Why are bad sport lobbies necessary in game like GTA?

[Hunter]

@Icantthinkofonew:

enough with this spawnkilling idea. You have the option to go passive or leave at any moment. Anyone allowing this to happen, only has themselves to blame. The car's are insured, inanimate objects. They can't do anything without player control. It can't just stop itself from getting destroyed, so you get punished for screwing with it.

Completely irrelevant. Bad sport/insurance does not protect those who are being spawnkilled (i.e. the true, pure meaning of griefing). Getting blown up once or twice by a player you're fighting with is not griefing. Especially if you charge in with that car and try to use it as a shield. It's going boom whether I get punished for it or not.

Edited August 21, 2015 by Icantthinkofonew

[ten-a-penny]

 

 

 

 

There is obviously meant to be some amount of PvP fighting in gta though, and I mean in free mode, not just deathmatches and captures. The way the game counts everyone's kills, or the way we can send muggers and mercenaries after people. Or go off radar. Or if your mental state rises, it tells you that you might be "hunted as more lucrative prey" - it pretty much acknowledges that players are allowed to hunt/kill each other.

 

I don't agree when people say it's the only thing you should be allowed to do, or that you shouldn't be able to go shopping or exploring or whatever in peace, but killing each other is also a large part of free mode.

 

 

And of course, you missed my point.

 

Its normal to kill someone and start a little FR DM. We're not complaining about that. In fact, I actually like FR PvP, because that's the only time I can actually fight somebody. Our point is griefing e.g killing the same person 4857652754 times non-stop and doing the impossible to ruin the player's fun. THAT is not fine and THAT'S what we are talking about. Hell there's a an option to report somebody for griefing, which means its actually forbidden to do that, even in Rockstar's eyes. In other words: PvP =/= Griefing.

Getting punished for blowing up cars doesn't tend to stop that though. If/when you're being killed over and over, you can't even reach your car. Or if you have, that generally means you can get away.

 

So if the griefers who are after you have you pinned down or outnumbered, they can kill you over and over while you're stuck on foot. And the game won't give any type of bad sport punishment for that whatsoever. You can report them yes, but you can report someone whatever they do. The game itself sees someone being killed a billion times, when they're on foot/really vulnerable, as ok - yet if a car gets blown up, it becomes unsporting.

That's the real problem though. BS is LITERALLY useless and broken.

Spawn-rekt'd someone? Fine. Here's your Good Sport bonus AKA a measy 2k.

Blew up someone else's car? GO 2 HELL!!!!1

 

Seriously. Couldn't they just made it so that the Mental system only increases when you kill REAL players, and once it reaches Pure Red, you're thrown into BS instead of this nonsense?

[.Vooodu.]

@Icantthinkofonew:

enough with this spawnkilling idea. You have the option to go passive or leave at any moment. Anyone allowing this to happen, only has themselves to blame. The car's are insured, inanimate objects. They can't do anything without player control. I

 

Same can be said about players in vehicles... they can go passive or leave too.

 

Players PVs in GTA are a part of their arsenal. They choose to take them into battles and attack players then its far from bad sport. Its fair game.

 

 

Seriously. Couldn't they just made it so that the Mental system only increases when you kill REAL players, and once it reaches Pure Red, you're thrown into BS instead of this nonsense?

 

 

 

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

[ten-a-penny]

 

Seriously. Couldn't they just made it so that the Mental system only increases when you kill REAL players, and once it reaches Pure Red, you're thrown into BS instead of this nonsense?

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

Returned to senseless assumptions again huh?

Of course not. They can simply imply a code or something similar that can prevent players defending themselves from turning Red. Duh.

[Hunter]

Maybe Rockstar should focus on making it harder for people to spawnkill others anyway. Nerf jets a bit so they're not so easy to get kills with, and maybe put some restrictions on how many crew members/friends you can take with you in public free mode.

 

Nearly every time someone gets picked on, it's by some some stupidly large crew (6 - 8) and/or a jet divebombing people.

