lobbies. If the whiners don't like it, go into an invite only session or play World of Warcraft .

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[iBUCKEYE]

 

^ Sshh. Don't tell him how to play the game! People like him are waay to sensitive. They have all the rights to command us and telling us how to play but we have no rights to do the same.

For the last f*cking time,I'm not forcing anyone to do anything! Now shut the hell up.

But....you did.

[J Cobra]

 

 

 

Isn't this game about crime, and chaos? Why should we care if a bunch sensitive cry babies, or children can't take getting killed, or getting their crap blown up in a video game. It's not like we're cheating. We're doing what you're suppose to do in a game like this. Why the hell is Rockstar, encouraging us not to cause mayhem when they give us so much weapons and arsenal that kills? So we can show the weapon's colors off? What they need to do is take off passive mode, and get rid of the bad sports lobbies. If the whiners don't like it, go into an invite only session or play World of Warcraft .

I don't wanna be rude... but you're not that bright are you? It's not a game about crime and chaos, it's a game about whatever the f*ck you want it to be. And believe it or not, not everyone thinks the same way you do. If that's all your GTA has boiled down to then you're not doing the game justice.

If I wanna take a break from killing and blowing sh*t up I'm gonna put passive mode on and relax without some jacked up kid like you, trying to prove to everyone what a badass he is, ruining my fun.

Thankfully, Rockstar doesn't listen to dumb suggestions like this one.

 

I don't wanna be rude... No I really do, because I'm not full of it like you. You're really stupid. Is this your first time playing GTA or something? In every game in the series you must do crimes to get to the top. What makes you think I'm forcing my opinion on everyone? Just because I created thread about mine? If you disagree, that's you. So can it, with all that. What are you some over-protective mom? Who the f*ck cares if I'm being an injustice? It's a video game where you're suppose to be crazy and where you don't have to be polite. There are no morals. Get over it if you're constantly killed. Yeah "jacked up kid". That's cute. Anyway, I do it because I think it's fun and for the LOLs. Rockstar should recommand this because they look like hypocrites. They promise you, you're free to do whatever. But put restrictions and phony rules on things.

 

Hahaha, yeah.... you ARE just a kid. And admit it, you didn't even read my entire post, did you?

I don't even know where to start. You say you're not forcing your opinion, and yet when I tell you it's a game where you can do anything you want, not just go arround killing people, you remain adamant about your very restricted one way of thinking. You out right say it's a game where you're SUPPOSED to be crazy.

Overprotective mom? Because, unlike you I can think of more than one way to enjoy this game? AAHAHAHAHA

You sir are a moron.

Are you actually trying to deny, that I read what you said, so you'd look smart? That's pretty sad bro. Edited August 21, 2015 by J Cobra

[NBAKingzFan10]

 

^ Sshh. Don't tell him how to play the game! People like him are waay to sensitive. They have all the rights to command us and telling us how to play but we have no rights to do the same.

For the last f*cking time,I'm not forcing anyone to do anything! Now shut the hell up.

How timely of you to respond a whole day and a half after he posted that, and with a double-post no less (maybe next time edit your original post and add onto it instead of posting two distinct replies simultaneously, champ).

 

Anyways, you aren't forcing anyone to do anything, but you're heavily suggesting that they do. Whether it be "suck it up" or "play WoW instead", you're acting as if your fantastical suggestions were actually reality. Sure, it might be fun to wonder "what if there were no passive mode or Bad Sport", but until that happens you really have no reason to try and act like it already has (and treating people as such).

 

You call everyone who doesn't agree with you "idiots" and "whiners", but it's really you who are whining and you're certainly an idiot if you think we should play another game because of something that hasn't happened yet.

[J Cobra]

 

 

^ Sshh. Don't tell him how to play the game! People like him are waay to sensitive. They have all the rights to command us and telling us how to play but we have no rights to do the same.

For the last f*cking time,I'm not forcing anyone to do anything! Now shut the hell up.

But....you did. I didn't.

[J Cobra]

 

 

^ Sshh. Don't tell him how to play the game! People like him are waay to sensitive. They have all the rights to command us and telling us how to play but we have no rights to do the same.

For the last f*cking time,I'm not forcing anyone to do anything! Now shut the hell up.

How timely of you to respond a whole day and a half after he posted that, and with a double-post no less (maybe next time edit your original post and add onto it instead of posting two distinct replies simultaneously, champ).