[ten-a-penny]

Maybe Rockstar should focus on making it harder for people to spawnkill others anyway. Nerf jets a bit so they're not so easy to get kills with, and maybe put some restrictions on how many crew members/friends you can take with you in public free mode.

 

Nearly every time someone gets picked on, it's by some some stupidly large crew (6 - 8) and/or a jet divebombing people.

Two/Three-Hit-Kill non-explosive rounds would be perfect for the Lazer.

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

Seriously. Couldn't they just made it so that the Mental system only increases when you kill REAL players, and once it reaches Pure Red, you're thrown into BS instead of this nonsense?

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

Returned to senseless assumptions again huh?

Of course not. They can simply imply a code or something similar that can prevent players defending themselves from turning Red. Duh.

 

 

I didn't assume anything, i replied to exactly what you posted... Seriously.. look at the quote.

 

Either way, what you posted make no sense. Go passive or leave if you can't stand the heat.

 

This bullsh*t of punishing players via some sort of in game bad sports systems is simply bullsh*t. We have weapons, explosives, vehicles, passive and the ability to find a new lobbies or play in invite only. Killing players is not the problem, blowing up their pvp is not the problem. Its the whiners that are the actual problem.

 

If getting killed gets someone angry.. and they feel the need to see said player locked into a BAD SPORT lobby. Then maybe, public sessions are not the place for that player. Because they can't handle the heat and really, they are bad sports for complaining.

 

So maybe BAD SPORT should be for people who can't handle playing GTA.

 

Either way.. maybe R* should do some reading. Cali law says..

 

http://esfandilawfirm.com/crimes/ca-penal-code-245-assault-with-a-deadly-weapon/

 

 

And it states

 

Deadly weapons are traditionally viewed to be guns and knives, but you can be convicted of CA Penal Code 245 for using something like a beer bottle, a rock, car, pen, really anything that can be used to inflict great bodily injury onto another person.

 

 

 

And it also states

 

California protects its citizens from being punished while acting in self defense if: you reasonably believed that great bodily injury will be inflicted upon you, and you only use as much force as necessary to ward off injury.

Edited August 21, 2015 by HulioG

[ten-a-penny]

Go passive or leave if you can't stand the heat.

 

Look prick. PM is useless in LastGen and I shouldn't leave because of a nolife lame troll is ruining my fun. But wait! I though Free Aim dicks are supposed to be friendly? Guess not.

[NBAKingzFan10]

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

How do you guys keep running into situations that require "self defense" so frequently that you're legitimately at risk of becoming a bad sport? So every session you join, all 30 people are attacking you from their cars and you've done absolutely nothing other than successfully defend yourself in order to get to BS?

 

I'm curious, because this is the only argument I ever hear in opposition of BS (aside from how stupid people think it is). I've defended myself successfully from vehicle attacks plenty of times, yet never been to BS (or even had dodgy status) so how often does this really happen to y'all?

Edited August 21, 2015 by NBAKingzFan10

[.Vooodu.]

 

Go passive or leave if you can't stand the heat.

 

Look prick. PM is useless in LastGen and I shouldn't leave because of a nolife lame troll is ruining my fun. But wait! I though Free Aim dicks are supposed to be friendly? Guess not.

 

 

 

Then bame R* for not fixing passive. Instead of calling me a dick. Dumbass.

 

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

How do you guys keep running into situations that require "self defense"

 

 

 

Well 1st i load up GTA O. Then i join GTA O.

 

And well... it sort of goes from there.

Edited August 21, 2015 by HulioG

[Sentinel Driver]

 

Go passive or leave if you can't stand the heat.

 

Look prick. PM is useless in LastGen and I shouldn't leave because of a nolife lame troll is ruining my fun. But wait! I though Free Aim dicks are supposed to be friendly? Guess not.