 

Anyways, you aren't forcing anyone to do anything, but you're heavily suggesting that they do. Whether it be "suck it up" or "play WoW instead", you're acting as if your fantastical suggestions were actually reality. Sure, it might be fun to wonder "what if there were no passive mode or Bad Sport", but until that happens you really have no reason to try and act like it already has (and treating people as such).

 

You call everyone who doesn't agree with you "idiots" and "whiners", but it's really you who are whining and you're certainly an idiot if you think we should play another game because of something that hasn't happened yet.

Like any of the trash you said in the 1st paragraph matters. I had my car blown up a lot of times and killed a lot of times by trolls. I've been on GTAO since it started. I believe people should suck it up and realize this is a game about crime and being insane. And Rockstar should stop being hypocrites.

[Phyxsius-]

Like any of the trash you said in the 1st paragraph matters. I had my car blown up a lot of times and killed a lot of times by trolls. I've been on GTAO since it started. I believe people should suck it up and realize this is a game about crime and being insane. And Rockstar should stop being hypocrites.

So now you know better than Rockstar how their game should be, eh?

 

As for the orange text: that is your personal opinion, which is nothing more than a personal opinion.

Edited August 22, 2015 by Phyxsius-

[Flachbau]

There's no specific set of rules for the game.. it kinda just came to be that people behave like idiots. Bad sport lobbies are only for the continuous griefers that ruin the fun for absolutely everybody involved. It's not cool. I'm talking about having your car blown up over five times for no reason.. what's the explanation for that? Do you like spending $29k each time you destroy my T20? Think about your actions before you do anything else.

[J Cobra]

 

Like any of the trash you said in the 1st paragraph matters. I had my car blown up a lot of times and killed a lot of times by trolls. I've been on GTAO since it started. I believe people should suck it up and realize this is a game about crime and being insane. And Rockstar should stop being hypocrites.

 

So now you know better than Rockstar how their game should be, eh?

 

As for the orange text: that is your personal opinion, which is nothing more than a personal opinion.

If Rockstar doesn't know that, they're retarded. Edited August 22, 2015 by J Cobra

[Phyxsius-]

 

 

Like any of the trash you said in the 1st paragraph matters. I had my car blown up a lot of times and killed a lot of times by trolls. I've been on GTAO since it started. I believe people should suck it up and realize this is a game about crime and being insane. And Rockstar should stop being hypocrites.

So now you know better than Rockstar how their game should be, eh?

 

As for the orange text: that is your personal opinion, which is nothing more than a personal opinion.

If Rockstar doesn't know that, they're retarded.

 

It seems you are mistaken, as Rockstar DOES know what it wants, but you wouldn`t like it: they don`t like assholes and trolls around, that`s why they implemented BS Lobbies. You might not like what Rockstar`s resolve is / was, but that doesn`t change anything.

 

Stomping your lil` feet won`t make it any less true, I`m afraid.

 

Got a question for you, though: Do you like playing with like minded players?

Edited August 22, 2015 by Phyxsius-

[Smooth Longsack]

^^^ there are no players in BS lobbies. It's a ghost town and it shouldn't be.

[ciel]

Wow this thread went down South.

Edited August 22, 2015 by missanthropy

[ClareXoBearrx3R9]

 

 

 

 

 

Seriously. Couldn't they just made it so that the Mental system only increases when you kill REAL players, and once it reaches Pure Red, you're thrown into BS instead of this nonsense?

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

 

Returned to senseless assumptions again huh?

Of course not. They can simply imply a code or something similar that can prevent players defending themselves from turning Red. Duh.

 

I didn't assume anything, i replied to exactly what you posted... Seriously.. look at the quote.

 

Either way, what you posted make no sense. Go passive or leave if you can't stand the heat.

 

This bullsh*t of punishing players via some sort of in game bad sports systems is simply bullsh*t. We have weapons, explosives, vehicles, passive and the ability to find a new lobbies or play in invite only. Killing players is not the problem, blowing up their pvp is not the problem. Its the whiners that are the actual problem.

 

If getting killed gets someone angry.. and they feel the need to see said player locked into a BAD SPORT lobby. Then maybe, public sessions are not the place for that player. Because they can't handle the heat and really, they are bad sports for complaining.