 

Or get a new gen console/gaming pc. And on topic now my thoughts about bad sport: Fun idea but it does not really work. Does not really do much in my opinion

Edited August 21, 2015 by Sentinel Driver

[Smooth Longsack]

I still think it's about marketing. BS causes me to create alternate accounts. They make it as easy as switching lobbies to switch accounts (pause/online/account picker). I'm not talking about having a second character but like 3 or more just to continue griefing. Each new character needs less and less equipment and the kds are buffed way beyond normal. Each new profile created is more and more bitter with los santos residents.

Edited August 21, 2015 by Smooth Longsack

[ten-a-penny]

Or get a new gen console/gaming pc

Why should I buy a new console when my PS3 is still brand new and is working perfectly?

And I won't buy a whole f*cking console for one stupid game. And even if I did, I can't play Online. Problem unsolved.

[Sentinel Driver]

 

Or get a new gen console/gaming pc

Why should I buy a new console when my PS3 is still brand new and is working perfectly?

And I won't buy a whole f*cking console for one stupid game. And even if I did, I can't play Online. Problem unsolved.

 

Pc does not require xbox live gold/ps plus = problem solved

[NBAKingzFan10]

 

 

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

How do you guys keep running into situations that require "self defense"

 

 

Well 1st i load up GTA O. Then i join GTA O.

 

And well... it sort of goes from there.

You didn't answer my question and instead answered only a portion of my question taken out of context. So, allow me to rephrase the question:

 

How the f*ck do you get into bad sport by only defending yourself, and nothing else?

 

The obvious answer (since you can't be trusted to reply sincerely) is that you don't. If you just blow up a few cars (or one car belonging to a particularly persistent idiot a few times), then you don't have anything to worry about. At this point of the game, you have to be trying to get bad sport for it to happen (that's how insanely difficult it is anymore) so to freak out over having to defend yourself a few times and landing in BS is utterly ridiculous. To use it as a legitimate opposition to BS is even more ridiculous.

Edited August 21, 2015 by NBAKingzFan10

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

 

 

 

Seriously. Couldn't they just made it so that the Mental system only increases when you kill REAL players, and once it reaches Pure Red, you're thrown into BS instead of this nonsense?

 

 

 

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

 

 

 

 

 

 

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

How do you guys keep running into situations that require "self defense"

 

 

Well 1st i load up GTA O. Then i join GTA O.

 

And well... it sort of goes from there.

You didn't answer my question and instead answered only a portion of my question taken out of context. So, allow me to rephrase the question:

 

How the f*ck do you get into bad sport by only defending yourself, and nothing else?

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see... You took it out of context.

 

.

[NBAKingzFan10]

Let's try a different angle and see how you manipulate it.

 

Go passive or leave if you can't stand the heat.

Au contraire, mon frère. You seem to think that there are no rules in GTAO or, that if there are, you should be able to willfully ignore them sans consequences. You try to paint anyone who disagrees with you as being wrong, but the only person here who is truly wrong is you. More specifically, your inability to read the Code of Conduct you explicitly agreed to is what undermines your argument entirely and leaves you with no recourse.

 

ONLINE FEATURES CODE OF CONDUCT

 

The following rules and policies govern and/or apply to your use of any Online Features in our games, including your multiplayer conduct and any customization or content you create that is accessible to other players.

You agree, by using the Online Features, that:

 

...You will not restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Online Features provided hereon (for example, by means of harassment, hacking or defacement)...

 

We reserve the right to take action for any (or no) reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for your online actions...

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/conduct

You agreed to their terms and if you don't like it, can simply stop playing the game at any time. To act like anyone but yourself should adjust their playing habits is disingenuous at best when it's you who should change how you play if you don't want to face the consequences (you know, the ones you agreed to when you decided to play online).

[.Vooodu.]

Let's try a different angle and see how you manipulate it.

 

 

 

 

No..

 

 

You only get one stupid question per day. And i've already filed my quota.

 

Seriously.

 

 

You can't even understand what you're reading, why does it matter what my answer is?

[Semaj 2JZ♢]

 

@Icantthinkofonew:

enough with this spawnkilling idea. You have the option to go passive or leave at any moment. Anyone allowing this to happen, only has themselves to blame. The car's are insured, inanimate objects. They can't do anything without player control. It can't just stop itself from getting destroyed, so you get punished for screwing with it.

Completely irrelevant. Bad sport/insurance does not protect those who are being spawnkilled (i.e. the true, pure meaning of griefing). Getting blown up once or twice by a player you're fighting with is not griefing. Especially if you charge in with that car and try to use it as a shield. It's going boom whether I get punished for it or not.No, it is relevant, because there is no actual spawnkilling taking place. It's one doofus, like yourself, that can't get a clue and join a new session. You blow up an insured car you get bad sport because it takes zero effort to use that vehicle against the owner. Hence why true attack vehicles can't be insured. You literally make no sense pal. You can't understand it, so it shouldn't exist? Ha, it ain't your game. Deal with it.

[NBAKingzFan10]

 

Let's try a different angle and see how you manipulate it.

 

No..

 

 

You only get one stupid question per day

There isn't a single question in the entire post you just quoted soooo....

 

Edited August 21, 2015 by NBAKingzFan10

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

Let's try a different angle and see how you manipulate it.

 

 

 

No..

 

 

You only get one stupid question per day

There isn't a single question in the entire post you just quoted soooo....

 

 

 

 

I never said there was... sooooo.

 

Dafuk is your point?

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

@Icantthinkofonew:

enough with this spawnkilling idea. You have the option to go passive or leave at any moment. Anyone allowing this to happen, only has themselves to blame. The car's are insured, inanimate objects. They can't do anything without player control. It can't just stop itself from getting destroyed, so you get punished for screwing with it.

Completely irrelevant. Bad sport/insurance does not protect those who are being spawnkilled (i.e. the true, pure meaning of griefing). Getting blown up once or twice by a player you're fighting with is not griefing. Especially if you charge in with that car and try to use it as a shield. It's going boom whether I get punished for it or not.

No, it is relevant, because there is no actual spawnkilling taking place. It's one doofus, like yourself, that can't get a clue and join a new session. You blow up an insured car you get bad sport because it takes zero effort to use that vehicle against the owner. Hence why true attack vehicles can't be insured. You literally make no sense pal. You can't understand it, so it shouldn't exist? Ha, it ain't your game. Deal with it.

 

 

 

TL;DR.

[ClareXoBearrx3R9]

 

 

 

Seriously. Couldn't they just made it so that the Mental system only increases when you kill REAL players, and once it reaches Pure Red, you're thrown into BS instead of this nonsense?

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

 

Returned to senseless assumptions again huh?

Of course not. They can simply imply a code or something similar that can prevent players defending themselves from turning Red. Duh.

 

I didn't assume anything, i replied to exactly what you posted... Seriously.. look at the quote.

 

Either way, what you posted make no sense. Go passive or leave if you can't stand the heat.

 

This bullsh*t of punishing players via some sort of in game bad sports systems is simply bullsh*t. We have weapons, explosives, vehicles, passive and the ability to find a new lobbies or play in invite only. Killing players is not the problem, blowing up their pvp is not the problem. Its the whiners that are the actual problem.

 

If getting killed gets someone angry.. and they feel the need to see said player locked into a BAD SPORT lobby. Then maybe, public sessions are not the place for that player. Because they can't handle the heat and really, they are bad sports for complaining.

 

So maybe BAD SPORT should be for people who can't handle playing GTA.

 

Either way.. maybe R* should do some reading. Cali law says..