 

So maybe BAD SPORT should be for people who can't handle playing GTA.

 

Either way.. maybe R* should do some reading. Cali law says..

 

http://esfandilawfirm.com/crimes/ca-penal-code-245-assault-with-a-deadly-weapon/

 

 

And it states

 

Deadly weapons are traditionally viewed to be guns and knives, but you can be convicted of CA Penal Code 245 for using something like a beer bottle, a rock, car, pen, really anything that can be used to inflict great bodily injury onto another person.[/size]

 

 

 

And it also states

 

California protects its citizens from being punished while acting in self defense if: you reasonably believed that great bodily injury will be inflicted upon you, and you only use as much force as necessary to ward off injury.[/size]

 

Again,

 

Grand Theft Auto = vehicle theft, crimes, possibly killing people who get in your way like police, and maybe killing someone if you want to steal their vehicle.

 

Battlefield = killing and fighting players.

 

I'm not sure why this concept is so difficult for many people to understand.

 

 

 

 

So you're saying... That R* themselves wants to us be friendly and they do nothing to provoke us to fight each other? And things like bountys, muggers and unlocks for killing players are just for show.

 

You can say what you said till your face turns blue.. Guess what? You don't get punished for killing players.

 

 

• I think it's best we leave each other's faces out of this. I simply stated a point - people say "killing is the purpose of the game" yet I have not seen any evidence of this from the name of the game itself. If it were Battlefield or Call of Duty (I don't play this but just for the sake of example), then it's pretty obvious. But GTA? Come on. Not saying you can't kill people, but just because one can do something doesn't justify it to be the sole purpose of the game. That's like saying "because it's relatively simple for people to hack and cheat in GTA Online, then the sole purpose of GTA Online is to hack and cheat." Simply put, it's broken logic. Same thing with the dick example I mentioned before. A man can have a dick but is it wise to f*ck everything that moves? Wise people would suggest: probably not.
• Bountys and muggers all have a purpose to kill a player so there's no issue or argument with that. What I'm saying is, if there's a purpose in the game itself -- and thus a goal -- then sure, kill away. Things like bounties, muggers, vehicle theft, deathmatches, etc. thus all fall under such a category.
• Unlocks for killing players -> pretty sure that applies to deathmatches only. Though I could be wrong about that.
• You may not be punished for killing players (perhaps I should have clarified more) but obviously for destroying personal vehicles, you are.

 

Though again, if people generally prefer to be calm and cruise around in free mode and you wish to cause havoc and go PvP while they don't, why not spend your time in a deathmatch? Makes everyone happy and to top it off with a cherry, you get RP, money, various awards, and don't get bad sport points for doing precisely what you love and enjoy.

[PkUnzipper]

 

 

@Ten-a-penny You're full of sh*t.

Says the idiot who treats this game like CoD.

Great... Another guy who thinks he's the next mature dude,because he has morals in a video games, and doesn't play COD. Grow up.

 

 

What?

[PkUnzipper]

 

 

 

So you're saying... That R* themselves wants to us be friendly and they do nothing to provoke us to fight each other? And things like bountys, muggers and unlocks for killing players are just for show.

 

You can say what you said till your face turns blue.. Guess what? You don't get punished for killing players.

 

 

Is there a reason why players like you can't use the DM, LTS, Capture, and dozens of other PvP & K/D designed mission markers that litter the map? I can understand why you would rather not limit your CoD/

 

 

 

 

Dude..

 

I DON`T ATTACK FRIENDLY PLAYERS.

 

 

And i played COD once for 20 minutes 5 years ago.

 

 

Look man, if you want a proper right up on me il send you one.. Stop guessing, you`re waaaay offf.

 

 

Okies. I'm sorry I struck a nerve and hurt your feelings.

 

You win.

 

*huggles*

[.Vooodu.]