 

http://esfandilawfirm.com/crimes/ca-penal-code-245-assault-with-a-deadly-weapon/

 

 

And it states

 

Deadly weapons are traditionally viewed to be guns and knives, but you can be convicted of CA Penal Code 245 for using something like a beer bottle, a rock, car, pen, really anything that can be used to inflict great bodily injury onto another person.[/size]

 

 

 

And it also states

 

California protects its citizens from being punished while acting in self defense if: you reasonably believed that great bodily injury will be inflicted upon you, and you only use as much force as necessary to ward off injury.[/size]

 

Again,

 

Grand Theft Auto = vehicle theft, crimes, possibly killing people who get in your way like police, and maybe killing someone if you want to steal their vehicle.

 

Battlefield = killing and fighting players.

 

I'm not sure why this concept is so difficult for many people to understand.

 

And for those who say "we have weapons and explosives but get punished for using it", it's similar to saying "I have a dick and get punished for using it". You can have a dick and use it wisely, and the same goes for weapons. If you want to constantly kill people, why stay in free mode? Go to a deathmatch.

[NBAKingzFan10]

 

 

 

Let's try a different angle and see how you manipulate it.

 

 

 

No..

 

 

You only get one stupid question per day

There isn't a single question in the entire post you just quoted soooo....

 

 

 

I never said there was... sooooo.

 

Dafuk is your point?

Clearly troll bait, but I'll bite anyways.

 

it's implicit that when you refuse to address any post under the guise of "I'm not answering because you only get one question blah blah blah" that the post you're refusing to address contains a question. Ofherwise, why would you cite only getting one question as grounds to not addressing the post in the first place? You wouldn't unless you're either:

 

A: Mentally deficient

B: A troll

C: Lacking an understanding of the English language

or

D: All of the above

 

Anyways, consider yourself blocked. I should have believed everyone that you were a troll when there was an entire thread in which everyone outed you as a troll (seen here: http://gtaforums.com/topic/816083-mad-at-broke-players/?fromsearch=1). You don't contribute to anything, then attack people who do (Furry_Monkey to name one of a few). It's laughable how pathetic every one of your almost 2000 posts probably are.

Edited August 21, 2015 by NBAKingzFan10

[ten-a-penny]

 

 

Or get a new gen console/gaming pc

Why should I buy a new console when my PS3 is still brand new and is working perfectly?

And I won't buy a whole f*cking console for one stupid game. And even if I did, I can't play Online. Problem unsolved.

Pc does not require xbox live gold/ps plus = problem solved

My PC can't run the game and I'm not into Sandbox gaming on PC nor am I going to waste cash on a gaming PC. Problem UNsolved, again.

[PkUnzipper]

Isn't this game about crime, and chaos? Why should we care if a bunch sensitive cry babies, or children can't take getting killed, or getting their crap blown up in a video game. It's not like we're cheating. We're doing what you're suppose to do in a game like this. Why the hell is Rockstar, encouraging us not to cause mayhem when they give us so much weapons and arsenal that kills? So we can show the weapon's colors off? What they need to do is take off passive mode, and get rid of the bad sports lobbies. If the whiners don't like it, go into an invite only session or play World of Warcraft .

 

Have you ever been to BS? If so, you should go. And stay there permanently. Then it's a win-win situation for players like you and sensitive, cry baby players like me.

 

That being said,

• I'm tired of idiots like you selfishly quitting heists because they either think they're being underpaid, too impatient to earn their paycheck, or find the quit feature conveniently allows them to be somewhere else.
• I'm tired of idiots like you harrassing and griefing ppl on passive who clearly DON'T GIVE A f*ck about interacting with your type of chaos minded gamer. Why the f*ck do players like you feel the need to travel the entire map to greif someone who is on passive minding their own business?
• I'm tired of ppl like you who feel the need to jump into a tank or lately insurgent or hydra. Just so you can get a cheap K/D bump by safely griefing ppl who can't fight back in the session.
• I'm tired of idiots like you blowing up POVs which you CLEARLY KNOW aren't NPC cars. When you CLEARLY KNOW the average NPC doesn't drive a $1M+ super. And especially if that player's car you destroyed wasn't a part of your anorexic CoD cesspool that free roam has become. Did it ever occur to you that players beside yourself ACTUALLY DO the missions and activities located around the map? And that they parked their vehicle next to that mission marker with the intent of picking it up later? But yet you--completely unprovoked--felt you had to screw with other ppl's property by using a baseball bat? Or kick, stomp, smash the vehicle? Or slash the tires to avoid paying the insurance costs?
• I'm tired of ppl who feel the need to screech endless hate speech over the mike to other players don't care to engage or interact with them. Just so they can try and goad them into coming out of passive and devolving to their mindless PvP style of playing the game.
• I'm tired of players that insist on using cheats, hacks, mods so they can cheat to win races, DMs, heists, missions, and other competitive activities. Just so they can make up for their complete failure of being a successful person in real life.