 

• I think it's best we leave each other's faces out of this. I simply stated a point - people say "killing is the purpose of the game" yet I have not seen any evidence of this from the name of the game itself. If it were Battlefield or Call of Duty (I don't play this but just for the sake of example), then it's pretty obvious. But GTA? Come on. Not saying you can't kill people, but just because one can do something doesn't justify it to be the sole purpose of the game. That's like saying "because it's relatively simple for people to hack and cheat in GTA Online, then the sole purpose of GTA Online is to hack and cheat." Simply put, it's broken logic. Same thing with the dick example I mentioned before. A man can have a dick but is it wise to f*ck everything that moves? Wise people would suggest: probably not.
• Bountys and muggers all have a purpose to kill a player so there's no issue or argument with that. What I'm saying is, if there's a purpose in the game itself -- and thus a goal -- then sure, kill away. Things like bounties, muggers, vehicle theft, deathmatches, etc. thus all fall under such a category.
• Unlocks for killing players -> pretty sure that applies to deathmatches only. Though I could be wrong about that.
• You may not be punished for killing players (perhaps I should have clarified more) but obviously for destroying personal vehicles, you are.

 

Though again, if people generally prefer to be calm and cruise around in free mode and you wish to cause havoc and go PvP while they don't, why not spend your time in a deathmatch? Makes everyone happy and to top it off with a cherry, you get RP, money, various awards, and don't get bad sport points for doing precisely what you love and enjoy.

 

 

I've said this already.. but il say it again.

 

 

 

You don't get any bad sports points for killing people.

 

 

Nope.. in GTA a bad sport is only someone who blows up players personal vehicles ( only those which can be stored in garages) Regardless if said player is attacking from the vehicle or not.

 

So blowing up a person in their crop duster is GOOD SPORT!

 

Blowing up their boat as they cruise.. GOOD SPORT!

 

 

Kill a person a million times... is GOOD SPORT!

 

 

Just the personal stored vehicles are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy off limit. Why? Because... R* says so..lol

 

 

And guess what? Dicks, love to attack from vehicles, especially personal ones.. Dicks love their Kurumas, Insugrents, Zentornos... Theres people driving around with sticky bombs on their T20' shooting at people in hopes they shoot back and hit the sticky bombs, blow them up and pay insurance and a bad sport tick.

 

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The bottom line is, Bad Sports does not prevent players from being dicks. It just protects players PV. And dicks know this... and use it against players who simply defend themselves when they get attacked by dicks in personal vehicles. So in a game where nearly everyone is a dick, Bad Sports make no sense and only hinders self defense.

Edited August 22, 2015 by HulioG

[All Those Chickens]

WARNING, THE FOLLOWING POST IS AN OPINION

 

 

Bad sport lobbies should be removed.

 

Bad sport players should instead be instituted into Bolingbroke Penitentiary.

 

Bad sport prisoners should then have the opportunity to develop escape plans together.

 

Good sport players should be allowed to be prison guards if they wish to.

[CarimboHanky]

Dicks love their Kurumas, Insugrents, Zentornos... Theres people driving around with sticky bombs on their T20' shooting at people in hopes they shoot back and hit the sticky bombs, blow them up and pay insurance and a bad sport tick.

 

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The bottom line is, Bad Sports does not prevent players from being dicks. It just protects players PV. And dicks know this... and use it against players who simply defend themselves when they get attacked by dicks in personal vehicles. So in a game where nearly everyone is a dick, Bad Sports make no sense and only hinders self defense.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

I've said this already.. but il say it again.

 

 

 

You don't get any bad sports points for killing people.

 

 

Nope.. in GTA a bad sport is only someone who blows up players personal vehicles ( only those which can be stored in garages) Regardless if said player is attacking from the vehicle or not.

 

So blowing up a person in their crop duster is GOOD SPORT!

 

Blowing up their boat as they cruise.. GOOD SPORT!

 

 

Kill a person a million times... is GOOD SPORT!

 

 

Just the personal stored vehicles are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy off limit. Why? Because... R* says so..lol

 

 

And guess what? Dicks, love to attack from vehicles, especially personal ones.. Dicks love their Kurumas, Insugrents, Zentornos... Theres people driving around with sticky bombs on their T20' shooting at people in hopes they shoot back and hit the sticky bombs, blow them up and pay insurance and a bad sport tick.

 

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The bottom line is, Bad Sports does not prevent players from being dicks. It just protects players PV. And dicks know this... and use it against players who simply defend themselves when they get attacked by dicks in personal vehicles. So in a game where nearly everyone is a dick, Bad Sports make no sense and only hinders self defense.

That's blasphemy! If you don't agree with Bad Sport then you're a dickhead griefer yourself! Goodbye.

 

I kid but that's probably what some are thinking.

 

[MrMadMike]

I'm glad BS lobbies exist, so I can laugh at people crying about them