 

This is why I almost exclusively play on Invite Only sessions. But unfortunately, the game has a nasty way of dumping my char back into populated sessions whenever I do a mission or heist. Which means I'm once again stuck with socially challenged morons like you OP.

 

Anyway, the list of reasons why ppl belong to BS servers is endless as you've clearly pointed out in your post. But then again, there's no complete way to exterminate all those emotionally retartded and mentally handicapped children who've infested this franchise. Especially now that C* has decided GTA will become a permanently online game in the future.....

 

That being said, thank you for validating and proving the reason why GTAO needed to have TWO separate types of servers:

 

One for PvP minded players like you and the other for PvE & socialized players like myself. It's crystal clear from your post that we'll NEVER be able to co-exist in the same free roam session without issues.

Edited August 21, 2015 by PkUnzipper

[Sentinel Driver]

 

 

 

Or get a new gen console/gaming pc

Why should I buy a new console when my PS3 is still brand new and is working perfectly?

And I won't buy a whole f*cking console for one stupid game. And even if I did, I can't play Online. Problem unsolved.

Pc does not require xbox live gold/ps plus = problem solved

My PC can't run the game and I'm not into Sandbox gaming on PC nor am I going to waste cash on a gaming PC. Problem UNsolved, again.

 

Then deal with the problems

[mbette]

Since GTA Online caters to such a wide variety, why should someone who just wants to drive around, mod cars, and just play around, have to be in a lobby full of Insurgents and Hydras.

Also, R* really should have their lobbies go by rank, a rank 1 just learning the basics really shouldn't be in the same lobby as a rank 100.

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

 

 

Seriously. Couldn't they just made it so that the Mental system only increases when you kill REAL players, and once it reaches Pure Red, you're thrown into BS instead of this nonsense?

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

 

Returned to senseless assumptions again huh?

Of course not. They can simply imply a code or something similar that can prevent players defending themselves from turning Red. Duh.

 

I didn't assume anything, i replied to exactly what you posted... Seriously.. look at the quote.

 

Either way, what you posted make no sense. Go passive or leave if you can't stand the heat.

 

This bullsh*t of punishing players via some sort of in game bad sports systems is simply bullsh*t. We have weapons, explosives, vehicles, passive and the ability to find a new lobbies or play in invite only. Killing players is not the problem, blowing up their pvp is not the problem. Its the whiners that are the actual problem.

 

If getting killed gets someone angry.. and they feel the need to see said player locked into a BAD SPORT lobby. Then maybe, public sessions are not the place for that player. Because they can't handle the heat and really, they are bad sports for complaining.

 

So maybe BAD SPORT should be for people who can't handle playing GTA.

 

Either way.. maybe R* should do some reading. Cali law says..

 

http://esfandilawfirm.com/crimes/ca-penal-code-245-assault-with-a-deadly-weapon/

 

 

And it states

 

Deadly weapons are traditionally viewed to be guns and knives, but you can be convicted of CA Penal Code 245 for using something like a beer bottle, a rock, car, pen, really anything that can be used to inflict great bodily injury onto another person.[/size]

 

 

 

And it also states

 

California protects its citizens from being punished while acting in self defense if: you reasonably believed that great bodily injury will be inflicted upon you, and you only use as much force as necessary to ward off injury.[/size]

 

Again,

 

Grand Theft Auto = vehicle theft, crimes, possibly killing people who get in your way like police, and maybe killing someone if you want to steal their vehicle.

 

Battlefield = killing and fighting players.

 

I'm not sure why this concept is so difficult for many people to understand.

 

 

 

 

So you're saying... That R* themselves wants to us be friendly and they do nothing to provoke us to fight each other? And things like bountys, muggers and unlocks for killing players are just for show.

 

You can say what you said till your face turns blue.. Guess what? You don't get punished for killing players.

[PkUnzipper]

 

 

 

 

Seriously. Couldn't they just made it so that the Mental system only increases when you kill REAL players, and once it reaches Pure Red, you're thrown into BS instead of this nonsense?

So if someone keeps successfully defending themselves and gets red dot... They are bad sport?

 

Returned to senseless assumptions again huh?

Of course not. They can simply imply a code or something similar that can prevent players defending themselves from turning Red. Duh.

 

I didn't assume anything, i replied to exactly what you posted... Seriously.. look at the quote.

 

Either way, what you posted make no sense. Go passive or leave if you can't stand the heat.

 

This bullsh*t of punishing players via some sort of in game bad sports systems is simply bullsh*t. We have weapons, explosives, vehicles, passive and the ability to find a new lobbies or play in invite only. Killing players is not the problem, blowing up their pvp is not the problem. Its the whiners that are the actual problem.

 

If getting killed gets someone angry.. and they feel the need to see said player locked into a BAD SPORT lobby. Then maybe, public sessions are not the place for that player. Because they can't handle the heat and really, they are bad sports for complaining.

 

So maybe BAD SPORT should be for people who can't handle playing GTA.

 

Either way.. maybe R* should do some reading. Cali law says..

 

http://esfandilawfirm.com/crimes/ca-penal-code-245-assault-with-a-deadly-weapon/

 

 

And it states

 

Deadly weapons are traditionally viewed to be guns and knives, but you can be convicted of CA Penal Code 245 for using something like a beer bottle, a rock, car, pen, really anything that can be used to inflict great bodily injury onto another person.[/size]

 

 

 

And it also states

 

California protects its citizens from being punished while acting in self defense if: you reasonably believed that great bodily injury will be inflicted upon you, and you only use as much force as necessary to ward off injury.[/size]

 

Again,

 

Grand Theft Auto = vehicle theft, crimes, possibly killing people who get in your way like police, and maybe killing someone if you want to steal their vehicle.

 

Battlefield = killing and fighting players.

 

I'm not sure why this concept is so difficult for many people to understand.

 

And for those who say "we have weapons and explosives but get punished for using it", it's similar to saying "I have a dick and get punished for using it". You can have a dick and use it wisely, and the same goes for weapons. If you want to constantly kill people, why stay in free mode? Go to a deathmatch.

 

 

^^

This. Well stated. The real life "logic" of players like HulioG never cease to amaze and baffle me. HulioG's line of reasoning is exactly the type which a lot of #yoloswag chr[email protected] @$$hats were using back in the multi billionare days---before R* swept the money glitches on the servers last Christmas.

 

Their typical argument were the likes of "GTAO is a crime game. So I should be able to glitch/hack as much money as I wantz. Or hack and unlock as much mods at LSC as I want". And "If R* thought money glitching was illegal, then they'd do something about it". In the latter case, it turns out that R* actually did....

 

Fast forward a month or so later in the New Year and check out all the crying game threads these 8th grade+ little hooligans wanabees were posting all over RGSC. And there were quite a few adults with the emotional intelligence of a 5 year old among those BS and CP banned players as well. A small minority even got perma banned for good based on their excesses in RP and money glitching on the consoles.

 

Talk about oxymoronic logic. Oh the incredibly abysmally stupid, stupid children I have to suffer whenever I go online.....